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A friend of mine happened to get a pair of these:
http://www.aadsound.com/products/images/cn_b_1_219.jpg, specifically the floorstanding units toward the right of the photo. IMHO, these speakers are examples of the High End gone awry, at its worst. The frequency response seems to have been contoured to serve as a hearing aid for hearing impaired individuals in their latter years, who have disposable income for this sort of folly. The construction quality is remarkable, which is what lead my friend to go for them. The lead lined cabinets are the most inert I've personally sampled. It just shows that bad design decisions can always overcome quality construction AAD remarks they are not imported into the U.S., perhaps because the sound is tailored to Far East preferences. |
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Robert Morein wrote: A friend of mine happened to get a pair of these: http://www.aadsound.com/products/images/cn_b_1_219.jpg, specifically the floorstanding units toward the right of the photo. IMHO, these speakers are examples of the High End gone awry, at its worst. The frequency response seems to have been contoured to serve as a hearing aid for hearing impaired individuals in their latter years, who have disposable income for this sort of folly. The construction quality is remarkable, which is what lead my friend to go for them. The lead lined cabinets are the most inert I've personally sampled. It just shows that bad design decisions can always overcome quality construction AAD remarks they are not imported into the U.S., perhaps because the sound is tailored to Far East preferences. So who makes them? Why are you concerned about them? With all of the drivers on the front of the box, I would not be interested enough to even audition them. Obviously the product of clueless furniture makers. Gary Eickmeier |
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"Gary Eickmeier" wrote in message . .. Robert Morein wrote: A friend of mine happened to get a pair of these: http://www.aadsound.com/products/images/cn_b_1_219.jpg, specifically the floorstanding units toward the right of the photo. IMHO, these speakers are examples of the High End gone awry, at its worst. The frequency response seems to have been contoured to serve as a hearing aid for hearing impaired individuals in their latter years, who have disposable income for this sort of folly. The construction quality is remarkable, which is what lead my friend to go for them. The lead lined cabinets are the most inert I've personally sampled. It just shows that bad design decisions can always overcome quality construction AAD remarks they are not imported into the U.S., perhaps because the sound is tailored to Far East preferences. So who makes them? Why are you concerned about them? With all of the drivers on the front of the box, I would not be interested enough to even audition them. Obviously the product of clueless furniture makers. Gary Eickmeier Three drivers, excessive? Phil Jones, designer, a mere furniture maker? I think not. Something more diabolical is at work here. |
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Robert Morein wrote: Three drivers, excessive? .... all on the front of the box. Phil Jones, designer, a mere furniture maker? I think not. Something more diabolical is at work here. Nothing more nor less than just another direct-firing loudspeaker. It is based on 1950s concepts of how a speaker should be made. But this wouldn't be the forum to get into that, with all of the ankle biters that populate this group. Gary Eickmeier |
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"Gary Eickmeier" wrote in message . .. So who makes them? Why are you concerned about them? With all of the drivers on the front of the box, I would not be interested enough to even audition them. Obviously the product of clueless furniture makers. Simple Gary, just turn the box around backwards, and they will be at the rear, where you like them. |
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On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 14:40:56 -0500, "Robert Morein"
wrote: "Gary Eickmeier" wrote in message ... Robert Morein wrote: A friend of mine happened to get a pair of these: http://www.aadsound.com/products/images/cn_b_1_219.jpg, specifically the floorstanding units toward the right of the photo. IMHO, these speakers are examples of the High End gone awry, at its worst. The frequency response seems to have been contoured to serve as a hearing aid for hearing impaired individuals in their latter years, who have disposable income for this sort of folly. The construction quality is remarkable, which is what lead my friend to go for them. The lead lined cabinets are the most inert I've personally sampled. It just shows that bad design decisions can always overcome quality construction AAD remarks they are not imported into the U.S., perhaps because the sound is tailored to Far East preferences. So who makes them? Why are you concerned about them? With all of the drivers on the front of the box, I would not be interested enough to even audition them. Obviously the product of clueless furniture makers. Gary Eickmeier Three drivers, excessive? Phil Jones, designer, a mere furniture maker? I think not. Something more diabolical is at work here. You might ask him how many drivers HIS speakers have. |
