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DonkeyBorg brayed: Have you been approved to respond to my posts? I don't see you on the list. Is that some variation on "don't ask me tricky questions I have no answer to" ? No, you stupid donkey, it's a polite way of telling you to **** off. And not because your idiotic questions are difficult, but because you're a Krooger-loving troll and an total ****head. I hope that's clear enough, but if not, I'll be glad to expand on it. -- "Christians have to ... work to make the world as loving, just, and supportive as is possible." A. Krooger, Aug. 2006 |
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George M. Middius wrote: DonkeyBorg brayed: Have you been approved to respond to my posts? I don't see you on the list. Is that some variation on "don't ask me tricky questions I have no answer to" ? No, you stupid donkey, it's a polite way of telling you to **** off. And not because your idiotic questions are difficult, but because you're a Krooger-loving troll and an total ****head. I hope that's clear enough, but if not, I'll be glad to expand on it. Of course we could remind our new friend Graham here how his pal Arny really buys turntables. You know, how he e-mailed me under another name to ask my what I recommended, and when I told him to buy a Rega Planar 3, or a Planar 2 with an RB250 arm at the very least, he went on e-bay and purchased one of the oldest and cheapest P2s he could find, with the crappy, mismatched Mayware arm, and then tried to tell everyone I didn't know what I was talking about because it didn't sound very good. Is it possible that Graham thinks this is a better way to buy a 'table? Or is he starting to realize that when you lie down with dogs,you get ****-smeared $1000 checks? Boon A. Krooger, Aug. 2006 |
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wrote in message oups.com... Of course we could remind our new friend Graham here how his pal Arny really buys turntables. You know, how he e-mailed me under another name to ask my what I recommended, and when I told him to buy a Rega Planar 3, or a Planar 2 with an RB250 arm at the very least, True, but out of budget. he went on e-bay and purchased one of the oldest and cheapest P2s he could find, with the crappy, mismatched Mayware arm, True, and within budget. and then tried to tell everyone I didn't know what I was talking about because it didn't sound very good. Another one of Marc's paranoid delusions. |
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Arny Krueger wrote: wrote in message oups.com... Of course we could remind our new friend Graham here how his pal Arny really buys turntables. You know, how he e-mailed me under another name to ask my what I recommended, and when I told him to buy a Rega Planar 3, or a Planar 2 with an RB250 arm at the very least, True, but out of budget. he went on e-bay and purchased one of the oldest and cheapest P2s he could find, with the crappy, mismatched Mayware arm, True, and within budget. and then tried to tell everyone I didn't know what I was talking about because it didn't sound very good. Another one of Marc's paranoid delusions. In other words, the whole incident backfired on you, and you looked like an idiot. But then again, that's the essence of the Marc and Arny Story. Boon |
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Marc said to Poopie B'ar: Is it possible that Graham thinks this is a better way to buy a 'table? I wouldn't even remotely consider using one other than for entertainment purpose any more. Well, what would you use a music reproduction system for, other than entertainment? Poopie is a fevered follower of the maniacal Dr. Not, who preaches that "audio is a deadly serious business". -- "Christians have to ... work to make the world as loving, just, and supportive as is possible." A. Krooger, Aug. 2006 |
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"George M. Middius" wrote: Marc said to Poopie B'ar: Is it possible that Graham thinks this is a better way to buy a 'table? I wouldn't even remotely consider using one other than for entertainment purpose any more. Well, what would you use a music reproduction system for, other than entertainment? Poopie is a fevered follower of the maniacal Dr. Not, who preaches that "audio is a deadly serious business". It's only serious when I'm making money from it. Ok.... who here earns an income from audio ? Graham me of course - and........ |
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Eeyore wrote: "George M. Middius" wrote: Marc said to Poopie B'ar: Is it possible that Graham thinks this is a better way to buy a 'table? I wouldn't even remotely consider using one other than for entertainment purpose any more. Well, what would you use a music reproduction system for, other than entertainment? Poopie is a fevered follower of the maniacal Dr. Not, who preaches that "audio is a deadly serious business". It's only serious when I'm making money from it. Ok.... who here earns an income from audio ? Graham me of course - and........ Me. Boon |
