[Rick Ruskin]

I just got a used HD24 yesterday. Both supplied drives mount and
operate fine in Bay # 1 but when in Bay 2 they mount and then
dismount. Afterward, the display says "check jumper setting." I find
nothing in the manual about a different jumper setting for Bay 2. The
only thing mentioned is that all drives should be set for
master/single. Any one know what's going on here?
Rick Ruskin
Lion Dog Music - Seattle WA
http://liondogmusic.com
http://www.myspace.com/rickruskin

[Frank Stearns]

Rick Ruskin writes:

I just got a used HD24 yesterday. Both supplied drives mount and
operate fine in Bay # 1 but when in Bay 2 they mount and then
dismount. Afterward, the display says "check jumper setting." I find
nothing in the manual about a different jumper setting for Bay 2. The
only thing mentioned is that all drives should be set for
master/single. Any one know what's going on here?
Rick Ruskin

Hi Rick -

Might be an incomplete mating of the caddy into the receiver.

Possibly the drive 2 connector has shifted slightly out of alignment - it's hard to
judge by eye, though. The caddy/mating system has been somewhat notorious for not
always getting a perfect, solid connection. You could try loosening the mounting
screws inside the machine, sliding the mating assembly foward a touch, then
retightening. (Beware cheap screws; use a correct screwdriver.) Could also be that
the front panel frame is off just enough to prevent a full seating on bay 2.

For many this has been intermittent based on several tolerances being slightly off.
Many have solved this by putting small washers on the screws that tie the connector
to the caddy. The washers go between the connector and frame such that the caddy
connector is lifted out just a little more (single washer thickness is usually about
right). This causes more full seating of the the caddy into the host connector.

While I never had any connection problems with the drives on my HD24XR, I have done
the washer mod and all the caddies that have had the mod feel way more secure
when they seat.

It's a great machine, with many good features for the money, but this part of its
execution isn't the best. Be gentle with it, don't force it, but try giving it just
a little help in this area and see if that doesn't clear the problem.

Hope that helps,

Frank Stearns
Mobile Audio

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[DienerMusic]

On Oct 18, 8:29*pm, Rick Ruskin wrote:
I just got a used HD24 yesterday. Both supplied drives mount and
operate fine in Bay # 1 but when in Bay 2 they mount and then
dismount. Afterward, the display says "check jumper setting." I find
nothing in the manual about a different jumper setting for Bay 2. The
only thing mentioned is that all drives should be set for
master/single. Any one know what's going on here?
Rick Ruskin
Lion Dog Music - Seattle WAhttp://liondogmusic.comhttp://www.myspace.com/rickruskin

You might want to visit the HD24 yahoogroup. There are a few known
problems involving the physical connection of the drive to the bay.
One fix involves adding plastic washers to the caddy behind the
multipin connector. Essentially the drive is not making full contact
so it dismounts. I've had problems with a particular drive/caddy, and
haven't been able to determine if it's the drive itself or the caddy.
Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't! Also the HD24 appears to
prefer some brands of harddrive over others. Good Luck!

[Peter Larsen[_3_]]

DienerMusic wrote:

You might want to visit the HD24 yahoogroup.

Indeed, strongly recommended! - also consider that the drive bays are not
designed for the road, either take the drives out during transport or
transport the unit "drives up".

Kind regards

Peter Larsen

[Rick Ruskin]

On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 18:48:40 -0700 (PDT), DienerMusic
wrote:

On Oct 18, 8:29Â*pm, Rick Ruskin wrote:
I just got a used HD24 yesterday. Both supplied drives mount and
operate fine in Bay # 1 but when in Bay 2 they mount and then
dismount. Afterward, the display says "check jumper setting." I find
nothing in the manual about a different jumper setting for Bay 2. The
only thing mentioned is that all drives should be set for
master/single. Any one know what's going on here?
Rick Ruskin
Lion Dog Music - Seattle WAhttp://liondogmusic.comhttp://www.myspace.com/rickruskin

You might want to visit the HD24 yahoogroup. There are a few known
problems involving the physical connection of the drive to the bay.
One fix involves adding plastic washers to the caddy behind the
multipin connector. Essentially the drive is not making full contact
so it dismounts. I've had problems with a particular drive/caddy, and
haven't been able to determine if it's the drive itself or the caddy.
Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't! Also the HD24 appears to
prefer some brands of harddrive over others. Good Luck!

