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Voter suppression efforts
Laughlin McDonald, who leads the ACLU's Voting Rights Project, said he has never seen "an election where there was more interest and more voter turnout, and more efforts to suppress registration and turnout. And that has a real impact on minorities." In Nevada, for example, Latino voters said they had received calls from people describing themselves as Obama volunteers, urging them to cast their ballot over the phone. "The Voting Rights Act makes it a crime to misled (sic) and intimidate voters," said McDonald. "If you can find out who's doing it, those people should be prosecuted. But sometimes it's just difficult to know who's doing what. Some of it's just anonymous." http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27508967/ In order to protect the integrity of Ohio's elections, the American Civil Liberties Union today called on the Ohio Republican Party to stop intimidating lawful voters. On Wednesday, the party asked all of the state's 88 county Boards of Elections to hand over information about all newly registered voters and those who have legally registered and cast an absentee ballot on the same day. These records will likely be used to challenge innocent voters, according to the ACLU. http://www.aclu.org/votingrights/gen...s20081016.html And you wondered about the legal basis: (b) Intimidation, threats, or coercion No person, whether acting under color of law or otherwise, shall intimidate, threaten, coerce, or attempt to intimidate, threaten, or coerce any other person for the purpose of interfering with the right of such other person to vote or to vote as he may choose, or of causing such other person to vote for, or not to vote for, any candidate for the office of President, Vice President, presidential elector, Member of the Senate, or Member of the House of Representatives, Delegates or Commissioners from the Territories or possessions, at any general, special, or primary election held solely or in part for the purpose of selecting or electing any such candidate. http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/42/1971.html In this election season, the Republican Party has stepped up its efforts to restrict the franchise around the country, intimidating voters, purging voter rolls, filing dubious claims in court. (Occasionally, Democrats also get caught in acts of voter suppression, but that’s rare. Democrats usually win elections when more people vote, not fewer.) The GOP’s brand is in tatters, dragged down by an incompetent president, an unpopular war and a sickly economy. So the party seems to be pinning its hopes on keeping likely Democrats — people of color, the poor, college students — away from the polls. http://www.daily-chronicle.com/artic...9813732811.txt On Oct. 29, Colorado's Republican secretary of state, Mike Coffman, agreed to give as many as 30,000 purged voters provisional ballots to settle litigation charging that he had illegally removed the names from the rolls. These ballots must also be counted and Coffman, who himself is running for Congress, is required to notify the plaintiffs of any that are deemed invalid. At an emergency hearing convened yesterday by a federal judge in Denver, Coffman was ordered to stop purging more voters. Common Cause of Colorado, which brought the case, sought the hearing after Coffman was quoted in yesterday's Rocky Mountain News as saying the settlement didn't prevent him from continuing to purge voters. http://news.yahoo.com/s/bloomberg/20...g/aesbq2ebsyxi The Alabama Republican Party opposes a drive to register inmates to vote so they can cast absentee ballots from inside state prisons, with the state GOP chief saying Thursday there needs to be safeguards against voter fraud. http://www.uslaw.com/library/Crimina...hp?item=241104 Yes, Clyde, your ACORN concerns far outweigh the hard evidence that your team is just playing some 'dirty tricks'. Note the specter of 'voter fraud' rearing its ugly head again. I'm sure that they're reallt concerned about inmates having access to fake IDs. LOL! |
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On 3 Noi, 16:20, "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"
