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on topic: we need a rec.audio.pro.ot newsgroup!
subject header says it ... Kind regards Peter Larsen -- ******************************************* * My site is at: http://www.muyiovatki.dk * ******************************************* |
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Peter Larsen wrote: subject header says it ... Respectfully I disagre what we(in the geocentric USA view) need is a president that actually gets elected and uses his position for the betterment of the USA and World alike George |
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"George" wrote in message ... In article , Peter Larsen wrote: subject header says it ... Respectfully I disagre what we(in the geocentric USA view) need is a president that actually gets elected and uses his position for the betterment of the USA and World alike Respectfully, I disagree with you. The reason for this newsgroup to exist is to discuss audio. I don't give a **** which "wing" you identify with, but if you are going to discuss it, do it elswhere, where it is encouraged. This is an AUDIO newsgroup. When the MAJORITY of the posts don't reflect AUDIO, then something is wrong. Take it elsewhere. When I decide I DO want to discuss politics, I'll meet you there. Kendall George |
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"Kendall" wrote: "George" wrote in message ... In article , Peter Larsen wrote: subject header says it ... Respectfully I disagre what we(in the geocentric USA view) need is a president that actually gets elected and uses his position for the betterment of the USA and World alike Respectfully, I disagree with you. The reason for this newsgroup to exist is to discuss audio. I don't give a **** which "wing" you identify with, but if you are going to discuss it, do it elswhere, where it is encouraged. This is an AUDIO newsgroup. When the MAJORITY of the posts don't reflect AUDIO, then something is wrong. Take it elsewhere. When I decide I DO want to discuss politics, I'll meet you there. I guess you don't understand that when the problem goes away so do the posts about it make all the other newsgroups you want, people will still post ot here George |
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"Peter Larsen" wrote in message
... subject header says it ... It's pretty easy to tell my a header what the conversation is about and easy enough to skip over it (though I do agree a handy way to "weed" the OT posts would be nice...a filter would work if everyone would use "OT:" in off-topic headers). |
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Kendall wrote: Respectfully, I disagree with you. The reason for this newsgroup to exist is to discuss audio. Kendall They are suggesting a separate area for that. Many moderated web based sites have a separate section like a water cooler area. It works. |
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wrote: Kendall wrote: Respectfully, I disagree with you. The reason for this newsgroup to exist is to discuss audio. Kendall They are suggesting a separate area for that. Many moderated web based sites have a separate section like a water cooler area. It works. the very fact this is NOT moderated is why people can explore what others think and feel on a moderated forum if you think diffrent from a moderator you are censored, so you want get rid of free flowing thoughts , just switch to a moderated format, but be careful what you wish for, it may just come true George |
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On Sun, 04 Jul 2004 21:02:52 GMT, George wrote:
In article , "Kendall" wrote: "George" wrote in message ... In article , Peter Larsen wrote: subject header says it ... Respectfully I disagre what we(in the geocentric USA view) need is a president that actually gets elected and uses his position for the betterment of the USA and World alike Respectfully, I disagree with you. The reason for this newsgroup to exist is to discuss audio. I don't give a **** which "wing" you identify with, but if you are going to discuss it, do it elswhere, where it is encouraged. This is an AUDIO newsgroup. When the MAJORITY of the posts don't reflect AUDIO, then something is wrong. Take it elsewhere. When I decide I DO want to discuss politics, I'll meet you there. I guess you don't understand that when the problem goes away so do the posts about it make all the other newsgroups you want, people will still post ot here George So, you're holding the newsgroup hostage until Bush is replaced? |
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George wrote:
Respectfully I disagre what we(in the geocentric USA view) need is a president that actually gets elected and uses his position for the You do realise that usenet spans the entire world. This AUDIO group is not US specific in any way. It has participants throughout the world. I live in Sweden. The OP in Denmark. Neither country is a part of the USA... US domestic politics is, well US domestic... Unlike audio and this group. betterment of the USA and World alike Oh -- "better the world"...? Please don't! George Lars -- lars farm // http://www.farm.se |
