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Rob Adelman wrote:
Bryson wrote: ..snip... "Chong admitted that his company, which operated as Chong Glass and employed 25 glass blowers, sold some 7,500 bongs and pipes until Feb. 14, when federal drug agents raided his California home and business. Authorities also seized about a pound of marijuana." Hmm. Does he keep a pound for his personal stash? I doubt it. Wonder where this pound came from? Maybe Ashcroft's dealer I'd guess it was used for R&D and quality control. Gotta test those bongs and pipes... ;-) Ron Capik cynic in training -- |
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On Sun, 14 Sep 2003 20:37:26 GMT, Bryson
wrote: http://www.firstcoastnews.com/entert...x?storyid=7983 We're not living in a Fascist state. We've got elections here, and the will of the people, and everything. Chris Hornbeck For one swallow does not make a summer, nor does one day; And so too one day, or a short time, Or a great deed, does not make a man Blessed or happy. Aristotle, Nicomachaen Ethics |
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"Chong said he's been working with youth groups, teaching filmmaking and
speaking against drug use." You suppose maybe the judge wasn't buying it? |
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"Chris Hornbeck" wrote in message ... We're not living in a Fascist state. We've got elections here, and the will of the people, and everything. You are a laugh riot, Chris. Because a minority group wants drugs and drug paraphenalia made legal, that's your definition of the "will of the people"? And arresting some dumbass who makes bongs and is caught with a pound of dope makes this a facist state? Step aside, Al Franken, we've got a new contenduh! I was particularly amused by this quote from the story: --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Richard G. Hirsch, one of Chong's attorneys, urged Schwab not to punish the actor for his films. "The government is asking you to blur the distinction between reality and satire," he said. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Uh, Richard, Chong is being punished for breaking the law; he pleaded guilty to conspiring to sell drug paraphernalia. That's about as real as it gets. "My momma talka to me try to tell me how to live. But I don't listen to her 'cause my head is like a sieve." Ah, earache my eye. John |
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John LeBlanc wrote:
Because a minority group wants drugs and drug paraphenalia made legal, that's your definition of the "will of the people"? And arresting some dumbass who makes bongs and is caught with a pound of dope makes this a facist state? Step aside, Al Franken, we've got a new contenduh John, in the early '80's investigation resulted in estimates that over thirty million Americans used or had used marijuana. I doubt the numbers are lower today. I don't know what is your own criteria for a "minority", but that's quite a few folks in my book. And it might behoove plenty of people to learn when, why and how marijuana was made illegal in the US. One might also review the opinion delivered to Nixon in the late '60's by his BLue Ribbon Committee, which he formed to look into the situation in the US with marijuana. In short a panel of conservative business men told him to legalize it. Of course he didn't, knowing who his real friends were, like Meyer Lansky et al. George Washington grew marijuana and used it to relieve the pain of his rotting teeth and the wooden pegs driven into his jaws to replace the missing chompers. We'd not have been able to moor a naval vessel for hundreds of years were it not for hemp. And the story goes for five thousand years... Today the media continues to keep the uninformed populace in a state of hysteria about pot, all because that allows the maintenance of a black market, so the "right people" get to make the money. -- ha |
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"John LeBlanc" wrote in message
... You are a laugh riot, Chris. Because a minority group wants drugs and drug paraphenalia made legal, that's your definition of the "will of the people"? Not a minority. 6 million new people do drugs without "ruining their lives" every year. Read the anti-drug propaganda, even they admit that the vast majority either thinks that drugs should be legal or don't care either way. And arresting some dumbass who makes bongs and is caught with a pound of dope makes this a facist state? Step aside, Al Franken, we've got a new contenduh! Arresting a dumbass for possessing a plant which was harming no one and selling pipes, just like every tobacco shop in every mall in the country, is pushing the limits, if you ask me. ryanm |
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Hmm. Does he keep a pound for his personal stash? I doubt it. Wonder
where this pound came from? Maybe Ashcroft's dealer I know a guy who has "a pound in my freezer just in case there's a shortage". No joke. That's a whole lotta weed, enough to last some people a year. --- -Jay Kahrs Owner - Chief Engineer Mad Moose Recording Inc. Morris Plains, NJ http://www.madmooserecording.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - Come visit me here -- http://www.gearslutz.com |
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"ryanm" wrote in message
... Arresting a dumbass for possessing a plant which was harming no one and selling pipes, just like every tobacco shop in every mall in the country, is pushing the limits, if you ask me. Thank goodness there are laws to protect us from blown glass chotchkies and the terrible risk of craving an entire box of Capt. Crunch with chocolate syrup and fluff. Will we never be safe from the proliferation of lava lamps and beaded curtains? dtk |
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Rob Adelman wrote:
"Chong admitted that his company, which operated as Chong Glass and employed 25 glass blowers, sold some 7,500 bongs and pipes until Feb. 14, when federal drug agents raided his California home and business. Authorities also seized about a pound of marijuana." Hmm. Does he keep a pound for his personal stash? I doubt it. Wonder where this pound came from? Maybe Ashcroft's dealer Well, when I go to my local stereo store, they have a huge rack of records and CDs that you can use to audition their equipment. --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." |
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when federal drug agents raided his California home and business.
