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Packing a Heathkit Amplifier?
Do you think wrapping a W7-A amplifier (el34 P-P, large transformers/ metal/al case) in two layers of bubble wrap and putting it in a single layer cardboard box is sufficient? I am too close to this issue to provide a unbiased opinion. thanks in advance KC |
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Do you think wrapping a W7-A amplifier (el34 P-P, large transformers/ metal/al case) in two layers of bubble wrap and putting it in a single layer cardboard box is sufficient? ** No - bubble wrap is not suitable for heavy objects. The bubbles burst very easily. Most manufacturers all use fitted Styrofoam mouldings for impact protection of heavy devices. Use pieces Styrofoam sheet all around an amp, to at least 2 inches thick. Leave tubes fitted in sockets but sleeve all the large ones in corrugated cardboard ( or bubble wrap) if there is any chance of bumping into each other, a tranny or simply falling out. .......... Phil |
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Jon Yaeger wrote: in article , at wrote on 10/3/05 9:00 AM: Do you think wrapping a W7-A amplifier (el34 P-P, large transformers/ metal/al case) in two layers of bubble wrap and putting it in a single layer cardboard box is sufficient? I am too close to this issue to provide a unbiased opinion. thanks in advance KC Pack all gear so that it can withstand withstand a four foot drop. The "gold standard" for shipping is to double-box items, especially heavy ones. Many amplifiers are unbalanced because of the weight and position of the trannies. It's twice the hassle, but if you ever get into a freight claim situation, it is pretty difficult for a carrier to argue that you didn't pack it well. Err on the side of caution. Jon The only thing that has worked for me is a layer of polystyrene foam board cut to neatly and tightly fit all around an amp with at least 50mm thickness beyond any protruding bind posts, switches etc, and then two layers of heavy duty ribbed cardboard boxing, then a pile og adhesive tape around everything. If the weight is above 25 kgs, then even thicker styrene should be used. I get my polystyrene from arond the back of the grocer here where there are always plenty of styrene crates I can cut to size with a box cutter to make up the layers need for the protection. Carboard crates can also be altered to make up a size required. Tubes should be removed from their sockets and packed separately with bubble wrap all around and placed tightly packed inside the cage over the tubes if there is one, or packed with the amp in a separate plywood box so if the amp is dropped the amp weight cannot crush the pack of precious tubes. Patrick Turner. |
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No, I'm packing a Colt .380 Pocketlite. I've found that
it's difficult to get the bad guys to stand still long enough for me to whack 'em with a Twin Reverb. Lord Valve Boo! |
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... Do you think wrapping a W7-A amplifier (el34 P-P, large transformers/ metal/al case) in two layers of bubble wrap and putting it in a single layer cardboard box is sufficient? I am too close to this issue to provide a unbiased opinion. thanks in advance KC Would I be off-base to conjecture that you purchased an amp from eBay or ? and it arrived damaged? You are in somewhat of a dispute abut the amp not being packed properly? It may benefit us if you spelled out the details with no name, brand, etc. so we may learn from your experience. west |
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In article ,
wrote: Do you think wrapping a W7-A amplifier (el34 P-P, large transformers/ metal/al case) in two layers of bubble wrap and putting it in a single layer cardboard box is sufficient? I am too close to this issue to provide a unbiased opinion. If the box mentioned were put inside a larger box with sheet foam rubber on all sides, maybe. Don't use pellets, with vibration something heavy will move to the bottom. Remember that six foot drops are considered normal handling by UPS (what I was told by a UPS representative when I requested compensation for shipping damage). Mike Squires -- Mike Squires (mikes at cs.indiana.edu) 317 233 9456 (w) 812 333 6564 (h) mikes at siralan.org 546 N Park Ridge Rd., Bloomington, IN 47408 |
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The original poster sent me this email because he said he was having
difficulty posting on this NG. He gave permission to share his message (see below). west ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 2:19 AM Subject: Packing a Heathkit Amplifier? Hi- You extrapolated correctly, and of course it takes no time to check the most recent and only auction on ebay for a W7-A amplifier with a no return policy. I asked the question because it seems like common sense to me to pack more appropriately and the seller insists he sells/ships many "heathkits", has a 3500 rating, and no negative feedback in the last 6 months. Of course he believes this is good packing. I collect heaths, and it has always struck me that the flimsy metal chassis, with "heavy"/too heavy transformers for it, are prone to destruction. In this case, the hood was bent, the stubs all splayed out, the back of it crumpled at the angles, and of course the chassis has a soft bend (1/8") next to the output transformer. The twist (of the knife) is that he insured the item for $150/ of the $172 it cost me. And that he insists that I make the claim with UPS, when truthfully I don't believe they are at fault - superficial changes to the box, and poor packing. He seems insistent. I intend to forward (to him) the groups recommendations for packing (so it doesn't look like I'm the only Loon) and leave appropriate feedback for the position I'm in. I will probably start to email sellers ahead of time about how they intend to ship items. (solid foam/double box/ or peanut suspension at least 3-4 inches for a rigid centered body) The follow up article/questions are the best ways to re-bend a heathkit chassis. I'll probably dismount the transformers, and re-bend with wooden blocks. Giles PS, I was having problems posting, so I sent this to you/ feel free to share this if you like. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version |
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Not even close. I once packed two bubble wrapped transformers in the same
box as Scott amplifier and separated with 2 layers of triple wall cardboard plus 2 inches of heavy rug foam. The transformers broke through and damaged the amplifier case. wrote in message ... Do you think wrapping a W7-A amplifier (el34 P-P, large transformers/ metal/al case) in two layers of bubble wrap and putting it in a single layer cardboard box is sufficient? I am too close to this issue to provide a unbiased opinion. thanks in advance KC |
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"Jon Yaeger" wrote:
One problem with eBay is that people are afraid of retaliatory negative FB, so they won't tell the truth. I dinged two bad sellers and got dinged in return. Oh well. Jon: One solution for this is to have separate eBay buying and selling IDs. It's not perfect, but at least you won't pick up any retaliatory negatives against your selling ID from a bad seller. Gerry |
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