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Bob, I think you're missing the point... I think what's being said is
that if you need to charge $50.00/hour just to cover expenses, then a 'customer' like yourself comes in and demands that you work on his product for half that; the answer is no. If those are your expenses, then only an unreasonable amount of volume could possibly make up for doing the work at half price. You are the picture-perfect definition of a troll. ~Mister.Lull |
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On 23 Jun 2005 13:45:59 -0700, "Mister.Lull"
wrote: Bob, I think you're missing the point... I think what's being said is that if you need to charge $50.00/hour just to cover expenses, then a 'customer' like yourself comes in and demands that you work on his product for half that; the answer is no. If those are your expenses, then only an unreasonable amount of volume could possibly make up for doing the work at half price. You are the picture-perfect definition of a troll. ~Mister.Lull Good point. These repair shop owners aren't buying second homes in the French Riviera with the money they make charging $50-$60 per hour. The reason why that's the going rate most places you look is that the owners have figured out that's what they have to charge to cover all of their expenses and make a fair profit. If there were a whole lot of extra profit at that price rate, we'd see price wars with some shops charging a lot less to try to win away customers. -- Scott Gardner "Tis an ill wind that blows no minds." |
#83
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Remember when I said I worked on higher end gear that was worth fixing?
Not only is it your job as a customer to determine if it is worth repairing but a competent tech will tell you right off that there's no sense in going ahead with the repair, it's good practices. As for the $0 an hour, don't fret. Things will keep breaking and people will still buy non-bottom-feeder gear. Chad |
#84
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i'm not so sure $25 IS better than $0. if he's packed with business, the
time he takes having to listen to your 3rd grade reasoning, added to fact that your business interrupts the other items he has to fix, it might be more profitable for him to not even let you enter the door. If its 3/4 of the way through a work day(say 6 hours down 2 to go) and he's had no business and you come in with your haggling it would be cheaper to turn you away. let the tech go means at least a conservative $15/hr = $30. so this means that by staying and dealing with you he's going to lose $5(and work for free if he's not the tech). the only thing more valuable than money, is time and dealing with an IDOT takes a lot of time. I mean look at the length of this thread so far. Chad Wahls" wrote in message oups.com... Remember when I said I worked on higher end gear that was worth fixing? Not only is it your job as a customer to determine if it is worth repairing but a competent tech will tell you right off that there's no sense in going ahead with the repair, it's good practices. As for the $0 an hour, don't fret. Things will keep breaking and people will still buy non-bottom-feeder gear. Chad |
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i'm not so sure $25 IS better than $0. if he's packed with business, the
time he takes having to listen to your 3rd grade reasoning, added to fact that your business interrupts the other items he has to fix, it might be more profitable for him to not even let you enter the door. Not only that, but this jackass will go out and tell all his friends (both of them) that he got a lower rate, so everyone will be asking for one. Besides, half the time when people demand a lower rate and are refused, they'll come back later and pay full rate anyway. |
#86
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ok.. if you rich people making $50 an hour.
why are you here? plus why arent you all driving jags n hummers with $4000+ worth of equipment? |
#87
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no you cant give every1 fair prices just afew amonth. and if you turn me
down ill tell others not to go to you. youre over priced.... you gota give to get. remember most peole coming to you aint making $10 an hour. you think hes going to work hard 5 hours to pay you for 1hour????lol i'm in the southern part of the country.... and i know if i tell every1 to get a deal with you my deal is gone. dont be stupid.... |
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ok.. if you rich people making $50 an hour.
why are you here? I didn't realize this was a newsgroup for unemployed people only. plus why arent you all driving jags n hummers with $4000+ worth of equipment? Have you ignored all the posts on this subject? Do you honestly think that every $50 they make goes in their pockets? |
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no you cant give every1 fair prices just afew amonth. and if you turn me
down ill tell others not to go to you. youre over priced.... Please explain how someone can be overpriced by selling goods or services for the going rate. you gota give to get. remember most peole coming to you aint making $10 an hour. What makes you say that? People making more than $10/hr don't buy amplifiers? you think hes going to work hard 5 hours to pay you for 1hour????lol i'm in the southern part of the country.... Figures... |
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i see you cant read. i said ''most'' people.