I've tried all auggestions and nothing helps so far. I have
determined that any drive in bay 2 is not getting power. Swapping the
power connectors makes no difference. All ribbon connectors are
tight. Any ohter suggestions as to what the cause(s) might be?

Rick Ruskin
Lion Dog Music - Seattle WA
http://liondogmusic.com
http://www.myspace.com/rickruskin

[Scott Dorsey]

Rick Ruskin wrote:
I've tried all auggestions and nothing helps so far. I have
determined that any drive in bay 2 is not getting power. Swapping the
power connectors makes no difference. All ribbon connectors are
tight. Any ohter suggestions as to what the cause(s) might be?

The meter will tell you. The meter is your friend. Track from the power
pins on the connector on back.

Odds are there is a fuse or a "safety resistor" that is gone, assuming
you don't have a timer to delay power on for the drive.... in which case
the timing circuit is suspect too. The meter will tell you for sure.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

[Mike Rivers]

On Oct 23, 6:03 pm, Rick Ruskin wrote:

I've tried all auggestions and nothing helps so far. I have
determined that any drive in bay 2 is not getting power. Swapping the
power connectors makes no difference. All ribbon connectors are
tight. Any ohter suggestions as to what the cause(s) might be?

That kind of points to the drive bay. The one that's used in the
Mackie hard disk recorders has a little circuit board inside with
several components on it. I've had one fail on me, and a couple of
others have, too. If the cables reach, you could swap them and see if
the same drive bay (with the cables swapped, the "other" drive with
respect to the recorder) still has the problem.

You will probably have to deal with Alesis to get a replacement.

[Romeo Rondeau[_4_]]

Mike Rivers wrote:
On Oct 23, 6:03 pm, Rick Ruskin wrote:

I've tried all auggestions and nothing helps so far. I have
determined that any drive in bay 2 is not getting power. Swapping the
power connectors makes no difference. All ribbon connectors are
tight. Any ohter suggestions as to what the cause(s) might be?

That kind of points to the drive bay. The one that's used in the
Mackie hard disk recorders has a little circuit board inside with
several components on it. I've had one fail on me, and a couple of
others have, too. If the cables reach, you could swap them and see if
the same drive bay (with the cables swapped, the "other" drive with
respect to the recorder) still has the problem.

You will probably have to deal with Alesis to get a replacement.


http://www.samedaymusic.com/product--ALECADDY

[Mike Rivers]

Mike Rivers wrote:
You will probably have to deal with Alesis to get a replacement.

Romeo Rondeau wrote:
http://www.samedaymusic.com/product--ALECADDY

If that was the part he needed, he could tell because the "faulty" drive
wouldn't work in either hole. What he might need is the part that's
installed in the recorder, not the enclosure for the bare disk drive. I
wasn't aware of the firmware-controlled power switching for the disk
drives that Richard mentioned. That could be a nasty problem to find
since it's difficult, without getting pretty far into the inner
workings, whether it's a hardware or a firmware problem. And if it's a
firmware problem, it could require a replacement or reprogramming of an
EPROM,



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If you e-mail me and it bounces, use your secret decoder ring and reach
me he
double-m-eleven-double-zero at yahoo -- I'm really Mike Rivers
)

[Rick Ruskin]

On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 19:54:53 -0700 (PDT), Mike Rivers
wrote:

On Oct 23, 6:03 pm, Rick Ruskin wrote:

I've tried all auggestions and nothing helps so far. I have
determined that any drive in bay 2 is not getting power. Swapping the
power connectors makes no difference. All ribbon connectors are
tight. Any ohter suggestions as to what the cause(s) might be?

That kind of points to the drive bay. The one that's used in the
Mackie hard disk recorders has a little circuit board inside with
several components on it. I've had one fail on me, and a couple of
others have, too. If the cables reach, you could swap them and see if
the same drive bay (with the cables swapped, the "other" drive with
respect to the recorder) still has the problem.

