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M-Audiophile 24/96 vs USB cards for prosumer soundcard choice
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I have heard for a long time that the M-Audiophile 24/96 is the best buy for a prosumer DAW...but lately I have seen so many USB soundcard options... Is there an inherent weakness or reason to go PCI card and not USB soundcard? If not...is there a value priced USB card that delivers similar quality and features when compared to the M-Audio 24/96? I mainly use CubaseSX (considering switching to Nuendo2) for vocal recording and Midi keyboard recording. Love, Me |
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M-Audiophile 24/96 vs USB cards for prosumer soundcard choice
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I have heard for a long time that the M-Audiophile 24/96 is the best buy for a prosumer DAW...but lately I have seen so many USB soundcard options... Is there an inherent weakness or reason to go PCI card and not USB soundcard? Yes, most currently-available USB soundcards are limited to the USB 1.1 interface, which lacks the data rate required to reliably handle more than few channels, and low bitrates. There are now a few USB 2.0 and/or Firewire audio interfaces. But they all make cards like the AP 2496 and Echo Mia (my recommended alternative for audio production) look pretty attractive on economic grounds if relatively simple cards like these will suit your needs. |
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M-Audiophile 24/96 vs USB cards for prosumer soundcard choice
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I have heard for a long time that the M-Audiophile 24/96 is the best buy for a prosumer DAW...but lately I have seen so many USB soundcard options... Is there an inherent weakness or reason to go PCI card and not USB soundcard? Yes, most currently-available USB soundcards are limited to the USB 1.1 interface, which lacks the data rate required to reliably handle more than few channels, and low bitrates. There are now a few USB 2.0 and/or Firewire audio interfaces. But they all make cards like the AP 2496 and Echo Mia (my recommended alternative for audio production) look pretty attractive on economic grounds if relatively simple cards like these will suit your needs. |
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M-AP 2496 vs Echo Mia - comparison somewhere?
Do you have a chart or resource that compares the Echo Mia with the
AP2496? In article , says... wrote in message I have heard for a long time that the M-Audiophile 24/96 is the best buy for a prosumer DAW...but lately I have seen so many USB soundcard options... Is there an inherent weakness or reason to go PCI card and not USB soundcard? Yes, most currently-available USB soundcards are limited to the USB 1.1 interface, which lacks the data rate required to reliably handle more than few channels, and low bitrates. There are now a few USB 2.0 and/or Firewire audio interfaces. But they all make cards like the AP 2496 and Echo Mia (my recommended alternative for audio production) look pretty attractive on economic grounds if relatively simple cards like these will suit your needs. |
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M-AP 2496 vs Echo Mia - comparison somewhere?
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Do you have a chart or resource that compares the Echo Mia with the AP2496? http://audio.rightmark.org/test/mia/echo-mia-1644.html http://audio.rightmark.org/test/mia/echo-mia-2496.html versus: http://audio.rightmark.org/rus/test/...iophile-1644.h tml http://audio.rightmark.org/rus/test/...iophile-2496.h tml At 1644 they both come pretty close to the limits of the format, while at 24/96 tests show some differences. I don't see any data at 24/44 or 24/48 but my own casual tests show these are the data formats where the Mia really shows an advantage. |
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M-AP 2496 vs Echo Mia - comparison somewhere?
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Do you have a chart or resource that compares the Echo Mia with the AP2496? http://audio.rightmark.org/test/mia/echo-mia-1644.html http://audio.rightmark.org/test/mia/echo-mia-2496.html versus: http://audio.rightmark.org/rus/test/...iophile-1644.h tml http://audio.rightmark.org/rus/test/...iophile-2496.h tml At 1644 they both come pretty close to the limits of the format, while at 24/96 tests show some differences. I don't see any data at 24/44 or 24/48 but my own casual tests show these are the data formats where the Mia really shows an advantage. |
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M-Audiophile 24/96 vs USB cards for prosumer soundcard choice
I have heard for a long time that the M-Audiophile 24/96 is the best buy for a prosumer DAW...but lately I have seen so many USB soundcard options... Is there an inherent weakness or reason to go PCI card and not USB soundcard? If not...is there a value priced USB card that delivers similar quality and features when compared to the M-Audio 24/96? I mainly use CubaseSX (considering switching to Nuendo2) for vocal recording and Midi keyboard recording. There is no reason to choose USB if installing a pci card is an option. CubaseFAQ page www.laurencepayne.co.uk/CubaseFAQ.htm |
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M-Audiophile 24/96 vs USB cards for prosumer soundcard choice
I have heard for a long time that the M-Audiophile 24/96 is the best buy for a prosumer DAW...but lately I have seen so many USB soundcard options... Is there an inherent weakness or reason to go PCI card and not USB soundcard? If not...is there a value priced USB card that delivers similar quality and features when compared to the M-Audio 24/96? I mainly use CubaseSX (considering switching to Nuendo2) for vocal recording and Midi keyboard recording. There is no reason to choose USB if installing a pci card is an option. CubaseFAQ page www.laurencepayne.co.uk/CubaseFAQ.htm |
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M-AP 2496 vs Echo Mia - comparison somewhere? Stability is the key
Has anyone used both to know which drivers are most stable under WinXP?