Authorities also seized about a pound of marijuana." But that is not what he was charged or pleaded to. And not in the same state that the charges were brought. --------------------------------------- "I know enough to know I don't know enough" |
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Jay Kahrs wrote: I know a guy who has "a pound in my freezer just in case there's a shortage". No joke. That's a whole lotta weed, enough to last some people a year. A LOT longer than a year. |
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"Jay Kahrs" wrote in message ... Hmm. Does he keep a pound for his personal stash? I doubt it. Wonder where this pound came from? Maybe Ashcroft's dealer I know a guy who has "a pound in my freezer just in case there's a shortage". No joke. That's a whole lotta weed, enough to last some people a year. Considering this is Chong we're talking about, it probably lasts him about two months. Imagine the tolerance he's built up. When he gets out of the clink, though, he'll be able to take one or two puffs and be as high as he was in 1969. Maybe he'll consider it a blessing in disguise. jb |
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"John LeBlanc" wrote in message ... Uh, Richard, Chong is being punished for breaking the law; he pleaded guilty to conspiring to sell drug paraphernalia. That's about as real as it gets. The drug paraphenalia in question is an invention as old as time with an extra hole in the side (the legal definition of a 'drug pipe' as opposed to a 'tobacco pipe') and a bong is equally old, basically a gourd for smoking like those found by archaeologists all over the world. OK, regardless of ones beliefs about legalization of controlled substances, how can it be illegal to sell a ****ing glass pipe? jb |
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"reddred" wrote in message
... The drug paraphenalia in question is an invention as old as time with an extra hole in the side (the legal definition of a 'drug pipe' as opposed to a 'tobacco pipe') and a bong is equally old, basically a gourd for smoking like those found by archaeologists all over the world. OK, regardless of ones beliefs about legalization of controlled substances, how can it be illegal to sell a ****ing glass pipe? To save the children!!!!! Don't you want to SAVE THE CHILDREN?!?!?! Why is it that the screechy voices of people who use that rhetoric always kill my buzz? ryanm |
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wrote: ones beliefs about legalization of controlled substances, how can it be illegal to sell a ****ing glass pipe? To save the children!!!!! Don't you want to SAVE THE CHILDREN?!?!?! Why is it that the screechy voices of people who use that rhetoric always kill my buzz? What are you, a baby hater? This is something I noticed a long time ago. It seems that whenever election time comes around, the "issue" ads start rolling, and every single one of them says it's "for the children". It could be legalizing murder and they'd find a way to make it "for the children". If you disagree with anything they say, you must be a baby hater. "What do you mean you're against capital punishment for moving violations? You must hate babies!" I must admit, that sends up a red flag for me and makes me wonder if they're less than sincere. But it obviously makes for good publicity or it wouldn't be so overused. -- Jay Frigoletto Mastersuite Los Angeles promastering.com |
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"John LeBlanc" wrote: "Chris Hornbeck" wrote in message ... We're not living in a Fascist state. We've got elections here, and the will of the people, and everything. You are a laugh riot, Chris. Because a minority group wants drugs and drug paraphenalia made legal, that's your definition of the "will of the people"? And arresting some dumbass who makes bongs and is caught with a pound of dope makes this a facist state? Step aside, Al Franken, we've got a new contenduh! I was particularly amused by this quote from the story: --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Richard G. Hirsch, one of Chong's attorneys, urged Schwab not to punish the actor for his films. "The government is asking you to blur the distinction between reality and satire," he said. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Uh, Richard, Chong is being punished for breaking the law; he pleaded guilty to conspiring to sell drug paraphernalia. That's about as real as it gets. "My momma talka to me try to tell me how to live. But I don't listen to her 'cause my head is like a sieve." Ah, earache my eye. John John Thank the higher power there are people like you otherwise I might just like everyone!! your a ass George |
