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Overhead Mics - The Delima
I need to put together a drum mic set ASAP. And i am foxed by lack of
availability. Most (of the very few) distributers here do not stock. And order on prepayment only. Which usually takes a lot longer than promised etc etc.. So for the snare I already have a SM57. Intend on using SM58's (maybe Beta 58's if i can) on the toms. For the kik the only thing readily available is the Sennheiser e602. I read up and i think it's ok. For the overheads. The only SDC available in the market off the shelf. AKG C1000, Behringer B5, mayby the 451 (too expensive) and maybe the Behringer ECM 8000. I have spent the past hour and a half trying to fing something good told about the C1000. Not happening. So that is out. I anywaz have not as of yet heard an AKG (i have not heard much either) that I really taken a liking too. The 414 i found to be a bit harsh. The 451 a bit bright (but maybe i just over EQ'd it when i worked with them a while back) I also get to work in a studio with the Behringer B2Pro and dont like it. so i am a bit sceptical of the B5 (it comes bundled with a omni capsule for cheap). Surprisingly ppl seem to mention use of the ECM8000 measurement mic (have read so before also) though since it is omni i might be a little conserned of getting more room that i like, espessially since i will not using any great rooms. So that leaves me with nothing. If I can, I have the option of waiting through and perhaps being able to order (while building a bank balance) a pair of sennheisers SDC's e.g. e614. However, if push were to come to shove and i need to buy, which is the better of the bad ??? Also i have read a lotta good bout the Octava 012. Now i was looking for the home page and am a bit confuced. I have found the following links : http://www.oktava.net/ http://sound-room.com/ (also www.oktava.com ) While both companies seem to stock Oktavas, at oktava.net we have the model MK012 while at Oktava.com (aka sound-room.com) we have the model MC012 . The mics seem similar. This passage from the sound room's home page had me particularly confuced : "Yes, we know....some large "chain" and "cataolgue sales" stores may offer "OKTAVA" microphones. What makes our RTT/OKTAVA microphones different is the selection process for specific acoustic and electronic parameters, our own quality control and warranties, our "cute" cedar boxes and the fact that we sell parts, do service and even sell accessories for Russian mics - we'll even sell you those cute cedar boxes for your mic collection! " Sound room saz they ship worldwide. So this could be a viable option. I would like these mics to be versatile, acoustic guitars etc Please Advise. Thank you. Sidhu |
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Sidhu wrote:
I need to put together a drum mic set ASAP. And i am foxed by lack of availability. Most (of the very few) distributers here do not stock. And order on prepayment only. Which usually takes a lot longer than promised etc etc.. So for the snare I already have a SM57. Okay. Intend on using SM58's (maybe Beta 58's if i can) on the toms. The pattern is wide and they have no top end, but frankly you probably don't even need to mike the toms. For the kik the only thing readily available is the Sennheiser e602. I read up and i think it's ok. Yes, but do you like the way it sounds? I would be very surprised if the RE-20 wasn't available from a broadcast supply house in Delhi. And there is always the Sennheiser 421, which is a great mike for other things. For the overheads. The only SDC available in the market off the shelf. AKG C1000, Behringer B5, mayby the 451 (too expensive) and maybe the Behringer ECM 8000. I don't think I would want any of these in my closet. The overheads are the most important part of the kit sound and most of your drum sound is coming through the overheads, so it's definitely worth spending the money on good overheads. You can get a good set of overheads and dispense with all the other mikes if you're trying to cut costs. I have spent the past hour and a half trying to fing something good told about the C1000. Not happening. So that is out. I anywaz have not as of yet heard an AKG (i have not heard much either) that I really taken a liking too. The 414 i found to be a bit harsh. The 451 a bit bright (but maybe i just over EQ'd it when i worked with them a while back) Which 414? Which 451? The original 451 was a colored but useful mike. The new 451EB reissue bears no connection at all with the original 451. The AKG C535 is actually not bad as an overhead in a pinch. I also get to work in a studio with the Behringer B2Pro and dont like it. so i am a bit sceptical