They seem close enough that whichever crashes less would be the best pick. For me...stability is the acid test of most sound cards. Especially stability with CubaseSX. In article , says... wrote in message Do you have a chart or resource that compares the Echo Mia with the AP2496? http://audio.rightmark.org/test/mia/echo-mia-1644.html http://audio.rightmark.org/test/mia/echo-mia-2496.html versus: http://audio.rightmark.org/rus/test/...iophile-1644.h tml http://audio.rightmark.org/rus/test/...iophile-2496.h tml At 1644 they both come pretty close to the limits of the format, while at 24/96 tests show some differences. I don't see any data at 24/44 or 24/48 but my own casual tests show these are the data formats where the Mia really shows an advantage. |
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M-AP 2496 vs Echo Mia - comparison somewhere? Stability is the key
Has anyone used both to know which drivers are most stable under WinXP?
They seem close enough that whichever crashes less would be the best pick. For me...stability is the acid test of most sound cards. Especially stability with CubaseSX. In article , says... wrote in message Do you have a chart or resource that compares the Echo Mia with the AP2496? http://audio.rightmark.org/test/mia/echo-mia-1644.html http://audio.rightmark.org/test/mia/echo-mia-2496.html versus: http://audio.rightmark.org/rus/test/...iophile-1644.h tml http://audio.rightmark.org/rus/test/...iophile-2496.h tml At 1644 they both come pretty close to the limits of the format, while at 24/96 tests show some differences. I don't see any data at 24/44 or 24/48 but my own casual tests show these are the data formats where the Mia really shows an advantage. |
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M-Audiophile 24/96 vs USB cards for prosumer soundcard choice
hate to beg for more...but...why?
In article , says... I have heard for a long time that the M-Audiophile 24/96 is the best buy for a prosumer DAW...but lately I have seen so many USB soundcard options... Is there an inherent weakness or reason to go PCI card and not USB soundcard? If not...is there a value priced USB card that delivers similar quality and features when compared to the M-Audio 24/96? I mainly use CubaseSX (considering switching to Nuendo2) for vocal recording and Midi keyboard recording. There is no reason to choose USB if installing a pci card is an option. CubaseFAQ page www.laurencepayne.co.uk/CubaseFAQ.htm |
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M-Audiophile 24/96 vs USB cards for prosumer soundcard choice
hate to beg for more...but...why?
In article , says... I have heard for a long time that the M-Audiophile 24/96 is the best buy for a prosumer DAW...but lately I have seen so many USB soundcard options... Is there an inherent weakness or reason to go PCI card and not USB soundcard? If not...is there a value priced USB card that delivers similar quality and features when compared to the M-Audio 24/96? I mainly use CubaseSX (considering switching to Nuendo2) for vocal recording and Midi keyboard recording. There is no reason to choose USB if installing a pci card is an option. CubaseFAQ page www.laurencepayne.co.uk/CubaseFAQ.htm |
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M-Audiophile 24/96 vs USB cards for prosumer soundcard choice
wrote in message ... hate to beg for more...but...why? Bandwidth headroom. Stability.Compatibility. Simple as that really. ATB-DG. |
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wrote in message ... hate to beg for more...but...why? Bandwidth headroom. Stability.Compatibility. Simple as that really. ATB-DG. |
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M-Audiophile 24/96 vs USB cards for prosumer soundcard choice
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Is there an inherent weakness or reason to go PCI card and not USB soundcard? If you want the option of using the device with a laptop, then get the USB version. If you don't need that option, then get the PCI card because it'll be tucked neatly away inside the computer, will probably cost less for equivalent features and performance, and the PCI buss is faster and more reliable than the USB buss (which may or may not be relevant, depending on whether or not the USB buss is in fact fast enough to do what you want to do, and I don't know the answer to that). ulysses |
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M-Audiophile 24/96 vs USB cards for prosumer soundcard choice
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Is there an inherent weakness or reason to go PCI card and not USB soundcard? If you want the option of using the device with a laptop, then get the USB version. If you don't need that option, then get the PCI card because it'll be tucked neatly away inside the computer, will probably cost less for equivalent features and performance, and the PCI buss is faster and more reliable than the USB buss (which may or may not be relevant, depending on whether or not the USB buss is in fact fast enough to do what you want to do, and I don't know the answer to that). ulysses |
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M-AP 2496 vs Echo Mia - comparison somewhere? Stability is the key
On Mon, 6 Oct 2003 20:00:44 -0400, wrote:
Has anyone used both to know which drivers are most stable under WinXP? They seem close enough that whichever crashes less would be the best pick. For me...stability is the acid test of most sound cards. Especially stability with CubaseSX. Is instability of soundcard drivers a common problem? The only crashing soundcard I have ever experienced was an old Echo Gina on a system which turned out to have a bad memory stick. The Gina (and its drivers) continue to function very well. Both the cards you mention rarely have problems reported. CubaseFAQ page www.laurencepayne.co.uk/CubaseFAQ.htm |