wrote: Voter suppression efforts Laughlin McDonald, who leads the ACLU's Voting Rights Project, said he has never seen "an election where there was more interest and more voter turnout, and more efforts to suppress registration and turnout. And that has a real impact on minorities." In Nevada, for example, Latino voters said they had received calls from people describing themselves as Obama volunteers, urging them to cast their ballot over the phone. "The Voting Rights Act makes it a crime to misled (sic) and intimidate voters," said McDonald. "If you can find out who's doing it, those people should be prosecuted. But sometimes it's just difficult to know who's doing what. Some of it's just anonymous." http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27508967/ In order to protect the integrity of Ohio's elections, the American Civil Liberties Union today called on the Ohio Republican Party to stop intimidating lawful voters. On Wednesday, the party asked all of the state's 88 county Boards of Elections to hand over information about all newly registered voters and those who have legally registered and cast an absentee ballot on the same day. These records will likely be used to challenge innocent voters, according to the ACLU. http://www.aclu.org/votingrights/gen...s20081016.html And you wondered about the legal basis: (b) Intimidation, threats, or coercion No person, whether acting under color of law or otherwise, shall intimidate, threaten, coerce, or attempt to intimidate, threaten, or coerce any other person for the purpose of interfering with the right of such other person to vote or to vote as he may choose, or of causing such other person to vote for, or not to vote for, any candidate for the office of President, Vice President, presidential elector, Member of the Senate, or Member of the House of Representatives, Delegates or Commissioners from the Territories or possessions, at any general, special, or primary election held solely or in part for the purpose of selecting or electing any such candidate. http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/42/1971.html In this election season, the Republican Party has stepped up its efforts to restrict the franchise around the country, intimidating voters, purging voter rolls, filing dubious claims in court. (Occasionally, Democrats also get caught in acts of voter suppression, but that’s rare. Democrats usually win elections when more people vote, not fewer.) The GOP’s brand is in tatters, dragged down by an incompetent president, an unpopular war and a sickly economy. So the party seems to be pinning its hopes on keeping likely Democrats — people of color, the poor, college students — away from the polls. http://www.daily-chronicle.com/artic...ions/national_... On Oct. 29, Colorado's Republican secretary of state, Mike Coffman, agreed to give as many as 30,000 purged voters provisional ballots to settle litigation charging that he had illegally removed the names from the rolls. These ballots must also be counted and Coffman, who himself is running for Congress, is required to notify the plaintiffs of any that are deemed invalid. At an emergency hearing convened yesterday by a federal judge in Denver, Coffman was ordered to stop purging more voters. Common Cause of Colorado, which brought the case, sought the hearing after Coffman was quoted in yesterday's Rocky Mountain News as saying the settlement didn't prevent him from continuing to purge voters. http://news.yahoo.com/s/bloomberg/20...g/aesbq2ebsyxi The Alabama Republican Party opposes a drive to register inmates to vote so they can cast absentee ballots from inside state prisons, with the state GOP chief saying Thursday there needs to be safeguards against voter fraud. http://www.uslaw.com/library/Crimina...ion_Halts_Hist... Yes, Clyde, your ACORN concerns far outweigh the hard evidence that your team is just playing some 'dirty tricks'. Note the specter of 'voter fraud' rearing its ugly head again. I'm sure that they're reallt concerned about inmates having access to fake IDs. LOL! as an election monitor, you do know that you have the right to challenge ballots suspected of being erroneous, fraudulent, etc. I am sure that you would not want to supress the right of' either party to make such challenges. |
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On Nov 3, 4:07*pm, Clyde Slick wrote:
On 3 Noi, 16:20, "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!" wrote: Voter suppression efforts Laughlin McDonald, who leads the ACLU's Voting Rights Project, said he has never seen "an election where there was more interest and more voter turnout, and more efforts to suppress registration and turnout. And that has a real impact on minorities." In Nevada, for example, Latino voters said they had received calls from people describing themselves as Obama volunteers, urging them to cast their ballot over the phone. "The Voting Rights Act makes it a crime to misled (sic) and intimidate voters," said McDonald. "If you can find out who's doing it, those people should be prosecuted. But sometimes it's just difficult to know who's doing what. Some of it's just anonymous." http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27508967/ In order to protect the integrity of Ohio's elections, the American Civil Liberties Union today called on the Ohio Republican Party to stop intimidating lawful voters. On Wednesday, the