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"Gary Eickmeier" wrote in message ... Robert Morein wrote: Three drivers, excessive? ... all on the front of the box. I have to try to infer what you prefer. Side-mounted woofer, allowing a narrow front baffle, for reduced cabinet diffraction effects? I am aware of the theoretical advantages, but many very fine speakers have been made with front mounted drivers. Sometimes felt is used to reduce cabinet diffraction. The voicing problem I notice with these speakers is, I think, the result of voicing decisions. The tweeter is surrounded by a moderately large horn. This is known to louse up phase coherence, causing a loss of vocal intelligibility I associate with Klipsch. |
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"Robert Morein" wrote in message ... A friend of mine happened to get a pair of these: http://www.aadsound.com/products/images/cn_b_1_219.jpg, specifically the floorstanding units toward the right of the photo. IMHO, these speakers are examples of the High End gone awry, at its worst. The frequency response seems to have been contoured to serve as a hearing aid for hearing impaired individuals in their latter years, who have disposable income for this sort of folly. The construction quality is remarkable, which is what lead my friend to go for them. The lead lined cabinets are the most inert I've personally sampled. It just shows that bad design decisions can always overcome quality construction AAD remarks they are not imported into the U.S., perhaps because the sound is tailored to Far East preferences. Hi Rob! I find that really hard to believe. I used to own a pair of Platinum Audio monitors designed by the very same Phil Jones and they were very competent within their performance envelope. And at least in my room they had quite remarkable low end for such small speakers. I think that enterprise went bust due to some bungled takeover and not the quality of the product. IIRC the speakers were very room dependent and required precise placement or else they sounded bright. They were also quite expensive considering their limitations at around $2.5K per pair and I only bought them used at half the price. I just cannot imagine that Phil would have so completely "lost it". Cheers, Margaret |
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"Gary Eickmeier" wrote in message . .. So who makes them? Why are you concerned about them? With all of the drivers on the front of the box, I would not be interested enough to even audition them. Obviously the product of clueless furniture makers. Gary Eickmeier Another dumb bose-ass! Cheers, Margaret |
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Margaret von B. wrote: Hi Rob! I find that really hard to believe. I used to own a pair of Platinum Audio monitors designed by the very same Phil Jones and they were very competent within their performance envelope. And at least in my room they had quite remarkable low end for such small speakers. I think that enterprise went bust due to some bungled takeover and not the quality of the product. IIRC the speakers were very room dependent and required precise placement or else they sounded bright. They were also quite expensive considering their limitations at around $2.5K per pair and I only bought them used at half the price. I just cannot imagine that Phil would have so completely "lost it". Another dumb Platinum ass! Gary Eickmeier |
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"Margaret von B." wrote in message ... "Robert Morein" wrote in message ... A friend of mine happened to get a pair of these: http://www.aadsound.com/products/images/cn_b_1_219.jpg, specifically the floorstanding units toward the right of the photo. IMHO, these speakers are examples of the High End gone awry, at its worst. The frequency response seems to have been contoured to serve as a hearing aid for hearing impaired individuals in their latter years, who have disposable income for this sort of folly. The construction quality is remarkable, which is what lead my friend to go for them. The lead lined cabinets are the most inert I've personally sampled. It just shows that bad design decisions can always overcome quality construction AAD remarks they are not imported into the U.S., perhaps because the sound is tailored to Far East preferences. Hi Rob! I find that really hard to believe. I used to own a pair of Platinum Audio monitors designed by the very same Phil Jones and they were very competent within their performance envelope. And at least in my room they had quite remarkable low end for such small speakers. I think that enterprise went bust due to some bungled takeover and not the quality of the