I'm upgrading my factory car stereo with a new headunit, speakers, and
amp/subwoofer. I'm trying to decide what RCA cables to use to go from the
HU to the amp. The Streetwires Zero Noise twisted-pair style interconnects
look interesting.

Cany anybody tell me their experiences with this style of cable, does it
seem to be adequately shielded and does it have satisfactory noise
rejection?

thanks,

jp

I'm upgrading my factory car stereo with a new headunit, speakers, and
amp/subwoofer. I'm trying to decide what RCA cables to use to go from the
HU to the amp. The Streetwires Zero Noise twisted-pair style interconnects
look interesting.

Cany anybody tell me their experiences with this style of cable, does it
seem to be adequately shielded and does it have satisfactory noise
rejection?

thanks,


Most of the fancy RCA cables are eye candy. Twisted pair, better shielding,
etc. are usually based on scientific priciples but are taken to the extreme.
Kinda like damping factor and THD. I call it the Monster Cable effect.
Buy RCAs that have adequate shielding, and the Radio Shack stuff is usually
enough. I would never pay more than $15 for a pair, and thats if I am paying
more to get a certain look to match the car or theme or whatever. In other
words, though the cables you are looking at are good enough you will probably
pay way to much for them.

Les

"Psych-O-Delic Voodoo Thunder Pig" wrote in message
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I'm upgrading my factory car stereo with a new headunit, speakers, and
amp/subwoofer. I'm trying to decide what RCA cables to use to go from the
HU to the amp. The Streetwires Zero Noise twisted-pair style
interconnects
look interesting.

Cany anybody tell me their experiences with this style of cable, does it
seem to be adequately shielded and does it have satisfactory noise
rejection?

Metal is metal.

Noise is an issue with the source and amplifier, not the wires connecting
them.

I have made my own twisted pair cables for years. All it takes is good wire
of the proper size, an electric hand drill, RCA ends and a soldering iron.

The really good thing about making your own is that you can vary the twist
per foot ( how tight or how loose the twist ) and the twist direction of
rotation. This can help to minimize crosstalk.

You can also:

1. Choose your own colors of wire
2 Choose the type of wire jacket e.g. teflon, rubber, pvc, silicone
3. Choose the number of wire strands in the wire. For a given diameter of
wire, you can use more strands of smaller dia copper wire to make your
cables more flexible.
4. Choose your own end connectors ( I use Neutrik Pro-Fi )
check out www.neutrik.com

Regards,

John Andreen



Psych-O-Delic Voodoo Thunder Pig wrote:

I'm upgrading my factory car stereo with a new headunit, speakers, and
amp/subwoofer. I'm trying to decide what RCA cables to use to go from the
HU to the amp. The Streetwires Zero Noise twisted-pair style
interconnects look interesting.

Cany anybody tell me their experiences with this style of cable, does it
seem to be adequately shielded and does it have satisfactory noise
rejection?

thanks,

jp

Stay as cheap as possible, wires don't mean jack, it's all a marketing
gimmick (read the other replies to your post).... just make sure they are
tough enough for a car environment, this way they'll be better designed to
handle the abuse.

If you want a "Look", then by all means, spend away!!! I mean, cool looking
cables look great covered by carpet.

FHLH


"Psych-O-Delic Voodoo Thunder Pig" wrote in message
news:7r4Mb.20092$sv6.62600@attbi_s52...
I'm upgrading my factory car stereo with a new headunit, speakers, and
amp/subwoofer. I'm trying to decide what RCA cables to use to go from the
HU to the amp. The Streetwires Zero Noise twisted-pair style
interconnects
look interesting.

Cany anybody tell me their experiences with this style of cable, does it
seem to be adequately shielded and does it have satisfactory noise
rejection?

thanks,

jp

I am the only one on this NG who would recommend higher end RCAs. In my
accord with my Hifonics VIII Europa I was picking up alternator whine
through the RCA cables. At the time I was using radio shack generic
RCAs, the shielded black ones with the gold plugs @ the ends. Drove me
nuts... run the RCA within 1.5 feet of the amp and alt whine would
enter. It was progressive too, the closer the RCA was located to the
amp the louder the whine became. It made cable routing a pain.
Upgraded to high end cables and the whine stopped completely.

At the time I was an IASCA competitor, with the whine costing me about
10-12 Noise floor points.

Garrett

Psych-O-Delic Voodoo Thunder Pig wrote:

I'm upgrading my factory car stereo with a new headunit, speakers, and
amp/subwoofer. I'm trying to decide what RCA cables to use to go from the
HU to the amp. The Streetwires Zero Noise twisted-pair style interconnects
look interesting.

