I just picked up a brand new pair of JBL Century Gold Limited Edition
speakers. They are still sealed in the original box. Before I break
the seal, I was wondering if anybody knows what they might be worth in
their "virgin" condition.

The sales Brochure is at:
http://www.lansingheritage.org/html/...ntury-gold.htm

JBL's page for them is at:
http://www.jbl.com/home/products/pro...eckProd uct=Y

Any ideas as to what they are worth? The retail was $5000! Yikes!

Steve

On 30/1/04 5:47, in article ,
"Steven W. Decato" wrote:

I was wondering if anybody knows what they might be worth in
their "virgin" condition.

Bluebook value, $900. Less if they're hot.

Speakers have 100% markup to the dealer, so prices fall quick.

"OFFICIAL RAM BLUEBOOK VALUATION" wrote in
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On 30/1/04 5:47, in article
,
"Steven W. Decato" wrote:

I was wondering if anybody knows what they might be worth in
their "virgin" condition.

Bluebook value, $900.


Less if they're hot.
They're not, unlike the scam being run by Brian L. McCarty, which is full of
fake identities and nonexistent associations -- when it isn't actually using
stolen identities.

Speakers have 100% markup to the dealer, so prices fall quick.
No more markup than any other consumer item.

The above forged post was made by Brian L. McCarty.

Brian L. McCarty is currently attempting investment fraud. McCarty is an
American citizen, living as an exile in Australia. Please read below for the
details. My personal opinion can be viewed at http://www.worldjazz.tv.

The website is remarkable in that it does not contain a single truthful
statement. It changes constantly. Always prominent are nonexistent people
as frontmen, and affiliation with nonexistent events. Previous versions have
also featured fictional alliances with large companies, and with nonexistent
companies. From time to time, McCarty also steals the names of actual people
to decorate his websites. For example, in the case of
http://www.coralseastudios.com, my name, Robert Morein, was once featured as
an "endorsement."

From the current version of the website:


WORLDJAZZ NEWS
IPO ALLOCATIONS NOW UNDERWAY
(for a fraudulent enterprise, consisting of fictitious people, while the
real "owner" remains hidden)
U.S. BASED BROKERS:
SEC FORM 6 - FAX TO: (270) 812-2208
(Like hell would they go for this scam)
INTERNATIONAL BROKER/DEALERS:
SEC FORM 6 (or equivalent) FAX: +852 3015-2696
(I don't think so)
SIGNED AND FAXED FORM 6'S MUST BE RECEIVED IN ORDER TO GUARANTEE ALLOCATION.
DON'T MISS OUT ON THIS EXCITING OPPORTUNITY!
(to keep Brian L. McCarty off the dole?)
MOSCOW CENTRAL TV: Jazz programming to be supplied by WorldJAZZ to Moscow
Central Television beginning 2004
(A complete lie. Moscow Central TV is informed about the scam.)

TOP FOUR U.S. CABLE TV COMPANIES: Negotiations for carriage rights
currently underway
(probably means Brian wrote them a letter in the name of one of his fake
frontmen)


EVENT SPONSORSHIP: WorldJAZZ has been named OFFICIAL CO-SPONSOR of the 2004
Jersey Jazz Bass Festival (second year running!)
(Nonexistent Event! Total Fabrication!)


Live broadcast planned September 22-25, 2004.
(of what, a blank screen?)


DR. KRISHNA MAHBREN Named as CEO of WorldJAZZ
(Dr. Krishna Mahbren is a nonexistent person)


JAZZ MUSIC LINKS COURTESY OF
(an irrelevant collection of links vastly inferior to what Google provides,
to give the impression Brian is actually providing a public service. NOT! )

The author of the above post under the name "OFFICIAL RAM BLUEBOOK
VALUATION" is actually Brian L. McCarty, a notorious scammer, whose
current website, http://www.worldjazz.com, is a farrago of lies, fictitious
front people, and nonexistent associations. Speculation as to why McCarty
viciously attacks individuals who at the worst, might have slight
irregularities in business registrations, revolves around his suddenly
leaving the United States in the late 1990's. One rumor has it that McCarty
was about to be charged with a sex crime, and that he avoided prosecution by
leaving. It is possible McCarty paid off the victim's family.

Once in Australia, McCarty founded Coral Seas Studios, which quickly became
financially insolvent. Perhaps the major backer, ABN Amro, already detected
anomalies in McCarty's personality. Following that business failure, which
became a minor issue in the reelection of P.M. John Howard, McCarty
concentrated on funding a second initiative, "WorldJAZZ", a scheme for
Internet broadcasting. But with his reputation damaged and cut off from
legitmate business activity, McCarty's predatory tendency came more to the
fore. His website became ever more devious in an attempt to lure investors.

In 2003, notices appeared in several online publications that McCarty was
producing jazz broadcast material for Gene Parrish
(http://www.worldwidejazz.com ) Notices appeared in a publication of the
Embassy of France, and in one other publication. Mr. Parrish is a noted NPR
jazz broadcast host. When contacted, it was apparent that Parrish had never
heard of McCarty. While I cannot prove that McCarty posted these bogus
notices, he certainly had the motive to do so.

