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Can you recommend a plug in compatible with Audacity that works well for compression and limiting of spoken voice
recordings? The several I've tried are very mediocre. Free or reasonably low cost is important for this particular application. |
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On 18/06/2016 13:20, mcp6453 wrote:
Can you recommend a plug in compatible with Audacity that works well for compression and limiting of spoken voice recordings? The several I've tried are very mediocre. Free or reasonably low cost is important for this particular application. Any 32 bit VST audio processing plugin that works in batch mode (That is, not in real time) can be used with Audacity. Having said that, the one that comes with Adobe Audition 3 suits me, using an old copy of Audition, and it's a VST effect. -- Tciao for Now! John. |
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mcp6453 writes:
Can you recommend a plug in compatible with Audacity that works well for compression and limiting of spoken voice recordings? The several I've tried are very mediocre. Free or reasonably low cost is important for this particular application. In this day of modern DSP, it's hard to believe a "stock" comp plug-in won't work -- are you sure it isn't a setting or some external factor? - is there noticeable room tone in the source track? You might be able to gate it out, or it might simply cause you fits, no matter what. And, the problems created by it will be more exposed with compression. - Make sure you have a high-pass first thing in the chain. Take out any LF noise that might be causing various problems with comp. - you might need a couple instances of a dynamics plug-in doing different jobs -- peak limiting, then the appropriate compression - take care with attack/release/ratio/knee settings. All will affect (some dramatically) the "quality" of the compression taking place. - if you've got a fair amount of EQ going on, split out your EQ into two instances. Put all your cut EQs *before* compression/limiting, and then all the boost EQs *after* compression/limiting. - if used, often you'll want the gate last thing in the chain. This is not a hard and fast rule, but it's typical. Hope that helps, Frank Mobile Audio |
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Frank Stearns wrote:
mcp6453 writes: Can you recommend a plug in compatible with Audacity that works well for compression and limiting of spoken voice recordings? The several I've tried are very mediocre. Free or reasonably low cost is important for this particular application. In this day of modern DSP, it's hard to believe a "stock" comp plug-in won't work -- are you sure it isn't a setting or some external factor? I think he's looking for an AGC rather than a conventional compressor... very smooth curve with no real knee in it, so no matter where your average level is it always gets moved to the nominal level. He also is likely looking for something that has a feature that locks the gain during silent passages, so the noise floor doesn't pump up and down audibly between words. I might suggest an Aphex 108 for actual hardware, but I really don't know anything about available plug-ins. It would seem like a really easy thing to code in Nyquist if you're into doing that kind of thing. Or if you can find someone who is. --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." |
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mcp6453 said...news:FqCdnaovheMRofjKnZ2dnUU7-
: Can you recommend a plug in compatible with Audacity that works well for compression and limiting of spoken voice recordings? The several I've tried are very mediocre. Free or reasonably low cost is important for this particular application. This one seems to be popular - https://theaudacitytopodcast.com/chr...or-plugin-for- audacity/ david |
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On 6/20/2016 8:02 AM, Scott Dorsey wrote:
[snip] He also is likely looking for something that has a feature that locks the gain during silent passages, so the noise floor doesn't pump up and down audibly between words. Scott, I have that exact problem with an voice/video recording I'm trying to fix. It has noise and it pumps it plenty between words. I've improved it a bit but it still sounds awful. Is there anything I could do besides going in there and manually dropping the gain between words? It's an hour long. Thanks! |
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On 6/20/2016 11:11 AM, gray_wolf wrote:
I have that exact problem with an voice/video recording I'm trying to fix. It has noise and it pumps it plenty between words. I've improved it a bit but it still sounds awful. Is there anything I could do besides going in there and manually dropping the gain between words? It's an hour long. Live with it this time, and next time record without the compressor. Then, if you feel that the recording needs some help, you can play with plug-in compressor settings on the recorded material without destroying anything. If you find something that works, you can save a copy of the track with that compression applied. -- For a good time, call http://mikeriversaudio.wordpress.com |
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gray_wolf writes:
On 6/20/2016 8:02 AM, Scott Dorsey wrote: [snip] He also is likely looking for something that has a feature that locks the gain during silent passages, so the noise floor doesn't pump up and down audibly between words. Scott, I have that exact problem with an voice/video recording I'm trying to fix. It has noise and it pumps it plenty between words. I've improved it a bit but it still sounds awful. Is there anything I could do besides going in there and manually dropping the gain between words? It's an hour long. Thanks! Properly adjusted gate as the last thing in the chain? Frank Mobile Audio -- |
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On 6/20/2016 10:36 AM, Mike Rivers wrote:
On 6/20/2016 11:11 AM, gray_wolf wrote: I have that exact problem with an voice/video recording I'm trying to fix. It has noise and it pumps it plenty between words. I've improved it a bit but it still sounds awful. Is there anything I could do besides going in there and manually dropping the gain between words? It's an hour long. Live with it this time, and next time record without the compressor. Then, if you feel that the recording needs some help, you can play with plug-in compressor settings on the recorded material without destroying anything. If you find something that works, you can save a copy of the track with that compression applied. Thanks Mike, I didn't record it. It was an interview about some historical stuff made with a cheep camcorder It was just a personal challenge for me. |
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On Saturday, June 18, 2016 at 8:20:36 AM UTC-4, mcp6453 wrote:
Can you recommend a plug in compatible with Audacity that works well for compression and limiting of spoken voice recordings? The several I've tried are very mediocre. Free or reasonably low cost is important for this particular application. You could always ask here.... http://forum.audacityteam.org/ .... they'd know the best! Jack |