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Jay - atldigi wrote: In article , "ryanm" wrote: ones beliefs about legalization of controlled substances, how can it be illegal to sell a ****ing glass pipe? To save the children!!!!! Don't you want to SAVE THE CHILDREN?!?!?! Why is it that the screechy voices of people who use that rhetoric always kill my buzz? What are you, a baby hater? This is something I noticed a long time ago. It seems that whenever election time comes around, the "issue" ads start rolling, and every single one of them says it's "for the children". It could be legalizing murder and they'd find a way to make it "for the children". If you disagree with anything they say, you must be a baby hater. "What do you mean you're against capital punishment for moving violations? You must hate babies!" I must admit, that sends up a red flag for me and makes me wonder if they're less than sincere. But it obviously makes for good publicity or it wouldn't be so overused. Support Abortion, do it for the children, LOL But John Imagine the burden you will not have to pay in income and property taxes to rage pointless wars around the globe once POT is legal George |
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My keyboard player buys a pound a month. And he's usually out before the
end of the month. I would imagine that an experienced stoner like Chong could go through a pound in a few weeks. Less than 5 or 6 pounds in Chong's house could easily have been his personal supply, if he buys in bulk. ryanm I wonder what all that tar and **** is doing to his lungs? Healthwise, he'd probably do better to move into hard drugs! Yow! Tom |
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John LeBlanc wrote:
Uh, Richard, Chong is being punished for breaking the law; he pleaded guilty to conspiring to sell drug paraphernalia. That's about as real as it gets. Selling this particular type of "drug paraphernalia" isn't even illegal. It was only recently (since Jan 2001) made illegal to sell it _on the internet_ which it doesn't take a paranoid to tell you is pretty messed up. You can go down to any head shop in any town in America and buy the same equipment, so long as you don't mention illegal drugs while you're doing it. If this is as real as it gets, then we've got a problem. We're seeing a large-scale government crackdown on something that we collectively (the public or its congressional representatives) have never given the go-ahead to crack down on quite so hard. This is what happens when you let a crackpot appoint his crackpot friends to positions high in the Federal government. "If you can't find Osama, bring us some other freaky bearded wierdos to hang." Right? ulysses |
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From: Justin Ulysses Morse
"If you can't find Osama, bring us some other freaky bearded wierdos to hang." Right? Right. "If we allow sin to exist among us, the Lord will take away our blessings", meaning the lake house and the boat and even our children (Jesus arranging car wrecks, and other pestilences), so "get them". America will be purified. Draping the breasts of the statue of Justice crackpot enough for you? --Tom Paterson |
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On Sun, Sep 14, 2003 4:33 pm, Ron Capik =
t wrote: Rob Adelman wrote: Bryson wrote: ..snip... Authorities also seized about a pound of marijuana." Hmm. Does he keep a pound for his personal stash? I doubt it. Wonder where this pound came from? Maybe Ashcroft's dealer I'd guess it was used for R&D and quality control. Gotta test those bongs and pipes... ;-) Ron Capik cynic in training -- Maybe he rolls big joints? --------------------------------------------------------- "I'm also not very analytical. You know I don't spend a lot of time thinking about myself, about why I do things." =DC-GWB,Aboard Air Force One, June 4, 2003 --------------------------------------------------------- |
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On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 15:51:47 GMT, (LeBaron &
Alrich) wrote: Scott Dorsey wrote: Then again, oral sex is illegal here too. So, of course, nobody does it. But we have a definitive ruling from the last presidency that oral sex is not, in fact, sex (with that woman). So oral sex per se does't exist. So it can't be illegal. d _____________________________ http://www.pearce.uk.com |
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"Tom Paterson" wrote in message ... Right. "If we allow sin to exist among us, the Lord will take away our blessings", meaning the lake house and the boat and even our children (Jesus arranging car wrecks, and other pestilences), so "get them". Well, when Clinton ws president and suggested making the Baptist denomination the official religion of the United States, I take it you were against? John |
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The judge might have if he hadn't tried to say that he had dealt with his
pot habit by channeling his energy into salsa dancing - I just about fell off my chair laughing - gotta give Tommy credit for that one - don't know why they had to send him to jail other than to be vindictive and after revenge for the way he and Chong laughed at 'em for all those years. Truth of it is that the Sgt Stedenko character from the old C&C movies was based on a real narc from my town up here in Canada - too funny/. Gary Rob Adelman wrote: "Chong said he's been working with youth groups, teaching filmmaking and speaking against drug use." You suppose maybe the judge wasn't buying it? |
