After the take over of CoolEdit, what is a well-recommended software
tool for editing sound on a PC? I have been using Audacity, and
Goldwave. Goldwave has many more features than Audacity, although I
find it easier to use than Goldwave. What do people think of these
programs? Any other program that is recommended around here?

Thanks.
-Surinder

"SPS22" wrote in message
m...
After the take over of CoolEdit, what is a well-recommended software
tool for editing sound on a PC? I have been using Audacity, and
Goldwave. Goldwave has many more features than Audacity, although I
find it easier to use than Goldwave. What do people think of these
programs? Any other program that is recommended around here?

Thanks.
-Surinder

Cool Edit now Adobe Audition is still one of the finer tools for the PC
environment. Good price and good value.

Use what meets your needs, Cool Edit meets mine.



--
Remember:
Religion kills. Think before you believe.

"Martin" wrote in message ...
Cool Edit now Adobe Audition is still one of the finer tools for the PC
environment. Good price and good value.

Use what meets your needs, Cool Edit meets mine.

Any example of what can be done in CoolEdit, that is not doable in
Goldwave or Audacity?

-s

"SPS22" wrote in message
om
"Martin" wrote in message
...
Cool Edit now Adobe Audition is still one of the finer tools for the
PC environment. Good price and good value.

Use what meets your needs, Cool Edit meets mine.

Any example of what can be done in CoolEdit, that is not doable in
Goldwave or Audacity?

I'm not a Goldwave or Audacity expert, but how about you tell me how to do
something with either or both that is easy and obvious in CE?

My first need is to generate or record a 24 bit 1 KHz sine wave.

Then, I want to make a properly-dithered 16 bit version of it.

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
Any example of what can be done in CoolEdit, that is not doable in
Goldwave or Audacity?

I'm not a Goldwave or Audacity expert, but how about you tell me how to do
something with either or both that is easy and obvious in CE?

Well, I am essentially trying to convert cassettes to CD's. So I think
I need the following:

- Record from source
- Small edits like
* removal of some portion of song
* removal of some portion of song but
not disturb the cycle of the rythm
(Audacity seems more helpful than Goldwave
for this)
- Good hiss removal (Audacity & Goldwave hiss removal
makes the music worse, not better, for me.)
- Normalize volume of many .wav files to one level



surinder

"SPS22" wrote in message
m
"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
Any example of what can be done in CoolEdit, that is not doable in
Goldwave or Audacity?

I'm not a Goldwave or Audacity expert, but how about you tell me how
to do something with either or both that is easy and obvious in CE?

Well, I am essentially trying to convert cassettes to CD's. So I think
I need the following:

- Record from source
- Small edits like
* removal of some portion of song
* removal of some portion of song but
not disturb the cycle of the rhythm
(Audacity seems more helpful than Goldwave
for this)
- Good hiss removal (Audacity & Goldwave hiss removal
makes the music worse, not better, for me.)
- Normalize volume of many .wav files to one level

Other than the hiss removal, the two low end products you've mentioned seem
like they would do the job you need done. Those of us who use CoolEdit Pro -
Audition don't have much need for add-ins because these products have a
number of built-in hiss removal features.

Bear in mind that it is difficult or impossible to remove a great deal of
hiss without adversely affecting sound quality, no matter what hardware and
software is at your disposal.

"SPS22" wrote in message
m
"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
Any example of what can be done in CoolEdit, that is not doable in
Goldwave or Audacity?

I'm not a Goldwave or Audacity expert, but how about you tell me how
to do something with either or both that is easy and obvious in CE?

Well, I am essentially trying to convert cassettes to CD's. So I think
I need the following:

- Record from source
- Small edits like
* removal of some portion of song
* removal of some portion of song but
not disturb the cycle of the rhythm
(Audacity seems more helpful than Goldwave
for this)
- Good hiss removal (Audacity & Goldwave hiss removal
makes the music worse, not better, for me.)
- Normalize volume of many .wav files to one level

Other than the hiss removal, the two low end products you've mentioned seem
like they would do the job you need done. Those of us who use CoolEdit Pro -
Audition don't have much need for add-ins because these products have a
number of built-in hiss removal features.