Cany anybody tell me their experiences with this style of cable, does it
seem to be adequately shielded and does it have satisfactory noise
rejection?

thanks,

jp

In article ,
sanitarium wrote:

I am the only one on this NG who would recommend higher end RCAs. In my
accord with my Hifonics VIII Europa I was picking up alternator whine
through the RCA cables. At the time I was using radio shack generic
RCAs, the shielded black ones with the gold plugs @ the ends. Drove me
nuts... run the RCA within 1.5 feet of the amp and alt whine would
enter. It was progressive too, the closer the RCA was located to the
amp the louder the whine became. It made cable routing a pain.
Upgraded to high end cables and the whine stopped completely.

At the time I was an IASCA competitor, with the whine costing me about
10-12 Noise floor points.

Garrett


You can also twist the (+) and (-) power cables near the amp so their
magnetic fields, which include the alternator whine, cancel after a
short distance. It can reduce cable routing problems if you're
unfortunate enough to have an amp with power inputs and audio inputs
nearby.

Maybe the RS cable was damaged. If the shield was broken it'd do that. Did
you try other RS rcas?


Paul Vina




"sanitarium" wrote in message
...
I am the only one on this NG who would recommend higher end RCAs. In my
accord with my Hifonics VIII Europa I was picking up alternator whine
through the RCA cables. At the time I was using radio shack generic
RCAs, the shielded black ones with the gold plugs @ the ends. Drove me
nuts... run the RCA within 1.5 feet of the amp and alt whine would
enter. It was progressive too, the closer the RCA was located to the
amp the louder the whine became. It made cable routing a pain.
Upgraded to high end cables and the whine stopped completely.

At the time I was an IASCA competitor, with the whine costing me about
10-12 Noise floor points.

Garrett

Psych-O-Delic Voodoo Thunder Pig wrote:

I'm upgrading my factory car stereo with a new headunit, speakers, and
amp/subwoofer. I'm trying to decide what RCA cables to use to go from
the
HU to the amp. The Streetwires Zero Noise twisted-pair style
interconnects
look interesting.

Cany anybody tell me their experiences with this style of cable, does it
seem to be adequately shielded and does it have satisfactory noise
rejection?

thanks,

jp

I replaced it with my dad's phoenix gold RCAs for a couple IASCA shows
and the problem was fixed. I settled with a monster cable interlink of
some sort, about a 35$ cable. Possible I got a bad cable from RS, but I
took it apart and re-flow'd the solder joints to no avail. Ive been
using it in my guitar rack for years and it sounds great with my high
gain tube rack pictured on right...
http://images.cardomain.com/member_i...68_59_full.jpg

I cant figure it out, but I'm glad I found a solution... :~)
Garrett

Paul Vina wrote:

Maybe the RS cable was damaged. If the shield was broken it'd do that. Did
you try other RS rcas?


Paul Vina




"sanitarium" wrote in message
...


I am the only one on this NG who would recommend higher end RCAs. In my
accord with my Hifonics VIII Europa I was picking up alternator whine
through the RCA cables. At the time I was using radio shack generic
RCAs, the shielded black ones with the gold plugs @ the ends. Drove me
nuts... run the RCA within 1.5 feet of the amp and alt whine would
enter. It was progressive too, the closer the RCA was located to the
amp the louder the whine became. It made cable routing a pain.
Upgraded to high end cables and the whine stopped completely.

At the time I was an IASCA competitor, with the whine costing me about
10-12 Noise floor points.

Garrett

Psych-O-Delic Voodoo Thunder Pig wrote:



I'm upgrading my factory car stereo with a new headunit, speakers, and
amp/subwoofer. I'm trying to decide what RCA cables to use to go from


the


HU to the amp. The Streetwires Zero Noise twisted-pair style


interconnects


look interesting.

Cany anybody tell me their experiences with this style of cable, does it
seem to be adequately shielded and does it have satisfactory noise
rejection?

thanks,

jp

I replaced it with my dad's phoenix gold RCAs for a couple IASCA shows
and the problem was fixed. I settled with a monster cable interlink of
some sort, about a 35$ cable. Possible I got a bad cable from RS, but I
took it apart and re-flow'd the solder joints to no avail. Ive been
using it in my guitar rack for years and it sounds great with my high
gain tube rack pictured on right...

http://images.cardomain.com/member_i...68_59_full.jpg

I cant figure it out, but I'm glad I found a solution... :~)

If your amplifier was a source of noise outside the chassis, how come it's
not doing anything to the signal inside the chassis?

I dont know??? I cant figure it out? Makes nosense to me either.