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In article , gray_wolf wrote:
On 6/20/2016 8:02 AM, Scott Dorsey wrote: [snip] He also is likely looking for something that has a feature that locks the gain during silent passages, so the noise floor doesn't pump up and down audibly between words. Scott, I have that exact problem with an voice/video recording I'm trying to fix. It has noise and it pumps it plenty between words. I've improved it a bit but it still sounds awful. Is there anything I could do besides going in there and manually dropping the gain between words? It's an hour long. Use a compressor that is designed for speech! Like the aforementioned Aphex unit, or the ever-classic CBS Audimax. The noise will still be there and it won't be any more quiet, but it won't pump. --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." |
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gray_wolf wrote:
On 6/20/2016 10:36 AM, Mike Rivers wrote: On 6/20/2016 11:11 AM, gray_wolf wrote: I have that exact problem with an voice/video recording I'm trying to fix. It has noise and it pumps it plenty between words. I've improved it a bit but it still sounds awful. Is there anything I could do besides going in there and manually dropping the gain between words? It's an hour long. Live with it this time, and next time record without the compressor. Then, if you feel that the recording needs some help, you can play with plug-in compressor settings on the recorded material without destroying anything. If you find something that works, you can save a copy of the track with that compression applied. Thanks Mike, I didn't record it. It was an interview about some historical stuff made with a cheep camcorder It was just a personal challenge for me. Oh, you mean the recording was already made with bad AVC. Yeah, there is really nothing much you can do about that. --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." |
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On 20/06/2016 19:46, Scott Dorsey wrote:
In article , gray_wolf wrote: On 6/20/2016 8:02 AM, Scott Dorsey wrote: [snip] He also is likely looking for something that has a feature that locks the gain during silent passages, so the noise floor doesn't pump up and down audibly between words. Scott, I have that exact problem with an voice/video recording I'm trying to fix. It has noise and it pumps it plenty between words. I've improved it a bit but it still sounds awful. Is there anything I could do besides going in there and manually dropping the gain between words? It's an hour long. Use a compressor that is designed for speech! Like the aforementioned Aphex unit, or the ever-classic CBS Audimax. The noise will still be there and it won't be any more quiet, but it won't pump. --scott What about using a compression plugin, but set to increase the dynamic range? Not quite a noise gate, just dropping the gain when the level is low? -- Tciao for Now! John. |
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John Williamson wrote:
What about using a compression plugin, but set to increase the dynamic range? Not quite a noise gate, just dropping the gain when the level is low? You can try it, the problem is that once information about levels is lost you can't ever get it back... and there are a lot of possible input levels that can give you the same output level on the AGC. AGC on recording is seldom a good plan. --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." |
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On 20/06/2016 23:52, Scott Dorsey wrote:
John Williamson wrote: What about using a compression plugin, but set to increase the dynamic range? Not quite a noise gate, just dropping the gain when the level is low? You can try it, the problem is that once information about levels is lost you can't ever get it back... and there are a lot of possible input levels that can give you the same output level on the AGC. AGC on recording is seldom a good plan. --scott True, and with the decent converters now available it's not as necessary as it used to be in the days of cassette being the only portable option for most of us. A touch of limiting, maybe, and run the gain at a conservative level. -- Tciao for Now! John. |
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I see some newer compressors, along with the usual attack and release controls, also have a new HOLD control. You could use this new feature to hold the gain steady for a settable time before it starts to "release" M |
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On Monday, June 20, 2016 at 10:48:12 AM UTC-5, Frank Stearns wrote:
gray_wolf writes: On 6/20/2016 8:02 AM, Scott Dorsey wrote: [snip] He also is likely looking for something that has a feature that locks the gain during silent passages, so the noise floor doesn't pump up and down audibly between words. Scott, I have that exact problem with an voice/video recording I'm trying to fix. It has noise and it pumps it plenty between words. I've improved it a bit but it still sounds awful. Is there anything I could do besides going in there and manually dropping the gain between words? It's an hour long. Thanks! Properly adjusted gate as the last thing in the chain? I'd second this. |
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I see some newer compressors, along with the usual attack and release controls, also have a new HOLD control. CBS patented this in the early sixties. You could use this new feature to hold the gain steady for a settable time before it starts to "release" Indeed. --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." |
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On 21/06/2016 1:02 AM, Scott Dorsey wrote:
I think he's looking for an AGC rather than a conventional compressor... very smooth curve with no real knee in it, so no matter where your average level is it always gets moved to the nominal level. Waves (or similar) Vocal Rider. He also is likely looking for something that has a feature that locks the gain during silent passages, so the noise floor doesn't pump up and down audibly between words. A strategically-place noise gate. geoff |
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On Tuesday, June 21, 2016 at 3:22:58 AM UTC-4, John Williamson wrote:
On 20/06/2016 23:52, Scott Dorsey wrote: John Williamson wrote: What about using a compression plugin, but set to increase the dynamic range? Not quite a noise gate, just dropping the gain when the level is low? You can try it, the problem is that once information about levels is lost you can't ever get it back... and there are a lot of possible input levels that can give you the same output level on the AGC. AGC on recording is seldom a good plan. --scott True, and with the decent converters now available Oh, yeah, those early, nasty converters!! Sadly, I had to research myself why a lot of early CDs lacked any zest, and it had absolutely nothing to do with "converters(tors)". Lucky, one of us is actually listening to music, rather than organized "noise". Jack it's not as necessary as it used to be in the days of cassette being the only portable option for most of us. A touch of limiting, maybe, and run the gain at a conservative level. -- Tciao for Now! John. |
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