Bear in mind that it is difficult or impossible to remove a great deal of
hiss without adversely affecting sound quality, no matter what hardware and
software is at your disposal.

"SPS22" wrote in message
m
"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
Any example of what can be done in CoolEdit, that is not doable in
Goldwave or Audacity?

I'm not a Goldwave or Audacity expert, but how about you tell me how
to do something with either or both that is easy and obvious in CE?

Well, I am essentially trying to convert cassettes to CD's. So I think
I need the following:

- Record from source
- Small edits like
* removal of some portion of song
* removal of some portion of song but
not disturb the cycle of the rhythm
(Audacity seems more helpful than Goldwave
for this)
- Good hiss removal (Audacity & Goldwave hiss removal
makes the music worse, not better, for me.)
- Normalize volume of many .wav files to one level

Other than the hiss removal, the two low end products you've mentioned seem
like they would do the job you need done. Those of us who use CoolEdit Pro -
Audition don't have much need for add-ins because these products have a
number of built-in hiss removal features.

Bear in mind that it is difficult or impossible to remove a great deal of
hiss without adversely affecting sound quality, no matter what hardware and
software is at your disposal.

"SPS22" wrote in message
m
"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
Any example of what can be done in CoolEdit, that is not doable in
Goldwave or Audacity?

I'm not a Goldwave or Audacity expert, but how about you tell me how
to do something with either or both that is easy and obvious in CE?

Well, I am essentially trying to convert cassettes to CD's. So I think
I need the following:

- Record from source
- Small edits like
* removal of some portion of song
* removal of some portion of song but
not disturb the cycle of the rhythm
(Audacity seems more helpful than Goldwave
for this)
- Good hiss removal (Audacity & Goldwave hiss removal
makes the music worse, not better, for me.)
- Normalize volume of many .wav files to one level

Other than the hiss removal, the two low end products you've mentioned seem
like they would do the job you need done. Those of us who use CoolEdit Pro -
Audition don't have much need for add-ins because these products have a
number of built-in hiss removal features.

Bear in mind that it is difficult or impossible to remove a great deal of
hiss without adversely affecting sound quality, no matter what hardware and
software is at your disposal.

On 16 Jan 2004 09:58:37 -0800, (SPS22) wrote:

Well, I am essentially trying to convert cassettes to CD's. So I think
I need the following:

- Record from source
- Small edits like
* removal of some portion of song
* removal of some portion of song but
not disturb the cycle of the rythm
(Audacity seems more helpful than Goldwave
for this)
- Good hiss removal (Audacity & Goldwave hiss removal
makes the music worse, not better, for me.)
- Normalize volume of many .wav files to one level

I'd keep hold of Audacity or GoldWave for general editing. I
personally prefer GoldWave, but others prefer Audacity.

Given your source is cassette tape, for hiss reduction you might want
to check out DCart, which has an interesting "dynamic noise filter"
which operates in a competely different way to the normal spectral
substitution methods you find in most other editors. It can be very
effective on "busy" music (but it pumps badly on simple acoustic
stuff).
--
Clive Backham

Note: As a spam avoidance measure, the email address in the header
is just a free one and doesn't get checked very often. If you want to email
me, my real address can be found at: www [dot] delback [dot] co [dot] uk

On 16 Jan 2004 09:58:37 -0800, (SPS22) wrote:

Well, I am essentially trying to convert cassettes to CD's. So I think
I need the following:

- Record from source
- Small edits like
* removal of some portion of song
* removal of some portion of song but
not disturb the cycle of the rythm
(Audacity seems more helpful than Goldwave
for this)
- Good hiss removal (Audacity & Goldwave hiss removal
makes the music worse, not better, for me.)
- Normalize volume of many .wav files to one level

I'd keep hold of Audacity or GoldWave for general editing. I
personally prefer GoldWave, but others prefer Audacity.

