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Why shouldn't someone buy Bose?
"Farrell8882" wrote in message
news:Ac%9c.30674$K91.88721@attbi_s02... A friend of mine asked me "Why _not_ Bose?" and I really don't have an answer for her. I know audiophiles routinely revile the brand, but that's not an excuse I'm comfortable sharing. It's not one I can either defend or expound on. I recall reading a very good point-by-point analysis here (or somewhere people here would be familiar with) that takes apart Bose (both the speaker and the myth), exposing what a really shoddy piece of workmanship a Bose speaker is. It's technical, but not incomprehensible. I only paid partial attention because I'd never buy anything by Bose, so I had no reason to read any more deeply. I've seen it a couple of times in the last few years, including sometime this winter. Does anyone know what I'm talking about? This is probably what you read: http://www.intellexual.net/bose.html Stephen |
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Why shouldn't someone buy Bose?
On Mon, 29 Mar 2004 19:57:20 +0000, Farrell8882 wrote:
A friend of mine asked me "Why _not_ Bose?" and I really don't have an answer for her. I know audiophiles routinely revile the brand, but that's not an excuse I'm comfortable sharing. It's not one I can either defend or expound on. I recall reading a very good point-by-point analysis here (or somewhere people here would be familiar with) that takes apart Bose (both the speaker and the myth), exposing what a really shoddy piece of workmanship a Bose speaker is. It's technical, but not incomprehensible. I only paid partial attention because I'd never buy anything by Bose, so I had no reason to read any more deeply. I've seen it a couple of times in the last few years, including sometime this winter. Does anyone know what I'm talking about? __________________________________________________ ________ Bose has excelled at doing frequency response manipulation based on some intense study. There are some frequencies that the Female gender is slightly more sensitive to..Dr. Bose has used these studies to manipulate a number of areas in the audio spectrum to create rather cozy and pleasant sounding devices. Back, somewhere in the early '70s I think Admiral radio had used a fairly elaborate "ducted" low frequency system to present a very impressive bass from a tabletop radio. A friend of mine that owned an office supply company had one in the large open space that most Office supply houses have...it was impressive in the low end. I was very impressed...having lived around some Altec-Lansing A7 theatre systems. This was a ducted system that had been used World Wide with variations. I always assumed it was a kind of "public domain" and could be used by anyone. However, Dr. Bose was able to "modify" this ducted system and get a patent in the U.S. Many have wondered how this was accomplished. So, to shorten all this, by manipulating the mids and highs and implementing the lower-frequency ducted system he has been able to turn out speakers/radios, etc, that, on initial hearing...they sound very pleasant, etc. However, if your hearing is a bit critical you will soon discover that something is missing in this type of manipulation..things are just not all there. However, some people get used to all this..and swear by it! Such is life! I'm sure there is more to this story that this...however, this is as I have observed through the years. So, if one listens around in a serious manner and decides the Bose is best, over a period of time, then by all means go ahead buy it..keeping in mine that you might well want to trade to something else with a year! Leonard... |
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Why shouldn't someone buy Bose?
I've owned a lot of audio gear in my 20 year "affliction". I am not a
reviewer by any means but I seem to have a revolving door in my listening room. The one set of speakers that I just could not live with were a pair of Bose 601's in the late 80's. Thumpy artifical bass. Hooty mids. Recessed, dead highs. No matter what I paired it with...same story. Did the room position thing...same story. Tried to break em in with pink noise...same story. My brother had a pair of 301's a few years back. He reluctantly borrowed them to me so I could feed my habit. Same story but worse (these listed at about $300/pr). I think that was last gear I bought at Crutchfield. TC "Farrell8882" wrote in message news:Ac%9c.30674$K91.88721@attbi_s02... A friend of mine asked me "Why _not_ Bose?" and I really don't have an answer for her. I know audiophiles routinely revile the brand, but that's not an excuse I'm comfortable sharing. It's not one I can either defend or expound on. I recall reading a very good point-by-point analysis here (or somewhere people here would be familiar with) that takes apart Bose (both the speaker and the myth), exposing what a really shoddy piece of workmanship a Bose speaker is. It's technical, but not incomprehensible. I only paid partial attention because I'd never buy anything by Bose, so I had no reason to read any more deeply. I've seen it a couple of times in the last few years, including sometime this winter. Does anyone know what I'm talking about? |
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Why shouldn't someone buy Bose?