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I guess you don't understand that when the problem goes away so do the posts about it make all the other newsgroups you want, people will still post ot here George So, you're holding the newsgroup hostage until Bush is replaced? please let me know what newsreader you have I will email you instruction on how to killfile my posts, you will not even know I exist thanks george |
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Peter Larsen wrote:
subject header says it ... Kind regards Peter Larsen Is that rec.audio.pro. 'on topic', or 'off topic' ? geoff |
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From: "Geoff Wood"
Is that rec.audio.pro. 'on topic', or 'off topic' ? geoff I think it should be for "off topic," so that George will have a place for his audio related threads -John Vice www.summertimestudios.com |
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Geoff Wood wrote:
Is that rec.audio.pro. 'on topic', or 'off topic' ? rec.audio.pro.off-topic then, or perhaps as someone implicitly suggested: rec.audio.pro.watercooler. I'm earnest about this, because time has proven that there is a bona fide need for this group of people to chat also about things non-audio. geoff Kind regards Peter Larsen -- ******************************************* * My site is at: http://www.muyiovatki.dk * ******************************************* |
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John wrote:
From: "Geoff Wood" Is that rec.audio.pro. 'on topic', or 'off topic' ? geoff I think it should be for "off topic," so that George will have a place for his audio related threads -John Vice www.summertimestudios.com Hey ! You could start your own newsgroup too; "rec.vice" . Should get some interesting topics .... geoff |
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"George" wrote in message
In article , Peter Larsen wrote: subject header says it ... Respectfully I disagre what we(in the geocentric USA view) need is a president that actually gets elected and uses his position for the betterment of the USA and World alike George, there's over 20,000 other Usenet groups where you can argue about politics. Approximately 740 of them even have the word politics in their name. What we really need on RAP is audio guys who give a crap about audio. George when't the last day where you made as many audio-related posts on RAP as the politics and the anti-religiou crap? Oh, I forgot, you're too busy bashing people because of their politics and religion to have much time for audio. Face it George, you're just a lonely man who is looking for attention at any cost. You apparently don't do enough with audio to have that much to say about it. |
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"George" wrote in message
I guess you don't understand that when the problem goes away so do the posts about it make all the other newsgroups you want, people will still post ot here George, I guess you don't understand that there are more than 20,000 other Usenet groups for you to bash people for their politics and religion in. over 750 of them have politics in their name, and another 750 or so have religion in thier names. I can only presume you don't post your political opinions in groups with relevant names, because the people there are so on top of things political that they would show you up too badly. |
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"George" wrote in message
I guess you don't understand that when the problem goes away so do the posts about it make all the other newsgroups you want, people will still post ot here George So, you're holding the newsgroup hostage until Bush is replaced? please let me know what newsreader you have I will email you instruction on how to killfile my posts, you will not even know I exist George, knowlege of you is like herpes. Once one knows you exist, one can't get rid of the knowledge. |
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On Sun, 4 Jul 2004 16:59:37 -0400, Kendall wrote
(in article ) : "George" wrote in message ... In article , Peter Larsen wrote: subject header says it ... Respectfully I disagre what we(in the geocentric USA view) need is a president that actually gets elected and uses his position for the betterment of the USA and World alike Respectfully, I disagree with you. The reason for this newsgroup to exist is to discuss audio. I don't give a **** which "wing" you identify with, but if you are going to discuss it, do it elswhere, where it is encouraged. This is an AUDIO newsgroup. When the MAJORITY of the posts don't reflect AUDIO, then something is wrong. Take it elsewhere. When I decide I DO want to discuss politics, I'll meet you there. Kendall Well put Kendall. If newsgroup bullies like George, Roger, Romeo, Don need any more convincing, I'd welcome comments from ALL of our members to discourage them from exercising their arrogance in this newsgroup. As I mentioned in a response yesterday, this arrogance and ignorance is WHY people flew planes into our WTC buildings. You should all be ashamed for your lack of respect to this group. You are a credit to no one and a discredit to this group. Sincerely, Ty Ford -- Ty Ford's equipment reviews, audio samples, rates and other audiocentric stuff are at http://home.comcast.net/~tyreeford |
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On Sun, 4 Jul 2004 17:25:42 -0400, Ricky W. Hunt wrote
