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omni mics in live sound reinforcement
has anybody done this?
It seems like it would be perilous. just wondering if there is ever a situation where it's useful. maybe placed in the middle of a violin/ viola/cello trio in a low-volume setting. |
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omni mics in live sound reinforcement
genericaudioperson wrote:
has anybody done this? It seems like it would be perilous. just wondering if there is ever a situation where it's useful. maybe placed in the middle of a violin/ viola/cello trio in a low-volume setting. I tried it on fiddle one time. Not good at all. It sounded fine, but had no gain before feedback to speak of. We went with a pickup into a buffer. -- Les Cargill |
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"genericaudioperson" wrote
in message has anybody done this? Lots of people. Tons of Countryman E6s are being used for live sound, and the basic element is a subminiature omni. One nice thing about omnis, no proximity effect. |
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"genericaudioperson" wrote in message ... has anybody done this? It seems like it would be perilous. just wondering if there is ever a situation where it's useful. maybe placed in the middle of a violin/ viola/cello trio in a low-volume setting. Well, a couple of examples in addition to theatre work and lavalieres in general ; the Shure 520DX, a commonly used harmonic mic is an omni. Admittedly this could be argued about but Shure claims its an omni. see: http://www.shure.com/ProAudio/Produc..._520DX_content In bluegrass it is common for the group on stage to half circle around an omni. Sometimes an omni can be used without feedback in a band situation when micing a loud instrument such as a guitar amp, however you will probably pickup much stage "wash" as well. |
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omni mics in live sound reinforcement
genericaudioperson wrote:
has anybody done this? It seems like it would be perilous. just wondering if there is ever a situation where it's useful. It depends on the situation. You have the inverse square law working in your favor. If the omni mic is an inch above the sound board on a violin and the monitors aren't too loud (or don't exist at all, or are not speakers, but earphones) then an omni can work very well. In fact there are many tiny omni mics used in this manner all the time in sound reinforcement. -- If you e-mail me and it bounces, use your secret decoder ring and reach me he double-m-eleven-double-zero at yahoo -- I'm really Mike Rivers ) |
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omni mics in live sound reinforcement
On Nov 28, 8:09*pm, genericaudioperson
wrote: has anybody done this? It seems like it would be perilous. just wondering if there is ever a situation where it's useful. *maybe placed in the middle of a violin/ viola/cello trio in a low-volume setting. As long as the mic is really close to the sound source, fine, but if it's a quiet instrument and you have to crank the gain to make it heard (like say an oboe), potentially big trouble. -Neb |
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omni mics in live sound reinforcement
genericaudioperson wrote:
has anybody done this? It seems like it would be perilous. just wondering if there is ever a situation where it's useful. maybe placed in the middle of a violin/ viola/cello trio in a low-volume setting. Okay.... deep breath here.... think about the 1-3 rule. Now, imagine with an omni microphone that the 1-3 rule has turned into a 1-10 rule. So, it's fine, as long as you get it close enough. And it's fine when you don't need a lot of gain, or when you can block the microphone in such a way that the splatter from the mains is reduced. One good example is back-miking guitar cabinets... a 635A can be great there. The microphone is shielded from the mains and monitors by the cabinet. The source is loud, the microphone is right up against the source. GBF quickly becomes a non-issue. --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." |
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Tim Perry wrote:
Well, a couple of examples in addition to theatre work and lavalieres in general ; the Shure 520DX, a commonly used harmonic mic is an omni. Admittedly this could be argued about but Shure claims its an omni. see: http://www.shure.com/ProAudio/Produc..._520DX_content It really is an omni. Shure used to call it a noise-cancelling mike, but it's really not. In bluegrass it is common for the group on stage to half circle around an omni. Actually, it is much more common to see a cardioid or even a hypercardioid used here, because the gain before feedback is much better. I see the AT4033 as one of the more popular mikes that bluegrass guys use for this. Sometimes an omni can be used without feedback in a band situation when micing a loud instrument such as a guitar amp, however you will probably pickup much stage "wash" as well. Yup! --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." |
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