I have Cool Edit Pro on my computer (a trial version) and now it's time for
me to make up my mind. Do I want to keep it or not?

If I buy it I will have to spend about 200 on a mic pre amp (that's my
budget) so the total with pre amp and Cool Edit Pro is 200 + 250 = 450.
That's exactly how much Mbox with ProTools LE costs.
I have never tried ProTools, but some people say it's a better software than
Cool Edit.

Would someone please advice me if I should spend my money on the MBox with
ProTools le, or Cool Edit Pro plus a Mic Pre amp?

I am buying this only to record my self playing a classical guitar.
I will never record anything more than perhaps me playing a duet with my
self.
But that's it, I'm doing this in my home.

The big thing I don't like about ProTools, if this is true, is that the
sales man (Guitar Center) told me that I can only use the MBox with it. That
I can not use any other pre amp.
Plus I can only record two tracks at a time.
With Cool Edit Pro I can use any preamp.

Thanks for any advice.

IS.

"IS" wrote in
news
I have Cool Edit Pro on my computer (a trial version) and now it's
time for me to make up my mind. Do I want to keep it or not?

If I buy it I will have to spend about 200 on a mic pre amp (that's my
budget) so the total with pre amp and Cool Edit Pro is 200 + 250 =
450. That's exactly how much Mbox with ProTools LE costs.
I have never tried ProTools, but some people say it's a better
software than Cool Edit.

Would someone please advice me if I should spend my money on the MBox
with ProTools le, or Cool Edit Pro plus a Mic Pre amp?

I am buying this only to record my self playing a classical guitar.
I will never record anything more than perhaps me playing a duet with
my self.
But that's it, I'm doing this in my home.

The big thing I don't like about ProTools, if this is true, is that
the sales man (Guitar Center) told me that I can only use the MBox
with it. That I can not use any other pre amp.
Plus I can only record two tracks at a time.
With Cool Edit Pro I can use any preamp.

Thanks for any advice.

I use both, and I like both. The sales guy is right, ProTools *requires*
you buy the ProTools hardware to get it to work. So if you're planning on
installing CEP on another computer, or giving it to (ahem) your friends,
then it seems DigiDesign has the best copy protection here, and CEP would
be the way to go.

If you have Win9x or OS9 lying around, try ProTools free, available on
DigiDesign's website.

If you like CEP, stick with it, though take a look at the threads here
about Adobe's recent acquisition of Syntrillium, and the cheap deal you can
get on Red Rover.

The main advantage of ProTools over Cool Edit Pro is that your sessions
should travel a little easier to studios that use ProTools. If you're
ProTools on a Mac, it would be even easier.

My assessent is this: ProTools is the easiest of all the audio apps I've
used, Cool Edit Pro is a close second. Cubase/Nuendo, and Sonar are far
behind and I just find them confusing unless I re-read the manual when I
start up with them again.

Good luck to you!

Regards,
Mark

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"Mark T. Wieczorek" wrote in message

My assessent is this: ProTools is the easiest of all the audio apps I've
used, Cool Edit Pro is a close second. Cubase/Nuendo, and Sonar are far
behind and I just find them confusing unless I re-read the manual when I
start up with them again.

Protools 'easiest ' !!! You should try SF Vegas then. Free demo on their
website.

geoff

for your situaion, if you are comfortable with cool edit, then it
seems to make sense to stick with it.

since you are not going to be expoiting every feature of the program,
then it comes down to the interface. if you like the interface then
stick with it.

IS wrote:

I have Cool Edit Pro on my computer (a trial version) and now it's time for
me to make up my mind. Do I want to keep it or not?


I've used CEP for a number of years and except for the
recent bout of instability as it went through it's 2.0
release I have loved it. 2.1 seems to be pretty stable
although it's performance in multitrack is not nearly up to
what is needed to use a practical number of effects as track
inserts. On a 933 mHz machine like mine it falls to its
knees and stutters way too quickly for that but if you are
only doing a couple of tracks it should support you fine.

