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I'm 35. Engineer. And you?
I'm curious about the demographic that occupies these groups. |
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On Sun, 30 Sep 2007 11:42:46 -0700, wrote:
I'm 35. Engineer. And you? I'm curious about the demographic that occupies these groups. I'm 53. Engineer. |
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I'm 35. Engineer. And you? I'm curious about the demographic that occupies these groups. ANd this is a nonsense post. You've cross-posted it to rec.audio.tech rec.audio.car rec.radio.shortwave ba.broadcast Realistically they have nothing in common. Even the last two are a stretch. The question has no relevance in the first place, because there's no context to the point of the question, and once you cross-post there is nothing at all in common. You might as well have asked "What did you have for breakfast" because it would have been just as off-topic to all four newsgroups, and be just been as nonsensical to the groups as your actual question. Michael |
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oups.com... I'm 35. Engineer. And you? I'm curious about the demographic that occupies these groups. 55. Teacher |
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wrote in message oups.com... I'm 35. Engineer. And you? I'm curious about the demographic that occupies these groups. To a head of lettuce I am very old. However compared to a mountain, I have not yet begun in years. You're as young as you feel and as old as you act. Age is nothing but a number... John |
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wrote in message oups.com... I'm 35. Engineer. And you? I'm curious about the demographic that occupies these groups. 76 years old, retired Hewlett-Packard Technical Writer, AA Degree Electronics, Amateur Extra since 1977, US Navy Korean War - Aviation Electronics Tech AT1 SWL frequently The Old Shadow do |
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Soundhaspriority wrote: "Don Pearce" wrote: I'm 35. Engineer. And you? I'm 57, and I'd like to say I'm an engineer, but the word is debased currency these days. People like me, who have done the studying, can design systems and circuits, write international standards, climb a transmitter tower in a gale, get you a telecomms license and shmooze middle eastern potentates etc etc are engineers. Designing circuits and writing standards will get you "engineer." The other things you mention are too nebulous to qualify for a title, but they're good things to be good at. Yes. I believe the word you're looking for is "technician" - somebody who knows how to fix various things and assemble them, but doesn't know how to design, because they typically have only 2 years of college or trade school. He can't be a competent engineer if he doesn't understand synchronous detection, which may predate single side band, pre 1952. Is "he" refering to me? Well sorry to disappoint you, but a lot of that stuff is passe', and no longer taught in college. I studied digital circuit design and digital signal processing at Penn State. No analog stuff other than the basics (op-amps). |
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On Sep 30, 3:40 pm, "The Shadow" wrote:
wrote in message oups.com... I'm 35. Engineer. And you? I'm curious about the demographic that occupies these groups. 76 years old, retired Hewlett-Packard Technical Writer, AA Degree Electronics, Amateur Extra since 1977, US Navy Korean War - Aviation Electronics Tech AT1 SWL frequently The Old Shadow do I'm 20. Candidate for a Bachelors degree in Electro-Optics in applied Physics with a minor in Computer Science.. I created most of the infrared focal plane array test program for anti- missile defense and worked on other various electro-optic projects throughout my work experience, and before that I was a physics tutor for numerous college students. I've been playing piano for more than 14 years and still continue to play. I wrote a research paper on LED's in an RC circuit. |
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Michael Black wrote:
snip You might as well have asked "What did you have for breakfast" because it would have been just as off-topic to all four newsgroups, and be just been as nonsensical to the groups as your actual question. Well discussing breakfast would IMHO be far more on-topic than the vast majority of posts to rec.radio.shortwave. I would support a campaign to improve the S/N ratio on r.r.s. Regards, Michael |