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Eeyore wrote: wrote: Eeyore wrote: wrote: George M. Middius wrote: DonkeyBorg brayed: Have you been approved to respond to my posts? I don't see you on the list. Is that some variation on "don't ask me tricky questions I have no answer to" ? No, you stupid donkey, it's a polite way of telling you to **** off. And not because your idiotic questions are difficult, but because you're a Krooger-loving troll and an total ****head. I hope that's clear enough, but if not, I'll be glad to expand on it. Of course we could remind our new friend Graham here how his pal Arny really buys turntables. You know, how he e-mailed me under another name to ask my what I recommended, and when I told him to buy a Rega Planar 3, or a Planar 2 with an RB250 arm at the very least, he went on e-bay and purchased one of the oldest and cheapest P2s he could find, with the crappy, mismatched Mayware arm, and then tried to tell everyone I didn't know what I was talking about because it didn't sound very good. Is it possible that Graham thinks this is a better way to buy a 'table? I wouldn't even remotely consider using one other than for entertainment purpose any more. Graham Well, what would you use a music reproduction system for, other than entertainment? As in not listening seriously. Who said you could reply to my posts anyway ? You're right. As most Kroopologists, you're simply not smart enough to have a conversation with me. Boon |
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wrote in message oups.com... George M. Middius wrote: DonkeyBorg brayed: Have you been approved to respond to my posts? I don't see you on the list. Is that some variation on "don't ask me tricky questions I have no answer to" ? No, you stupid donkey, it's a polite way of telling you to **** off. And not because your idiotic questions are difficult, but because you're a Krooger-loving troll and an total ****head. I hope that's clear enough, but if not, I'll be glad to expand on it. Of course we could remind our new friend Graham here how his pal Arny really buys turntables. You know, how he e-mailed me under another name to ask my what I recommended, and when I told him to buy a Rega Planar 3, or a Planar 2 with an RB250 arm at the very least, he went on e-bay and purchased one of the oldest and cheapest P2s he could find, with the crappy, mismatched Mayware arm, and then tried to tell everyone I didn't know what I was talking about because it didn't sound very good. snip Or when he bought the lowest priced SACD player available and then proclaimed he couldn't hear any difference between SACD and CD, so those of us who did hear a difference (on better players, and possibly with better systems) were "wrong". Of course this was a year after he had already reached that conclusion because in his mind theory = evidence. |
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Eeyore wrote: "George M. Middius" wrote: Marc said to Poopie B'ar: Is it possible that Graham thinks this is a better way to buy a 'table? I wouldn't even remotely consider using one other than for entertainment purpose any more. Well, what would you use a music reproduction system for, other than entertainment? Poopie is a fevered follower of the maniacal Dr. Not, who preaches that "audio is a deadly serious business". It's only serious when I'm making money from it. Ok.... who here earns an income from audio ? Graham me of course - and........ And who earns an income producing what the audio business exists to reproduce? ;-) |
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duh-Donkey dorked: Ok.... who here earns an income from audio ? me of course - and........ Even though your paid hackery is irrelevant to posting opinions about consumer audio gear, I'll point out that Arnii Krooborg does NOT earn an income from audio. -- "Christians have to ... work to make the world as loving, just, and supportive as is possible." A. Krooger, Aug. 2006 |
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Jenn wrote: Eeyore wrote: "George M. Middius" wrote: Marc said to Poopie B'ar: Is it possible that Graham thinks this is a better way to buy a 'table? I wouldn't even remotely consider using one other than for entertainment purpose any more. Well, what would you use a music reproduction system for, other than entertainment? Poopie is a fevered follower of the maniacal Dr. Not, who preaches that "audio is a deadly serious business". It's only serious when I'm making money from it. Ok.... who here earns an income from audio ? Graham me of course - and........ And who earns an income producing what the audio business exists to reproduce? ;-) It's very nice but strictly a different category. Graham |