CEP comes with a remarkably complete toolkit of processes
and functions for manipulating the sound and their quality
is good. I haven't used ProTools other than an aborted
attempt to see what PTFree was like a couple of years ago.
The question I would have for those who do use it is how
does it compare to CEP in terms of built in process
capabilitites? Does the toolkit that comes with CEP have an
equivalent set in PT or are the dymanics, filters, reverbs,
transforms, convolvers, etc. all added cost plugins?


Bob
--

"Things should be described as simply as possible, but no
simpler."

A. Einstein

The question I would have for those who do use it is how
does it compare to CEP in terms of built in process
capabilitites?

Does the toolkit that comes with CEP have an
equivalent set in PT or are the dymanics, filters, reverbs,
transforms, convolvers, etc. all added cost plugins?



Great questions.

See, my thing is that I am so new in this field that I don't even know what
to ask for. ha ha ha

Thanks.

IS

"IS" wrote in message
news
I have Cool Edit Pro on my computer (a trial version) and now it's time
for
me to make up my mind. Do I want to keep it or not?

If I buy it I will have to spend about 200 on a mic pre amp (that's my
budget) so the total with pre amp and Cool Edit Pro is 200 + 250 = 450.

You seem to have missed an important point. If all you want to do is
2-channel recording, you don't need CEP. Cool Edit 2000 is for 2-tracks and
costs $69. It can be expanded to 4 tracks for another $49.

http://www.syntrillium.com/cooledit/

In article m writes:

Would someone please advice me if I should spend my money on the MBox with
ProTools le, or Cool Edit Pro plus a Mic Pre amp?

Like the shrink said, "What do YOU think?" At the moment, Cool Edit
Pro is going through a corporate transistion to Adobe, and while
probably nothing but the name will change, at least for a while, there
are bound to be some changes over the next year which may or may not
affect your life with the program.

The best reason to go the M-Box route is to create project files that
are compatable with probalby the most popular format today. If you're
a collaborator, or if you're likely to want to take your project into
a professional studio for some work or mixing, there's a time
advantage to using ProTools - the studio is pretty sure to have
ProTools and you can load and go without converting or important
anything.

You neglected to mention what you were using as a sound card. The
performance of the M-Box from end to end (mic in to playback output)
is fairly well documented by now. While nobody thinks it's up to the
performance of the finest preamps and converters, it's generally
accepted as being fine for general work. By going the "system" route,
you can improve your sound incrementally - getting a better sound
card, getting a better preamp, getting a better A/D converter, using
different software - as you see and hear the need. You don't have
everything in a single box. So the Cool Edit route offers you more
flexibility.

It's your decision - how much space do you want to commit to this, how
much time, and how long do you think it will be before, either because
of what you hear or what you read, you'll want to upgrade?

The big thing I don't like about ProTools, if this is true, is that the
sales man (Guitar Center) told me that I can only use the MBox with it. That
I can not use any other pre amp.

This is true - only the M-Box will talk to the software, and vice
versa. You can use a different preamp between your microphone and the
M-Box line input, or a different preamp and A/D converter between your
mic and the M-Box digital input. I don't think that you can use
the M-Box with any other software but ProTools, but I'm not sure of
that.

Plus I can only record two tracks at a time.
With Cool Edit Pro I can use any preamp.

I get the sense that you don't quite grasp the whole picture. There's
more to it than a preamp and a program. Perhaps what you're calling a
"preamp" is what the rest of us call a computer audio I/O interface.
These can range from a simple stereo in/out device that needs an
outboard mic preamp to amplifier the microphone to the required input
level of the interface to a box with 8 (or sometimes more) microphone
level inputs with gain, phantom power, and (usually) average sound.




--
I'm really Mike Rivers - )

"Mike Rivers" wrote in message
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This is true - only the M-Box will talk to the software, and vice
versa. You can use a different preamp between your microphone and the
M-Box line input, or a different preamp and A/D converter between your
mic and the M-Box digital input.

Right. There seems to be some confused thinking around the Mbox. It
does have to be connected for Pro Tools to work (think of it as a
dongle), but that doesn't necessarily limit your I/O options. It has
S/PDIF I/O, so you can use whatever converters you want. You can also
obviously plug in whatever preamp you want, either through the Mbox's
line inputs or an external converter.