Following the exposure of the false producing notices, McCarty's name
completely vanished from the Internet. He resorted entirely to false
identities to create business partners who do not exist. As of 1/14/03, a
quick glance at http://www.worldjazz.com, discloses the following:

(Note: the following actually applies to the version of the website prior to
1/20/04, but it is relevant nevertheless:

1. Clicking on the banner "WorldJAZZ" produces an unresolved link to K1
Ventures, the largest venture capital company in Singapore. In discussion
with that company's secretary, she disavowed any connection between them and
McCarty, and was shocked at his implication that they were involved.

2. "Dr. Krishna Mahbren" is derived from a real person, Krishna Mahadoo,
V.P. of Beverly Hills Film Studios, a pink-sheet stock. McCarty cruises the
Internet for companies that don't answer the phone. McCarty made Mahadoo an
employee of that company's stock transfer agent, First American Stock
Transfer of Phoenix. When I pointed this out in a usenet post and notified
Mr. Mahdoo by mail, McCarty changed the company to "First American Stock of
Denver." Then he changed Mahadoo to Mahbren, and tacked on a "Dr." to the
phony name.

3. The claim that Moscow Central TV is to use material supplied by WorldJAZZ
is doubtful, as they were notified by mail. This claim has been made for the
better part of a year. When the date expires, McCarty simply creates a new
one.

4. "Event Sponsorship 2nd Year Running". This event does not exist. There is
no "Jersey Jazz Bass Festival." Previously, the website has exhibited a link

to the Island of Jersey in the English Channel. This locale has a surf
fishing festival, the Jersey Bass festival. There is no music festival. In
the past, association was advertised with "jazz musician" Peter Thliveros,
who is, in fact, a professional bass fisherman, not a musician.

5. The website is registered to "David Ellison", a fictitious person. In
the past, many different fictitious persons have been used, in conjunction
with yahoo mailboxes. Among McCarty's aliases, we have: Krishna Mahadoo,
Anthony Ramallo, David Ellison, David C.L. Feng, Ying Hong Huang, Lee
Hodges, Melinda Hsu, Melinda Shu, Robert Morein, Robert X Morein, Sylvan
Morein, Sylvan X Morein, et al.

6. The website morphs constantly. McCarty combs the Internet for identities
to steal. He chooses victims who do not represent themselves on the Web, and
are not easily reached by phone.

7. McCarty's other website, http://www.coralseastudios.com, has a similar
history. In the past, McCarty has actually used MY name as an endorsement,
apparently as a taunt, even though it makes extremely bad business sense.
Fortunately, Coral Seas went belly up, although the website lives on as a
zombie.

The obvious question is, if McCarty is so anxious to scam, why does he make
a constant racket under easily detectable fictitious names? It appears that
part of McCarty's mental illness is a distortion of reality. McCarty has an
obsession with the formal aspects of registering a business. To him, the "in
print" appearance is all that counts. It doesn't occur that people can
detect the reality that lies beyond. To McCarty fictitious names and posting
aliases are a real shield, just like a cat will crawl into a shopping bag to
hide.

McCarty had an early scheme for Internet radio. He claims to have sold
musical performance properties and/or a business plan to Black Entertainment
Television for $9.2M. Subsequently, he left Los Angeles. One unsubstantiated
rumor is that he left to avoid prosecution for a sex crime, presumably by
paying off the victim or family. Once in Australia, he made the acquaintance
of the brother of P.M. John Howard, who introduced him to contacts at ABN
Amro, an investment banking firm. They created a business plan for some kind
of a sound studio, still represented by the website
http://www.coralseastudios.com. After approximately a year, ABN withdrew
from partnership, but left the studio project still solvent. Some time
later, it went bankrupt or nearly so, owing $270,000 to it's employees. At
this point, Australia's entitlement law kicked in, paying the employees
monies owed them, with the exception of codirectors McCarty and Jeff Wexler.

It would appear that McCarty's enterprises failed because he has some kind
of mental imbalance, which exhibits signs of both schizophrenia and
obsessive-compulsive disorder. The impersonations which he makes of me are
a fraction of the numerous identities which he has used in the past, and
continues to use, on occasion, in the present. McCarty may actually believe
he is the person who he impersonates. Many of the identities are of
elaborate construction, taking some six months or more to take shape.
McCarty seems to have a magical belief that use of false identities provides
a shield.

In Australia, McCarty lived, and may continue to reside, in a condo at 65
Vasey Esplanade, Trinty Beach,
Cairns, Queensland, Australia. I periodically check to determine if he
relocates.

But why would McCarty want to escape his own identity so badly? Speculation
centers around the possibility that he did something not socially acceptable
in Los Angeles County in the late 90', possibly a sex crime.

Hot as in stolen? I picked these up from the JBL dealer. They were
lost in the warehouse.

OFFICIAL RAM BLUEBOOK VALUATION wrote in message om...
On 30/1/04 5:47, in article ,
"Steven W. Decato" wrote:

I was wondering if anybody knows what they might be worth in
their "virgin" condition.

Bluebook value, $900. Less if they're hot.