of the B5 (it comes bundled with a omni capsule for cheap). Surprisingly ppl seem to mention use of the ECM8000 measurement mic (have read so before also) though since it is omni i might be a little conserned of getting more room that i like, espessially since i will not using any great rooms. The key to a great drum sound is a great room. The ECM8000 is the best mike you will find down in the bargain basement price range. But it is not a Schoeps by any stretch of the imagination. However, if push were to come to shove and i need to buy, which is the better of the bad ??? No Crown CM-700? You can't get a Josephson Fed-Exed to you? I would think with the dollar falling so low that the Josephson mikes would be very cost-effective there right now. Also i have read a lotta good bout the Octava 012. Now i was looking for the home page and am a bit confuced. I have found the following links : http://www.oktava.net/ http://sound-room.com/ (also www.oktava.com ) While both companies seem to stock Oktavas, at oktava.net we have the model MK012 while at Oktava.com (aka sound-room.com) we have the model MC012 . The mics seem similar. They are basically the same designs built to different specifications. The Sound Room mikes are much better controlled and consistent than the ones that McKay imports. This passage from the sound room's home page had me particularly confuced : "Yes, we know....some large "chain" and "cataolgue sales" stores may offer "OKTAVA" microphones. What makes our RTT/OKTAVA microphones different is the selection process for specific acoustic and electronic parameters, our own quality control and warranties, our "cute" cedar boxes and the fact that we sell parts, do service and even sell accessories for Russian mics - we'll even sell you those cute cedar boxes for your mic collection! " Sound room saz they ship worldwide. So this could be a viable option. They are good people, and their mikes are consistent, and they stand behind what they sell. But you should still listen to anything before you buy it. --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." |
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"Scott Dorsey" wrote in message ... Sidhu wrote: I need to put together a drum mic set ASAP. And i am foxed by lack of availability. Most (of the very few) distributers here do not stock. And order on prepayment only. Which usually takes a lot longer than promised etc etc.. For the kik the only thing readily available is the Sennheiser e602. I read up and i think it's ok. Yes, but do you like the way it sounds? I would be very surprised if the RE-20 wasn't available from a broadcast supply house in Delhi. And there is always the Sennheiser 421, which is a great mike for other things. The MD421 would cost at least double and the RE-20 at least four times what he'd have to pay for the e602. I've been in a situation like his and know that it's a major concern. And he hasn't sorted the overhead mics problem yet. He'll have to like the e602. However, if push were to come to shove and i need to buy, which is the better of the bad ??? No Crown CM-700? You can't get a Josephson Fed-Exed to you? I would think with the dollar falling so low that the Josephson mikes would be very cost-effective there right now. The AKG C451 is already out of his budget. The dollar should keep falling if the Josephsons are to become affordable. It stopped falling too soon, if you ask me. Sound room saz they ship worldwide. So this could be a viable option. They are good people, and their mikes are consistent, and they stand behind what they sell. But you should still listen to anything before you buy it. But if you have no way of listening before you buy and the budget is tight and the job needs to be done (and again, I know very well what it's like), go with the Oktavas, especially the Sound Room ones. If you can get them on time, that is. Predrag |
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Sidhu wrote:
The 414 i found to be a bit harsh. The 451 a bit bright (but maybe i just over EQ'd it when i worked with them a while back) If you don't like bright mics like the 451EB the Rode NT5 might be a very good choice for you. A bit more expensive than the Behringer, a bit cheaper than the AKG (sold/priced as a pair!). IMO excellent mics (at their price point). Sander |
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Predrag Trpkov wrote:
