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In the article there is a link to the kessler youtube mentioned below.
Apanel of audio folk discuss the current poor health of the audio biz and customer decline. But in the article there is a small glimmer of light. http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/25/ga...eeks.html?_r=0 Ken Kessler, a veteran audio journalist, summed up the industry's problems last year at an audiophile conference in Denver. Speaking to a roomful of mostly middle-aged men, he said: "In the '60s and '70s, if you opened up Esquire or Playboy and they showed a bachelor pad, there was a killer sound system in it. Now, there's an iPod dock." |
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ScottW wrote: On Thursday, July 25, 2013 5:57:19 AM UTC-7, wrote: In the article there is a link to the kessler youtube mentioned below. Apanel of audio folk discuss the current poor health of the audio biz and customer decline. But in the article there is a small glimmer of light. http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/25/ga...eeks.html?_r=0 They run one of these articles every 6 months or so...and they all lack credibility with lines like this leading into a segment on resurgence of vinyl. "Then he heard one of his older brother’s albums, “A Night at the Opera” by Queen, in 5.1 surround sound. “I remember listening to it in my room and hearing all the voices,” Mr. Damski said. “I thought, ‘Oh, there’s another layer to this I wasn’t aware of.’ ” ScottW There IS a resurgence in vinyl. One would have to be really out of the loop to not have noticed it. There are more 'tables, arms and cartridges on the market today than at any time since the advent of the CD (~1983). And the people in this business MUST be selling this equipment to SOMEONE. After all, they keep introducing new models and brands at all price points (except the very bottom - the $100 Japanese direct-drive table with the linear-tracking arm is a thing of the past), but every other price-point, all the way up to $100,000 turntables and $15,000 phono cartridges seem amply represented. --- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: --- |
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wrote: In the article there is a link to the kessler youtube mentioned below. Apanel of audio folk discuss the current poor health of the audio biz and customer decline. But in the article there is a small glimmer of light. http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/25/ga...eeks.html?_r=0 Ken Kessler, a veteran audio journalist, summed up the industry's problems last year at an audiophile conference in Denver. Speaking to a roomful of mostly middle-aged men, he said: "In the '60s and '70s, if you opened up Esquire or Playboy and they showed a bachelor pad, there was a killer sound system in it. Now, there's an iPod dock." Audio, as a hobby, is in decline because young people's tastes have changed and therefore no new blood is coming into the hobby. Youngsters, today don't actually care about listening to music any more. Nor do they care about the quality of reproduction in the music that they DO hear. Music has become, to a large extent, a commodity among the young. The idea of sitting down and actually listening to music for the SOUND of music has become passé. Sure, they want their iPod instruments filled with as many songs as will fit and they pirate them, trade them and let them play into their earbuds as a running, background obbligato to their lives. Music plays as they jog, work out in the gym, even SWIM! Music plays in their ears as they do homework, on the job, and I'm sure they'd listen in class at school if the teachers would let them! It's like they're hearing music more and enjoying it less. And I'm not exaggerating either. A friend of mine has a 16-year old son. He's physically attached to his iPhone. It would likely require a medical operation to remove the earbuds from his ears. He listens constantly around the house, only he's not *really* listening, he's doing other things. The music is just "there". When asked why he and his peers do that, his answer is "... if we have the music on, we don't have to think." His dad has a pretty good audio system. The kid can use it if he wishes. Needless to say, he never touches the thing - has no interest in it and can't understand what his dad sees in sitting down and actually immersing himself in the sound of good music being well reproduced. Not audiophile material, he. --- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: --- |
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John Stone wrote: On 7/25/13 2:32 PM, in article , "Audio_Empire" wrote: Audio, as a hobby, is in decline because young people's tastes have changed and therefore no new blood is coming into the hobby. Youngsters, today don't actually care about listening to music any more. Nor do they care about the quality of reproduction in the music that they DO hear. Music has become, to a large extent, a commodity among the young. The idea of sitting down and actually listening to music for the SOUND of music has become passé. AND..... There IS a resurgence in vinyl. One would have to be really out of the loop to not have noticed it. There are more 'tables, arms and cartridges on the market today than at any time since the advent of the CD (~1983). And the people in this business MUST be selling this equipment to SOMEONE. Ok, how do you square these two statements of yours? You have to care enough about listening to music to go through all the trouble of doing it with vinyl, right? Or are these new turntable buyers just "hipsters" that own these things because they're "cool", but use them when they want to show off to their hipster friends? Or maybe a bunch of us old farts are out buying their last turntables that they can bury with us? Whatever, it doesn't seem to bode well for the market over the