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Hi all,

I have a mini-DV tape with a nature sounds soundtrack I would like to
capture, edit (basically copy several times to make a longer track), and
burn on CD. As the soundtrack is digital and will be captured through
firewire, edited digitally, and burned on audio CD, it appears to me that
the quality of my soundcard has no influence in any way on this process
(i.e. a crappy one can generate a hiss in playback but the sound card is not
in the chain of DVtape-to-PC-to-CD).

Am I correct here?

Many thanks,

BN


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Bob,

As the soundtrack is digital and will be captured through firewire ... it

appears to me that the quality of my soundcard has no influence

Yes, you are correct.

--Ethan


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Bob,

As the soundtrack is digital and will be captured through firewire ... it

appears to me that the quality of my soundcard has no influence

Yes, you are correct.

--Ethan


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Bob,

As the soundtrack is digital and will be captured through firewire ... it

appears to me that the quality of my soundcard has no influence

Yes, you are correct.

--Ethan


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Bob,

As the soundtrack is digital and will be captured through firewire ... it

appears to me that the quality of my soundcard has no influence

Yes, you are correct.

--Ethan




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wereoboy wrote:

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
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Robert Morein wrote:


However, if you wish to use filters or noise reduction, or choose
clips based upon quality comparisons, then you need a decent card.


Completely wrong. What you need is a good editor. The sound card is
just an interface and it provides no filters, noise reduction or
other editing facilities unless some software happens to be packaged
with it.


Completely wrong interpretation of what I said.


First off, there is no record of a previous post by "weroboy" that I
commented on. So, I can't have possibly wrongly interpreted what you said
"weroboy" since I've not commented on anything that you wrote.

Secondly, it's too bad I've got this hang up about reading English as it is
written. If that was indeed you speaking under a different false name, then
you used the word "card". No "card" is necessarily needed.

In order to HEAR and JUDGE, one needs a good sound card.


Not necessarily, In order to edit all you need is some kind of a working
audio interface. These days most modern PCs come with an audio interface on
the motherboard.

As you point out, the card is not involved in the processing, only in the

JUDGING..

What card? No sound card is required, just a chip on the motherboard that is
no doubt already there.


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Robert Morein
 
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"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
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wereoboy wrote:

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...


Robert Morein wrote:


However, if you wish to use filters or noise reduction, or choose
clips based upon quality comparisons, then you need a decent card.


Completely wrong. What you need is a good editor. The sound card is
just an interface and it provides no filters, noise reduction or
other editing facilities unless some software happens to be packaged
with it.


Completely wrong interpretation of what I said.


First off, there is no record of a previous post by "weroboy" that I
commented on. So, I can't have possibly wrongly interpreted what you said
"weroboy" since I've not commented on anything that you wrote.

Secondly, it's too bad I've got this hang up about reading English as it

is
written. If that was indeed you speaking under a different false name,

then
you used the word "card". No "card" is necessarily needed.

In order to HEAR and JUDGE, one needs a good sound card.


Not necessarily, In order to edit all you need is some kind of a working
audio interface. These days most modern PCs come with an audio interface

on
the motherboard.

As you point out, the card is not involved in the processing, only in

the
JUDGING..

What card? No sound card is required, just a chip on the motherboard that

is
no doubt already there.

The response was made by me.
Even you, Arny Krueger, have documented differences in sound cards.
In order to audition the sound, a high level of quality is required.
Any filter with adjustable parameters has tradeoffs in the application.
Since the result of filtering is usually subject to subjective judgement,
the quality of the DAC matters.

I have a modern laptop that appears to have excellent quality.
On the other hand, a Slot A Athlon I used until recently had audio quality
that was extremely poor.
Although it is likely that the user has a good DAC, it is not certain.
Therefore, it is worth bringing to his attention that the DAC, wherever it
may be located, should be a good one.






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Robert Morein
 
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"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
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wereoboy wrote:

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...


Robert Morein wrote:


However, if you wish to use filters or noise reduction, or choose
clips based upon quality comparisons, then you need a decent card.


Completely wrong. What you need is a good editor. The sound card is
just an interface and it provides no filters, noise reduction or
other editing facilities unless some software happens to be packaged
with it.