party asked all of the state's 88 county Boards of Elections to hand over information about all newly registered voters and those who have legally registered and cast an absentee ballot on the same day. These records will likely be used to challenge innocent voters, according to the ACLU. http://www.aclu.org/votingrights/gen...s20081016.html And you wondered about the legal basis: (b) Intimidation, threats, or coercion No person, whether acting under color of law or otherwise, shall intimidate, threaten, coerce, or attempt to intimidate, threaten, or coerce any other person for the purpose of interfering with the right of such other person to vote or to vote as he may choose, or of causing such other person to vote for, or not to vote for, any candidate for the office of President, Vice President, presidential elector, Member of the Senate, or Member of the House of Representatives, Delegates or Commissioners from the Territories or possessions, at any general, special, or primary election held solely or in part for the purpose of selecting or electing any such candidate. http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/42/1971.html In this election season, the Republican Party has stepped up its efforts to restrict the franchise around the country, intimidating voters, purging voter rolls, filing dubious claims in court. (Occasionally, Democrats also get caught in acts of voter suppression, but that’s rare. Democrats usually win elections when more people vote, not fewer.) The GOP’s brand is in tatters, dragged down by an incompetent president, an unpopular war and a sickly economy. So the party seems to be pinning its hopes on keeping likely Democrats — people of color, the poor, college students — away from the polls. http://www.daily-chronicle.com/artic...ions/national_... On Oct. 29, Colorado's Republican secretary of state, Mike Coffman, agreed to give as many as 30,000 purged voters provisional ballots to settle litigation charging that he had illegally removed the names from the rolls. These ballots must also be counted and Coffman, who himself is running for Congress, is required to notify the plaintiffs of any that are deemed invalid. At an emergency hearing convened yesterday by a federal judge in Denver, Coffman was ordered to stop purging more voters. Common Cause of Colorado, which brought the case, sought the hearing after Coffman was quoted in yesterday's Rocky Mountain News as saying the settlement didn't prevent him from continuing to purge voters. http://news.yahoo.com/s/bloomberg/20...g/aesbq2ebsyxi The Alabama Republican Party opposes a drive to register inmates to vote so they can cast absentee ballots from inside state prisons, with the state GOP chief saying Thursday there needs to be safeguards against voter fraud. http://www.uslaw.com/library/Crimina...ion_Halts_Hist... Yes, Clyde, your ACORN concerns far outweigh the hard evidence that your team is just playing some 'dirty tricks'. Note the specter of 'voter fraud' rearing its ugly head again. I'm sure that they're reallt concerned about inmates having access to fake IDs. LOL! as an election monitor, you do know that you have the right to challenge ballots suspected of being erroneous, fraudulent, etc. In this state, anyway, such challenges must be made based on the first- hand knowledge of the challenger. Caging, for example, is illegal here. So is challenging, for example, based on a voter's accent or appearance. Blanket challenges ("Gimme all of the voters who have registered since 2006.") is as well. I have no problem with legitimate challenges. What the republicans tend to do is to make blanket challenges, make caging lists, place insufficient voting equipment to force long (and discouraging) lines, and other underhanded (and often illegal) techniques to suppress the vote, and (surprise!) usually in areas that trend Democrat. Low voter turnout is their goal, as proven by the Weyrich quote that Jenn provided. I'm surprised that 2pid isn't all over this lack of integrity on the part of republicans. I am sure that you would not want to supress the right of' either party to make such challenges. Illegitimate blanket challenges? Intimidation? Improperly purging voter registrations? Caging lists? Forcing long lines at the polls? Spreading misinformation to intimidate or to discourage voters? I absolutely want to suppress such "practical jokes". I would presume that you do too. Or perhaps not because it is usually your guys doing it. BTW, I will not be challenging anybody. I will simply be on the lookout for republican "dirty tricks" and "practical jokes". I will be in an area that trends Democrat and has a large minority population. Hopefiully I'll have a boring and uneventful (but long) day. I'm bringing a book just in case it is. |