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Eeyore wrote: Jenn wrote: Eeyore wrote: "George M. Middius" wrote: Marc said to Poopie B'ar: Is it possible that Graham thinks this is a better way to buy a 'table? I wouldn't even remotely consider using one other than for entertainment purpose any more. Well, what would you use a music reproduction system for, other than entertainment? Poopie is a fevered follower of the maniacal Dr. Not, who preaches that "audio is a deadly serious business". It's only serious when I'm making money from it. Ok.... who here earns an income from audio ? Graham me of course - and........ And who earns an income producing what the audio business exists to reproduce? ;-) It's very nice but strictly a different category. Graham True, but you'd have a hard time without us. Spoken word and sound effects CDs aren't really top sellers. ;-) |
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Jenn wrote: Eeyore wrote: Jenn wrote: Eeyore wrote: "George M. Middius" wrote: Marc said to Poopie B'ar: Is it possible that Graham thinks this is a better way to buy a 'table? I wouldn't even remotely consider using one other than for entertainment purpose any more. Well, what would you use a music reproduction system for, other than entertainment? Poopie is a fevered follower of the maniacal Dr. Not, who preaches that "audio is a deadly serious business". It's only serious when I'm making money from it. Ok.... who here earns an income from audio ? Graham me of course - and........ And who earns an income producing what the audio business exists to reproduce? ;-) It's very nice but strictly a different category. Graham True, but you'd have a hard time without us. Spoken word and sound effects CDs aren't really top sellers. ;-) Just out of interest, by your own estimation, how critical a listener are you ? My next-door neighbour, a professional violinist amuses me that he listens to music on a crappy midi system. Graham |
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"Jenn" wrote in message ... In article , Eeyore wrote: "George M. Middius" wrote: Marc said to Poopie B'ar: Is it possible that Graham thinks this is a better way to buy a 'table? I wouldn't even remotely consider using one other than for entertainment purpose any more. Well, what would you use a music reproduction system for, other than entertainment? Poopie is a fevered follower of the maniacal Dr. Not, who preaches that "audio is a deadly serious business". It's only serious when I'm making money from it. Ok.... who here earns an income from audio ? Graham me of course - and........ And who earns an income producing what the audio business exists to reproduce? ;-) Bunch of money grubbing hoes. Music should be free and hifi's funded by the government! ScottW |
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Eeyore wrote: Jenn wrote: Eeyore wrote: Jenn wrote: Eeyore wrote: "George M. Middius" wrote: Marc said to Poopie B'ar: Is it possible that Graham thinks this is a better way to buy a 'table? I wouldn't even remotely consider using one other than for entertainment purpose any more. Well, what would you use a music reproduction system for, other than entertainment? Poopie is a fevered follower of the maniacal Dr. Not, who preaches that "audio is a deadly serious business". It's only serious when I'm making money from it. Ok.... who here earns an income from audio ? Graham me of course - and........ And who earns an income producing what the audio business exists to reproduce? ;-) It's very nice but strictly a different category. Graham True, but you'd have a hard time without us. Spoken word and sound effects CDs aren't really top sellers. ;-) Just out of interest, by your own estimation, how critical a listener are you ? Very. My next-door neighbour, a professional violinist amuses me that he listens to music on a crappy midi system. Graham I have a theory about this kind of thing, which I'll share later. |
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wrote in message ups.com... Arny Krueger wrote: wrote in message oups.com... Of course we could remind our new friend Graham here how his pal Arny really buys turntables. You know, how he e-mailed me under another name to ask my what I recommended, and when I told him to buy a Rega Planar 3, or a Planar 2 with an RB250 arm at the very least, True, but out of budget. he went on e-bay and purchased one of the oldest and cheapest P2s he could find, with the crappy, mismatched Mayware arm, True, and within budget. and then tried to tell everyone I didn't know what I was talking about because it didn't sound very good. Another one of Marc's paranoid delusions. Marc again tries to fight substance with fire In other words, the whole incident backfired on you, and you looked like an idiot. That's why you ran away from RAO with your tail between your legs, Marc. Why did it take so long for you to come back? But then again, that's the essence of the Marc and Arny Story. I cut, Marc runs. |