"Scott Dorsey" wrote in message ... Sidhu wrote: I need to put together a drum mic set ASAP. And i am foxed by lack of availability. Most (of the very few) distributers here do not stock. And order on prepayment only. Which usually takes a lot longer than promised etc etc.. For the kik the only thing readily available is the Sennheiser e602. I read up and i think it's ok. Yes, but do you like the way it sounds? I would be very surprised if the RE-20 wasn't available from a broadcast supply house in Delhi. And there is always the Sennheiser 421, which is a great mike for other things. The MD421 would cost at least double and the RE-20 at least four times what he'd have to pay for the e602. I've been in a situation like his and know that it's a major concern. And he hasn't sorted the overhead mics problem yet. He'll have to like the e602. Yes, but they're also useful for other things. You get the 421 and you have a nice kick drum mike, but also a nice vocal mike and a nice guitar mike. You get the e602 and it's a perfectly respectable kick mike but not very versatile. I think the key to getting good sound on a budget is to get quality gear that can do as many things as possible. That's why I am really gung-ho about a good small diaphragm condenser. However, if push were to come to shove and i need to buy, which is the better of the bad ??? No Crown CM-700? You can't get a Josephson Fed-Exed to you? I would think with the dollar falling so low that the Josephson mikes would be very cost-effective there right now. The AKG C451 is already out of his budget. The dollar should keep falling if the Josephsons are to become affordable. It stopped falling too soon, if you ask me. I'd take one Josephson over two AKG C451s, personally. One good mono overhead beats out two poorer ones in stereo. Sound room saz they ship worldwide. So this could be a viable option. They are good people, and their mikes are consistent, and they stand behind what they sell. But you should still listen to anything before you buy it. But if you have no way of listening before you buy and the budget is tight and the job needs to be done (and again, I know very well what it's like), go with the Oktavas, especially the Sound Room ones. If you can get them on time, that is. Take a train to Delhi and spend fifty bucks for a few hours at a studio checking out their microphone cabinet! It's worth the money for the education. A lot of studios will give you a huge break on the hourly rate for this sort of thing if you want to come in during an otherwise open time. --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." |
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(Scott Dorsey) wrote in message ...
Sidhu wrote: I need to put together a drum mic set ASAP. And i am foxed by lack of availability. Most (of the very few) distributers here do not stock. And order on prepayment only. Which usually takes a lot longer than promised etc etc.. So for the snare I already have a SM57. Okay. Intend on using SM58's (maybe Beta 58's if i can) on the toms. The pattern is wide and they have no top end, but frankly you probably don't even need to mike the toms. Fair enough. For the kik the only thing readily available is the Sennheiser e602. I read up and i think it's ok. Yes, but do you like the way it sounds? I would be very surprised if the RE-20 wasn't available from a broadcast supply house in Delhi. And there is always the Sennheiser 421, which is a great mike for other things. The RE-20 Is not affordable for me right now. And neither is the 421. Maybe i can pik up one 421 II, but then ill have nothing left for anything else. I have worked with the e602 before and got decent results. Once i tried AB ing the AKG D12 and the Sennheiser MD421 fof kik and found the 421 to be thin. For the overheads. The only SDC available in the market off the shelf. AKG C1000, Behringer B5, mayby the 451 (too expensive) and maybe the Behringer ECM 8000. I don't think I would want any of these in my closet. The overheads are the most important part of the kit sound and most of your drum sound is coming through the overheads, so it's definitely worth spending the money on good overheads. You can get a good set of overheads and dispense with all the other mikes if you're trying to cut costs. Maybe i can get the Studio Projects c4 pair (but i have the feeling this too will be expensive) I have spent the past hour and a half trying to fing something good told about the C1000. Not happening. So that is out. I anywaz have not as of yet heard an AKG (i have not heard much either) that I really taken a liking too. The 414 i found to be a bit harsh. The 451 a bit bright (but maybe i just over EQ'd it when i worked with them a while back) Which 414? Which 451? The original 451 was a colored but useful mike. The new 451EB reissue bears no connection at all with the original 451. The AKG C535 is actually not bad as an overhead in a pinch. The 414 B ULS (this teaches me to be thorough. ) and the 451 EB. I was advised about