long term. You're right. The market is dying. If there is little new blood in a hobby, attrition thins it out over time. But, interestingly, there are a lot of middle-aged nuvo-riche who want to equip their "macmansions" with a music room/home theater with the best audio equipment in it that money can buy. These are not audiophiles by any stretch of the imagination. They just want the "best" (read that as "most expensive") and they hire consultants to make those buying decisions for them (for a fee, of course). I was in such a home locally, here, about a year ago. The guy had a $50,000 Walker turntable rig, Mark Levinson electronics and Magico Q5 speakers. The system probably cost at least a quarter-million dollars. From what I could see, the guy had fewer than 20 CDs and about 4 LPs. When I expressed an interest in his system, he was happy to show it off to me, but really knew nothing about it (I knew far more about than he did) and volunteered that he didn't listen to it much because he didn't care than much about music. He also had a Steinway concert grand in that room with a DisKlavier system installed in it. He played that for us too, but again, he "...didn't use it very much". I had to resist a strong urge to punch his lights out! Yeah, life just ain't fair when the undeserving can afford things that many of us would give our eye-teeth for and yet they are totally indifferent to them. --- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: --- |
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On Thursday, July 25, 2013 1:50:31 PM UTC-7, John Stone wrote:
On 7/25/13 2:32 PM, in article , =20 "Audio_Empire" wrote: =20 =20 =20 Audio, as a hobby, is in decline because young people's tastes have =20 changed and therefore no new blood is coming into the hobby. Youngsters= , =20 today don't actually care about listening to music any more. Nor do the= y =20 care about the quality of reproduction in the music that they DO hear. =20 Music has become, to a large extent, a commodity among the young. The =20 idea of sitting down and actually listening to music for the SOUND of =20 music has become pass=E9. =20 =20 =20 AND..... =20 =20 =20 There IS a resurgence in vinyl. One would have to be really out of the =20 loop to not have noticed it. There are more 'tables, arms and cartridge= s =20 on the market today than at any time since the advent of the CD (~1983)= .. =20 And the people in this business MUST be selling this equipment to =20 SOMEONE. =20 =20 =20 Ok, how do you square these two statements of yours? You have to care eno= ugh =20 about listening to music to go through all the trouble of doing it with =20 vinyl, right? Or are these new turntable buyers just "hipsters" that own =20 these things because they're "cool", but use them when they want to show = off =20 to their hipster friends? Or maybe a bunch of us old farts are out buyin= g =20 their last turntables that they can bury with us? Whatever, it doesn't s= eem =20 to bode well for the market over the long term. That is easy to square up. The audiophile community as a whole is eroding b= ut within that community there has been substantial support and growth of h= igh end vinyl playback. Hipsters are buying the cheap new turntables but ob= viously audiophiles are the ones buying the megabuck gear that is still bei= ng produced and still being bought. Actually when one looks at the vast arr= ay of high end audio gear being made these days it's kinda hard to believe = the market is really all that bad. |
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wrote: On Thursday, July 25, 2013 1:50:31 PM UTC-7, John Stone wrote: On 7/25/13 2:32 PM, in article , "Audio_Empire" wrote: Audio, as a hobby, is in decline because young people's tastes have changed and therefore no new blood is coming into the hobby. Youngsters, today don't actually care about listening to music any more. Nor do they care about the quality of reproduction in the music that they DO hear. Music has become, to a large extent, a commodity among the young. The idea of sitting down and actually listening to music for the SOUND of music has become passé. AND..... There IS a resurgence in vinyl. One would have to be really out of the loop to not have noticed it. There are more 'tables, arms and cartridges on the market today than at any time since the advent of the CD (~1983). And the people in this business MUST be selling this equipment to SOMEONE. Ok, how do you square these two statements of yours? You have to care enough about listening to music to go through all the trouble of doing it with vinyl, right? Or are these new turntable buyers just "hipsters" that own these things because they're "cool", but use them when they want to show off to their hipster friends? Or maybe a bunch of us old farts are out buying their last turntables that they can bury with us? Whatever, it doesn't seem to bode well for the market over the long term. That is easy to square up. The audiophile community as a whole is eroding but within that community there has been substantial support and growth of high end vinyl playback. Hipsters are buying the cheap new turntables but obviously audiophiles are the ones buying the megabuck gear that is still being produced and still being bought. Actually when one looks at the vast array of high end audio gear being made these days it's kinda hard to believe the market is really all that bad. If we weren't constantly being told that the market is dying, I would say that you certainly can't tell by looking at it... I've been attending the Bay Area Hi-Fi Show (next one is Aug 9) and seems to me that attendance is bigger every year. Again, the patient looks pretty healthy to me, but the doctor says he's terminal. Who am I to argue? --- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: --- |
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C'mon guys--hi-fi has **always** been a minority option.
