I'm looking at getting a Yamaha 01V w/ adat card. But I'm wondering if I
need a digital mixer at all. What greater benefit do digital mixers have
over analog setups (apart from the obvious)? Any other model
recommendations, either analog or digital? Any help's appreciated. Thanks.

Jeff.

Jeff wrote:
I'm looking at getting a Yamaha 01V w/ adat card. But I'm wondering if I
need a digital mixer at all. What greater benefit do digital mixers have
over analog setups (apart from the obvious)? Any other model
recommendations, either analog or digital? Any help's appreciated. Thanks.

Go and mix on some consoles.

Pick the one that feels the best to you.

I find most of the digital consoles very irritating. They have a lot more
nifty functions per channel, but you have to page through goddamn menus to
get to them rather than just reaching for a knob. So it depends on what you
want to do.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

i used to use an old soundcraft series 1s, for anyone who knows what they're
like (ancient, big, tanks with a decent amount of play). as for flipping
through pages to alter eq's and such, i dont think i'd mind that...for me
that's the only noticeable drawback with mid-end digital mixers: no
knob-controlled eq. anything other than this though? cheers.

jeff


"Scott Dorsey" wrote in message
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Jeff wrote:
I'm looking at getting a Yamaha 01V w/ adat card. But I'm wondering if I
need a digital mixer at all. What greater benefit do digital mixers have
over analog setups (apart from the obvious)? Any other model
recommendations, either analog or digital? Any help's appreciated.
Thanks.

Go and mix on some consoles.

Pick the one that feels the best to you.

I find most of the digital consoles very irritating. They have a lot more
nifty functions per channel, but you have to page through goddamn menus to
get to them rather than just reaching for a knob. So it depends on what
you
want to do.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

"Jeff" wrote in message


I'm looking at getting a Yamaha 01V w/ adat card. But I'm wondering
if I need a digital mixer at all. What greater benefit do digital
mixers have over analog setups (apart from the obvious)? Any other
model recommendations, either analog or digital? Any help's
appreciated. Thanks.

Perhaps a more significant question is why do you need an external mixer at
all?

Given the flexibility and power of mixing on a computer, the only use I see
for external mixers is for sound reinforcement and monitoring. Oh, and they
can be a useful way to get a lot of mic preamps for a relatively low price.

"Scott Dorsey" wrote in message
...
I find most of the digital consoles very irritating. They have a lot more
nifty functions per channel, but you have to page through goddamn menus to
get to them rather than just reaching for a knob.

To me, if you can't work 90% of the time with your eyes closed, you might
just as well be using a mouse because you're mixing with your eyes rather
than with your ears.

--
Bob Olhsson Audio Mastery, Nashville TN
Mastering, Audio for Picture, Mix Evaluation and Quality Control
Over 40 years making people sound better than they ever imagined!
615.385.8051 http://www.hyperback.com

my sound card is decent, and able to operate w/ optical ins and outs, but
its preamp is mediocre, and i don't necessarily want to permanently record
and mix on my computer, that just seems the easiest for me right now. that
being said, i doubt i'll have a computer in the studio when i actually
record. the 01V seems to have enough package in a small size that i would
get some versatility out of it. correct me if i'm wrong.

jeff


"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
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"Jeff" wrote in message


I'm looking at getting a Yamaha 01V w/ adat card. But I'm wondering
if I need a digital mixer at all. What greater benefit do digital
mixers have over analog setups (apart from the obvious)? Any other
model recommendations, either analog or digital? Any help's
appreciated. Thanks.

Perhaps a more significant question is why do you need an external mixer
at
all?

Given the flexibility and power of mixing on a computer, the only use I
see
for external mixers is for sound reinforcement and monitoring. Oh, and
they
can be a useful way to get a lot of mic preamps for a relatively low
price.

"Arny Krueger"

Given the flexibility and power of mixing on a computer, the only use I
see
for external mixers is for sound reinforcement and monitoring.

Back in '85 did you ask everyone, why do you need a piano? Given the
flexibility and power of the DX-7, the only use I see for a real keyboard is in
church."

When people think they're using a tool that will replace all previous tools,
they've just become suckers to trend.

I'm gonna go listen to some Kajagoogoo now.