product. IIRC the speakers were very room dependent and required precise placement or else they sounded bright. They were also quite expensive considering their limitations at around $2.5K per pair and I only bought them used at half the price. I just cannot imagine that Phil would have so completely "lost it". Cheers, Margaret In fairness to Phil Jones, this line is not imported into the U.S. My friend must have obtained them as a part of a very small special lot. I read in some publication, somewhere, that some speakers for the Far East market are voiced specificall for certain instruments, among them the sitar, and would sound unbalanced to the Western ear. So I draw no conclusions about Phil Jones's talent, or the sound of the Platinums. At the NY Hifi exchange, they used to have a dissected Platinum driver on display, and it was most impressive. |
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"Gary Eickmeier" wrote in message ... Margaret von B. wrote: Hi Rob! I find that really hard to believe. I used to own a pair of Platinum Audio monitors designed by the very same Phil Jones and they were very competent within their performance envelope. And at least in my room they had quite remarkable low end for such small speakers. I think that enterprise went bust due to some bungled takeover and not the quality of the product. IIRC the speakers were very room dependent and required precise placement or else they sounded bright. They were also quite expensive considering their limitations at around $2.5K per pair and I only bought them used at half the price. I just cannot imagine that Phil would have so completely "lost it". Another dumb Platinum ass! Gary, glad to see you're getting into the swing of things. Your next step is to choose your implacable opponent, whose ego you will attempt to demolish for the next few years. Choose wisely. Currently, some of the most contentious individuals are already engaged, but I think Margaret is free. |
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Gary Eickmeier said:
Another dumb Platinum ass! You adapted fast! Art thou a borg, perchance? ;-) -- "Audio as a serious hobby is going down the tubes." - Howard Ferstler, 25/4/2005 |
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Sander deWaal said to Bosemeier: You adapted fast! Art thou a borg, perchance? ;-) Bosey is still in training for full 'borgdom. He is a veteran Kroopologist, though. Not to mention a puritanical, bible-thumping fascist. .. .. |
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"Robert Morein" wrote in message ... Gary, glad to see you're getting into the swing of things. Your next step is to choose your implacable opponent, whose ego you will attempt to demolish for the next few years. Choose wisely. Currently, some of the most contentious individuals are already engaged, but I think Margaret is free. I tried, but she wouldn't have me. |
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"Gary Eickmeier" wrote in message ... Margaret von B. wrote: Hi Rob! I find that really hard to believe. I used to own a pair of Platinum Audio monitors designed by the very same Phil Jones and they were very competent within their performance envelope. And at least in my room they had quite remarkable low end for such small speakers. I think that enterprise went bust due to some bungled takeover and not the quality of the product. IIRC the speakers were very room dependent and required precise placement or else they sounded bright. They were also quite expensive considering their limitations at around $2.5K per pair and I only bought them used at half the price. I just cannot imagine that Phil would have so completely "lost it". Another dumb Platinum ass! Gary Eickmeier I see. What did you not like about the sound of the Platinum monitors? What amp did you drive then with? Cheers, Margaret |
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Robert Morein wrote: "Gary Eickmeier" wrote in message ... Another dumb Platinum ass! Gary, glad to see you're getting into the swing of things. Your next step is to choose your implacable opponent, whose ego you will attempt to demolish for the next few years. Choose wisely. Currently, some of the most contentious individuals are already engaged, but I think Margaret is free. I quote, "Another dumb bose-ass! Cheers, Margaret" I have no idea who she is, and don't care. Her comment to me communicates nothing but animosity, the basic spirit of this group. Or at least some of the bad apples. I just wanted to illustrate the intelligence level of her comment with equal time. Sort of a tit for tat. I don't intend to stay, in any case. Gary Eickmeier |