I went back to Canada and visited some old friends a few years ago. There were two who had the most interest in music and hi-fi and I had helped them pick out some good equipment to satisfy their ears. I was really looking forward to talking to them, and listening to whatever they had now. 30 years on and they still had the same gear I'd helped them audition with the exception of adding a CD player. And they had forgotten all they knew about setting it up. They were amazed at what they'd been missing when the re-set-up was complete. None of my other old friends had anything to notice at all. A clock radio on the 'fridge, and some ran the odd bit of music through the $300 surround sound package that came with the TV. As far as sales and shows go, there are a lot of people in the world now, and lots of money, so even a minority can be significant. Greg |
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ScottW wrote: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/25/ga...eeks.html?_r=0 They run one of these articles every 6 months or so...and they all lack credibility with lines like this leading into a segment on resurgence of vinyl. "Then he heard one of his older brother’s albums, “A Night at the Opera” by Queen, in 5.1 surround sound. “I remember listening to it in my room and hearing all the voices,” Mr. Damski said. “I thought, ‘Oh, there’s another layer to this I wasn’t aware of.’ ” There IS a resurgence in vinyl. That may be true but how one is led to it by listening to a 5.1 remix of Queen's Night at the Opera is unclear. The Queen anecdote wasn't about lps, but was an example of one of "many younger music fans [...] seeking a listening experience that goes beyond an MP3 and a cheap pair of earbuds." Stephen |
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... In the article there is a link to the kessler youtube mentioned below. Apanel of audio folk discuss the current poor health of the audio biz and customer decline. But in the article there is a small glimmer of light. http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/25/ga...eeks.html?_r=0 Ken Kessler, a veteran audio journalist, summed up the industry's problems last year at an audiophile conference in Denver. Speaking to a roomful of mostly middle-aged men, he said: "In the '60s and '70s, if you opened up Esquire or Playboy and they showed a bachelor pad, there was a killer sound system in it. Now, there's an iPod dock." The real problem is that good high fidelity has become very pervasive, and there's no longer any need to spend the big bucks or waste a lot of space to obtain it just about anywhere. The new market for things like iPod/iPad docks and high quality earphones has immense amounts of cash in it, which overall offsets losses elsewhere. There's no need for me to drive across town to suffer with a hovering salesman who seems to think he's technically competent, and instead just click a few boxes at Amazon and wait 3 days. |
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On Friday, July 26, 2013 11:11:48 AM UTC-7, ScottW wrote:
On Thursday, July 25, 2013 11:46:35 AM UTC-7, Audio_Empire wrote: In article , ScottW wrote: On Thursday, July 25, 2013 5:57:19 AM UTC-7, wrote: In the article there is a link to the kessler youtube mentioned below. Apanel of audio folk discuss the current poor health of the audio biz and customer decline. But in the article there is a small glimmer of light. http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/25/ga...eeks.html?_r=0 They run one of these articles every 6 months or so...and they all lack credibility with lines like this leading into a segment on resurgence of vinyl. "Then he heard one of his older brother’s albums, “A Night at the Opera” by Queen, in 5.1 surround sound. “I remember listening to it in my room and hearing all the voices,” Mr. Damski said. “I thought, ‘Oh, there’s another layer to this I wasn’t aware of.’ ” ScottW There IS a resurgence in vinyl. That may be true but how one is led to it by listening to a 5.1 remix of Queen's Night at the Opera is unclear. Unclear? It should be downright opaque! There is no VINYL 5.1 remix of anything. One would have to be really out of the loop to not have noticed it. There are more 'tables, arms and cartridges on the market today than at any time since the advent of the CD (~1983).. And the people in this business MUST be selling this equipment to SOMEONE. After all, they keep introducing new models and brands at all price points (except the very bottom - the $100 Japanese direct-drive table with the linear-tracking arm is a thing of the past), but every other price-point, all the way up to $100,000 turntables and $15,000 phono cartridges seem amply represented. Vinyl will have a future when someone starts manufacturing cutting lathes again. Until then this "resurgence" is a dead cat bouncing. I'm sorry but you seem to miss the