the 535 on another forum also. Will look into this today. I also get to work in a studio with the Behringer B2Pro and dont like it. so i am a bit sceptical of the B5 (it comes bundled with a omni capsule for cheap). Surprisingly ppl seem to mention use of the ECM8000 measurement mic (have read so before also) though since it is omni i might be a little conserned of getting more room that i like, espessially since i will not using any great rooms. The key to a great drum sound is a great room. The ECM8000 is the best mike you will find down in the bargain basement price range. But it is not a Schoeps by any stretch of the imagination. OK and the omni pattern should not be a bother? However, if push were to come to shove and i need to buy, which is the better of the bad ??? No Crown CM-700? You can't get a Josephson Fed-Exed to you? I would think with the dollar falling so low that the Josephson mikes would be very cost-effective there right now. None. Also i have read a lotta good bout the Octava 012. Now i was looking for the home page and am a bit confuced. I have found the following links : http://www.oktava.net/ http://sound-room.com/ (also www.oktava.com ) While both companies seem to stock Oktavas, at oktava.net we have the model MK012 while at Oktava.com (aka sound-room.com) we have the model MC012 . The mics seem similar. They are basically the same designs built to different specifications. The Sound Room mikes are much better controlled and consistent than the ones that McKay imports. This passage from the sound room's home page had me particularly confuced : "Yes, we know....some large "chain" and "cataolgue sales" stores may offer "OKTAVA" microphones. What makes our RTT/OKTAVA microphones different is the selection process for specific acoustic and electronic parameters, our own quality control and warranties, our "cute" cedar boxes and the fact that we sell parts, do service and even sell accessories for Russian mics - we'll even sell you those cute cedar boxes for your mic collection! " Sound room saz they ship worldwide. So this could be a viable option. They are good people, and their mikes are consistent, and they stand behind what they sell. But you should still listen to anything before you buy it. Very unfortunately. Very rarely a possiblility here. --scott |
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Take a train to Delhi and spend fifty bucks for a few hours at a studio
checking out their microphone cabinet! It's worth the money for the education. I am from Delhi. And most of my education comes from you ppl. The problem is that this country no longer has much of a live instrument based music industry. Hence the problem with fiding mics off the shelf, and importers will not stock as these are very slow moving items. How DID U figure im from around delhi.. ????? jeez i must be missing something really stupid. A lot of studios will give you a huge break on the hourly rate for this sort of thing if you want to come in during an otherwise open time. This, my dear friend, is not the United States on America. If there are any Studios in this country, worth their salt, there in Bombay. --scott Sidhu |
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Thanks for all the help. I really understand the importance of
investing in quallity mics and not building junk in my cabnit. But this is quite a catc 22 situation. I have a band ready to record with me and im having to put them off constantly cause i cant figure drum mics. Anywaz... So i also have the option of now picking up the Shure PGDMK6 drum mic kit. It fits nicely in budget, but i doubt it would really be anything to write home about. http://164.109.27.207/microphones/models/pgdmk6.asp One thing if you ppl. can help me out with is locating a company that will take orders online and ship to India, fast. Ill see whats the best i can do then. So far the c1000 is out. The AKG 535 will take a month to arrive after the order is placed. (but if totally worth it, i could jump) Id suspect the same for the 421. The 602 is available, along with the SM81 (cannot afford) Akg 451 (cannot afford) maybe the Studio projects. The thing here is weired pricing. The Shures and the AKG's are available here for bout the same as anywhere else. while the Studio Projects cost almost twice as much. Hypothetically speaking, if i were to be able to spencd much on overheads, which ones do i go for : (bear in mind id like using them for guitars etc too) Shure SM81 or the AKG 451. I am tempted towards the Oktavas but as stated, i might not like a vintage flavour, and then soundroom has not as of yet replied to my email. I so dammed stressed right now. But just to give you guyz a brief. These i record often. Flute (all kinds, bamboo) Violin (mostly indian carnatic, sounds a lot fatter than western classical) Guitar (yet to achieve a good acoustic sound, the only really alluding factor so far), Tabla, dholak, Dholl and other indian percussions. Heavy metal and voice. I mentioned that i tried the 421 on a kik once and dint like at all (compared with a D12, twas an old mic). But it sound good on a Tabla. Sidhu |