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Don Pearce wrote:
But we have a definitive ruling from the last presidency that oral sex is not, in fact, sex (with that woman). So oral sex per se does't exist. So it can't be illegal. I'm trying to figure out whether or not that sucks. -- ha |
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From: "John LeBlanc"
Well, when Clinton ws president and suggested making the Baptist denomination the official religion of the United States, I take it you were against? Sounds like more "Bill Clinton Antichrist" right-winger bull****. Citation, please. I guess you can accuse me of being stupid enough to spend my time counting partisan trash-talk "hits". Part of the game, right? Or maybe you just want the company. Refuted. FWIW, I'm "against" any religion-based pollution of the democratic process--specifically our support of Israel, based not on support of a downtrodden people, but "biblical prophecy"; the rebuilt temple, Last Days, etc. PBS had a wonderful special on the bible, they replay it every so often. Along with failed prophetical interpretations, it shows a Texas rancher (and evangelical) picking out a particular red calf. His motivation being that what, he gets extra points in heaven for supplying the sacrifice? They gonna fly it over there in Air Force One? Well, at least he probably doesn't think he'll be paid in virgins... "If we allow sin to exist among us, God will take away our blessings". America will be cleansed. At least 'till the next election. --Tom Paterson |
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"Tom Paterson" wrote in message ... From: "John LeBlanc" Well, when Clinton ws president and suggested making the Baptist denomination the official religion of the United States, I take it you were against? Sounds like more "Bill Clinton Antichrist" right-winger bull****. Citation, please. What a coincidence, I was going to ask you for the "Jesus arranging car wrecks" citation. You first. John |
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Bryson wrote in message hlink.net...
Shame. http://www.firstcoastnews.com/entert...x?storyid=7983 Just wait, Ashcroft is going after Porno next. Ya think maybe they should be trying harder to find Osama and his buds? Analogeezer p.s. Now I know why they phased out Chong's character on "That 70's Show" |
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Don Pearce wrote: But we have a definitive ruling from the last presidency that oral sex is not, in fact, sex (with that woman). So oral sex per se does't exist. So it can't be illegal. That depends on what your definition of "is" is. (Hey, and I like the guy, but I always thought that was great line.) Don |
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On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 14:22:34 -0400, Don Cooper
wrote: Don Pearce wrote: But we have a definitive ruling from the last presidency that oral sex is not, in fact, sex (with that woman). So oral sex per se does't exist. So it can't be illegal. That depends on what your definition of "is" is. (Hey, and I like the guy, but I always thought that was great line.) Don And then again, I wonder if it would have been sex if he had caught Chelsea with one of his aides... d _____________________________ http://www.pearce.uk.com |
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"William Sommerwerck" wrote in message ... Speaking of oral (or any other kind of) sex... Tommy Chong is an awfully good-looking guy. I hope he won't be forced to do anything he doesn't want to... I think Chong is going to be one of the most popular guys in prison, ever. I don't think anybody will have anything bad to say about Chong, not even the guards. People will give Chong cigarettes for free. When he gets out, he can write a book, and make so much money, forget the bong business. Not that he has trouble getting weed now, but I bet when he gets out, he'll get it for free. jb |
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"Scott Dorsey" wrote in message ... reddred wrote: The drug paraphenalia in question is an invention as old as time with an extra hole in the side (the legal definition of a 'drug pipe' as opposed to a 'tobacco pipe') and a bong is equally old, basically a gourd for smoking like those found by archaeologists all over the world. OK, regardless of ones beliefs about legalization of controlled substances, how can it be illegal to sell a ****ing glass pipe? Don't ask me, ask the Virginia State Senate. Not only is it illegal to sell pipes with bowls of particular diameters here, it's also illegal to sell spoons of particular sizes. Then again, oral sex is illegal here too. --scott It's pretty silly too, because it's just as easy for a blower to make a pipe without a shotgun. People can smoke out of anything anyway, so I don't understand the logic. Maybe it has something to do with real estate. As far as the baby spoons go, what are babies supposed to use now? jb |