point. Vinyl's resurgence is not now, nor will it ever be on the scale that it once was when vinyl (along with R-to-R tape) was THE source of a music collection. But it has gone from being a moribund market to a healthy one. Can't say how long it will last, but right now the existing equipment for mastering new discs seems to more than able to keep up with demand. Don't get me wrong, I'm a fan of vinyl. But the price of new high quality vinyl is in the same death spiral that high end (and I don't mean performance by high end, I mean price) equipment is in. Frankly, I don't think it's about "new, high quality" vinyl as much as it is about the millions of existing LPs out there being bought second-hand or part of extensive vinyl collections belonging to existing audiophiles. That's my interest in all things phono. I have 5000 LPs and I like to play them.. I see a factory sealed version of my Classic Records Zeppelin IV is being peddled for nearly $270 on elusive disc. I'm sure the next generation of audiophiles is just dying to have it, literally . Anyone who would pay that much for a Led Zepplin LP deserves what they get. OTOH, IMHO, the shift in peoples' tastes away from classical music and toward pop is at least partially responsible in the decline of the audiophile hobby. Studio produced music lacks so many of the things that drove the hi-fi market for so long, that there is a perception that the level of reproduction required by audiophiles simply doesn't do that much for pop. As long as the reproduction provides big bass, sparkling highs, and fairly low distortion (things that are, as Mr. Kruger states "pervasive" and pretty easily and cheaply come by), that any subtlety of performance is merely gilding a lily and deemed unnecessary. |
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On Friday, July 26, 2013 3:31:26 PM UTC-7, Arny Krueger wrote:
wrote in message ... In the article there is a link to the kessler youtube mentioned below. Apanel of audio folk discuss the current poor health of the audio biz and customer decline. But in the article there is a small glimmer of light. http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/25/ga...eeks.html?_r=0 Ken Kessler, a veteran audio journalist, summed up the industry's problems last year at an audiophile conference in Denver. Speaking to a roomful of mostly middle-aged men, he said: "In the '60s and '70s, if you opened up Esquire or Playboy and they showed a bachelor pad, there was a killer sound system in it. Now, there's an iPod dock." The real problem is that good high fidelity has become very pervasive, and there's no longer any need to spend the big bucks or waste a lot of space to obtain it just about anywhere. Ah, the "party line". The new market for things like iPod/iPad docks and high quality earphones has immense amounts of cash in it, which overall offsets losses elsewhere. There's no need for me to drive across town to suffer with a hovering salesman who seems to think he's technically competent, and instead just click a few boxes at Amazon and wait 3 days. Well, that's true, anyway. Sad really. Brick & Mortar stores bring a sense of community to the local audiophiles. A place to meet like-minded spirits. With that fast disappearing, audiophiles will be even more isolated from one another. |
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"Audio_Empire" wrote in message
... On Friday, July 26, 2013 3:31:26 PM UTC-7, Arny Krueger wrote: The real problem is that good high fidelity has become very pervasive, and there's no longer any need to spend the big bucks or waste a lot of space to obtain it just about anywhere. Ah, the "party line". As if the writings of Ken Kessler aren't representative of a party line. It's just a different party line. The new market for things like iPod/iPad docks and high quality earphones has immense amounts of cash in it, which overall offsets losses elsewhere. There's no need for me to drive across town to suffer with a hovering salesman who seems to think he's technically competent, and instead just click a few boxes at Amazon and wait 3 days. Well, that's true, anyway. Sad really. Brick & Mortar stores bring a sense of community to the local audiophiles. A place to meet like-minded spirits. With that fast disappearing, audiophiles will be even more isolated from one another. There are numerous online forums that are providing a sense of community to a wide range of audiophiles, again away from hovering salesmen. |