Given your source is cassette tape, for hiss reduction you might want
to check out DCart, which has an interesting "dynamic noise filter"
which operates in a competely different way to the normal spectral
substitution methods you find in most other editors. It can be very
effective on "busy" music (but it pumps badly on simple acoustic
stuff).
--
Clive Backham

Note: As a spam avoidance measure, the email address in the header
is just a free one and doesn't get checked very often. If you want to email
me, my real address can be found at: www [dot] delback [dot] co [dot] uk

On 16 Jan 2004 09:58:37 -0800, (SPS22) wrote:

Well, I am essentially trying to convert cassettes to CD's. So I think
I need the following:

- Record from source
- Small edits like
* removal of some portion of song
* removal of some portion of song but
not disturb the cycle of the rythm
(Audacity seems more helpful than Goldwave
for this)
- Good hiss removal (Audacity & Goldwave hiss removal
makes the music worse, not better, for me.)
- Normalize volume of many .wav files to one level

I'd keep hold of Audacity or GoldWave for general editing. I
personally prefer GoldWave, but others prefer Audacity.

Given your source is cassette tape, for hiss reduction you might want
to check out DCart, which has an interesting "dynamic noise filter"
which operates in a competely different way to the normal spectral
substitution methods you find in most other editors. It can be very
effective on "busy" music (but it pumps badly on simple acoustic
stuff).
--
Clive Backham

Note: As a spam avoidance measure, the email address in the header
is just a free one and doesn't get checked very often. If you want to email
me, my real address can be found at: www [dot] delback [dot] co [dot] uk

On 16 Jan 2004 09:58:37 -0800, (SPS22) wrote:

Well, I am essentially trying to convert cassettes to CD's. So I think
I need the following:

- Record from source
- Small edits like
* removal of some portion of song
* removal of some portion of song but
not disturb the cycle of the rythm
(Audacity seems more helpful than Goldwave
for this)
- Good hiss removal (Audacity & Goldwave hiss removal
makes the music worse, not better, for me.)
- Normalize volume of many .wav files to one level

I'd keep hold of Audacity or GoldWave for general editing. I
personally prefer GoldWave, but others prefer Audacity.

Given your source is cassette tape, for hiss reduction you might want
to check out DCart, which has an interesting "dynamic noise filter"
which operates in a competely different way to the normal spectral
substitution methods you find in most other editors. It can be very
effective on "busy" music (but it pumps badly on simple acoustic
stuff).
--
Clive Backham

Note: As a spam avoidance measure, the email address in the header
is just a free one and doesn't get checked very often. If you want to email
me, my real address can be found at: www [dot] delback [dot] co [dot] uk

SPS22 wrote:

Well, I am essentially trying to convert cassettes to CD's.

Presumably your own. Otherwise why bother...

So I think
I need the following:

- Record from source
- Small edits like
* removal of some portion of song
* removal of some portion of song but
not disturb the cycle of the rythm

Quality of the above totally up to your skills. any app...

- Good hiss removal (Audacity & Goldwave hiss removal
makes the music worse, not better, for me.)

All hiss removal is detrimental to the music to a degree. Some may be worse
than others.

- Normalize volume of many .wav files to one level

Not a big ask of any software.

geoff

SPS22 wrote:

Well, I am essentially trying to convert cassettes to CD's.

Presumably your own. Otherwise why bother...

So I think
I need the following:

- Record from source
- Small edits like
* removal of some portion of song
* removal of some portion of song but
not disturb the cycle of the rythm

Quality of the above totally up to your skills. any app...

- Good hiss removal (Audacity & Goldwave hiss removal
makes the music worse, not better, for me.)

All hiss removal is detrimental to the music to a degree. Some may be worse
than others.

- Normalize volume of many .wav files to one level

Not a big ask of any software.

geoff

SPS22 wrote:

Well, I am essentially trying to convert cassettes to CD's.

Presumably your own. Otherwise why bother...

So I think
I need the following:

- Record from source
- Small edits like
* removal of some portion of song
* removal of some portion of song but
not disturb the cycle of the rythm

Quality of the above totally up to your skills. any app...

- Good hiss removal (Audacity & Goldwave hiss removal
makes the music worse, not better, for me.)

All hiss removal is detrimental to the music to a degree. Some may be worse
than others.

- Normalize volume of many .wav files to one level

Not a big ask of any software.

geoff

SPS22 wrote:

Well, I am essentially trying to convert cassettes to CD's.

