WE NEED TO HAVE A COMMUNITY FOR OUR LOVE
"GRAND MODULAR 2500" ..... ARPERS 'RE WELCOME...
TRADING MODULES, EXCHANGE IDEAS ETC...

I had a 2500 for about 3 years... loved it!!! As a matter of fact, I've
spoken with Roger Arrick (synthesizers.com) about producing a
"Mix-Sequencer" clone in his product line. This is one of the neatest
modules to come along in a very long time. Multi-function... and is a
must-have if you want to do 'preset patches' for live gigging.

The matrix patching is a fantastic concept, which allows you to either
bypass the use of patchcords, or to include them. The only drawback
that I experienced, was that the contacts sometimes would require
cleaning a bit too often... perhaps modern materials could minimize the
dirt contamination problem.

~Morbius~

~Morbius~ wrote:
I had a 2500 for about 3 years... loved it!!! As a matter of fact, I've
spoken with Roger Arrick (synthesizers.com) about producing a
"Mix-Sequencer" clone in his product line. This is one of the neatest
modules to come along in a very long time. Multi-function... and is a
must-have if you want to do 'preset patches' for live gigging.

The matrix patching is a fantastic concept, which allows you to either
bypass the use of patchcords, or to include them. The only drawback
that I experienced, was that the contacts sometimes would require
cleaning a bit too often... perhaps modern materials could minimize the
dirt contamination problem.

~Morbius~

Still use mine
Fantastic systemswith great modules.
As you say, the mix sequencer is unique and very useful for various
things...

That, it is. I have a thing about sequencers, sample/holds, and
anything that can be used as a preset for live gigs, and the
Mix-Sequencer falls well within that ballpark. I used to do some random
stage selection with it, but I've forgotten how... 25 years later...
oh yeah... and I'm down to 3 working brain-cells, too. No help there.

Anyway... I see the genious in both Moog and ARP, and am trying to
convince Roger Arrick to design a few new modules based on these
keweler jewels. I think it's working... he bought (or traded) for a a
Moog 3-C, and he bought an ARP-2500 about 6 months ago... He's told me
that he now understands what I see in these modules, and he's about to
start production on the "Q-960" and "Q-962" clones. The mix-sequencer
is my next 'push'. : )

Ya know... as I think back... one thing really stands out in my mind
about the ARP osc.s that I did not like... you can't switch octaves!
Man... that always bummed me out. I also had a love/hate thing with the
mini plugs and jacks... yeah... small... but, there were too many times
I got very intermittant contact... usually during a session, and I'd
end up just bending the plugs(s) as a quick fix. Of course, IF ARP had
used 1/4"... it would have been a little crammed. Oh well.

~Morbius~

~Morbius~ wrote:
That, it is. I have a thing about sequencers, sample/holds, and
anything that can be used as a preset for live gigs, and the
Mix-Sequencer falls well within that ballpark. I used to do some random
stage selection with it, but I've forgotten how... 25 years later...
oh yeah... and I'm down to 3 working brain-cells, too. No help there.

Anyway... I see the genious in both Moog and ARP, and am trying to
convince Roger Arrick to design a few new modules based on these
keweler jewels. I think it's working... he bought (or traded) for a a
Moog 3-C, and he bought an ARP-2500 about 6 months ago... He's told me
that he now understands what I see in these modules, and he's about to
start production on the "Q-960" and "Q-962" clones. The mix-sequencer
is my next 'push'. : )

Ya know... as I think back... one thing really stands out in my mind
about the ARP osc.s that I did not like... you can't switch octaves!
Man... that always bummed me out. I also had a love/hate thing with the
mini plugs and jacks... yeah... small... but, there were too many times
I got very intermittant contact... usually during a session, and I'd
end up just bending the plugs(s) as a quick fix. Of course, IF ARP had
used 1/4"... it would have been a little crammed. Oh well.

~Morbius~

Good news! He should consider making their S&H module and the modamp too.
The minijacks are less of a problem in the 2500 than on the 2600 and
even then I never had a real problem.
The thing with the 2500 is how compact it is. Quad envelopes, voice
modules, Filtamps. They all take up much less space than a moog.
As for switching octaves, I find it some of the charm of the 2500

No arguement there... of course, in a way, we ARE talking apples and
oranges. Moog and ARP's are similar, yet different. Both have their
brilliant points, and both have their 'I coulda done better than that'
things.

~Morbius~

True. One thing I don't like is that Pearlman has been portrayed rather
unfairly by the Moog people and their fans for a long time, especially over that
filter issue. If Moog was going to go after ARP for the filter, then ARP was in
their rights to go after Moog for the stable oscillator design. As an engineer,
I know it's easy to independently come up with virtually the same design if
you're operating under the same constraints (mass production factors, filter
specifications, et al). I also know that designs that make money should be
protected so the originator can reap the proper financial benefits. But riding
the line between the two is often a slippery slope, with only the lawyers
benefiting in the end.

Pearlman was a trained engineer, and the 2500 and 2600 for sure show it in their
logical design, especially the front end. In this respect Moog and Buchla could
have taken lessons from Pearlman. But with everyone, it seems, sanctifying the
Moog look these days, I think ARP synthesizers is getting short shrifted.
--
Sincerely,
--- Dave
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It don't mean a thing
unless it has that certain "je ne sais quoi"
Duke Ellington
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"~Morbius~" wrote in message
ups.com...
No arguement there... of course, in a way, we ARE talking apples and
oranges. Moog and ARP's are similar, yet different. Both have their
brilliant points, and both have their 'I coulda done better than that'
things.

~Morbius~