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"Harry Lavo" wrote in message
. .. Or when he bought the lowest priced SACD player available Harry, isn't it true that you said that the Pioneer universal player was capable of showing the benefits of the SACD format? and then proclaimed he couldn't hear any difference between SACD and CD, Never happened. so those of us who did hear a difference (on better players, and possibly with better systems) were "wrong". Reliance on inherently flawed sighted evaluations noted. |
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"Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... "Harry Lavo" wrote in message . .. Or when he bought the lowest priced SACD player available Harry, isn't it true that you said that the Pioneer universal player was capable of showing the benefits of the SACD format? Absolutely not. You obviously are letting your opinion of me get in the way of what I've said....at least three times on usenet, including RAO. SACD is the weakest format played by the 578a. It's conversion to PCM destroys the ambience readily available on native DSD decoding players. It is its DVD-A that is really strong, and its CD acceptable. Pay attention. and then proclaimed he couldn't hear any difference between SACD and CD, Never happened. Bull****! so those of us who did hear a difference (on better players, and possibly with better systems) were "wrong". Reliance on inherently flawed sighted evaluations noted. Versus never having done a careful comparison test (albeit sighted) of SACD vs CD at all, as I did Arny, using carefully selected, identically sourced materials? Go back and read the RAHE archives. You had your opinion before you bought the SACD machine that SACD contributed no audible difference, and you've continued to assert that since. When challenged as to what kind of (non-computer) testing you've done to assert that, you've ducked. |
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Arny Krueger wrote: "Harry Lavo" wrote in message . .. Or when he bought the lowest priced SACD player available Harry, isn't it true that you said that the Pioneer universal player was capable of showing the benefits of the SACD format? and then proclaimed he couldn't hear any difference between SACD and CD, Never happened. so those of us who did hear a difference (on better players, and possibly with better systems) were "wrong". Reliance on inherently flawed sighted evaluations noted. ====================================== Professor , Doctor Krueger says to Harry: Reliance on inherently flawed sighted evaluations noted. Professor, Doctor Krueger watches through a chink in the curtains as Harry listens. He KNOWS that Harry never compares blind. Professor,Doctor Krueger has a patented, world famous, approved by all the Hollywood celebrities, cure. Get it on his ABX website. Guaranteed to demonstrate that there is no difference between anything and anything else. A fan, Ludovic Mirabel. |
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Arny Krueger wrote: wrote in message ups.com... Arny Krueger wrote: wrote in message oups.com... Of course we could remind our new friend Graham here how his pal Arny really buys turntables. You know, how he e-mailed me under another name to ask my what I recommended, and when I told him to buy a Rega Planar 3, or a Planar 2 with an RB250 arm at the very least, True, but out of budget. he went on e-bay and purchased one of the oldest and cheapest P2s he could find, with the crappy, mismatched Mayware arm, True, and within budget. and then tried to tell everyone I didn't know what I was talking about because it didn't sound very good. Another one of Marc's paranoid delusions. Marc again tries to fight substance with fire In other words, the whole incident backfired on you, and you looked like an idiot. That's why you ran away from RAO with your tail between your legs, Marc. Why did it take so long for you to come back? But then again, that's the essence of the Marc and Arny Story. I cut, Marc runs. Oh, we're trotting out the "Marc only appears here sporadically, so his views are suspect" pablum, eh? That has to be the stupidest argument you ever conceived, because all it ever really illustrates is how empty and meaningless you life is, and that you have to spend it arguing with strangers on the Internet. I don't know how many times I can point this out to you. Then again, one of the best definitions of insanity is when you make the same mistake over and over and over. Boon |