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On 3 Noi, 18:05, "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"
wrote: On Nov 3, 4:07*pm, Clyde Slick wrote: On 3 Noi, 16:20, "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!" wrote: Voter suppression efforts Laughlin McDonald, who leads the ACLU's Voting Rights Project, said he has never seen "an election where there was more interest and more voter turnout, and more efforts to suppress registration and turnout. And that has a real impact on minorities." In Nevada, for example, Latino voters said they had received calls from people describing themselves as Obama volunteers, urging them to cast their ballot over the phone. "The Voting Rights Act makes it a crime to misled (sic) and intimidate voters," said McDonald. "If you can find out who's doing it, those people should be prosecuted. But sometimes it's just difficult to know who's doing what. Some of it's just anonymous." http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27508967/ In order to protect the integrity of Ohio's elections, the American Civil Liberties Union today called on the Ohio Republican Party to stop intimidating lawful voters. On Wednesday, the party asked all of the state's 88 county Boards of Elections to hand over information about all newly registered voters and those who have legally registered and cast an absentee ballot on the same day. These records will likely be used to challenge innocent voters, according to the ACLU. http://www.aclu.org/votingrights/gen...s20081016.html And you wondered about the legal basis: (b) Intimidation, threats, or coercion No person, whether acting under color of law or otherwise, shall intimidate, threaten, coerce, or attempt to intimidate, threaten, or coerce any other person for the purpose of interfering with the right of such other person to vote or to vote as he may choose, or of causing such other person to vote for, or not to vote for, any candidate for the office of President, Vice President, presidential elector, Member of the Senate, or Member of the House of Representatives, Delegates or Commissioners from the Territories or possessions, at any general, special, or primary election held solely or in part for the purpose of selecting or electing any such candidate. http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/42/1971.html In this election season, the Republican Party has stepped up its efforts to restrict the franchise around the country, intimidating voters, purging voter rolls, filing dubious claims in court. (Occasionally, Democrats also get caught in acts of voter suppression, but that’s rare. Democrats usually win elections when more people vote, not fewer.) The GOP’s brand is in tatters, dragged down by an incompetent president, an unpopular war and a sickly economy. So the party seems to be pinning its hopes on keeping likely Democrats — people of color, the poor, college students — away from the polls. http://www.daily-chronicle.com/artic...ions/national_.... On Oct. 29, Colorado's Republican secretary of state, Mike Coffman, agreed to give as many as 30,000 purged voters provisional ballots to settle litigation charging that he had illegally removed the names from the rolls. These ballots must also be counted and Coffman, who himself is running for Congress, is required to notify the plaintiffs of any that are deemed invalid. At an emergency hearing convened yesterday by a federal judge in Denver, Coffman was ordered to stop purging more voters. Common Cause of Colorado, which brought the case, sought the hearing after Coffman was quoted in yesterday's Rocky Mountain News as saying the settlement didn't prevent him from continuing to purge voters. http://news.yahoo.com/s/bloomberg/20...g/aesbq2ebsyxi The Alabama Republican Party opposes a drive to register inmates to vote so they can cast absentee ballots from inside state prisons, with the state GOP chief saying Thursday there needs to be safeguards against voter fraud. http://www.uslaw.com/library/Crimina...ion_Halts_Hist.... Yes, Clyde, your ACORN concerns far outweigh the hard evidence that your team is just playing some 'dirty tricks'. Note the specter of 'voter fraud' rearing its ugly head again. I'm sure that they're reallt concerned about inmates having access to fake IDs. LOL! as an election monitor, you do know that you have the right to challenge ballots suspected of being erroneous, fraudulent, etc. In this state, anyway, such challenges must be made based on the first- hand knowledge of the challenger. Caging, for example, is illegal here. So is challenging, for example, based on a voter's accent or appearance. Blanket challenges ("Gimme all of the voters who have registered since 2006.") is as well. I have no problem with legitimate challenges. What the republicans tend to do is to make blanket challenges, make