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Sidhu wrote:
A lot of studios will give you a huge break on the hourly rate for this sort of thing if you want to come in during an otherwise open time. This, my dear friend, is not the United States on America. If there are any Studios in this country, worth their salt, there in Bombay. It's true that most of the big guys are in Bombay. But in Delhi I can name Simran Audio, Neelam, and Alfa Sound offhand. There are probably a few more. --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." |
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Sidhu wrote:
Hypothetically speaking, if i were to be able to spencd much on overheads, which ones do i go for : (bear in mind id like using them for guitars etc too) Shure SM81 or the AKG 451. I would pick the original 451 over the SM-81, but I would pick the SM-81 over the new 451EB. I am tempted towards the Oktavas but as stated, i might not like a vintage flavour, and then soundroom has not as of yet replied to my email. Vintage flavour? The whole notion of a small diaphragm condenser is to be as neutral as possible. Flute (all kinds, bamboo) Violin (mostly indian carnatic, sounds a lot fatter than western classical) Guitar (yet to achieve a good acoustic sound, the only really alluding factor so far), Tabla, dholak, Dholl and other indian percussions. Heavy metal and voice. I would tend to pick high grade dynamics for most of these things if you have to spot mike them, or small diaphragm condensers if you can pull back. I mentioned that i tried the 421 on a kik once and dint like at all (compared with a D12, twas an old mic). But it sound good on a Tabla. Have you considered a used D12 then? I'm no fan of those but they aren't that expensive used. --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." |
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Just got a reply from the sound room. they have the Oktava MC012
stereo pair in stock and will ship to India. What say. I have mentioned uses (besides overheads) in a previous post. what say? But i just figured, after paying customs and all for these mics, theyd almost end up costing me as much a pair AKG C451's. Man, i think i need to bite the bullet and starve for another 2 months. Sux! sidhu |
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"Sidhu" wrote in message om... Just got a reply from the sound room. they have the Oktava MC012 stereo pair in stock and will ship to India. What say. I have mentioned uses (besides overheads) in a previous post. what say? But i just figured, after paying customs and all for these mics, theyd almost end up costing me as much a pair AKG C451's. Man, i think i need to bite the bullet and starve for another 2 months. I'd take the Sound Room matched pair of Oktavas over the new 451s. Particularly given the other instruments you'll be recording. Peace, Paul |
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I stand corrected. The oktava pair will cost me less than the 451.
Sidhu |
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"Sidhu" wrote in message om... I stand corrected. The oktava pair will cost me less than the 451. Sidhu With the Oktavas, unlike the new C451, you also have the option of adding quite affordable omni and hypercardioid capsules later. You may find it rather useful. Predrag |
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Well, you can't go wrong with SM57 for snare and toms never mind the
other 1000 uses including amps, percussion etc. The Oktave 012s are just fine for overheads and other purposes. If you can get the 3 capsules for them it's worth it to have at least the omni capsules as well. I've liked the e609 on guitar amps no experience with it on kick drum. I've liked the Senn 421 on kick drum. Just remember that the rotary swtich need to be on M for music not to roll off the bass. Plus many mics for kick have built in bass and high peaks for the instrument, the 421 is flatter than say a D112 but a little EQ goes a long way with them. Any engineer worth a darn should be able to get a good drum sound with 57s and the MC012s. If you can get Shure products then look for the Beta 52 for the kick. But I bet with a little work the e609 would work just fine. the kit you shpow I've never used. The