Completely wrong interpretation of what I said.


First off, there is no record of a previous post by "weroboy" that I
commented on. So, I can't have possibly wrongly interpreted what you said
"weroboy" since I've not commented on anything that you wrote.

Secondly, it's too bad I've got this hang up about reading English as it

is
written. If that was indeed you speaking under a different false name,

then
you used the word "card". No "card" is necessarily needed.

In order to HEAR and JUDGE, one needs a good sound card.


Not necessarily, In order to edit all you need is some kind of a working
audio interface. These days most modern PCs come with an audio interface

on
the motherboard.

As you point out, the card is not involved in the processing, only in

the
JUDGING..

What card? No sound card is required, just a chip on the motherboard that

is
no doubt already there.

The response was made by me.
Even you, Arny Krueger, have documented differences in sound cards.
In order to audition the sound, a high level of quality is required.
Any filter with adjustable parameters has tradeoffs in the application.
Since the result of filtering is usually subject to subjective judgement,
the quality of the DAC matters.

I have a modern laptop that appears to have excellent quality.
On the other hand, a Slot A Athlon I used until recently had audio quality
that was extremely poor.
Although it is likely that the user has a good DAC, it is not certain.
Therefore, it is worth bringing to his attention that the DAC, wherever it
may be located, should be a good one.




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Robert Morein
 
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"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
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wereoboy wrote:

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...


Robert Morein wrote:


However, if you wish to use filters or noise reduction, or choose
clips based upon quality comparisons, then you need a decent card.


Completely wrong. What you need is a good editor. The sound card is
just an interface and it provides no filters, noise reduction or
other editing facilities unless some software happens to be packaged
with it.


Completely wrong interpretation of what I said.


First off, there is no record of a previous post by "weroboy" that I
commented on. So, I can't have possibly wrongly interpreted what you said
"weroboy" since I've not commented on anything that you wrote.

Secondly, it's too bad I've got this hang up about reading English as it

is
written. If that was indeed you speaking under a different false name,

then
you used the word "card". No "card" is necessarily needed.

In order to HEAR and JUDGE, one needs a good sound card.


Not necessarily, In order to edit all you need is some kind of a working
audio interface. These days most modern PCs come with an audio interface

on
the motherboard.

As you point out, the card is not involved in the processing, only in

the
JUDGING..

What card? No sound card is required, just a chip on the motherboard that

is
no doubt already there.

The response was made by me.
Even you, Arny Krueger, have documented differences in sound cards.
In order to audition the sound, a high level of quality is required.
Any filter with adjustable parameters has tradeoffs in the application.
Since the result of filtering is usually subject to subjective judgement,
the quality of the DAC matters.

I have a modern laptop that appears to have excellent quality.
On the other hand, a Slot A Athlon I used until recently had audio quality
that was extremely poor.
Although it is likely that the user has a good DAC, it is not certain.
Therefore, it is worth bringing to his attention that the DAC, wherever it
may be located, should be a good one.




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Robert Morein
 
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"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...
wereoboy wrote:

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...


Robert Morein wrote:


However, if you wish to use filters or noise reduction, or choose
clips based upon quality comparisons, then you need a decent card.


Completely wrong. What you need is a good editor. The sound card is
just an interface and it provides no filters, noise reduction or
other editing facilities unless some software happens to be packaged
with it.


Completely wrong interpretation of what I said.


First off, there is no record of a previous post by "weroboy" that I
commented on. So, I can't have possibly wrongly interpreted what you said
"weroboy" since I've not commented on anything that you wrote.

Secondly, it's too bad I've got this hang up about reading English as it

is
written. If that was indeed you speaking under a different false name,

then
you used the word "card". No "card" is necessarily needed.

In order to HEAR and JUDGE, one needs a good sound card.


Not necessarily, In order to edit all you need is some kind of a working
audio interface. These days most modern PCs come with an audio interface

on
the motherboard.

As you point out, the card is not involved in the processing, only in

the
JUDGING..

What card? No sound card is required, just a chip on the motherboard that

is
no doubt already there.