(in article qB_Fc.24575$Oq2.23502@attbi_s52): "Peter Larsen" wrote in message ... subject header says it ... It's pretty easy to tell my a header what the conversation is about and easy enough to skip over it (though I do agree a handy way to "weed" the OT posts would be nice...a filter would work if everyone would use "OT:" in off-topic headers). Sorry, That's not good enough when people like Romeo, George, Roger, Don, Will and one or two more persist in spewing their crap on the rest of us. The are simply ignorant bullies. The only way to deal with them is head on, which is starting to happen now. Bullies usually cave quite quickly when they are called on their abuse. Start calling directly, now. Regards, Ty Ford -- Ty Ford's equipment reviews, audio samples, rates and other audiocentric stuff are at http://home.comcast.net/~tyreeford |
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Ty Ford wrote: On Sun, 4 Jul 2004 17:25:42 -0400, Ricky W. Hunt wrote (in article qB_Fc.24575$Oq2.23502@attbi_s52): "Peter Larsen" wrote in message ... subject header says it ... It's pretty easy to tell my a header what the conversation is about and easy enough to skip over it (though I do agree a handy way to "weed" the OT posts would be nice...a filter would work if everyone would use "OT:" in off-topic headers). Sorry, That's not good enough when people like Romeo, George, Roger, Don, Will and one or two more persist in spewing their crap on the rest of us. The are simply ignorant bullies. The only way to deal with them is head on, which is starting to happen now. Bullies usually cave quite quickly when they are called on their abuse. Let me show you how a killfile works. PLONK |
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Just like I said folks, stand up to bullies and they cave.
I get this email from George Gleason complaining that I shouldn't be sending him email about his atrocious misbehavior on this newgroup. Turns out it's OK for George to **** all over us, but he gets quite chilly about anyone who dares invade his private mailbox. Dearest George, You are quite the maroon. Thanks for disembowling yourself for us all to see; lovely colors and all that, nice green bile, yellow spine. And BTW folks, be sure and let George personally know how you feel about it. Regards, Ty Ford On Mon, 5 Jul 2004 11:52:15 -0400, George wrote (in article ): In article , Ty Ford wrote: On Sun, 4 Jul 2004 17:25:42 -0400, Ricky W. Hunt wrote (in article qB_Fc.24575$Oq2.23502@attbi_s52): "Peter Larsen" wrote in message ... subject header says it ... It's pretty easy to tell my a header what the conversation is about and easy enough to skip over it (though I do agree a handy way to "weed" the OT posts would be nice...a filter would work if everyone would use "OT:" in off-topic headers). Sorry, That's not good enough when people like Romeo, George, Roger, Don, Will and one or two more persist in spewing their crap on the rest of us. The are simply ignorant bullies. The only way to deal with them is head on, which is starting to happen now. Bullies usually cave quite quickly when they are called on their abuse. Let me show you how a killfile works. PLONK -- Ty Ford's equipment reviews, audio samples, rates and other audiocentric stuff are at http://home.comcast.net/~tyreeford |
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Ty Ford wrote: Just like I said folks, stand up to bullies and they cave. You seem to be doing a bit of bullying yourself. |
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George wrote:
In article , Peter Larsen wrote: subject header says it ... Respectfully I disagre what we(in the geocentric USA view) need is a president that actually gets elected The last election was so close it went beyond the resolution of the voting system. The system was not equipped to capture the information, so the results were, in a sense, random garbage. This is just the same sort of thing that would happen if you tried to capture a short 25 kHz sine wave with a 44.1 kHz sampler, or if you tried to measure the width of a human hair with one of those wooden rulers many of us used in grade school. The point is, if Gore had been chosen to take office, it would hardly have been totally legitimate either. Given the way the election went, *neither* of them could have been described as "actually elected", at least not 100%. That is why I personally find this "Bush wasn't elected" stuff to be really juvenile, just as I would find it really juvenile if Gore had been elected and the conservatives said the same thing about him, which they certainly would have. It's actually a little bit worse than the "Don't Blame Me, I Voted for XYZ" stuff. But both of them are really about congratulating yourself about how right and good you and your party are and how you and your party are not to blame for any of the nation's problems. People who do this kind of cheerleading for their own group seem, to me at least, to be more concerned about proving that they're right than they are about doing anything constructive. It's a natural enough human tendancy, but that doesn't mean it's anything I want to hear about. Honestly, if you want someone else in office and you think that would be more constructive, an election is coming up very shortly, and you could try to convince people why one candidate would do better than another. As it is, you seem to be just convincing me that some liberals are kind of nutty and too inconsiderate to let things drop when practically everyone in the newsgroup is asking them to. (Don't worry -- I also believe that the same is true about some conservatives.) - Logan |