You will probably have to deal with Alesis to get a replacement.

This problem solved. Bad transistor on the drive bay pc board.

New problem: No signal at input of tracks 21 & 22. A/D converter for
that position is toast. Part # is AL1101. Can these be purchased
individually or will I be forced to buy an entirely new A/D assembly?



Rick Ruskin
Lion Dog Music - Seattle WA
http://liondogmusic.com
http://www.myspace.com/rickruskin

[Mike Rivers]

Rick Ruskin wrote:

This problem solved. Bad transistor on the drive bay pc board.

Good work. I have a dead Mackie (Lian Li RH-58) drive bay here. I
probably should figure out what's wrong with it and fix it.

New problem: No signal at input of tracks 21 & 22. A/D converter for
that position is toast. Part # is AL1101. Can these be purchased
individually or will I be forced to buy an entirely new A/D assembly?

It's a Wavefront part, which is Alesis Semiconductor. If you can find a
distributor that carries the chip, you should be able to buy it
separately. Did you check the DigiKey catalog?


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If you e-mail me and it bounces, use your secret decoder ring and reach
me he
double-m-eleven-double-zero at yahoo -- I'm really Mike Rivers
)

[Richard Crowley]

"Rick Ruskin" wrote ...
I've tried all auggestions and nothing helps so far. I have
determined that any drive in bay 2 is not getting power. Swapping the
power connectors makes no difference. All ribbon connectors are
tight. Any ohter suggestions as to what the cause(s) might be?

Remember that the HD24 actively switches drive bay power
on/off under control of the computer firmware. It is possibly a
problem with the power switching mechanism. I have not looked
closely enough to know exactly what that is.

[[email protected]]

On Saturday, October 18, 2008 at 7:29:09 PM UTC-5, Rick Ruskin wrote:
I just got a used HD24 yesterday. Both supplied drives mount and
operate fine in Bay # 1 but when in Bay 2 they mount and then
dismount. Afterward, the display says "check jumper setting." I find
nothing in the manual about a different jumper setting for Bay 2. The
only thing mentioned is that all drives should be set for
master/single. Any one know what's going on here?
Rick Ruskin
Lion Dog Music - Seattle WA
http://liondogmusic.com
http://www.myspace.com/rickruskin

Guys II have a problem. after transfer with alesis interface theres nuthin really there.

[Scott Dorsey]

wrote:

Guys II have a problem. after transfer with alesis interface theres nuthin really there.

Transfer from what to where?

You have a computer and you played something through lightpipe into the HD24
and nothing was recorded to disk?

You had a file on the HD24 and you played it through lightpipe into a computer
and the computer didn't see anything?

You can record and play through the analogue inputs? Or did this happen when
using the analogue inputs?
--scott

--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

[[email protected]]

On Monday, July 25, 2016 at 10:20:18 AM UTC-5, Scott Dorsey wrote:
wrote:

Guys II have a problem. after transfer with alesis interface theres nuthin really there.

Transfer from what to where?

You have a computer and you played something through lightpipe into the HD24
and nothing was recorded to disk?

You had a file on the HD24 and you played it through lightpipe into a computer
and the computer didn't see anything?

You can record and play through the analogue inputs? Or did this happen when
using the analogue inputs?
--scott

--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
I'm just ranfering them to the computer to use in DAw program.

[[email protected]]

On Monday, July 25, 2016 at 10:20:18 AM UTC-5, Scott Dorsey wrote:
wrote:

Guys II have a problem. after transfer with alesis interface theres nuthin really there.

Transfer from what to where?

You have a computer and you played something through lightpipe into the HD24
and nothing was recorded to disk?

You had a file on the HD24 and you played it through lightpipe into a computer
and the computer didn't see anything?

You can record and play through the analogue inputs? Or did this happen when
using the analogue inputs?
--scott

--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

I'm wanting to transfer to computer thru 1394 interface

[Scott Dorsey]

In article ,
wrote:
On Monday, July 25, 2016 at 10:20:18 AM UTC-5, Scott Dorsey wrote:
wrote:

Guys II have a problem. after transfer with alesis interface theres nuthin really there.