condesers look an awful lot like what Shure sold as BG4.0. rugged and Ok sounding, just slightly harsh. I've used them for overheads in a pinch and on snare. Not half bad but the Oktavas are much nicer. I still bet those mics would do a good job as well. Good luck in your search. yuri Thanks for all the help. I really understand the importance of investing in quallity mics and not building junk in my cabnit. But this is quite a catc 22 situation. I have a band ready to record with me and im having to put them off constantly cause i cant figure drum mics. Anywaz... So i also have the option of now picking up the Shure PGDMK6 drum mic kit. It fits nicely in budget, but i doubt it would really be anything to write home about. http://164.109.27.207/microphones/models/pgdmk6.asp |
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"Sidhu" wrote in message om... Just got a reply from the sound room. they have the Oktava MC012 stereo pair in stock and will ship to India. What say. I have mentioned uses (besides overheads) in a previous post. what say? Stereo mics (XY- ORTF) for live anything. Guitar and other stringed instruments, percusission, whatever. But i just figured, after paying customs and all for these mics, theyd almost end up costing me as much a pair AKG C451's. Man, i think i need to bite the bullet and starve for another 2 months. They may be better that the new 451EBs in some respects. geoff |
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Sidhu wrote: Just got a reply from the sound room. they have the Oktava MC012 stereo pair in stock and will ship to India. What say. I have mentioned uses (besides overheads) in a previous post. what say? I say you'll love them. Does his set still contain hyper, card and omni capsules for each? Bob -- "Things should be described as simply as possible, but no simpler." A. Einstein |
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Sidhu wrote:
Just got a reply from the sound room. they have the Oktava MC012 stereo pair in stock and will ship to India. What say. I have mentioned uses (besides overheads) in a previous post. what say? They are good reasonable all-purpose mikes. And I think having a good neutral set of small diaphragm condensers is probably the most important thing in your cabinet, and that you should skimp on everything else in order to get them. One good mike beats a cabinet of bad ones. But i just figured, after paying customs and all for these mics, theyd almost end up costing me as much a pair AKG C451's. Man, i think i need to bite the bullet and starve for another 2 months. I think they'll sound noticeably better than the C451EB mikes for a lot of things. Another thing you might look into is the EV N/D 468 egg mikes. They are rather inexpensive little dynamics that are very handy; much more directional than an SM-57 and they don't have a presence peak. They are sort of like a poor man's 441. --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." |
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Sidhu wrote:
(Scott Dorsey) wrote in message ... It's true that most of the big guys are in Bombay. But in Delhi I can name Simran Audio, Neelam, and Alfa Sound offhand. There are probably a few more. Ure scaring me. What you got do with here. my family lives very near simran. And i alwaz thought the above mentioned studios dont do much music, so never bothered. Need to Update meself and chek out. That's true, but even so you'll see stuff like the RE-20 being used as a voiceover microphone, for instance. It's worth just visiting, if only to see who you are competing against. Out of curiosity, when was the last u visited em ? I admit it's probably been ten years since I was out there. I was last out checking out an LP pressing facility for some Europeans who wanted to buy some of the equipment. Is JAI magnetic tape still available? Did they ever start making high output tapes? With the current tape situation here in the US, someone should start importing that stuff. --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." |
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Bob Cain wrote in message ...
Sidhu wrote: Just got a reply from the sound room. they have the Oktava MC012 stereo pair in stock and will ship to India. What say. I have mentioned uses (besides overheads) in a previous post. what say? I say you'll love them. Does his set still contain hyper, card and omni capsules for each? Yes, but u have the choice of ordering with just one kinda capsule. and thats what ill be going in for right now. I think the Cardiod (unless there are reasons for the other types). Bob |
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"Predrag Trpkov" wrote in message ...