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Ricky W. Hunt wrote:
It's pretty easy to tell my a header what the conversation is about and easy enough to skip over it (though I do agree a handy way to "weed" the OT posts would be nice...a filter would work if everyone would use "OT:" in off-topic headers). There's only one problem with the "OT:" thing, which is that, if you think you should be putting "OT:" in the subject, then you really shouldn't be posting at all, or at least not to the group you are thinking of posting to. Plus, if most everyone *did* do that, then there would be people who would decide on purpose to leave out the "OT:", because they know if they include it, their post won't be seen by as many people. And those would be the most annoying posts of all... - Logan |
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Ty Ford wrote: The are simply ignorant bullies. The only way to deal with them is head on, which is starting to happen now. Bullies usually cave quite quickly when they are called on their abuse. Ty, to me a bully is one that attempts to intimidate others or to control them in ways they don't agree to. Given the ease with which you can make what you don't want to see invisible I just can't understand why you wish to stop others from talking among themselves about other things that are very important to them. Bob -- "Things should be described as simply as possible, but no simpler." A. Einstein |
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Bob Cain wrote: Ty Ford wrote: The are simply ignorant bullies. The only way to deal with them is head on, which is starting to happen now. Bullies usually cave quite quickly when they are called on their abuse. Ty, to me a bully is one that attempts to intimidate others or to control them in ways they don't agree to. Given the ease with which you can make what you don't want to see invisible I just can't understand why you wish to stop others from talking among themselves about other things that are very important to them. and my experiance is these things burn out on thier own after a week or so, unless the topic has real legs, but still there is only so much that can be said before even the posters are bored with it no netcop required George |
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Logan Shaw wrote:
George wrote: Respectfully I disagre what we(in the geocentric USA view) need is a president that actually gets elected The last election was so close it went beyond the resolution of the voting system. The system was not equipped to capture the information, so the results were, in a sense, random garbage. This is just the same sort of thing that would happen if you tried to capture a short 25 kHz sine wave with a 44.1 kHz sampler, or if you tried to measure the width of a human hair with one of those wooden rulers many of us used in grade school. The point is, if Gore had been chosen to take office, it would hardly have been totally legitimate either. Given the way the election went, *neither* of them could have been described as "actually elected", at least not 100%. That's all well and good as long as you continue to ignore the *thousands* of voters purged from the Florada rolls due to nonexistant felony convictions, said purging having been conducted by a Texas company with unsettling ties to the Bush family. |
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That's all well and good as long as you continue to ignore the *thousands* of voters purged from the Florada rolls due to nonexistant felony convictions, said purging having been conducted by a Texas company with unsettling ties to the Bush family. personally I feel the president should be required to get 65% of the popular vote , no electorial college", and if a 65% is not reached we go back and do it again force a change of position on issues until one canidate is able to capture the will of the people of course this would never come to be, and I am sure there would be problems with it that I have not imagined yet G |
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On Mon, 5 Jul 2004 14:36:39 -0400, Pete Dimsman wrote
(in article ): Ty Ford wrote: Just like I said folks, stand up to bullies and they cave. You seem to be doing a bit of bullying yourself. Peter, If you want to take it off group. I'll take it up with you. Your present email prevents that. Ty Ford -- Ty Ford's equipment reviews, audio samples, rates and other audiocentric stuff are at http://home.comcast.net/~tyreeford |
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I guess you don't understand that when the problem goes away so do the
posts about it Sound like "trickle down" to me. John A. Chiara SOS Recording Studio Live Sound Inc. Albany, NY www.sosrecording.net 518-449-1637 |
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Posting this to the root will help reduce the off-topic post content how?