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wrote in message oups.com... Soundhaspriority wrote: "Don Pearce" wrote: I'm 35. Engineer. And you? I'm 57, and I'd like to say I'm an engineer, but the word is debased currency these days. People like me, who have done the studying, can design systems and circuits, write international standards, climb a transmitter tower in a gale, get you a telecomms license and shmooze middle eastern potentates etc etc are engineers. Designing circuits and writing standards will get you "engineer." The other things you mention are too nebulous to qualify for a title, but they're good things to be good at. Yes. I believe the word you're looking for is "technician" - somebody who knows how to fix various things and assemble them, but doesn't know how to design, because they typically have only 2 years of college or trade school. He can't be a competent engineer if he doesn't understand synchronous detection, which may predate single side band, pre 1952. Is "he" refering to me? Well sorry to disappoint you, but a lot of that stuff is passe', and no longer taught in college. I studied digital circuit design and digital signal processing at Penn State. No analog stuff other than the basics (op-amps). Modulation and information theory are not "passé". |
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On Sep 30, 3:03 pm, "Karl Uppiano" wrote:
wrote in message Soundhaspriority wrote: He can't be a competent engineer if he doesn't understand synchronous detection, which may predate single side band, pre 1952. Is "he" refering to me? Well sorry to disappoint you, but a lot of that stuff is passe', and no longer taught in college. I studied digital circuit design and digital signal processing at Penn State. No analog stuff other than the basics (op-amps). Modulation and information theory are not "passé". I didn't say it was. I said ANALOG theory was. Digital of course still has relevance. |
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On Sun, 30 Sep 2007 13:26:16 -0700, wrote:
On Sep 30, 3:03 pm, "Karl Uppiano" wrote: wrote in message Soundhaspriority wrote: He can't be a competent engineer if he doesn't understand synchronous detection, which may predate single side band, pre 1952. Is "he" refering to me? Well sorry to disappoint you, but a lot of that stuff is passe', and no longer taught in college. I studied digital circuit design and digital signal processing at Penn State. No analog stuff other than the basics (op-amps). Modulation and information theory are not "passé". I didn't say it was. I said ANALOG theory was. Digital of course still has relevance. But every digital device is full of analogue devices. Not only that, but they run so quickly that you need to be highly competent in distributed circuit theory and microwave design techniques. Digital is only of use if you do your engineering at the LEGO level. d -- Pearce Consulting http://www.pearce.uk.com |
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wrote in message oups.com... I'm 35. Engineer. And you? I'm curious about the demographic that occupies these groups. Accounting Student/Forklift Driver -Brian |
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"Karl Uppiano" wrote:
Modulation and information theory are not "passé". Don't confuse Eduardo, er, "SFTV," he has all the answers. Oh, "SFTV," 44, computer science and mathematics, and an engineer. And I use the term with pride and defend against those who misuse it. Those would include YOU. You are the most childlike 35 year old I've run across. I know 21 year olds with more maturity. |
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On 2007-09-30 11:42:46 -0700, said:
I'm 35. Engineer. And you? EE, mainframe computer hardware and software development engineer (retired). Over 60. |
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On Sep 30, 11:42 am, wrote:
I'm 35. Engineer. And you? I'm curious about the demographic that occupies these groups. SFTV - Neither of Which Matter. Do You Listen to Over-the-Air AM/MW and Shortwave Radio is the "Only" Qualification To Be Here and Post Here [.] AGE - I am Old Enough To Listen To The Radio An Enjoy It. OCCUPATION / ADVOCATION - Radio Listener. ~ RHF I Ask Myself : What IBOC ? All I See Is The Blinking Blue Light ! ~ RHF In That Distant Land* Where IBOC Fears To Go : Life Exists and Radio Listeners Live Beyond the 10mv/m Contour. * Twain Harte, CA -USA- |
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On Sep 30, 11:55 am, (Don Pearce) wrote:
On Sun, 30 Sep 2007 11:42:46 -0700, wrote: I'm 35. Engineer. And you? I'm curious about the demographic that occupies these groups. I'm 57, and I'd like to say I'm an engineer, but the word is debased currency these days. People like me, who have done the studying, can design systems and circuits, write international standards, climb a transmitter tower in a gale, get you a telecomms license and shmooze middle eastern potentates etc etc are engineers. The chap who comes to look at my busted washing machine and announce it is beyond repair - he is an engineer too, as is the bloke who sits at a mixing desk with not the slightest clue as to what he is doing, and moves a fader while trying to look cool. I don't feel that inclined to call myself an engineer these days. d -- Pearce Consulting http://www.pearce.uk.com The Ubiquitous "Sanitation Engineer" ! -a la- Dilbert ;-} http://www.dilbert.com/comics/dilber...haracter3.html |
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On Sep 30, 12:46 pm, wrote:
Soundhaspriority wrote: "Don Pearce" wrote: I'm 35. Engineer. And you? I'm 57, and I'd like to say I'm an engineer, but the word is debased currency these days. People like me, who have done the studying, can design systems and circuits, write international standards, climb a transmitter tower in a gale, get you a telecomms license and shmooze middle eastern potentates etc etc are engineers. Designing circuits and writing standards will get you "engineer." The other things you mention are too nebulous to qualify for a title, but they're good things to be good at. Yes. I believe the word you're looking for is "technician" - somebody who knows how to fix various things and assemble them, but doesn't know how to design, because they typically have only 2 years of college or trade school. He can't be a competent engineer if he doesn't understand synchronous detection, which may predate single side band, pre 1952. Is "he" refering to me? Well sorry to disappoint you, but a lot of that stuff is passe', and no longer taught in college. I studied digital circuit design and digital signal processing at Penn State. No analog stuff other than the basics (op-amps). SFTV, All That Does Not Matter - Do You Listen to Free Over-the-Air AM/MW and Shortwave Radio ? Are You An Avid AM/MW and Shortwave Radio Listener. I Ask Myself : What IBOC ? All I See Is The Blinking Blue Light ! ~ RHF In That Distant Land* Where IBOC Fears To Go : Life Exists and Radio Listeners Live Beyond the 10mv/m Contour. * Twain Harte, CA -USA- |
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"Michael Black" wrote in message ... ) writes: I'm 35. Engineer. And you? I'm curious about the demographic that occupies these groups. ANd this is a nonsense post. You've cross-posted it to rec.audio.tech rec.audio.car rec.radio.shortwave ba.broadcast Realistically they have nothing in common. Even the last two are a stretch. The question has no relevance in the first place, because there's no context to the point of the question, and once you cross-post there is nothing at all in common. You might as well have asked "What did you have for breakfast" because it would have been just as off-topic to all four newsgroups, and be just been as nonsensical to the groups as your actual question. Michael And I agree, that's why I have a nonsense answer. Age has nothing to do with it. I've met young folk who act really mature and older people who act like little kids. John |
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On Sep 30, 2:32 pm, Eric F. Richards wrote:
"Karl Uppiano" wrote: Modulation and information theory are not "passé". Don't confuse Eduardo, er, "SFTV," he has all the answers. Oh, "SFTV," 44, computer science and mathematics, and an engineer. And I use the term with pride and defend against those who misuse it. Those would include YOU. You are the most childlike 35 year old I've run across. I know 21 year olds with more maturity. EFR - I still think SFTV is "Radium". ~ RHF . |
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I'm 35. Engineer. And you? I'm curious about the demographic that occupies these groups. 54 http://www.neopax.com/ -- Dirk http://www.transcendence.me.uk/ - Transcendence UK Remote Viewing classes in London |
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On Sun, 30 Sep 2007 16:02:17 -0700, SFTV_troy
wrote: He can't be a competent engineer if he doesn't understand three-phase power generation and transmission as well. Learning all that was necessary before we could learn electronics in every major engineering school. That was optional at Penn State. I never took it. When I went to engineering school at one of the Big Three there were no "optional" engineering courses. We had to take, understand, and pass all courses which were thrown at us or go spend out time elsewhere. Some of them, such as Atomic Physics, were very obscure. I knew electronics, but for the power courses I had to bust my hump. That's why I still remember them and retain some competence after all the years of doing communications engineering. Doubtful. Engineering is boring; you sit in a damn cube all day long, staring at a computer. I've been saving every penny, such that I will be able to retire at 40-45. Or semi-retire (only take jobs I like). If you sit in a "damn cube all day long staring at a computer" you are no more than a designer - the bottom rung of engineering. Do you get out in the field to see and evaluate your projects "in action"? Do you have X years of experience or one year of experience X times? Engineering is dull. I too found design dull. When I started to do real engineering (project analysis and management) it was far from dull. If you find it dull, go do something else that will turn you on, and stop wasting your time and that of your employer(s). -- Phil Kane Beaverton, OR |
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Cubit wrote:
"Dirk Bruere at NeoPax" wrote in message ... wrote: I'm 35. Engineer. And you? I'm curious about the demographic that occupies these groups. 54 http://www.neopax.com/ -- Dirk http://www.transcendence.me.uk/ - Transcendence UK Remote Viewing classes in London Remote Viewing! It makes me wonder what percentage of the GDP is dedicated to things that do not exist. Like qubits? -- Dirk http://www.transcendence.me.uk/ - Transcendence UK Remote Viewing classes in London |
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On Sep 30, 11:55 am, (Don Pearce) wrote:
he is an engineer too, as is the bloke who sits at a mixing desk with not the slightest clue as to what he is doing, and moves a fader while trying to look cool. I don't call those people engineers, and any self-respecting broadcaster would not, either. Those are board operators. In TV the same function is called a TD or technical director, or simply a switcher. A TD would be laughed out of the control room if he called himself an engineer. I'm mystified as to why this topic was crossposted to 4 disparate newsgroups with little relation to each other. I don't even know who any of the respondents are, except for Phil Kane. |
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"Dirk Bruere at NeoPax" wrote in message ... wrote: I'm 35. Engineer. And you? I'm curious about the demographic that occupies these groups. 54 http://www.neopax.com/ -- Dirk http://www.transcendence.me.uk/ - Transcendence UK Remote Viewing classes in London Remote Viewing! It makes me wonder what percentage of the GDP is dedicated to things that do not exist. |
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oups.com I'm 35. Engineer. And you? I'm 60 and I'm a degreed engineer. Professionally, I've spent more time doing IT than anything else. |
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On Sep 30, 1:42 pm, wrote:
I'm 35. Engineer. And you? I'm curious about the demographic that occupies these groups. I am a 44 year old single gay white male. 5' 7" tall, 313 lbs. I am unable to work due to my weight and other health problems I would rather not go into. Thanks to social security disability payments and other government assistance I am able to enjoy many of my hobbies which include shortwave radio. A.W.S. President GLT Shortwave Club |
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In article om,
SFTV_troy wrote: Phil Kane wrote: On Sun, 30 Sep 2007 20:35:59 GMT, (Don Pearce) wrote: He can't be a competent engineer if he doesn't understand synchronous detection, which may predate single side band, pre 1952. He can't be a competent engineer if he doesn't understand three-phase power generation and transmission as well. Learning all that was necessary before we could learn electronics in every major engineering school. That was optional at Penn State. I never took it. I didn't say it was. I said ANALOG theory was. Digital of course still has relevance. But every digital device is full of analogue devices. Not only that, but they run so quickly that you need to be highly competent in distributed circuit theory and microwave design techniques. That is true. I was rather surprised on my last project to discover myself modeling analog signals, instead of digital. Oh well. Times change. Perhaps after he has 40-50 years of experience -- Doubtful. Engineering is boring; you sit in a damn cube all day long, staring at a computer. I've been saving every penny, such that I will be able to retire at 40-45. Or semi-retire (only take jobs I like). Engineering is dull. Well you took a wrong turn didn't you but it's never to late to get into marketing where you can lie your ass off. It's very exciting, just ask Eduardo. -- Telamon Ventura, California |
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"The Shadow" wrote: wrote in message oups.com... I'm 35. Engineer. And you? I'm curious about the demographic that occupies these groups. 76 years old, retired Hewlett-Packard Technical Writer, AA Degree Electronics, Amateur Extra since 1977, US Navy Korean War - Aviation Electronics Tech AT1 SWL frequently The Old Shadow do Now that's cool. I've probably read stuff you have written. -- Telamon Ventura, California |
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46 yrs old.
Ex-commercial pilot fixed and heli. 9 years IT - MCSE, (CNA A+) NT4 Win2k, maybe do Win2k3 soon. Do IT for state/prov Gov't. 5 Alpine oldschool amps 2x 3523, 1x 3525, 2x 3533's waiting for a cool new ride to install in. 1 Sherwood 5.1 AX-6275 plus decoder, still looking for a head unit. Drive a Ford. Big rack of NAD home stuff from the 80's. wrote in message oups.com... I'm 35. Engineer. And you? I'm curious about the demographic that occupies these groups. |
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I was born in the summer of my twenty-seventh year,
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On Oct 1, 12:54 am, Steven wrote:
I was born in the summer of my twenty-seventh year, and I left yesterday behind me. |
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"Steven" wrote in message ups.com... I was born in the summer of my twenty-seventh year, Going home to a place you've never been before? |
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"Steven" wrote in message ups.com... On Oct 1, 12:54 am, Steven wrote: I was born in the summer of my twenty-seventh year, and I left yesterday behind me. Might say you were born again? |
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I am 59 and am a "service technician" (a fancy name for grease monkey)
that works on Honda motorcycles. wrote: I'm 35. Engineer. And you? I'm curious about the demographic that occupies these groups. |