I worked in hi-fi retail for a couple years in the early 1980's.
People would come in and ask for Bose by name far more than any other brand name. After a while you got tired of trying to educate the great unwashed, and you just took their cash. Y'know what? I didn't lose any sleep over it. The question isn't "why shouldn't someone buy Bose?" because if someone's gotten that far they probably will be perfectly happy with Bose. They *should* buy Bose. The question should be "why would someone buy Bose...or anything, for that matter...without first auditioning & evaluating numerous other products at the same pricepoint?" And the answer would be: "Advertising budget" |
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Why shouldn't someone buy Bose?
Mark Howell wrote:
On Mon, 29 Mar 2004 19:57:20 GMT, (Farrell8882) wrote: A friend of mine asked me "Why _not_ Bose?" and I really don't have an answer for her. I know audiophiles routinely revile the brand, but that's not an excuse I'm comfortable sharing. It's not one I can either defend or expound on. Here's one reason. The P.O.S. Bose amplifiers in the Delco/Bose stereo in my Cadillac have failed repeatedly, and one of them actually caught fire -- the stench was unbelievable although actual damage was minimal. So as far as I'm concerned, Bose literally stinks! Mark Howell Well that surely sucks. OTOH I've performed extensive and detailed evaluation of a couple hundred production OEM sound systems and nearly 500 when you count prototypes and concepts and by and large Bose delivers the best on-road sound.Their best car systems are better than 80-90% of the home systems I've listened to...... perhaps 300 over the past quarter century..... in pure sound quality terms. Of course, it is true that I've seen no more than a couple really good Bose home systems. |
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Why shouldn't someone buy Bose?
Farrell8882 wrote:
A friend of mine asked me "Why _not_ Bose?" and I really don't have an answer for her. I know audiophiles routinely revile the brand, but that's not an excuse I'm comfortable sharing. It's not one I can either defend or expound on. The number one problem with Bose is not their sound, which is passable, but that the exact same thing can be had via Cambridge Soundworks for a couple of hundred dollars. Cambridge soundworks of course changes the mounts and wiring terminals and color just enough so as to pass the minimum amount of changes to not infringe on their patent, but it's essentially the same thing. Why pay 400% markup over the same thing without the label? For $800-$1000, she can get a full setup that will sound several times better. Tannoy and KEF, for instnace, make very good minisystems, as does Energy. Real rubber surrounds on the speakers instead of foam. Connectors that can be used with any receiver. Screws instead of glue to hold it together. $10 speakers(their cost) versus $1-2 ones BOSE uses. No, these aren't high-end soundsystems, but they are a step up. |
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Why shouldn't someone buy Bose?
(Nousaine) wrote in message news:Kk5ac.130243$Cb.1466684@attbi_s51...
Mark Howell wrote: On Mon, 29 Mar 2004 19:57:20 GMT, (Farrell8882) wrote: A friend of mine asked me "Why _not_ Bose?" and I really don't have an answer for her. I know audiophiles routinely revile the brand, but that's not an excuse I'm comfortable sharing. It's not one I can either defend or expound on. Here's one reason. The P.O.S. Bose amplifiers in the Delco/Bose stereo in my Cadillac have failed repeatedly, and one of them actually caught fire -- the stench was unbelievable although actual damage was minimal. So as far as I'm concerned, Bose literally stinks! Mark Howell Well that surely sucks. OTOH I've performed extensive and detailed evaluation of a couple hundred production OEM sound systems and nearly 500 when you count prototypes and concepts and by and large Bose delivers the best on-road sound.Their best car systems are better than 80-90% of the home systems I've listened to...... perhaps 300 over the past quarter century..... in pure sound quality terms. Of course, it is true that I've seen no more than a couple really good Bose home systems. You obviously haven't listened to the Bloze system in my C4 Corvette or my C5 Corvette. Both are without a doubt the crappiest sounding systems I have ever heard. The Chrysler Infinity system in my wifes '91 Voyager is a better sounding system than the one in my 2-1/2 year old Corvette. The only "improvement" in the C5 vs. the C4 is the fact that it's easier to replace it in stages if you're inclined to do so. EBS |
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