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"Gary Eickmeier" wrote in message ... Robert Morein wrote: "Gary Eickmeier" wrote in message ... Another dumb Platinum ass! Gary, glad to see you're getting into the swing of things. Your next step is to choose your implacable opponent, whose ego you will attempt to demolish for the next few years. Choose wisely. Currently, some of the most contentious individuals are already engaged, but I think Margaret is free. I quote, "Another dumb bose-ass! Cheers, Margaret" I have no idea who she is, and don't care. Her comment to me communicates nothing but animosity, the basic spirit of this group. Or at least some of the bad apples. I just wanted to illustrate the intelligence level of her comment with equal time. Sort of a tit for tat. I don't intend to stay, in any case. Gary Eickmeier Gary, dear, sounds like you need to go and grow some more penis before you come back. But it is a well known fact that the guys with 901's all have small drivers. :-) Cheers, Margaret |
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"Margaret von B." wrote in message ... Gary, dear, sounds like you need to go and grow some more penis before you come back. But it is a well known fact that the guys with 901's all have small drivers. :-) And, at least 89% of the time, pointed in the wrong direction, to the rear! |
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"Clyde Slick" wrote: "Margaret von B." wrote in message ... Gary, dear, sounds like you need to go and grow some more penis before you come back. But it is a well known fact that the guys with 901's all have small drivers. :-) And, at least 89% of the time, pointed in the wrong direction, to the rear! And needing an "equalizer." |
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On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 03:34:44 GMT, Jenn
wrote: In article , "Clyde Slick" wrote: "Margaret von B." wrote in message ... Gary, dear, sounds like you need to go and grow some more penis before you come back. But it is a well known fact that the guys with 901's all have small drivers. :-) And, at least 89% of the time, pointed in the wrong direction, to the rear! And needing an "equalizer." And a stand to prop it up. |
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"dave weil" wrote in message ... On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 03:34:44 GMT, Jenn wrote: In article , "Clyde Slick" wrote: "Margaret von B." wrote in message ... Gary, dear, sounds like you need to go and grow some more penis before you come back. But it is a well known fact that the guys with 901's all have small drivers. :-) And, at least 89% of the time, pointed in the wrong direction, to the rear! And needing an "equalizer." For bottom end boost. And a stand to prop it up. |
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"Clyde Slick" said:
Gary, dear, sounds like you need to go and grow some more penis before you come back. But it is a well known fact that the guys with 901's all have small drivers. :-) And, at least 89% of the time, pointed in the wrong direction, to the rear! ROTFLMAO!!! Really!!! -- "Audio as a serious hobby is going down the tubes." - Howard Ferstler, 25/4/2005 |
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Margaret von B. wrote: "Gary Eickmeier" wrote in message ... Robert Morein wrote: "Gary Eickmeier" wrote in message ... Another dumb Platinum ass! Gary, glad to see you're getting into the swing of things. Your next step is to choose your implacable opponent, whose ego you will attempt to demolish for the next few years. Choose wisely. Currently, some of the most contentious individuals are already engaged, but I think Margaret is free. I quote, "Another dumb bose-ass! Cheers, Margaret" I have no idea who she is, and don't care. Her comment to me communicates nothing but animosity, the basic spirit of this group. Or at least some of the bad apples. I just wanted to illustrate the intelligence level of her comment with equal time. Sort of a tit for tat. I don't intend to stay, in any case. Gary Eickmeier Gary, dear, sounds like you need to go and grow some more penis before you come back. But it is a well known fact that the guys with 901's all have small drivers. :-) Cheers, Margaret Marge clearly likes her sex objects surrounded by very large magnets and driven by high current amplifiers. ScottW |
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"dave weil" wrote in message ... On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 03:34:44 GMT, Jenn wrote: In article , "Clyde Slick" wrote: "Margaret von B." wrote in message ... Gary, dear, sounds like you need to go and grow some more penis before you come back. But it is a well known fact that the guys with 901's all have small drivers. :-) And, at least 89% of the time, pointed in the wrong direction, to the rear! And needing an "equalizer." And a stand to prop it up. And hasn't improved its performance since its heyday of 1972. |
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"Sander deWaal" wrote in message ... : "Clyde Slick" said: : : : Gary, dear, sounds like you need to go and grow some more penis before you : come back. But it is a well known fact that the guys with 901's all have : small drivers. :-) : : : And, at least 89% of the time, pointed in the wrong direction, to the rear! : : : ROTFLMAO!!! Really!!! : : -- : : "Audio as a serious hobby is going down the tubes." : - Howard Ferstler, 25/4/2005 at least, it's recreational :-) and opinionated R. |