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M-AP 2496 vs Echo Mia - comparison somewhere? Stability is the key
On Mon, 6 Oct 2003 20:00:44 -0400, wrote:
Has anyone used both to know which drivers are most stable under WinXP? They seem close enough that whichever crashes less would be the best pick. For me...stability is the acid test of most sound cards. Especially stability with CubaseSX. Is instability of soundcard drivers a common problem? The only crashing soundcard I have ever experienced was an old Echo Gina on a system which turned out to have a bad memory stick. The Gina (and its drivers) continue to function very well. Both the cards you mention rarely have problems reported. CubaseFAQ page www.laurencepayne.co.uk/CubaseFAQ.htm |
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M-AP 2496 vs Echo Mia - comparison somewhere? Stability is the key
On Mon, 6 Oct 2003 20:00:44 -0400, wrote:
Has anyone used both to know which drivers are most stable under WinXP? They seem close enough that whichever crashes less would be the best pick. For me...stability is the acid test of most sound cards. Especially stability with CubaseSX. Is instability of soundcard drivers a common problem? The only crashing soundcard I have ever experienced was an old Echo Gina on a system which turned out to have a bad memory stick. The Gina (and its drivers) continue to function very well. Both the cards you mention rarely have problems reported. CubaseFAQ page www.laurencepayne.co.uk/CubaseFAQ.htm |
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M-Audiophile 24/96 vs USB cards for prosumer soundcard choice
On Mon, 6 Oct 2003 20:02:16 -0400, wrote:
hate to beg for more...but...why? Why pci over usb? If you can connect directly, why connect through an additional layer? Usb 1.1 is adequate for two channels of in/out, but with no room to spare. There's now one (to my knowledge) usb2 audio interface available, and a handful of Firewire ones. These interfaces have adequate bandwidth, but no more than the pci bus on which they run. And they are more expensive than the equivalent pci card. CubaseFAQ page www.laurencepayne.co.uk/CubaseFAQ.htm |
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M-Audiophile 24/96 vs USB cards for prosumer soundcard choice
On Mon, 6 Oct 2003 20:02:16 -0400, wrote:
hate to beg for more...but...why? Why pci over usb? If you can connect directly, why connect through an additional layer? Usb 1.1 is adequate for two channels of in/out, but with no room to spare. There's now one (to my knowledge) usb2 audio interface available, and a handful of Firewire ones. These interfaces have adequate bandwidth, but no more than the pci bus on which they run. And they are more expensive than the equivalent pci card. CubaseFAQ page www.laurencepayne.co.uk/CubaseFAQ.htm |
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M-Audiophile 24/96 vs USB cards for prosumer soundcard choice
On Mon, 6 Oct 2003 20:02:16 -0400, wrote:
hate to beg for more...but...why? Why pci over usb? If you can connect directly, why connect through an additional layer? Usb 1.1 is adequate for two channels of in/out, but with no room to spare. There's now one (to my knowledge) usb2 audio interface available, and a handful of Firewire ones. These interfaces have adequate bandwidth, but no more than the pci bus on which they run. And they are more expensive than the equivalent pci card. CubaseFAQ page www.laurencepayne.co.uk/CubaseFAQ.htm |
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M-Audiophile 24/96 vs USB cards for prosumer soundcard choice
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... Hi All, I have heard for a long time that the M-Audiophile 24/96 is the best buy for a prosumer DAW...but lately I have seen so many USB soundcard options... Is there an inherent weakness or reason to go PCI card and not USB soundcard? If not...is there a value priced USB card that delivers similar quality and features when compared to the M-Audio 24/96? I mainly use CubaseSX (considering switching to Nuendo2) for vocal recording and Midi keyboard recording. Don't do USB, get a card. For one thing with a card you can get MIDI and S/PDIF digital I/O in addition to the analog I/O. I just installed an M-Audio 2496 into an XP system and it works flawlessly. I haven't tried one of the Echo Mia cards yet, but I've had no problems with my Echo Gina card in four years. I especially like the Echo console software that lets me adjust the gain of all the analog ports at the card level. Sean |
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M-Audiophile 24/96 vs USB cards for prosumer soundcard choice
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... Hi All, I have heard for a long time that the M-Audiophile 24/96 is the best buy for a prosumer DAW...but lately I have seen so many USB soundcard options... Is there an inherent weakness or reason to go PCI card and not USB soundcard? If not...is there a value priced USB card that delivers similar quality and features when compared to the M-Audio 24/96? I mainly use CubaseSX (considering switching to Nuendo2) for vocal recording and Midi keyboard recording. Don't do USB, get a card. For one thing with a card you can get MIDI and S/PDIF digital I/O in addition to the analog I/O. I just installed an M-Audio 2496 into an XP system and it works flawlessly. I haven't tried one of the Echo Mia cards yet, but I've had no problems with my Echo Gina card in four years. I especially like the Echo console software that lets me adjust the gain of all the analog ports at the card level. Sean |
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