Presumably your own. Otherwise why bother...

So I think
I need the following:

- Record from source
- Small edits like
* removal of some portion of song
* removal of some portion of song but
not disturb the cycle of the rythm

Quality of the above totally up to your skills. any app...

- Good hiss removal (Audacity & Goldwave hiss removal
makes the music worse, not better, for me.)

All hiss removal is detrimental to the music to a degree. Some may be worse
than others.

- Normalize volume of many .wav files to one level

Not a big ask of any software.

geoff

"SPS22" wrote in message
m...
- Good hiss removal (Audacity & Goldwave hiss removal
makes the music worse, not better, for me.)

Yes, whenever I've tried to remove any high frequency noise in Goldwave it
causes side effects that are worse than the noise. I have not tried other
editors so I don't know if they are any better. But for low frequency noise
Goldwave works very well. I have a lot of recordings from stereo videotapes
with very annoying low frequency hums and noise where the music is quiet
with little bass. Goldwave usually removes it with no noticeable degradation
of the music.

David

"SPS22" wrote in message
m...
- Good hiss removal (Audacity & Goldwave hiss removal
makes the music worse, not better, for me.)

Yes, whenever I've tried to remove any high frequency noise in Goldwave it
causes side effects that are worse than the noise. I have not tried other
editors so I don't know if they are any better. But for low frequency noise
Goldwave works very well. I have a lot of recordings from stereo videotapes
with very annoying low frequency hums and noise where the music is quiet
with little bass. Goldwave usually removes it with no noticeable degradation
of the music.

David

"SPS22" wrote in message
m...
- Good hiss removal (Audacity & Goldwave hiss removal
makes the music worse, not better, for me.)

Yes, whenever I've tried to remove any high frequency noise in Goldwave it
causes side effects that are worse than the noise. I have not tried other
editors so I don't know if they are any better. But for low frequency noise
Goldwave works very well. I have a lot of recordings from stereo videotapes
with very annoying low frequency hums and noise where the music is quiet
with little bass. Goldwave usually removes it with no noticeable degradation
of the music.

David

"SPS22" wrote in message
m...
- Good hiss removal (Audacity & Goldwave hiss removal
makes the music worse, not better, for me.)

Yes, whenever I've tried to remove any high frequency noise in Goldwave it
causes side effects that are worse than the noise. I have not tried other
editors so I don't know if they are any better. But for low frequency noise
Goldwave works very well. I have a lot of recordings from stereo videotapes
with very annoying low frequency hums and noise where the music is quiet
with little bass. Goldwave usually removes it with no noticeable degradation
of the music.

David

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
Any example of what can be done in CoolEdit, that is not doable in
Goldwave or Audacity?

I'm not a Goldwave or Audacity expert, but how about you tell me how to do
something with either or both that is easy and obvious in CE?

Well, I am essentially trying to convert cassettes to CD's. So I think
I need the following:

- Record from source
- Small edits like
* removal of some portion of song
* removal of some portion of song but
not disturb the cycle of the rythm
(Audacity seems more helpful than Goldwave
for this)
- Good hiss removal (Audacity & Goldwave hiss removal
makes the music worse, not better, for me.)
- Normalize volume of many .wav files to one level



surinder

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
Any example of what can be done in CoolEdit, that is not doable in
Goldwave or Audacity?

I'm not a Goldwave or Audacity expert, but how about you tell me how to do
something with either or both that is easy and obvious in CE?

Well, I am essentially trying to convert cassettes to CD's. So I think
I need the following:

- Record from source
- Small edits like
* removal of some portion of song
* removal of some portion of song but
not disturb the cycle of the rythm
(Audacity seems more helpful than Goldwave
for this)
- Good hiss removal (Audacity & Goldwave hiss removal
makes the music worse, not better, for me.)
- Normalize volume of many .wav files to one level



surinder

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
Any example of what can be done in CoolEdit, that is not doable in
Goldwave or Audacity?

I'm not a Goldwave or Audacity expert, but how about you tell me how to do
something with either or both that is easy and obvious in CE?