On Mon, 5 Jul 2004 14:31:40 -0400, Ty Ford wrote: Just like I said folks, stand up to bullies and they cave. I get this email from George Gleason complaining that I shouldn't be sending him email about his atrocious misbehavior on this newgroup. Turns out it's OK for George to **** all over us, but he gets quite chilly about anyone who dares invade his private mailbox. Dearest George, You are quite the maroon. Thanks for disembowling yourself for us all to see; lovely colors and all that, nice green bile, yellow spine. And BTW folks, be sure and let George personally know how you feel about it. Regards, Ty Ford On Mon, 5 Jul 2004 11:52:15 -0400, George wrote (in article ): In article , Ty Ford wrote: On Sun, 4 Jul 2004 17:25:42 -0400, Ricky W. Hunt wrote (in article qB_Fc.24575$Oq2.23502@attbi_s52): "Peter Larsen" wrote in message ... subject header says it ... It's pretty easy to tell my a header what the conversation is about and easy enough to skip over it (though I do agree a handy way to "weed" the OT posts would be nice...a filter would work if everyone would use "OT:" in off-topic headers). Sorry, That's not good enough when people like Romeo, George, Roger, Don, Will and one or two more persist in spewing their crap on the rest of us. The are simply ignorant bullies. The only way to deal with them is head on, which is starting to happen now. Bullies usually cave quite quickly when they are called on their abuse. Let me show you how a killfile works. PLONK -- Ty Ford's equipment reviews, audio samples, rates and other audiocentric stuff are at http://home.comcast.net/~tyreeford |
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"Ty Ford" wrote in message
news You are stepping over a very fine line, Ty. I just got finished posting on another thread, a political thread ( Dear Right Wingers..TAKE IT OFF LINST NOW, GEORGE, PAUL....) to which you demanded the posts be taken elsewhere, btw, that I agreed with your assessment that we are overstepping the bounds of the charter, but I will not hold truck with you making such statements as If newsgroup bullies like George, Roger, Romeo, Don need any more convincing, I'd welcome comments from ALL of our members to discourage them from exercising their arrogance in this newsgroup. So would I. You might find out something different, or you may wholeheartedly be supported. But regardless of the possible support FOR the threads, I'm willing to try to divert my attention to audio. As I mentioned in a response yesterday, this arrogance and ignorance is WHY people flew planes into our WTC buildings. Your opinion that I am somehow such a problem as was exhibited on 9/11 is offensive to me personally. You don't hold that right. You imply that I've personally been offensive to you with my arrogance and ignorance. Fine. You can CHOOSE to ignore it. However, since you don't, I'd suggest you read my one post on your topic police interjections within the previously listed thread. I am not ashamed of my concerns for this country, nor that I CHOOSE to discuss them with a virtual roomful of my "peers" although I recognize that I'm not worthy of being designated a peer of hardly anyone here. Regardless, you need to get a grip but I don't appreciate that grip being around my neck. This time, my friend, you owe me the telephone call and the apology. Maybe I'll answer but I most certainly will not be holding my breath. -- Roger W. Norman SirMusic Studio On Sun, 4 Jul 2004 16:59:37 -0400, Kendall wrote (in article ) : "George" wrote in message ... In article , Peter Larsen wrote: subject header says it ... Respectfully I disagre what we(in the geocentric USA view) need is a president that actually gets elected and uses his position for the betterment of the USA and World alike Respectfully, I disagree with you. The reason for this newsgroup to exist is to discuss audio. I don't give a **** which "wing" you identify with, but if you are going to discuss it, do it elswhere, where it is encouraged. This is an AUDIO newsgroup. When the MAJORITY of the posts don't reflect AUDIO, then something is wrong. Take it elsewhere. When I decide I DO want to discuss politics, I'll meet you there. Kendall Well put Kendall. You should all be ashamed for your lack of respect to this group. You are a credit to no one and a discredit to this group. Sincerely, Ty Ford -- Ty Ford's equipment reviews, audio samples, rates and other audiocentric stuff are at http://home.comcast.net/~tyreeford |
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One thing is true. Bush IS the president, he sits in the chair at the White