"Scott Dorsey" wrote in message
I find most of the digital consoles very irritating. They have a lot more
nifty functions per channel, but you have to page through goddamn menus to
get to them rather than just reaching for a knob. So it depends on what
you
want to do.

I have a Spirit 328 and am very happy with it. Except for the failing power
supply (it likes to randomly reboot) it is very easy to use, even in a live
situation. All the the knobs are where you need them and accessible with a
click of a button. Check it out at the Soundcraft site.

ojunk (Altasrecrd) wrote in message ...
"Arny Krueger"

Given the flexibility and power of mixing on a computer, the only use I
see
for external mixers is for sound reinforcement and monitoring.

Back in '85 did you ask everyone, why do you need a piano? Given the
flexibility and power of the DX-7, the only use I see for a real keyboard is in
church."

When people think they're using a tool that will replace all previous tools,
they've just become suckers to trend.

I'm gonna go listen to some Kajagoogoo now.

That was beautiful. tear

Jeff wrote:

i doubt i'll have a computer in the studio when i actually
record.

Just curious. What are you recording on? Your original post didn't say.

that i don't know...if i move my studio area to a new place, then it'll be
directly to my computer, if not, then likely to somethin basic (and possibly
analog): tape deck, MD, etc.

jeff

"agent86" wrote in message
.. .
Jeff wrote:

i doubt i'll have a computer in the studio when i actually
record.

Just curious. What are you recording on? Your original post didn't say.

Scott Dorsey wrote:

Jeff wrote:
I'm looking at getting a Yamaha 01V w/ adat card. But I'm wondering if I
need a digital mixer at all. What greater benefit do digital mixers have
over analog setups (apart from the obvious)? Any other model
recommendations, either analog or digital? Any help's appreciated. Thanks.

Go and mix on some consoles.

Pick the one that feels the best to you.

I find most of the digital consoles very irritating. They have a lot more
nifty functions per channel, but you have to page through goddamn menus to
get to them rather than just reaching for a knob.

Ahhhh - yes - so you actually *mix* as opposed to ( expletive deleted ) with the
sound. A man after my own heart. Hmmm does that sound quite right ?

So it depends on what you
want to do.

Yup.

Graham

that being analog sound vs. digital sound is all i meant by that.


"Pooh Bear" wrote in message
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Jeff wrote:

I'm looking at getting a Yamaha 01V w/ adat card. But I'm wondering if I
need a digital mixer at all. What greater benefit do digital mixers
have
over analog setups (apart from the obvious)?

I'm wondering which 'obvious(es) ' you had in mind ?

Graham

In article writes:

Jeff wrote:
What greater benefit do digital mixers have
over analog setups (apart from the obvious)?

I'm wondering which 'obvious(es) ' you had in mind ?

Me, too. I'm surprised at how much of the 'obvious' is missing from
the 01V. If you want a mixer - several inputs to two outputs - then I
guess it's OK once you learn how to get around on it, but if you want
a console - with lots of outputs (which should be obvious) - then it
doesn't make it in my book.



--
I'm really Mike Rivers )
However, until the spam goes away or Hell freezes over,
lots of IP addresses are blocked from this system. If
you e-mail me and it bounces, use your secret decoder ring
and reach me he double-m-eleven-double-zero at yahoo

Jeff wrote:
that being analog sound vs. digital sound is all i meant by that.

What is analogue sound?
What is digital sound?

Why not instead worry if it sounds _good_ or not?
--scott

--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

Amen!

Willow
"Scott Dorsey" wrote in message
...
Jeff wrote:
that being analog sound vs. digital sound is all i meant by that.

What is analogue sound?
What is digital sound?

Why not instead worry if it sounds _good_ or not?
--scott

--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

Jeff wrote:

that being analog sound vs. digital sound is all i meant by that.

I'm sorry - I don't understand shrugs .

Is one of them 'better' in your opinion ?

Graham

In article ,
Pooh Bear wrote:

Jeff wrote:

that being analog sound vs. digital sound is all i meant by that.

I'm sorry - I don't understand shrugs .

Is one of them 'better' in your opinion ?

Graham


unless it is coming via morse code isn't it all analouge?
george