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Harry Lavo wrote: "Arny Krueger" wrote Harry, isn't it true that you said that the Pioneer universal player was capable of showing the benefits of the SACD format? Absolutely not. You obviously are letting your opinion of me get in the way of what I've said....at least three times on usenet, including RAO. SACD is the weakest format played by the 578a. It's conversion to PCM destroys the ambience readily available on native DSD decoding players How ? Graham |
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"Eeyore" wrote in message ... Harry Lavo wrote: "Arny Krueger" wrote Harry, isn't it true that you said that the Pioneer universal player was capable of showing the benefits of the SACD format? Absolutely not. You obviously are letting your opinion of me get in the way of what I've said....at least three times on usenet, including RAO. SACD is the weakest format played by the 578a. It's conversion to PCM destroys the ambience readily available on native DSD decoding players How ? Graham The same way turning on speaker compensation within the Sony C222ES and C2000ES do....when put through the DAC as PCM, they loose the ambience that otherwise is on the recording...it is clearly noticeable on a recording with true hall ambience. This isn't theory...it is reality and widely acknowledged (note that I am *not* saying every machine that uses PCM to decode SACD does this...only that these specific ones do). |
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Harry Lavo wrote: "Eeyore" wrote Harry Lavo wrote: "Arny Krueger" wrote Harry, isn't it true that you said that the Pioneer universal player was capable of showing the benefits of the SACD format? Absolutely not. You obviously are letting your opinion of me get in the way of what I've said....at least three times on usenet, including RAO. SACD is the weakest format played by the 578a. It's conversion to PCM destroys the ambience readily available on native DSD decoding players How ? Graham The same way turning on speaker compensation within the Sony C222ES and C2000ES do....when put through the DAC as PCM, they loose the ambience that otherwise is on the recording...it is clearly noticeable on a recording with true hall ambience. This isn't theory...it is reality and widely acknowledged (note that I am *not* saying every machine that uses PCM to decode SACD does this...only that these specific ones do). So why isn't it more widely acknowledged ? Where does this 'ambience ' go ? Graham |
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Eeyore wrote: Harry Lavo wrote: "Eeyore" wrote Harry Lavo wrote: "Arny Krueger" wrote Harry, isn't it true that you said that the Pioneer universal player was capable of showing the benefits of the SACD format? Absolutely not. You obviously are letting your opinion of me get in the way of what I've said....at least three times on usenet, including RAO. SACD is the weakest format played by the 578a. It's conversion to PCM destroys the ambience readily available on native DSD decoding players How ? Graham The same way turning on speaker compensation within the Sony C222ES and C2000ES do....when put through the DAC as PCM, they loose the ambience that otherwise is on the recording...it is clearly noticeable on a recording with true hall ambience. This isn't theory...it is reality and widely acknowledged (note that I am *not* saying every machine that uses PCM to decode SACD does this...only that these specific ones do). So why isn't it more widely acknowledged ? Where does this 'ambience ' go ? Silicon heaven, where all the calculators go. Stephen |
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"Eeyore" wrote in message ... Harry Lavo wrote: "Eeyore" wrote Harry Lavo wrote: "Arny Krueger" wrote Harry, isn't it true that you said that the Pioneer universal player was capable of showing the benefits of the SACD format? Absolutely not. You obviously are letting your opinion of me get in the way of what I've said....at least three times on usenet, including RAO. SACD is the weakest format played by the 578a. It's conversion to PCM destroys the ambience readily available on native DSD decoding players How ? Graham The same way turning on speaker compensation within the Sony C222ES and C2000ES do....when put through the DAC as PCM, they loose the ambience that otherwise is on the recording...it is clearly noticeable on a recording with true hall ambience. This isn't theory...it is reality and widely acknowledged (note that I am *not* saying every machine that uses PCM to decode SACD does this...only that these specific ones do). So why isn't it more widely acknowledged ? It is. Often mentioned by reviewers, ordinary users on the web. Where does this 'ambience ' go ? Where did Cat Stevens go? Graham |