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"Arny Krueger" wrote: "Audio_Empire" wrote in message ... On Friday, July 26, 2013 3:31:26 PM UTC-7, Arny Krueger wrote: The real problem is that good high fidelity has become very pervasive, and there's no longer any need to spend the big bucks or waste a lot of space to obtain it just about anywhere. Ah, the "party line". As if the writings of Ken Kessler aren't representative of a party line. It's just a different party line. agreed, but I don't remember Ken Kessler being mentioned specifically. The new market for things like iPod/iPad docks and high quality earphones has immense amounts of cash in it, which overall offsets losses elsewhere. There's no need for me to drive across town to suffer with a hovering salesman who seems to think he's technically competent, and instead just click a few boxes at Amazon and wait 3 days. Well, that's true, anyway. Sad really. Brick & Mortar stores bring a sense of community to the local audiophiles. A place to meet like-minded spirits. With that fast disappearing, audiophiles will be even more isolated from one another. There are numerous online forums that are providing a sense of community to a wide range of audiophiles, again away from hovering salesmen. I don't know what kind of high-end stores you've been exposed to, but the ones with which I'm familiar were enthusiast owned and run, and didn't have "hovering salesmen". They were there if needed, but if an audiophile gab-fest were under way, 9 times out of 10 they were right in the thick of it. --- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: --- |
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ScottW wrote: On Tuesday, July 30, 2013 10:44:52 AM UTC-7, Audio_Empire wrote: I don't know what kind of high-end stores you've been exposed to, but the ones with which I'm familiar were enthusiast owned and run, and didn't have "hovering salesmen". They were there if needed, but if an audiophile gab-fest were under way, 9 times out of 10 they were right in the thick of it. There seems to be a trend toward appointment only outlets. I suspect this is largely driven by the lack of sufficient business to support a full-time staff. The few "gab-fests" I've overheard usually don't last long before someone declares that most audiophiles can't or won't hear what is plain as day. ScottW --- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: --- I'm often very surprised by the number of so-called audiophiles who have never bothered to train "their ears" to HEAR audio. Our ears can be great tools for evaluating audio performance. Of course, the "ear'" is also subject to subconscious bias as well, and one must also train their hearing against falling into that trap. It can be done, but not 100%, so one should check their findings against some kind of bias-controlled testing procedure. There are also some rules of thumb: The main thing that thing one must take into account when training one's ears to "hear" hi-fi is to be used to hearing live, unamplified music and hear it often. You can't hear what a piece of equipment is doing either right or wrong if you don't know what music is SUPPOSED to sound like. If there is a such thing as a "golden eared audiophile" it is one who has trained himself to listen critically, by knowing what differs from real in reproduced music and who can quantify, in his own mind what those difference are. --- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: --- |
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On 2013-07-25 19:32:58 +0000, Audio_Empire said:
In article , wrote: In the article there is a link to the kessler youtube mentioned below. Apanel of audio folk discuss the current poor health of the audio biz and customer decline. But in the article there is a small glimmer of light. http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/25/ga...eeks.html?_r=0 Ken Kessler, a veteran audio journalist, summed up the industry's problems last year at an audiophile conference in Denver. Speaking to a roomful of mostly middle-aged men, he said: "In the '60s and '70s, if you opened up Esquire or Playboy and they showed a bachelor pad, there was a killer sound system in it. Now, there's an iPod dock." Audio, as a hobby, is in decline because young people's tastes have changed and therefore no new blood is coming into the hobby. Youngsters, today don't actually care about listening to music any more. Nor do they care about the quality of reproduction in the music that they DO hear. Music has become, to a large extent, a commodity among the young. The idea of sitting down and actually listening to music for the SOUND of music has become passé. Sure, they want their iPod instruments filled with as many songs as will fit and they pirate them, trade them and let them play into their earbuds as a running, background obbligato to their lives. Music plays as they jog, work out in the gym, even SWIM! Music plays in their ears as they do homework, on the job, and I'm sure they'd listen in class at school if the teachers would let them! It's like they're hearing music more and enjoying it less. And I'm not exaggerating either. A friend of mine has a 16-year old son. He's physically attached to his iPhone. It would likely require a medical operation