the key word is most...... i think most untrained or trained in less than 4weeks of all working people are making over $25 hr.i think most people working -at ford-gm-case tractor-dodge-kenworth trucks.etc plus other assembly lines dont make $25+ an hour. but you guys are trained professionals..... |
#91
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"bob wald" wrote in message ... no you cant give every1 fair prices just afew amonth. and if you turn me down ill tell others not to go to you. youre over priced.... you gota give to get. remember most peole coming to you aint making $10 an hour. you think hes going to work hard 5 hours to pay you for 1hour????lol i'm in the southern part of the country.... and i know if i tell every1 to get a deal with you my deal is gone. dont be stupid.... Ahhh now I get it, you think the labor rate should be what the consumer makes per hour. Hmmmm. Btw there has been many occasions I have worked on a piece for over 5 hours and charged for 2. Why? Because I got stumped and realized I was going at it wrong. The repair should have taken 2 hours, I billed for 2 hours... Another business loss. Chad |
#92
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i see you cant read. i said ''most'' people.
the key word is most...... i think most untrained or trained in less than 4weeks of all working people are making over $25 hr.i think most people working -at ford-gm-case tractor-dodge-kenworth trucks.etc plus other assembly lines dont make $25+ an hour. but you guys are trained professionals..... What the hell are you talking about? You think most untrained people make over $25/hour? What makes you say that? And what does that have to do with anything I asked? |
#93
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I have a diploma in electronic engineering. I'll probably be able to fix it
mself if its easy enough to see what the problem is... Anyone willing to give me a few pointers on where to start?? What should I check first? "Christopher O'Callaghan" wrote in message ... So............ after all those replies, still no help in my situation at all.... Is my amp fuct? is it repairable? how much am I looking at? I am an engineer, would it be easy enough to pin point the problem?? "Daniel Snooks" wrote in message .. . Vivek Kapoor wrote: It seems the only good thing left in this thread is Scott Gardner's one liners. Keep it coming. ROFLMAO ... thanks for the heads up, and here I was just reading the replies :-) -- Dan Snooks |
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#95
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lol...i can tell you dont make jack.....a hummer or jag aint nothing to
any1 making $ 50 an hour. $50x30hrs=$1500 aweek......x48weeks=$72000 ayr. |
#96
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lolll..hahahAHAHa...unless you paying off ya $250,000 home you got money
for hummers. $50 an hour is a LOT of money.....i would kill you dead for a job for just 1yr making $50 an hour. |
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$72k a year isn't really that much if you've got a family to support, a
mortgage to pay, kids to put through school, and a future to save for. Now, if your spouse is also pulling in $72k a year, that's another story... And to address your other post, no a $250k house isn't very expensive in many parts of the country. I know you said you're from the south, so that would be like a mansion down there. But in places like Massachusetts, Rhode Island, parts of New Hampshire, Connecticut, New Jersey, New York, California and several other states, $250k will buy you a shack. I know people who bought houses 15 years ago in Massachusetts and Rhode Island for under $200k, and without putting much work into them they're now selling for close to half a million. The housing market has gone crazy there. But none of this is relevant anyway, because the shop owner who is charging you $50 an hour for service ISN'T MAKING $50/HR. This has been pointed out to you numerous times, yet you continue to ignore it. Do you think running a business is free? I suspect that when you get out of high school you'll start to see how the real world works. The fantasy land you live in will implode once you start a family or move out of Backwater, Mississippi. "bob wald" wrote in message ... lol...i can tell you dont make jack.....a hummer or jag aint nothing to any1 making $ 50 an hour. $50x30hrs=$1500 aweek......x48weeks=$72000 ayr. |
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#100
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ok......first i am grown next i am a finance/tax expert thats my job.
next if you have expenses at your job that lowers your taxes. i thought most of you work for yourself out of a lil shop or garage. with lil expenses. next if you make $50 an hr you might take home $40 an hour. with alil deductions. next a $250000 or any house you can buy 15% cheaper than list price. your car is 10% of your pay. that was funny. i will pay whatever i have to for cars/gas/ins/maintaince. not to be walking. i think around 15% is average.to 22%. a person here making 2k pays around $400 amonth just his car note on a lexus/infinity. |
#101
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look o $72000 a yr your car allowance minium a month is like $700.