The response was made by me.
Even you, Arny Krueger, have documented differences in sound cards.
In order to audition the sound, a high level of quality is required.
Any filter with adjustable parameters has tradeoffs in the application.
Since the result of filtering is usually subject to subjective judgement,
the quality of the DAC matters.

I have a modern laptop that appears to have excellent quality.
On the other hand, a Slot A Athlon I used until recently had audio quality
that was extremely poor.
Although it is likely that the user has a good DAC, it is not certain.
Therefore, it is worth bringing to his attention that the DAC, wherever it
may be located, should be a good one.




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Arny Krueger
 
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wereoboy wrote:

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
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Robert Morein wrote:


However, if you wish to use filters or noise reduction, or choose
clips based upon quality comparisons, then you need a decent card.


Completely wrong. What you need is a good editor. The sound card is
just an interface and it provides no filters, noise reduction or
other editing facilities unless some software happens to be packaged
with it.


Completely wrong interpretation of what I said.


First off, there is no record of a previous post by "weroboy" that I
commented on. So, I can't have possibly wrongly interpreted what you said
"weroboy" since I've not commented on anything that you wrote.

Secondly, it's too bad I've got this hang up about reading English as it is
written. If that was indeed you speaking under a different false name, then
you used the word "card". No "card" is necessarily needed.

In order to HEAR and JUDGE, one needs a good sound card.


Not necessarily, In order to edit all you need is some kind of a working
audio interface. These days most modern PCs come with an audio interface on
the motherboard.

As you point out, the card is not involved in the processing, only in the

JUDGING..

What card? No sound card is required, just a chip on the motherboard that is
no doubt already there.


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wereoboy wrote:

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
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Robert Morein wrote:


However, if you wish to use filters or noise reduction, or choose
clips based upon quality comparisons, then you need a decent card.


Completely wrong. What you need is a good editor. The sound card is
just an interface and it provides no filters, noise reduction or
other editing facilities unless some software happens to be packaged
with it.


Completely wrong interpretation of what I said.


First off, there is no record of a previous post by "weroboy" that I
commented on. So, I can't have possibly wrongly interpreted what you said
"weroboy" since I've not commented on anything that you wrote.

Secondly, it's too bad I've got this hang up about reading English as it is
written. If that was indeed you speaking under a different false name, then
you used the word "card". No "card" is necessarily needed.

In order to HEAR and JUDGE, one needs a good sound card.


Not necessarily, In order to edit all you need is some kind of a working
audio interface. These days most modern PCs come with an audio interface on
the motherboard.

As you point out, the card is not involved in the processing, only in the

JUDGING..

What card? No sound card is required, just a chip on the motherboard that is
no doubt already there.




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wereoboy wrote:

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...


Robert Morein wrote:


However, if you wish to use filters or noise reduction, or choose
clips based upon quality comparisons, then you need a decent card.


Completely wrong. What you need is a good editor. The sound card is
just an interface and it provides no filters, noise reduction or
other editing facilities unless some software happens to be packaged
with it.


Completely wrong interpretation of what I said.


First off, there is no record of a previous post by "weroboy" that I
commented on. So, I can't have possibly wrongly interpreted what you said
"weroboy" since I've not commented on anything that you wrote.

Secondly, it's too bad I've got this hang up about reading English as it is
written. If that was indeed you speaking under a different false name, then
you used the word "card". No "card" is necessarily needed.

In order to HEAR and JUDGE, one needs a good sound card.


Not necessarily, In order to edit all you need is some kind of a working
audio interface. These days most modern PCs come with an audio interface on
the motherboard.

As you point out, the card is not involved in the processing, only in the

JUDGING..

What card? No sound card is required, just a chip on the motherboard that is
no doubt already there.


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Hi all,

I have a mini-DV tape with a nature sounds soundtrack I would like to
capture, edit (basically copy several times to make a longer track),
and burn on CD. As the soundtrack is digital and will be captured
through firewire, edited digitally, and burned on audio CD, it
appears to me that the quality of my soundcard has no influence in
any way on this process (i.e. a crappy one can generate a hiss in
playback but the sound card is not in the chain of
DVtape-to-PC-to-CD).

Am I correct here?