Well, I am essentially trying to convert cassettes to CD's. So I think
I need the following:

- Record from source
- Small edits like
* removal of some portion of song
* removal of some portion of song but
not disturb the cycle of the rythm
(Audacity seems more helpful than Goldwave
for this)
- Good hiss removal (Audacity & Goldwave hiss removal
makes the music worse, not better, for me.)
- Normalize volume of many .wav files to one level



surinder

"SPS22" wrote in message
om
"Martin" wrote in message
...
Cool Edit now Adobe Audition is still one of the finer tools for the
PC environment. Good price and good value.

Use what meets your needs, Cool Edit meets mine.

Any example of what can be done in CoolEdit, that is not doable in
Goldwave or Audacity?

I'm not a Goldwave or Audacity expert, but how about you tell me how to do
something with either or both that is easy and obvious in CE?

My first need is to generate or record a 24 bit 1 KHz sine wave.

Then, I want to make a properly-dithered 16 bit version of it.

"SPS22" wrote in message
om
"Martin" wrote in message
...
Cool Edit now Adobe Audition is still one of the finer tools for the
PC environment. Good price and good value.

Use what meets your needs, Cool Edit meets mine.

Any example of what can be done in CoolEdit, that is not doable in
Goldwave or Audacity?

I'm not a Goldwave or Audacity expert, but how about you tell me how to do
something with either or both that is easy and obvious in CE?

My first need is to generate or record a 24 bit 1 KHz sine wave.

Then, I want to make a properly-dithered 16 bit version of it.

"SPS22" wrote in message
om
"Martin" wrote in message
...
Cool Edit now Adobe Audition is still one of the finer tools for the
PC environment. Good price and good value.

Use what meets your needs, Cool Edit meets mine.

Any example of what can be done in CoolEdit, that is not doable in
Goldwave or Audacity?

I'm not a Goldwave or Audacity expert, but how about you tell me how to do
something with either or both that is easy and obvious in CE?

My first need is to generate or record a 24 bit 1 KHz sine wave.

Then, I want to make a properly-dithered 16 bit version of it.

SPS22 wrote:

Any example of what can be done in CoolEdit, that is not doable in
Goldwave or Audacity?

Last I checked, you couldn't do single-sample editing easily in
Audacity, nor could you open up the vertical scale and then scroll it.

--
Len Moskowitz PDAudio, Binaural Mics, Cables, DPA, M-Audio
Core Sound http://www.stealthmicrophones.com
Teaneck, New Jersey USA http://www.core-sound.com
Tel: 201-801-0812, FAX: 201-801-0912

SPS22 wrote:

Any example of what can be done in CoolEdit, that is not doable in
Goldwave or Audacity?

Last I checked, you couldn't do single-sample editing easily in
Audacity, nor could you open up the vertical scale and then scroll it.

--
Len Moskowitz PDAudio, Binaural Mics, Cables, DPA, M-Audio
Core Sound http://www.stealthmicrophones.com
Teaneck, New Jersey USA http://www.core-sound.com
Tel: 201-801-0812, FAX: 201-801-0912

SPS22 wrote:

Any example of what can be done in CoolEdit, that is not doable in
Goldwave or Audacity?

Last I checked, you couldn't do single-sample editing easily in
Audacity, nor could you open up the vertical scale and then scroll it.

--
Len Moskowitz PDAudio, Binaural Mics, Cables, DPA, M-Audio
Core Sound http://www.stealthmicrophones.com
Teaneck, New Jersey USA http://www.core-sound.com
Tel: 201-801-0812, FAX: 201-801-0912

SPS22 wrote:

Any example of what can be done in CoolEdit, that is not doable in
Goldwave or Audacity?

Last I checked, you couldn't do single-sample editing easily in
Audacity, nor could you open up the vertical scale and then scroll it.

--
Len Moskowitz PDAudio, Binaural Mics, Cables, DPA, M-Audio
Core Sound http://www.stealthmicrophones.com
Teaneck, New Jersey USA http://www.core-sound.com
Tel: 201-801-0812, FAX: 201-801-0912

"Martin" wrote in message ...
Cool Edit now Adobe Audition is still one of the finer tools for the PC
environment. Good price and good value.

Use what meets your needs, Cool Edit meets mine.