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#102
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ok......first i am grown next i am a finance/tax expert thats my job.
next if you have expenses at your job that lowers your taxes. i thought most of you work for yourself out of a lil shop or garage. with lil expenses. You didn't read Chad's post? He listed for you specifically what his expenses are. next if you make $50 an hr you might take home $40 an hour. with alil deductions. next a $250000 or any house you can buy 15% cheaper than list price. Huh? your car is 10% of your pay. that was funny. i will pay whatever i have to for cars/gas/ins/maintaince. not to be walking. So the choice is Hummer, Lexus, or walk? i think around 15% is average.to 22%. a person here making 2k pays around $400 amonth just his car note on a lexus/infinity. |
#103
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no any well running car is ok. my intrepid suits me now.
you can buy houses cheaper than list price. |
#104
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i believe 50x40=$2000 awk, $100000 a yr. so i already took out for
taxes/stuff. hes ot smart enough to see $50 hr. equals more than $72000 ayr. $72000 is after taves.doof! ok homer? |
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listen you all are embarrassing yourselfs..with your math skills..please
stop.my drink almost shot out my nose from all the laughing i'm doing while reading your posts...... And you want $50 an hours!! lol if i were you id be happy with $7 an hour. |
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#110
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"bob wald" wrote in message ... listen you all are embarrassing yourselfs..with your math skills..please stop.my drink almost shot out my nose from all the laughing i'm doing while reading your posts...... And you want $50 an hours!! lol if i were you id be happy with $7 an hour. Anyone who's been to college would have better spelling and puntuation skills than what you are using. I would bet you make $6/hr and work in fast food. |
#111
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(Scott, fix your clock!)
"scott johnson" (net) wrote in message ... |
#112
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listen you all are embarrassing yourselfs..with your math skills..
You're the one that came up with the $72k number, genius. |
#113
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Anyone who's been to college would have better spelling and puntuation
skills than what you are using. I think you would be surprised, actually... |
#114
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On Sat, 25 Jun 2005 13:27:06 -0400, "MZ"
wrote: listen you all are embarrassing yourselfs..with your math skills.. You're the one that came up with the $72k number, genius. Yep, and here's his original post, with the math spelled out: "lol...i can tell you dont make jack.....a hummer or jag aint nothing to any1 making $ 50 an hour. $50x30hrs=$1500 aweek......x48weeks=$72000 ayr. " Now that we've explained to him that $72,000 annual gross income isn't very much, and that it's financially irresponsible to buy a new Hummer on that kind of income, he's changing his tune and claiming that the $72,000 is net take-home pay after all expenses and taxes. Dance, monkey, Dance!! -- Scott Gardner "You don't need to fire the rig foreman that just blew the top off the wellhead, cause you know for damned sure he'll never do it again." (Ron Gardner) |
#115
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"Scott Gardner" wrote in message
news Yep, and here's his original post, with the math spelled out: "lol...i can tell you dont make jack.....a hummer or jag aint nothing to any1 making $ 50 an hour. $50x30hrs=$1500 aweek......x48weeks=$72000 ayr. " Now that we've explained to him that $72,000 annual gross income isn't very much, and that it's financially irresponsible to buy a new Hummer on that kind of income, he's changing his tune and claiming that the $72,000 is net take-home pay after all expenses and taxes. Dance, monkey, Dance!! Frankly, at this point I'm embarassed to be picking on him. It's like criticizing Stephen Hawking for not being able to walk. |
#116
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On Sat, 25 Jun 2005 13:42:00 -0400, "MZ"
wrote: "Scott Gardner" wrote in message news Yep, and here's his original post, with the math spelled out: "lol...i can tell you dont make jack.....a hummer or jag aint nothing to any1 making $ 50 an hour. $50x30hrs=$1500 aweek......x48weeks=$72000 ayr. " Now that we've explained to him that $72,000 annual gross income isn't very much, and that it's financially irresponsible to buy a new Hummer on that kind of income, he's changing his tune and claiming that the $72,000 is net take-home pay after all expenses and taxes. Dance, monkey, Dance!! Frankly, at this point I'm embarassed to be picking on him. It's like criticizing Stephen Hawking for not being able to walk. I was thinking the same thing. Looking at his posts in a lot of other newsgroups, he'll start a new thread making some inflammatory statement and wait for comments. Surprisingly, most of the other groups ignore him, so the only post in the thread is just his original one. I guess we have to accept responsiblity for feeding the troll. -- Scott Gardner "Eagles may soar, but weasels never get sucked into jet air intakes." |
#117
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"MZ" wrote in message ... (Scott, fix your clock!) "scott johnson" (net) wrote in message ... Thanks. Bill Gates screwed up again! |
#118
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yes i came up with 72k for making $50hr. so you shoulda been able to see
i deducted for taxes etc. but these experts started deducting taxes from 72k..loll..HahahaAHAHAHa.... |
#119
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look thats why i used just 30hrs.. to take off 25% taxes etc.. geezzz
and i didnt count any over time. youll make 3-5k on the side too. i didnt count that. $72000 is your take home after all taxes n cost....at $50 an hour. |
#120
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i talk about things other men fear and i teach.
here i am teaching..but some of you cant take the truth! lol |
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