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On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 00:03:18 GMT, Gary Eickmeier
wrote: I don't intend to stay, in any case. Ah, how many have said that, only to still be here years later when someone else re-visits the NG and says, "I don't believe you people! How shallow is your learning curve!?" :-) |
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"paul packer" wrote in message
On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 00:03:18 GMT, Gary Eickmeier wrote: I don't intend to stay, in any case. Ah, how many have said that, only to still be here years later when someone else re-visits the NG and says, "I don't believe you people! Maybe 8-10 people. More probably think it? How shallow is your learning curve!?" :-) In most parts of the Usenet world things actually change over a period of 3-5 years. This place probably won't change until Middius dies or gets too senile to post. He has long been too senile to make sensible posts or mature posts, but that hasn't stopped him. |
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"Arny Krueger" wrote in message . .. "paul packer" wrote in message [snip] This place probably won't change until Middius dies or gets too senile to post. He has long been too senile to make sensible posts or mature posts, but that hasn't stopped him. Arny, you appear to be a type A with a mesomorphic body build. As such, this predisposes you to coronary heart disease or a stroke. You could actually end up in a situation where you are completely crazy, but unable to type. It is more likely that this group will end up in Middius's kind hands, once you are listening to organ music for the rest of eternity.; |
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In , Robert Morein wrote :
It is more likely that this group will end up in Middius's kind hands, I agree, moreover we have no evidences that Middius is really a human being... IMHO this kind of plague is eternal. ;-) -- "Nobody seemes to have actaully read what i wrote. But what's new around here?" Dave Weil, Sun, 05 Oct 2003 00:57:15 |
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Lionel said:
It is more likely that this group will end up in Middius's kind hands, I agree, moreover we have no evidences that Middius is really a human being... IMHO this kind of plague is eternal. ;-) Middius as "Deus Ex Machina".....I like that thought. :-) -- "Audio as a serious hobby is going down the tubes." - Howard Ferstler, 25/4/2005 |
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In , Sander deWaal wrote :
Lionel said: It is more likely that this group will end up in Middius's kind hands, I agree, moreover we have no evidences that Middius is really a human being... IMHO this kind of plague is eternal. ;-) Middius as "Deus Ex Machina".....I like that thought. :-) I like it too... if I am the scene shifter. -- "Nobody seemes to have actaully read what i wrote. But what's new around here?" Dave Weil, Sun, 05 Oct 2003 00:57:15 |
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Sander deWaal said to Gibberella: Middius as "Deus Ex Machina".....I like that thought. :-) Thank's Mr. Dewdle for, admitting you think like a machine. LOl! ;-) .. .. |
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George Middius said:
Sander deWaal said to Gibberella: Middius as "Deus Ex Machina".....I like that thought. :-) Thank's Mr. Dewdle for, admitting you think like a machine. LOl! ;-) 1001011010010011110110100 010011110000101010101111001 0011011101011010010 ! 0100101 ;-) -- "Audio as a serious hobby is going down the tubes." - Howard Ferstler, 25/4/2005 |
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"Ruud Broens" said:
He, that doesn't happen to be the cellphone nr of Cameron ? A Cameron of 8 megapixels? Oh dear, the detail! ;-) Djaz, R. Da phunk, dude. -- "Audio as a serious hobby is going down the tubes." - Howard Ferstler, 25/4/2005 |
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"Sander deWaal" wrote in message ... : George Middius said: : : : : Sander deWaal said to Gibberella: : : Middius as "Deus Ex Machina".....I like that thought. :-) : : Thank's Mr. Dewdle for, admitting you think like a machine. LOl! ;-) : : : 1001011010010011110110100 : 010011110000101010101111001 : : : 0011011101011010010 ! : : : 0100101 ;-) : : -- : : "Audio as a serious hobby is going down the tubes." : - Howard Ferstler, 25/4/2005 He, that doesn't happen to be the cellphone nr of Cameron ? Djaz, R. |
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"Sander deWaal" wrote in message ... : "Ruud Broens" said: : : He, that doesn't happen to be the cellphone nr : of Cameron ? : : : A Cameron of 8 megapixels? Oh dear, the detail! ;-) : you're right, can get enuf detail here and there :-) : Djaz, : R. : : : Da phunk, dude. : : -- : : "Audio as a serious hobby is going down the tubes." it's like, it's the beginning of some rao-rap, already Rdy |
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