Any example of what can be done in CoolEdit, that is not doable in
Goldwave or Audacity?

-s

"Martin" wrote in message ...
Cool Edit now Adobe Audition is still one of the finer tools for the PC
environment. Good price and good value.

Use what meets your needs, Cool Edit meets mine.

Any example of what can be done in CoolEdit, that is not doable in
Goldwave or Audacity?

-s

"Martin" wrote in message ...
Cool Edit now Adobe Audition is still one of the finer tools for the PC
environment. Good price and good value.

Use what meets your needs, Cool Edit meets mine.

Any example of what can be done in CoolEdit, that is not doable in
Goldwave or Audacity?

-s

"SPS22" wrote in message
m...
After the take over of CoolEdit, what is a well-recommended software
tool for editing sound on a PC? I have been using Audacity, and
Goldwave. Goldwave has many more features than Audacity, although I
find it easier to use than Goldwave. What do people think of these
programs? Any other program that is recommended around here?

Thanks.
-Surinder

Cool Edit now Adobe Audition is still one of the finer tools for the PC
environment. Good price and good value.

Use what meets your needs, Cool Edit meets mine.



--
Remember:
Religion kills. Think before you believe.

"SPS22" wrote in message
m...
After the take over of CoolEdit, what is a well-recommended software
tool for editing sound on a PC? I have been using Audacity, and
Goldwave. Goldwave has many more features than Audacity, although I
find it easier to use than Goldwave. What do people think of these
programs? Any other program that is recommended around here?

Thanks.
-Surinder

Cool Edit now Adobe Audition is still one of the finer tools for the PC
environment. Good price and good value.

Use what meets your needs, Cool Edit meets mine.



--
Remember:
Religion kills. Think before you believe.

"SPS22" wrote in message
m...
After the take over of CoolEdit, what is a well-recommended software
tool for editing sound on a PC? I have been using Audacity, and
Goldwave. Goldwave has many more features than Audacity, although I
find it easier to use than Goldwave. What do people think of these
programs? Any other program that is recommended around here?

Thanks.
-Surinder

Cool Edit now Adobe Audition is still one of the finer tools for the PC
environment. Good price and good value.

Use what meets your needs, Cool Edit meets mine.



--
Remember:
Religion kills. Think before you believe.

"SPS22" wrote in message
m

After the take over of CoolEdit, what is a well-recommended software
tool for editing sound on a PC?

CoolEdit is now known as Adobe Audacity. By all accounts, the Adobe
take-over of CoolEdit did not hurt it appreciably.

I have been using Audacity, and Goldwave. Goldwave has many more features
than Audacity, although I
find it easier to use than Goldwave. What do people think of these
programs?

Audacity and Goldwave are relatively simplistic programs compared to
Audacity. They work, and are fine tools for what they do, but there's a
world of things that they don't do. If you don't need the power of Audacity,
then these simpler tools are just fine.

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message


"SPS22" wrote in message
m

After the take over of CoolEdit, what is a well-recommended software
tool for editing sound on a PC?

correction:

CoolEdit is now known as Adobe Audition. By all accounts, the Adobe
take-over of CoolEdit did not hurt it appreciably.

I have been using Audacity, and Goldwave. Goldwave has many more
features than Audacity, although I find it easier to use than
Goldwave. What do people think of these programs?

Audacity and Goldwave are relatively simplistic programs compared to
Audition. They work well for the limited number of things they do, and are
fine tools for what they do, but there's
a world of things that they don't do. If you don't need the power of
Audition, then these simpler tools are just fine.

"Arny Krueger" wrote ...
correction:

CoolEdit is now known as Adobe Audition. By all accounts,
the Adobe take-over of CoolEdit did not hurt it appreciably.

Correction Correction:

CoolEdit *PRO* is now known as adobe Audition. As a user
of both, I agree that, CE*P* did not suffer from the transition.

HOWEVER, CoolEdit2000 (the low-cost 2-track version)
suffered the ultimate fate (eternal death) at the hands
of Adobe. For those that don't need 128 channels,
CE2K was the best value/money out there. Now dearly
departed thanks to Adobe (who only believe in high-
end wares.)