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Harry Lavo wrote: Where did Cat Stevens go? Islamic. Graham |
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wrote in message oups.com... Arny Krueger wrote: wrote in message ups.com... Arny Krueger wrote: wrote in message oups.com... Of course we could remind our new friend Graham here how his pal Arny really buys turntables. You know, how he e-mailed me under another name to ask my what I recommended, and when I told him to buy a Rega Planar 3, or a Planar 2 with an RB250 arm at the very least, True, but out of budget. he went on e-bay and purchased one of the oldest and cheapest P2s he could find, with the crappy, mismatched Mayware arm, True, and within budget. and then tried to tell everyone I didn't know what I was talking about because it didn't sound very good. Another one of Marc's paranoid delusions. Marc again tries to fight substance with fire In other words, the whole incident backfired on you, and you looked like an idiot. That's why you ran away from RAO with your tail between your legs, Marc. Why did it take so long for you to come back? But then again, that's the essence of the Marc and Arny Story. I cut, Marc runs. Oh, we're trotting out the "Marc only appears here sporadically, so his views are suspect" pablum, eh? That has to be the stupidest argument you ever conceived, because all it ever really illustrates is how empty and meaningless you life is, and that you have to spend it arguing with strangers on the Internet. Marc, you made that argument up yourself, so of course its the stupidest argument ever conceived. Stop telling yourself these silly lies and grow up! |
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"Harry Lavo" wrote in message . .. "Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... "Harry Lavo" wrote in message . .. Or when he bought the lowest priced SACD player available Harry, isn't it true that you said that the Pioneer universal player was capable of showing the benefits of the SACD format? Absolutely not. You obviously are letting your opinion of me get in the way of what I've said....at least three times on usenet, including RAO. SACD is the weakest format played by the 578a. It's conversion to PCM destroys the ambience readily available on native DSD decoding players. Here Harry shows his ignorance of technology by claiming that DSD somehow reproduces audio better than PCM with the same or better bandwidth and dynamic range. BTW, DVD-A's 24/192 and 24/96 coding easily whips SACD's butt on both counts, since SACD trashes dynamic range above 20 KHz. If I wanted to split hairs, I could say that 24/48 has more dynamic range than SACD because of its extension to 24 KHz. |
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"Harry Lavo" wrote in message ... The same way turning on speaker compensation within the Sony C222ES and C2000ES do....when put through the DAC as PCM, they loose the ambience that otherwise is on the recording...it is clearly noticeable on a recording with true hall ambience. Urban myth, and confusion of added processing with the inherent properties of PCM and SACD. This isn't theory...it is reality and widely acknowledged No doubt based on sighted evaluations... (note that I am *not* saying every machine that uses PCM to decode SACD does this...only that these specific ones do). Note Harry running and hiding. |
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"Harry Lavo" wrote in message . .. "Eeyore" wrote in message ... Harry Lavo wrote: "Eeyore" wrote Harry Lavo wrote: "Arny Krueger" wrote Harry, isn't it true that you said that the Pioneer universal player was capable of showing the benefits of the SACD format? Absolutely not. You obviously are letting your opinion of me get in the way of what I've said....at least three times on usenet, including RAO. SACD is the weakest format played by the 578a. It's conversion to PCM destroys the ambience readily available on native DSD decoding players How ? Graham The same way turning on speaker compensation within the Sony C222ES and C2000ES do....when put through the DAC as PCM, they loose the ambience that otherwise is on the recording...it is clearly noticeable on a recording with true hall ambience. This isn't theory...it is reality and widely acknowledged (note that I am *not* saying every machine that uses PCM to decode SACD does this...only that these specific ones do). So why isn't it more widely acknowledged ? It is. Often mentioned by reviewers, ordinary users on the web. Where does this 'ambience ' go ? Where did Cat Stevens go? A mosque. Now answer the question! |