to remove the earbuds from his ears. He listens constantly around the house, only he's not *really* listening, he's doing other things. The music is just "there". When asked why he and his peers do that, his answer is "... if we have the music on, we don't have to think." His dad has a pretty good audio system. The kid can use it if he wishes. Needless to say, he never touches the thing - has no interest in it and can't understand what his dad sees in sitting down and actually immersing himself in the sound of good music being well reproduced. Not audiophile material, he. --- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: --- I hardly think audio as a hobby is in decline. Young people listen to digital music, but there is a huge range of quality there. Some groups like Nine Inch Nails release their music in 24/96 which is, by any *scientific* measure, superior to vinyl. Apple's earbud headsets are pretty decent in quality for what they are. The older ones were better than the new ones, but when the idea of portable music players is brought up, hardly anybody is interested in re-amplifying their iPod's music output into a little tube amp setup and pumping it into a broadcast engineering-style set of headphones, the bulk of which exceeds the iPod itself. If you take issue with this, please tell me how many stages of re-amplification are needed, considering the iPod's amp puts out enough juice to power even large headphones! The other thing that one has to bear in mind, is that the younger crowd doesn't have any interest in prestige-level audio equipment that is exceeded in quality by the humble Yamaha HS50M / HS80M + HS10M pairing - likely the very equipment that the recording was studio mastered on. No $10K+ amplifier / receiver needed there. Need a tube to mangle that music and add harmonics that were never there in the recording? Add a cheap Behringer tube exciter. With the death of quality music on the broadcast bands, receivers are on their way out as well. Sure, there are still lots of receivers made, but they are likely not hooked to an antenna, being more of a big box that heats the room and has a DAC. The audiophile market is so infested with snake oil salesmen that it's little wonder that this always-tiny segment of the market is rapidly falling by the wayside. Once a year or so I buy an issue of Stereophile in order to re-acquaint myself with the laughable vocabulary and incredibly priced equipment, just for a laugh. What's the purpose of an audio system? Is it to faithfully reproduce audio recordings? We can do that now for under a thousand bucks, everything included. Is your system engineered to add depth, reduce glare, and increase the relative proportions of hot / salty overtones? Can you really even appreciate the Bybee Quantum Purification you paid so dearly for without a solid, cork-supported rosewood listening room? I don't think so. |
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Oregonian Haruspex wrote:
The other thing that one has to bear in mind, is that the younger crowd doesn't have any interest in prestige-level audio equipment that is exceeded in quality by the humble Yamaha HS50M / HS80M + HS10M pairing - likely the very equipment that the recording was studio mastered on. Mixed on, sure, but does anyone master on the humble Yamaha HS50M? For mastering they're going to use something much larger, e.g. the big SLS Audio Studio Reference Series or or the PMC BB5. http://www.peerlessmastering.com/equipmentlist.html http://www.fluidmastering.com/studio.htm The audiophile market is so infested with snake oil salesmen that it's little wonder that this always-tiny segment of the market is rapidly falling by the wayside. Once a year or so I buy an issue of Stereophile in order to re-acquaint myself with the laughable vocabulary and incredibly priced equipment, just for a laugh. Amen to that, brother. Amen. Andrew. |
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On 2013-08-04 17:10:50 +0000, Andrew Haley said:
Mixed on, sure, but does anyone master on the humble Yamaha HS50M? For mastering they're going to use something much larger, e.g. the big SLS Audio Studio Reference Series or or the PMC BB5. http://www.peerlessmastering.com/equipmentlist.html http://www.fluidmastering.com/studio.htm While a lot of traditional recording studios of course use gigantic expensive mastering solutions, lots of music is being recorded in more modest settings, and mastered in the now ubiquitous bedroom studio. These outfits can produce good sounding recordings, despite the generally modest gear. Electronic music is generally mixed to master right in Cubase, Logic, or Ableton these days, bypassing the entire recording studio / mastering chain. This is just another way in which the music scene is changing, aside from digital music distribution. |
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