All I know is... With generic RCA cable = alt whine. Whine is
progressively louder the closer the cable is routed to the amp. Whine
is loudest when cable is routed on top of amp heatsink. Replace generic
cable with either phoenix or monster cable and whine is completely gone
regardless where cable is routed in proximity to the amp.

Puzzles me to this day.

Garrett



Mark Zarella wrote:

I replaced it with my dad's phoenix gold RCAs for a couple IASCA shows
and the problem was fixed. I settled with a monster cable interlink of
some sort, about a 35$ cable. Possible I got a bad cable from RS, but I
took it apart and re-flow'd the solder joints to no avail. Ive been
using it in my guitar rack for years and it sounds great with my high
gain tube rack pictured on right...



http://images.cardomain.com/member_i...68_59_full.jpg


I cant figure it out, but I'm glad I found a solution... :~)



If your amplifier was a source of noise outside the chassis, how come it's
not doing anything to the signal inside the chassis?

The break could have been farther down the cable, not in the end.


Paul Vina




"sanitarium" wrote in message
...
I replaced it with my dad's phoenix gold RCAs for a couple IASCA shows
and the problem was fixed. I settled with a monster cable interlink of
some sort, about a 35$ cable. Possible I got a bad cable from RS, but I
took it apart and re-flow'd the solder joints to no avail. Ive been
using it in my guitar rack for years and it sounds great with my high
gain tube rack pictured on right...

http://images.cardomain.com/member_i...68_59_full.jpg

I cant figure it out, but I'm glad I found a solution... :~)
Garrett

Paul Vina wrote:

Maybe the RS cable was damaged. If the shield was broken it'd do that.
Did
you try other RS rcas?


Paul Vina




"sanitarium" wrote in message
...


I am the only one on this NG who would recommend higher end RCAs. In my
accord with my Hifonics VIII Europa I was picking up alternator whine
through the RCA cables. At the time I was using radio shack generic
RCAs, the shielded black ones with the gold plugs @ the ends. Drove me
nuts... run the RCA within 1.5 feet of the amp and alt whine would
enter. It was progressive too, the closer the RCA was located to the
amp the louder the whine became. It made cable routing a pain.
Upgraded to high end cables and the whine stopped completely.

At the time I was an IASCA competitor, with the whine costing me about
10-12 Noise floor points.

Garrett

Psych-O-Delic Voodoo Thunder Pig wrote:



I'm upgrading my factory car stereo with a new headunit, speakers, and
amp/subwoofer. I'm trying to decide what RCA cables to use to go from


the


HU to the amp. The Streetwires Zero Noise twisted-pair style


interconnects


look interesting.

Cany anybody tell me their experiences with this style of cable, does
it
seem to be adequately shielded and does it have satisfactory noise
rejection?

thanks,

jp

True... I'm just glad to have found a use for it.

Garrett

Paul Vina wrote:

The break could have been farther down the cable, not in the end.


Paul Vina




"sanitarium" wrote in message
...


I replaced it with my dad's phoenix gold RCAs for a couple IASCA shows
and the problem was fixed. I settled with a monster cable interlink of
some sort, about a 35$ cable. Possible I got a bad cable from RS, but I
took it apart and re-flow'd the solder joints to no avail. Ive been
using it in my guitar rack for years and it sounds great with my high
gain tube rack pictured on right...



http://images.cardomain.com/member_i...68_59_full.jpg


I cant figure it out, but I'm glad I found a solution... :~)
Garrett

Paul Vina wrote:



Maybe the RS cable was damaged. If the shield was broken it'd do that.


Did


you try other RS rcas?


Paul Vina




"sanitarium" wrote in message
...




I am the only one on this NG who would recommend higher end RCAs. In my
accord with my Hifonics VIII Europa I was picking up alternator whine
through the RCA cables. At the time I was using radio shack generic
RCAs, the shielded black ones with the gold plugs @ the ends. Drove me
nuts... run the RCA within 1.5 feet of the amp and alt whine would
enter. It was progressive too, the closer the RCA was located to the
amp the louder the whine became. It made cable routing a pain.
Upgraded to high end cables and the whine stopped completely.

At the time I was an IASCA competitor, with the whine costing me about
10-12 Noise floor points.

Garrett

Psych-O-Delic Voodoo Thunder Pig wrote:





I'm upgrading my factory car stereo with a new headunit, speakers, and
amp/subwoofer. I'm trying to decide what RCA cables to use to go from




the




HU to the amp. The Streetwires Zero Noise twisted-pair style




interconnects




look interesting.

Cany anybody tell me their experiences with this style of cable, does


it


seem to be adequately shielded and does it have satisfactory noise
rejection?

thanks,

jp