Yes, except that your editing decisions may be flawed if based on the sound
you hear froma crap soundcard.

geoff


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Bob Newheart
 
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All,

Thanks very much for the replies, the tech side is clear, the point about
needing to be able to hear to judge how to edit is a good one I didn't have
front of mind. I'll go for a decent card reputed to have little hiss,
audigy2 or something (or did I say something unspeakable just now).

ciao,

BN


"Geoff Wood" -nospam wrote in message
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Hi all,

I have a mini-DV tape with a nature sounds soundtrack I would like to
capture, edit (basically copy several times to make a longer track),
and burn on CD. As the soundtrack is digital and will be captured
through firewire, edited digitally, and burned on audio CD, it
appears to me that the quality of my soundcard has no influence in
any way on this process (i.e. a crappy one can generate a hiss in
playback but the sound card is not in the chain of
DVtape-to-PC-to-CD).

Am I correct here?


Yes, except that your editing decisions may be flawed if based on the

sound
you hear froma crap soundcard.

geoff




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Bob Newheart
 
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All,

Thanks very much for the replies, the tech side is clear, the point about
needing to be able to hear to judge how to edit is a good one I didn't have
front of mind. I'll go for a decent card reputed to have little hiss,
audigy2 or something (or did I say something unspeakable just now).

ciao,

BN


"Geoff Wood" -nospam wrote in message
...
Hi all,

I have a mini-DV tape with a nature sounds soundtrack I would like to
capture, edit (basically copy several times to make a longer track),
and burn on CD. As the soundtrack is digital and will be captured
through firewire, edited digitally, and burned on audio CD, it
appears to me that the quality of my soundcard has no influence in
any way on this process (i.e. a crappy one can generate a hiss in
playback but the sound card is not in the chain of
DVtape-to-PC-to-CD).

Am I correct here?


Yes, except that your editing decisions may be flawed if based on the

sound
you hear froma crap soundcard.

geoff




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Bob Newheart
 
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All,

Thanks very much for the replies, the tech side is clear, the point about
needing to be able to hear to judge how to edit is a good one I didn't have
front of mind. I'll go for a decent card reputed to have little hiss,
audigy2 or something (or did I say something unspeakable just now).

ciao,

BN


"Geoff Wood" -nospam wrote in message
...
Hi all,

I have a mini-DV tape with a nature sounds soundtrack I would like to
capture, edit (basically copy several times to make a longer track),
and burn on CD. As the soundtrack is digital and will be captured
through firewire, edited digitally, and burned on audio CD, it
appears to me that the quality of my soundcard has no influence in
any way on this process (i.e. a crappy one can generate a hiss in
playback but the sound card is not in the chain of
DVtape-to-PC-to-CD).

Am I correct here?


Yes, except that your editing decisions may be flawed if based on the

sound
you hear froma crap soundcard.

geoff




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Bob Newheart
 
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All,

Thanks very much for the replies, the tech side is clear, the point about
needing to be able to hear to judge how to edit is a good one I didn't have
front of mind. I'll go for a decent card reputed to have little hiss,
audigy2 or something (or did I say something unspeakable just now).

ciao,

BN


"Geoff Wood" -nospam wrote in message
...
Hi all,

I have a mini-DV tape with a nature sounds soundtrack I would like to
capture, edit (basically copy several times to make a longer track),
and burn on CD. As the soundtrack is digital and will be captured
through firewire, edited digitally, and burned on audio CD, it
appears to me that the quality of my soundcard has no influence in
any way on this process (i.e. a crappy one can generate a hiss in
playback but the sound card is not in the chain of
DVtape-to-PC-to-CD).

Am I correct here?


Yes, except that your editing decisions may be flawed if based on the

sound
you hear froma crap soundcard.

geoff






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"Geoff Wood" -nospam wrote in message
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Hi all,

I have a mini-DV tape with a nature sounds soundtrack I would like to
capture, edit (basically copy several times to make a longer track),
and burn on CD. As the soundtrack is digital and will be captured
through firewire, edited digitally, and burned on audio CD, it
appears to me that the quality of my soundcard has no influence in
any way on this process (i.e. a crappy one can generate a hiss in
playback but the sound card is not in the chain of
DVtape-to-PC-to-CD).

Am I correct here?