Speakers have 100% markup to the dealer, so prices fall quick.

Don't worry about Brian, he is our nutbag troll. According to him,
everything is either stolen or overpriced. He is just unbalanced.

You are incredibly lucky to get those speakers, especially sealed. I wish I
could give you a real world estimate, but I don't know of any selling
recently to tell you for sure.

I couldn't resist. I took them out of the boxes and hooked them up.

I can't begin to explain how they sound. A friend of mine was
visiting at the time. We both just sat there with our mouths open. I
had no idea speakers could sound like that! So crisp! So full! I
stayed up until 3am just listening to them.

As my friend left he said "Don't sell them. Ever!"

I won't.

This is 1996 technology. What speakers would compare in quality
today? I'm a returning audiphile. I guess I'm going through my
midlife crisis since I picked up a couple old Sansui amps and was
looking for the sound I remember from the 70's.

Everyone argues that Satellite speakers are the say to go -- but I
disagree.

The same shop has a pair of Infinity Delta 60's that also impressed me
for $350 a pair. I'm tempted to pick them up too, but they are huge!

Steve

Steve,

I add my congratulations: the commemorative L100s undoubtedly use the
best parts, materials and cabinet making skills. Add to that the highest
tolerance components that JBL can make--since ethis is a statement
piece--and a classic design (the 12-inch LF, 2 cu. ft. volume control
monitor), and I can well imagine the impact they had on you, especially
if you hadn't been listening to anything very good lately.

I'd love to know exactly what drivers they use in the Century Gold.
Surely there's some sort of owner's manual. You'd be doing audio
enthusiasts and the memory of James B. Lansing a great service if you
could scan or photocopy the manual and upload or send it to the fellow
that runs the Lansing Heritage Web site (www.audioheritage.org).

I'd also encourage you to listen to the L100s with a good amp. By that I
mean better than a vintage Sanui integrated or receiver. And by that I
mean spending 1000 to 1500 on a preamp and power amp (or getting lucky
at a garage sale or pawnshap or estate sale). But nott necessarily more
than that.

Anyway,

happy listening!

Regards,

Joe.

Steven W. Decato wrote:
I couldn't resist. I took them out of the boxes and hooked them up.

I can't begin to explain how they sound. A friend of mine was
visiting at the time. We both just sat there with our mouths open. I
had no idea speakers could sound like that! So crisp! So full! I
stayed up until 3am just listening to them.

As my friend left he said "Don't sell them. Ever!"

I won't.

This is 1996 technology. What speakers would compare in quality
today? I'm a returning audiphile. I guess I'm going through my
midlife crisis since I picked up a couple old Sansui amps and was
looking for the sound I remember from the 70's.

Everyone argues that Satellite speakers are the say to go -- but I
disagree.

The same shop has a pair of Infinity Delta 60's that also impressed me
for $350 a pair. I'm tempted to pick them up too, but they are huge!

Steve

Joel,

The owners manual can be downloaded in PDF format from the JBL
Website. Also see http://www.lansingheritage.org/html/...ntury-gold.htm



I'd love to know exactly what drivers they use in the Century Gold.
Surely there's some sort of owner's manual. You'd be doing audio
enthusiasts and the memory of James B. Lansing a great service if you
could scan or photocopy the manual and upload or send it to the fellow
that runs the Lansing Heritage Web site (www.audioheritage.org).

Why would a classic Sansui amp not be good enough? The specs on the
late 1970 and early 1980 model amps are better than those you can
purchase today. I've listed to many different amps, and know that
some are better matches for certain speakers than others. The worst
ones seem to be the $350 AV amps that claim 100 watts per channel.
Surprisingly enough, right now I'm using a 1985 vintage Fisher
Receiver RS-929 (100 watts per channel). The Century Gold speakers
are rated at 200 watts per channel.

I have two different amps headed my way from EBAY.
A Sansui B2101 stand alone amp
http://www.classicsansui.net/Seperates.htm
and an integrated AU-G99X http://www.sansui.us/AU-G99X.htm

Steve




I'd also encourage you to listen to the L100s with a good amp. By that I
mean better than a vintage Sanui integrated or receiver. And by that I
mean spending 1000 to 1500 on a preamp and power amp (or getting lucky
at a garage sale or pawnshap or estate sale). But nott necessarily more
than that.

Anyway,

happy listening!

Regards,

Joe.

Steven W. Decato wrote:
I couldn't resist. I took them out of the boxes and hooked them up.

I can't begin to explain how they sound. A friend of mine was
visiting at the time. We both just sat there with our mouths open. I
had no idea speakers could sound like that! So crisp! So full! I
stayed up until 3am just listening to them.

As my friend left he said "Don't sell them. Ever!"

I won't.

This is 1996 technology. What speakers would compare in quality
today? I'm a returning audiphile. I guess I'm going through my
midlife crisis since I picked up a couple old Sansui amps and was
looking for the sound I remember from the 70's.

Everyone argues that Satellite speakers are the say to go -- but I
disagree.

The same shop has a pair of Infinity Delta 60's that also impressed me
for $350 a pair. I'm tempted to pick them up too, but they are huge!

Steve