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reddred wrote: It's pretty silly too, because it's just as easy for a blower to make a pipe without a shotgun. People can smoke out of anything anyway, so I don't understand the logic. That sparked some memories. I once made a bong out of a 1 gallon A&W jug. Pretty cool idea until it got dumped in the back seat of my car. |
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"John LeBlanc" wrote in message
You are a laugh riot, Chris. Because a minority group wants drugs and drug paraphenalia made legal that's your definition of the "will of the people"? .....blah, blah, blah. John Tobacco killed 5 Million people in 2000 ( http://www.cnn.com/2003/HEALTH/09/12...eut/index.html ) yet not one death has ever been attributed to Marijuana use. Pretty amazingly safe recreational drug, statistically speaking. So where's the logic in these "Laws"? If the government claims to be looking out for our health and welfare (hahahahaha!!!!), where's the logic? Where's the morality? But that aside John, I thought you said you were for getting "Government off our backs", "Less Regulation", "more personal freedom", and all that other spin. You're sounding more like a Dirty Commie to me. Downright Un-American, you hypocrite..... take that Flag off of your front porch until you stand up for real freedom, and earn the right to fly it. J_West |
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"Rob Adelman" wrote in message ... reddred wrote: It's pretty silly too, because it's just as easy for a blower to make a pipe without a shotgun. People can smoke out of anything anyway, so I don't understand the logic. That sparked some memories. I once made a bong out of a 1 gallon A&W jug. Pretty cool idea until it got dumped in the back seat of my car. There are many reasons to be careful when you ride around with people.... jb |
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It's pretty silly too, because it's just as easy for a blower to make a pipe without a shotgun. People can smoke out of anything anyway, so I don't understand the logic. Maybe it has something to do with real estate. As far as the baby spoons go, what are babies supposed to use now? jb Just a few things I pressed into service during my days toilet paper tube tin foil apples soda and beer cans pins,cardboard and drinking glasses thistle glass(from chemistry) cotter pins and the end of a spark plug make great roach clips of course in public school I made pipes in wood,metal and ceramics classes when I had no pipe I would just eat it so when mouths are labled as paraphanlia only outlaws will have mouths FREE THE WEED!!!!!!! George(who still smokes about 4 joints a year) |
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"Johnston West" wrote in message om... So where's the logic in these "Laws"? If the government claims to be looking out for our health and welfare (hahahahaha!!!!), where's the logic? Where's the morality? But that aside John, I thought you said you were for getting "Government off our backs", "Less Regulation", "more personal freedom", and all that other spin. I don't consider the pursuit of personal liberty to be "spin" at all. I vote in every election in which I'm allowed. And I vote according to my view that people should be allowed to make their own decisions about what's best for them so long as their actions don't infringe on the rights of others. If someone's idea of the pursuit of happiness is shooting off their own toes with an AK47, I say merry christmas to him. Just don't expect my tax dollars to either pay for the hospital bills or the prosthetics or for the rehabilitation therapy. I think that's fair. There is a process to changing or repealing stupid laws in this country and I avail myself to that process when I think it's warranted. Ignoring laws and then being surprised when you are arrested generally isn't the way to go about doing that. And armchair quarterbacking and bitching isn't the way to go about it, either. I intentionally haven't expressed my opinion of pot, pot smoking, and pot smoking paraphernalia because it's irrelevant to the discussion here, which is that Tommy Chong got arrested for, plead guilty to, and was sentenced for breaking a law. Title 21 United States Code, Section 863 is pretty clear. But I have expressed my opinion that it's perfectly acceptable to me that breaking laws gets people fined and/or put in jail. You're sounding more like a Dirty Commie to me. Downright Un-American, you hypocrite..... take that Flag off of your front porch until you stand up for real freedom, and earn the right to fly it. I've absolutely no doubt you think that. And I'm perfectly okay with your right to go on to express such an absurd opinion. g John |
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Johnston West wrote:
So where's the logic in these "Laws"? Title: Jack Herer's The Emperor Wears No Clothes Author: Jack Herer ; editing by Leslie Cabarga Subject: Marijuana. Year: 1998 ISBN 1878125028 -- ha |