Transfer from what to where?

You have a computer and you played something through lightpipe into the HD24
and nothing was recorded to disk?

You had a file on the HD24 and you played it through lightpipe into a computer
and the computer didn't see anything?

You can record and play through the analogue inputs? Or did this happen when
using the analogue inputs?

I'm wanting to transfer to computer thru 1394 interface

Okay, then you need a device to turn the lightpipe signal into a firewire
signal, then you need a computer with an operating system and some application
that can read from the firewire. Do you have these things and if so what
kind are they?
--scott

--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

[Frank Stearns]

(Scott Dorsey) writes:

In article ,
wrote:
On Monday, July 25, 2016 at 10:20:18 AM UTC-5, Scott Dorsey wrote:
wrote:

Guys II have a problem. after transfer with alesis interface theres nuthin really there.

Transfer from what to where?

You have a computer and you played something through lightpipe into the HD24
and nothing was recorded to disk?

You had a file on the HD24 and you played it through lightpipe into a computer
and the computer didn't see anything?

You can record and play through the analogue inputs? Or did this happen when
using the analogue inputs?

I'm wanting to transfer to computer thru 1394 interface

Okay, then you need a device to turn the lightpipe signal into a firewire
signal, then you need a computer with an operating system and some application
that can read from the firewire. Do you have these things and if so what
kind are they?

If such a thing existed, it would be a painful method, as it would likely be
a real-time transfer.

Slipping the hard drive out of the HD24 (as it's designed to do), connecting it to a
computer via a docking station that talks to your DAW, can be a blindingly fast way
to do the transfer.

The new 3rd party software is very fast; I get rates that are probably better than
50x real-time for transfers. (The original Alesis transfer software was probably
around 20-25x.)

Of course, straight-ahead use of WAV files on standard-format drives would be nice,
but back in the day drives were not fast enough to support this. And, even then, I
still like the proprietary formatting Alesis does for multitrack audio recording.
Many potenial gotchas are taken out of the disk equation when multitrack audio is
what the format was designed to do.

Frank
Mobile Audio

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[Mike Rivers[_2_]]

On 7/25/2016 6:08 PM, wrote:
I'm wanting to transfer to computer thru 1394 interface

The HD24 connects to a computer through Ethernet (and it's only
10BaseT). Are you talking about the Fireport adapter that plugs into the
back of an HD24 drive? Have you RTFM? You can still get a copy from the
secret Alesis obsolete gear web site:
http://67.192.162.144/fireport

You can also get the software that you have to use with it from the same
web site. It's not just plug-and-play.



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For a good time, call http://mikeriversaudio.wordpress.com

[Frank Stearns]

Mike Rivers writes:

On 7/25/2016 6:08 PM, wrote:
I'm wanting to transfer to computer thru 1394 interface

The HD24 connects to a computer through Ethernet (and it's only
10BaseT). Are you talking about the Fireport adapter that plugs into the
back of an HD24 drive? Have you RTFM? You can still get a copy from the
secret Alesis obsolete gear web site:
http://67.192.162.144/fireport

You can also get the software that you have to use with it from the same
web site. It's not just plug-and-play.

And, that software will *not* run under win 7. XP is the last workable OS for the
Alesis transfer software.

However, do a web search for "HD24tools". A fellow in Europe has developed
replacement software by that name that will work with newer operating systems. Also,
it'll work with a wider range of configurations, such as inboard docking stations
rather than the external fireport (but I'm not 100% sure on that last one; I still
have and use my original Alesis fireport for transfers).

Also be aware that an HD24 Yahoo group exists; lots of helpful folks over there.

Frank
Mobile Audio

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[Mike Rivers[_2_]]

On 7/25/2016 11:01 AM, wrote:
Guys II have a problem. after transfer with alesis interface theres nuthin really there.

When you play back the recording, do the meters move? If so, there's
sum'thin there. The HD24 uses its own format on the hard drive, so you
need a program in order to copy recordings to a computer as WAV files.



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