caging lists, place insufficient voting equipment to force long (and discouraging) lines, and other underhanded (and often illegal) techniques to suppress the vote, and (surprise!) usually in areas that trend Democrat. Low voter turnout is their goal, as proven by the Weyrich quote that Jenn provided. I'm surprised that 2pid isn't all over this lack of integrity on the part of republicans. I am sure that you would not want to supress the right of' either party to make such challenges. Illegitimate blanket challenges? Intimidation? Improperly purging voter registrations? Caging lists? Forcing long lines at the polls? Spreading misinformation to intimidate or to discourage voters? I absolutely want to suppress such "practical jokes". I would presume that you do too. Or perhaps not because it is usually your guys doing it. BTW, I will not be challenging anybody. I will simply be on the lookout for republican "dirty tricks" and "practical jokes". I will be in an area that trends Democrat and has a large minority population. Hopefiully I'll have a boring and uneventful (but long) day. I'm bringing a book just in case it is.- http://www.amazon.com/Sarah-Palin-Re...5769033&sr=1-5 BTW, I finally jumped of the undecided fence and made a selection for my Presidential vote. I decided to follow the precepts espoused by duh Mikey's [hilosophical heroe, Ayn Rand. Following her principles to the "t" Iam castiing my vote for Barak Obama. How is that possible?. Rand espouses following one's rational self interest. My self interest is in realizing Obama's plan to fix the econmy by investing massive amounts in government infrastructure projuects. As I earn my living working on such projects. this is what is best for Clyde Slick. Long live Ayn rand and Al Franken, they both got it right!!! philo |
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On Nov 3, 9:33*pm, Clyde Slick wrote:
On 3 Noi, 18:05, "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!" Hopefiully I'll have a boring and uneventful (but long) day. I'm bringing a book just in case it is.- http://www.amazon.com/Sarah-Palin-Re...1593791011/ref... LOL! Well, that *is* a book. It's not the one I'll be reading though. I'm reading a history of Rommel's leadership and tactical techniques right now. BTW, I finally jumped of the undecided fence and made a selection for my Presidential vote. I decided to follow the precepts espoused by duh Mikey's [hilosophical heroe, Ayn Rand. Following her principles to the "t" Iam castiing my vote for Barak Obama. How is that possible?. Rand espouses following one's rational self interest. My self interest is in realizing Obama's plan to fix the econmy by investing massive amounts in government infrastructure projuects. As I earn my living working on such projects. this is what is best for Clyde Slick. Long live Ayn rand and Al Franken, they both got it right!!! You can come up with the right answer to the wrong question. :-) |
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Shhhh! said: I'm reading a history of Rommel's leadership and tactical techniques right now. Did the Army give you a reading list for your colonel exam? |
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On Nov 3, 10:27*pm, George M. Middius
wrote: Shhhh! said: I'm reading a history of Rommel's leadership and tactical techniques right now. Did the Army give you a reading list for your colonel exam? There is one a recommended reading list from the Chied of Staff's office, but this is a book I found in a used bookstore. There is no "exam" for promotion. |
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Shhhh! said: I'm reading a history of Rommel's leadership and tactical techniques right now. Did the Army give you a reading list for your colonel exam? There is one a recommended reading list from the Chied of Staff's office, but this is a book I found in a used bookstore. There is no "exam" for promotion. Really? I imagine the Army has some Scottie-quality officers then. |
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On Nov 3, 11:25*pm, George M. Middius
wrote: Shhhh! said: I'm reading a history of Rommel's leadership and tactical techniques right now. Did the Army give you a reading list for your colonel exam? There is one a recommended reading list from the Chied of Staff's office, but this is a book I found in a used bookstore. There is no "exam" for promotion. Really? I imagine the Army has some Scottie-quality officers then. Not many. You are rated on several qualities. People like 2pid would not get promoted. Passed over twice, you're out. 2pid would likely mot make captain. Here is where 2pid would fall flat on his face: http://www.armystudyguide.com/conten...n-record.shtml I just met a new airborne/air assault-qualified enlisted soldier tonight. When I told him I was being called back in, he begged me to come back into his unit. "We need officers like you" he said. Poor 2pid wouldn't understand why, but that soldier knew *exactly* why. LOL! |