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"Arny Krueger" wrote in message . .. "Harry Lavo" wrote in message ... The same way turning on speaker compensation within the Sony C222ES and C2000ES do....when put through the DAC as PCM, they loose the ambience that otherwise is on the recording...it is clearly noticeable on a recording with true hall ambience. Urban myth, and confusion of added processing with the inherent properties of PCM and SACD. This isn't theory...it is reality and widely acknowledged No doubt based on sighted evaluations... (note that I am *not* saying every machine that uses PCM to decode SACD does this...only that these specific ones do). Note Harry running and hiding. Once again Arny offers his criticism without any actual experience or experimentation. |
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"Arny Krueger" wrote in message . .. "Harry Lavo" wrote in message ... The same way turning on speaker compensation within the Sony C222ES and C2000ES do....when put through the DAC as PCM, they loose the ambience that otherwise is on the recording...it is clearly noticeable on a recording with true hall ambience. Urban myth, and confusion of added processing with the inherent properties of PCM and SACD. This isn't theory...it is reality and widely acknowledged No doubt based on sighted evaluations... (note that I am *not* saying every machine that uses PCM to decode SACD does this...only that these specific ones do). Note Harry running and hiding. I guess Arny doesn't subscribe to the posts that say that what you choose to measure, not whether or not it can be measured, is the battle. A completly irrelevant answer. |
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Arny Krueger wrote: wrote in message oups.com... Arny Krueger wrote: wrote in message ups.com... Arny Krueger wrote: wrote in message oups.com... Of course we could remind our new friend Graham here how his pal Arny really buys turntables. You know, how he e-mailed me under another name to ask my what I recommended, and when I told him to buy a Rega Planar 3, or a Planar 2 with an RB250 arm at the very least, True, but out of budget. he went on e-bay and purchased one of the oldest and cheapest P2s he could find, with the crappy, mismatched Mayware arm, True, and within budget. and then tried to tell everyone I didn't know what I was talking about because it didn't sound very good. Another one of Marc's paranoid delusions. Marc again tries to fight substance with fire In other words, the whole incident backfired on you, and you looked like an idiot. That's why you ran away from RAO with your tail between your legs, Marc. Why did it take so long for you to come back? But then again, that's the essence of the Marc and Arny Story. I cut, Marc runs. Oh, we're trotting out the "Marc only appears here sporadically, so his views are suspect" pablum, eh? That has to be the stupidest argument you ever conceived, because all it ever really illustrates is how empty and meaningless you life is, and that you have to spend it arguing with strangers on the Internet. Marc, you made that argument up yourself, so of course its the stupidest argument ever conceived. Stop telling yourself these silly lies and grow up! That makes absolutely no sense. Show how I came up with the argument and not you. Or, better yet, don't show it. Let the exchange stand as it is. You've made a career out of wasting your life on the Internet, by embarrassing yourself and your family, by revealing yourself to be utterly insane, and your best defense is to keep plugging along, pretending you're not as dumb as you really are. I guess it's working, because you're not dead yet. You have that going for you. Boon |
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"Harry Lavo" wrote in message ... "Arny Krueger" wrote in message . .. "Harry Lavo" wrote in message ... The same way turning on speaker compensation within the Sony C222ES and C2000ES do....when put through the DAC as PCM, they loose the ambience that otherwise is on the recording...it is clearly noticeable on a recording with true hall ambience. Urban myth, and confusion of added processing with the inherent properties of PCM and SACD. This isn't theory...it is reality and widely acknowledged No doubt based on sighted evaluations... (note that I am *not* saying every machine that uses PCM to decode SACD does this...only that these specific ones do). Note Harry running and hiding. Once again Arny offers his criticism without any actual experience or experimentation. Yet another religious act of denial of reality noted. |
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