That said, I was pleasantly surprised by the built-in preamps. I had no
intention of ever using them when I bought the Mbox myself (not because
I didn't trust them, just because mic pres weren't part of the planned
use for my system), but a situation arose recently in which using the
built-in pres was a really convenient solution. Turns out they sounded
better than just "fine." I was pleased.



I don't think that you can use
the M-Box with any other software but ProTools, but I'm not sure of
that.

You can use it with any other software too. There are both traditional
wave drivers (for typical two channel sound card emulation) and ASIO
drivers available from Digidesign.

--
"I got into audio because I like pushing buttons...
...never figured on all this freakin' wire!"
- Lorin David Schultz

What about Vegas Video? WHat's your opinion on that?

Chad

"Chad" wrote in message
...
What about Vegas Video? WHat's your opinion on that?


Now just called 'Vegas' . Their marketing dudes took a long time to figure
that the 'Video' tended to make audio types think it was not a
fully-equipped preeminent straight DAW app *as well* as the video part.

geoff

Get Adobe Audition, it's a bigger, better version of Cool Edit Pro.
Protools sucks....too confusing, too many problems. You're better off
saving up some money and buying an m-audio interface and a nice little
preamp...or a preamp built into the interface. You'll save a whole lot
of time and a bottle of Motrin. Once you get Protools running the way
it should, it's pretty good, but I don't really find it any better than
Adobe Audition or Cool Edit Pro. They both get the job done, Protools
just does it the hard way.

As a long time user of Cool Edit (and now Audittion), I'd have to say that
while Pro Tools has become the standard for pro studios, Audition is far ansd
away the better program for ME. Since the early pro tool days (anyone rememner
Session 8?) i had always shied away from the hardware they stick you with.
Nothing wrong with it per se, but nothing that I can't get elsewhere. I guess I
personaly just dont care for the feature set Digi sticks you with, just to use
the software, which doesnt do anything more that AA. Your milage may vary.
Bottom line, if you need total compatibility pro tools has it. If anyone ever
makes me use pro tools to get a gig, I'll but an Mbox thing and have it. Good
Luck!
Jer sundog audio, chicago

On Sun, 26 Dec 2004 02:07:07 -0500, www.HassanAnsari.com - Teen Prodigy wrote
(in article .com):

Get Adobe Audition, it's a bigger, better version of Cool Edit Pro.
Protools sucks....too confusing, too many problems. You're better off
saving up some money and buying an m-audio interface and a nice little
preamp...or a preamp built into the interface. You'll save a whole lot
of time and a bottle of Motrin. Once you get Protools running the way
it should, it's pretty good, but I don't really find it any better than
Adobe Audition or Cool Edit Pro. They both get the job done, Protools
just does it the hard way.


A lot of people hate what they don't understand, and won't take the time to
learn. Pro Tools is a very powerful software. I run it daily on two Macs and
a Ti Book.

Hope you don't mind, but I'll remain in disagreement with your position.

Smiles,

Ty Ford



-- Ty Ford's equipment reviews, audio samples, rates and other audiocentric
stuff are at www.tyford.com

Get Adobe Audition, it's a bigger, better version of Cool Edit Pro.
Protools sucks....too confusing, too many problems. You're better off
saving up some money and buying an m-audio interface and a nice little
preamp...or a preamp built into the interface. You'll save a whole lot
of time and a bottle of Motrin. Once you get Protools running the way
it should, it's pretty good, but I don't really find it any better than
Adobe Audition or Cool Edit Pro. They both get the job done, Protools
just does it the hard way.


A lot of people hate what they don't understand, and won't take the time
to
learn. Pro Tools is a very powerful software.

Agreed. There are reasons to use other programs, but most people who are
biased against Protools have no idea about its advanced features that make
it invaluable to so many. $5 says this pilgrim thinks playlisting is a
feature that lets you play songs in a specified order...

Get Adobe Audition, it's a bigger, better version of Cool Edit Pro.
Protools sucks....too confusing, too many problems.

WaveLab.