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Shhhh! said: Really? I imagine the Army has some Scottie-quality officers then. Not many. You are rated on several qualities. People like 2pid would not get promoted. Passed over twice, you're out. 2pid would likely mot make captain. Did you see the recent HBO mini about the invasion of Iraq? They followed a Marine unit for a week or so. The unit was saddled with two Capt. Scotties. The show played their incompetence mostly for laughs, but ever since "Catch 22", stories like that automatically have some credibility. |
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On Nov 4, 8:33*am, George M. Middius wrote:
Shhhh! said: Really? I imagine the Army has some Scottie-quality officers then. Not many. You are rated on several qualities. People like 2pid would not get promoted. Passed over twice, you're out. 2pid would likely mot make captain. Did you see the recent HBO mini about the invasion of Iraq? They followed a Marine unit for a week or so. The unit was saddled with two Capt. Scotties. The show played their incompetence mostly for laughs, but ever since "Catch 22", stories like that automatically have some credibility. 2pid would either be Lt. Schiesskopf or General Peckem, the one concerned about tight bomb patterns. |
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On 5 Noi, 05:11, "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"
wrote: On Nov 4, 8:33*am, George M. Middius wrote: Shhhh! said: Really? I imagine the Army has some Scottie-quality officers then. Not many. You are rated on several qualities. People like 2pid would not get promoted. Passed over twice, you're out. 2pid would likely mot make captain. Did you see the recent HBO mini about the invasion of Iraq? They followed a Marine unit for a week or so. The unit was saddled with two Capt. Scotties. The show played their incompetence mostly for laughs, but ever since "Catch 22", stories like that automatically have some credibility. 2pid would either be Lt. Schiesskopf or General Peckem, the one concerned about tight bomb patterns. was there a Lt "Scheisskopf" in the book??? I don't remember him. |
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, Clyde Slick wrote: On 5 Noi, 05:11, "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!" wrote: On Nov 4, 8:33*am, George M. Middius wrote: Shhhh! said: Really? I imagine the Army has some Scottie-quality officers then. Not many. You are rated on several qualities. People like 2pid would not get promoted. Passed over twice, you're out. 2pid would likely mot make captain. Did you see the recent HBO mini about the invasion of Iraq? They followed a Marine unit for a week or so. The unit was saddled with two Capt. Scotties. The show played their incompetence mostly for laughs, but ever since "Catch 22", stories like that automatically have some credibility. 2pid would either be Lt. Schiesskopf or General Peckem, the one concerned about tight bomb patterns. was there a Lt "Scheisskopf" in the book??? I don't remember him. His parade-organizing ability gets him promoted. Lieutenant Engle refers to him with an Anglicization of his name. IIRC, there's capitalization involved. Stephen |
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MiNe 109 said: was there a Lt "Scheisskopf" in the book??? I don't remember him. Lieutenant Engle refers to him with an Anglicization of his name. IIRC, there's capitalization involved. Scottie "knows" that a coward like Heller would never be allowed to serve today. Plus he was a dirty Jew and could never be trusted to bomb Israel if ordered to. I wonder what Scottie takes for a hangover.... |
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On Nov 5, 7:41*am, Clyde Slick wrote:
On 5 Noi, 05:11, "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!" wrote: On Nov 4, 8:33*am, George M. Middius wrote: Shhhh! said: Really? I imagine the Army has some Scottie-quality officers then.. Not many. You are rated on several qualities. People like 2pid would not get promoted. Passed over twice, you're out. 2pid would likely mot make captain. Did you see the recent HBO mini about the invasion of Iraq? They followed a Marine unit for a week or so. The unit was saddled with two Capt. Scotties. The show played their incompetence mostly for laughs, but ever since "Catch 22", stories like that automatically have some credibility. 2pid would either be Lt. Schiesskopf or General Peckem, the one concerned about tight bomb patterns. was there a Lt "Scheisskopf" in the book??? I don't remember him. He later becomes General Schiesskopf. |
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