Yes, except that your editing decisions may be flawed if based on the

sound
you hear froma crap soundcard.

geoff

I strongly agree with this.
A good quality sound card is essential for editing this kind of material.
I find the Audigy/2 to be good enough.


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Robert Morein
 
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"Geoff Wood" -nospam wrote in message
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Hi all,

I have a mini-DV tape with a nature sounds soundtrack I would like to
capture, edit (basically copy several times to make a longer track),
and burn on CD. As the soundtrack is digital and will be captured
through firewire, edited digitally, and burned on audio CD, it
appears to me that the quality of my soundcard has no influence in
any way on this process (i.e. a crappy one can generate a hiss in
playback but the sound card is not in the chain of
DVtape-to-PC-to-CD).

Am I correct here?


Yes, except that your editing decisions may be flawed if based on the

sound
you hear froma crap soundcard.

geoff

I strongly agree with this.
A good quality sound card is essential for editing this kind of material.
I find the Audigy/2 to be good enough.


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"Geoff Wood" -nospam wrote in message
...
Hi all,

I have a mini-DV tape with a nature sounds soundtrack I would like to
capture, edit (basically copy several times to make a longer track),
and burn on CD. As the soundtrack is digital and will be captured
through firewire, edited digitally, and burned on audio CD, it
appears to me that the quality of my soundcard has no influence in
any way on this process (i.e. a crappy one can generate a hiss in
playback but the sound card is not in the chain of
DVtape-to-PC-to-CD).

Am I correct here?


Yes, except that your editing decisions may be flawed if based on the

sound
you hear froma crap soundcard.

geoff

I strongly agree with this.
A good quality sound card is essential for editing this kind of material.
I find the Audigy/2 to be good enough.


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Robert Morein
 
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"Geoff Wood" -nospam wrote in message
...
Hi all,

I have a mini-DV tape with a nature sounds soundtrack I would like to
capture, edit (basically copy several times to make a longer track),
and burn on CD. As the soundtrack is digital and will be captured
through firewire, edited digitally, and burned on audio CD, it
appears to me that the quality of my soundcard has no influence in
any way on this process (i.e. a crappy one can generate a hiss in
playback but the sound card is not in the chain of
DVtape-to-PC-to-CD).

Am I correct here?


Yes, except that your editing decisions may be flawed if based on the

sound
you hear froma crap soundcard.

geoff

I strongly agree with this.
A good quality sound card is essential for editing this kind of material.
I find the Audigy/2 to be good enough.


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Geoff Wood
 
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Hi all,

I have a mini-DV tape with a nature sounds soundtrack I would like to
capture, edit (basically copy several times to make a longer track),
and burn on CD. As the soundtrack is digital and will be captured
through firewire, edited digitally, and burned on audio CD, it
appears to me that the quality of my soundcard has no influence in
any way on this process (i.e. a crappy one can generate a hiss in
playback but the sound card is not in the chain of
DVtape-to-PC-to-CD).

Am I correct here?


Yes, except that your editing decisions may be flawed if based on the sound
you hear froma crap soundcard.

geoff




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Geoff Wood
 
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Hi all,

I have a mini-DV tape with a nature sounds soundtrack I would like to
capture, edit (basically copy several times to make a longer track),
and burn on CD. As the soundtrack is digital and will be captured
through firewire, edited digitally, and burned on audio CD, it
appears to me that the quality of my soundcard has no influence in
any way on this process (i.e. a crappy one can generate a hiss in
playback but the sound card is not in the chain of
DVtape-to-PC-to-CD).

Am I correct here?


Yes, except that your editing decisions may be flawed if based on the sound
you hear froma crap soundcard.

geoff


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Geoff Wood
 
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Hi all,

I have a mini-DV tape with a nature sounds soundtrack I would like to
capture, edit (basically copy several times to make a longer track),
and burn on CD. As the soundtrack is digital and will be captured
through firewire, edited digitally, and burned on audio CD, it
appears to me that the quality of my soundcard has no influence in
any way on this process (i.e. a crappy one can generate a hiss in
playback but the sound card is not in the chain of
DVtape-to-PC-to-CD).

Am I correct here?


Yes, except that your editing decisions may be flawed if based on the sound
you hear froma crap soundcard.

geoff


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