House, he has the Joint Chiefs of Staff at his beck and call, and he has installed his cabinet and fired some of his selections. He certainly seems to be the President. But we need to let this stuff drop and get back to the important issues of audio, like, like...well, I guess I just don't see any important issues in audio right now other than my ability to afford any new upgrades simply because marketing has convinced me that I can't come out with a decent CD without Pro Tools HD. Or maybe I should argue that MXL mics have achieved the level of quality of Neumann mics? Did anyone do any interesting live recordings over the 4th holiday weekend? -- Roger W. Norman SirMusic Studio "Logan Shaw" wrote in message ... George wrote: In article , Peter Larsen wrote: subject header says it ... Respectfully I disagre what we(in the geocentric USA view) need is a president that actually gets elected The last election was so close it went beyond the resolution of the voting system. The system was not equipped to capture the information, so the results were, in a sense, random garbage. This is just the same sort of thing that would happen if you tried to capture a short 25 kHz sine wave with a 44.1 kHz sampler, or if you tried to measure the width of a human hair with one of those wooden rulers many of us used in grade school. The point is, if Gore had been chosen to take office, it would hardly have been totally legitimate either. Given the way the election went, *neither* of them could have been described as "actually elected", at least not 100%. That is why I personally find this "Bush wasn't elected" stuff to be really juvenile, just as I would find it really juvenile if Gore had been elected and the conservatives said the same thing about him, which they certainly would have. It's actually a little bit worse than the "Don't Blame Me, I Voted for XYZ" stuff. But both of them are really about congratulating yourself about how right and good you and your party are and how you and your party are not to blame for any of the nation's problems. People who do this kind of cheerleading for their own group seem, to me at least, to be more concerned about proving that they're right than they are about doing anything constructive. It's a natural enough human tendancy, but that doesn't mean it's anything I want to hear about. Honestly, if you want someone else in office and you think that would be more constructive, an election is coming up very shortly, and you could try to convince people why one candidate would do better than another. As it is, you seem to be just convincing me that some liberals are kind of nutty and too inconsiderate to let things drop when practically everyone in the newsgroup is asking them to. (Don't worry -- I also believe that the same is true about some conservatives.) - Logan |
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Ty Ford wrote: That's not good enough when people like Romeo, George, Roger, Don, Will and one or two more persist in spewing their crap on the rest of us. The are simply ignorant bullies. The only way to deal with them is head on, which is starting to happen now. Bullies usually cave quite quickly when they are called on their abuse. Start calling directly, now. Glad to be on your "short list", Ty. It's the first time in my life I've ever been called a bully. I've been working out. Does it show? Don |
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Ty Ford wrote: If newsgroup bullies like George, Roger, Romeo, Don need any more convincing, I'd welcome comments from ALL of our members to discourage them from exercising their arrogance in this newsgroup. Ty, I'll appreciate if you stop using my name. I've never used yours, except to respond to you. Thanks in advance, Don |
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On Mon, 5 Jul 2004 16:04:39 +1200, Geoff Wood -nospam wrote:
Peter Larsen wrote: subject header says it ... Kind regards Peter Larsen Is that rec.audio.pro. 'on topic', or 'off topic' ? Well, if you're just starting out, you should probably get yourself a couple of SM-57s. First, they're pretty much a known quantity. Plus a lot of plug-ins are of th "change the tone of an SM-57 to an ..." variety, which can be fun to play with if you're thinking just what that $10k tube mic would sound like. |
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Trickle down, to me, means when I'm 90% still asleep and don't quite make
the toilet. Maybe that's why I didn't like Reagan's idea of economics! g -- Roger W. Norman SirMusic Studio "Blind Joni" wrote in message ... I guess you don't understand that when the problem goes away so do the posts about it Sound like "trickle down" to me. John A. Chiara SOS Recording Studio Live Sound Inc. Albany, NY www.sosrecording.net 518-449-1637 |
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Fine. I'm already ****ed at Ty. You wanna miss the party too? g
-- Roger W. Norman SirMusic Studio "Romeo Rondeau" wrote in message ... "Don Cooper" wrote in message ... Ty Ford wrote: That's not good enough when people like Romeo, George, Roger, Don, Will and one or two more persist in spewing their crap on the rest of us. The are simply ignorant bullies. The only way to deal with them is head on, which is starting to happen now. Bullies usually cave quite quickly when they are called on their abuse. Start calling directly, now. Glad to be on your "short list", Ty. It's the first time in my life I've ever been called a bully. I've been working out. Does it show? What is the definition of a newsgroup bully anyway? How did I become one? I blame it ALL on Roger! *grin* :-) |
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