"Sidhu" wrote in message om... I stand corrected. The oktava pair will cost me less than the 451. Sidhu With the Oktavas, unlike the new C451, you also have the option of adding quite affordable omni and hypercardioid capsules later. You may find it rather useful. Predrag thats what i felt. I think ill zero in on the 012 from Sound room. And get the capsules later if needed. Sidhu |
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"Sidhu" wrote in message om... Found out the price of the RE20. Tis bout 1300 USD here. HAHAHAHA!!!!!! Im sure the guy was joking ( or unaware). No, he wasn't joking, I'm afraid. Predrag |
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says... out the price of the RE20. Tis bout 1300 USD here. HAHAHAHA!!!!!! Im sure the guy was joking ( or unaware). The beyer M99 is very similar, and has two inbuilt eq curves that can be activated or not. http://www.beyerdynamic.com/com/prod....php3?find=m99 In europe it is half the price of a RE20. -- / Peter Kaersaa |
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Predrag Trpkov wrote:
"Sidhu" wrote: Found out the price of the RE20. Tis bout 1300 USD here. HAHAHAHA!!!!!! Im sure the guy was joking ( or unaware). No, he wasn't joking, I'm afraid. Sounds to me like it's time for grey marketing. Klay Alexander should at least ship to Hungary and India. --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." |
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Is JAI magnetic tape still available? Did they ever start making high output tapes? With the current tape situation here in the US, someone should start importing that stuff. U kidding me !!! Just today evening i transfered 7, 30min radio programmed to BRAND NEW JAI 1/4 INCH TAPE (7 of them)!!!! I think it's a lot better than INDU, the only other available. Want me to send you some ???? But i havnt seen any high output tape. Ill call tomorow and ask whats it that they are manufacturig. When I last saw them, JAI was making red-oxide tapes for broadcast applications. Low output... I think +3 over 185 nW/m. They were talking about a HOLN (high output low noise) tape for use at +3 over 250 nW/m, sort of like a typical high-grade tape from the early seventies before backcoating made it big. Heres the irony. The only ppl still asking for quater inch masters are the guyz at All India Radio, And each day I curse em for not porting to CD or DAT. Reason ? Cause while the tape is there and at reasonalble qualit, cant say the same for our 2 track machines. In the US, most folks are delivering CD or high resolution digital files to the mastering house, but there are still some folks delivering analogue tapes. What's sort of weird is that half-inch 2-track has become very popular in the last decade and has actually started to ease quarter-inch out. In any case, now that BASF/Emtec is gone, there is only one source for analogue tape in the US, Quantegy. Chek this out. The 2 trak at the studio wher i work konked off and spares we cud not find, so ? we took out the 2 track circuit board, along with the heads, and put em into our 4 trak machine. So now we have channels 1 and 3 of the 4 track recording 2 track master to a quater inch. That doesn't sound too bad. I have a single ATR-100 here, with a box of different head stacks. Sometimes it's 1/2" 4-track, sometimes it's 1/4" half-track, and every now and then it's 1/4" quarter-track, 1/4" four-track or 1/2" three-track. Only takes up a small amount of space in the room and in fifteen minutes you can swap from any format to any other. --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." |
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(Scott Dorsey) wrote in message ... Sounds to me like it's time for grey marketing. Klay Alexander should at least ship to Hungary and India. Who is Alexander ???? http://www.klay.com should do it. He sells a lot of gear to the broadcast industry so he is pretty used to working with companies abroad, and he has a good selection of products available. There are lots of other companies in the US that will ship to the rest of the world, too, he's just the guy I thought of first, and he's a good guy that I trust. --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." |
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In any case, now that BASF/Emtec is gone, there is only one source for
analogue tape in the US, Quantegy. Ppl. miss BASF out here too. But Maxells around. I think the JAI's are still red oxide, tommorows monday. Ill find out the details for you. But honestly, i fail to see much point in tape. It does changne the sound though. Sidhu |
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In any case, now that BASF/Emtec is gone, there is only one source for analogue tape in the US, Quantegy. Ppl. miss BASF out here too. But Maxells around. I think the JAI's are still red oxide, tommorows monday. Ill find out the details for you. But honestly, i fail to see much point in tape. It does changne the sound though. Not in the US. Last batch of Maxell UD in 1/4" was sold in the US this past winter. I don't know if it's being made in Japan and just not being sold in the US or they have stopped making it entirely. And they never did make it any wider than 1/4". --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." |
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Scott Dorsey wrote:
Sidhu wrote: Scott Dorsey) wrote... Sounds to me like it's time for grey marketing. Klay Alexander should at least ship to Hungary and India. Who is Alexander ???? http://www.klay.com should do it. He sells a lot of gear to the broadcast industry so he is pretty used to working with companies abroad, and he has a good selection of products available. But his website isn't the greatest so going there and then emailing him from the mail link might be advisable. But yes, Klay is a keen pro audio supplier. Highly recommended -- ha |
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One thing if you ppl. can help me out with is locating a company that will take orders online and ship to India, fast. Try Musicians Gear in Dubai http://www.musicians-gear.co.ae/ |
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