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SPL with headphones, comparable ???
Hi all,
I was having a look at two pairs of headphones, and noticed their sound pressure level ratings. The two sennheiser pairs were px100 with 114 dB, and the cx300 was 112 dB. Firstly, in relatively simple terms - what IS the sound pressure level ? I have read so many definitions, but none make it very clear cut and easy to understand. I know it is measured in decibels, which is a logarithmic scale. I know it is referenced to close to 0 db (right ?), threshold of hearing. So does it refer to the maximum sound level (in dB) the headphone/whatever can attain ? With the two examples above, how could you compare them? I.e. one 114, the other 112 - does it mean the cx300 probably couldnt go "as" loud as the px100??? Sorry if that sounds newbie ... i know it depends on the impedance etc etc too...... |
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"andrew_h" wrote: Hi all, I was having a look at two pairs of headphones, and noticed their sound pressure level ratings. The two sennheiser pairs were px100 with 114 dB, and the cx300 was 112 dB. Firstly, in relatively simple terms - what IS the sound pressure level ? I have read so many definitions, but none make it very clear cut and easy to understand. I know it is measured in decibels, which is a logarithmic scale. I know it is referenced to close to 0 db (right ?), threshold of hearing. So does it refer to the maximum sound level (in dB) the headphone/whatever can attain ? With the two examples above, how could you compare them? I.e. one 114, the other 112 - does it mean the cx300 probably couldnt go "as" loud as the px100??? Sorry if that sounds newbie ... i know it depends on the impedance etc etc too...... In most cases, 3db in these terms is about a click on the volume knob. The next level up or down of perceived volume. I say listen to them both and choose which sounds better, don't rely on the numbers. -- Cyrus *coughcasaucedoprodigynetcough* |
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andrew_h wrote: I was having a look at two pairs of headphones, and noticed their sound pressure level ratings. The two sennheiser pairs were px100 with 114 dB, and the cx300 was 112 dB. Firstly, in relatively simple terms - what IS the sound pressure level ? I have read so many definitions, but none make it very clear cut and easy to understand. I know it is measured in decibels, which is a logarithmic scale. I know it is referenced to close to 0 db (right ?), threshold of hearing. Sound itself is the result of rapid variations in air pressure sufficient to cause movement of your eardrums due to the difference in air pressure between your outer ear and your middle ear. When those pressure variations are of a sufficient level and within a certain range of frequencies, the movement of your eardrum causes, through a series of mechanisms, nerve impulses to be sent on to your brain. So, "sound pressure level" is what it seems to be: the level of pressure variations in the sound. It is an objective measure of the amplitude of the pressure variations, refered to a very small level of pressure variations referred to as the "threshold of hearing." This level, corresponding to a pressure difference of 0.0002 dynes per square centimeter (corresp0nding to about a trillionth, 10^-12, of a watt per square meter), was determined early in the previous century through a statistical analysis of a number of subjects' ability to detect very low level sounds at specific frequencies. That threshold does vary from individual to individual and within an individual, varies widely with frequency (though the frequency dependence has very similar properties acros the population as a whole), varies with age and with the amount of exposure to loud sounds (older people who ran jackhammers or played in rock bands have significantly elevated thresholds compared to young children, especially at higher frequencies). So does it refer to the maximum sound level (in dB) the headphone/whatever can attain ? No, it usually refers to the sound pressure, under some possibly unspecified conditions, generated by the untis when a "standard" electrical signal level is applied. I.e. one 114, the other 112 - does it mean the cx300 probably couldnt go "as" loud as the px100??? No, if you read the Sennhesier spec sheet on these headphones, it will tell you exactly what it means. From their spec sheet for the PX100, for example, it states quite explcitly: SPL (1 kHz, 1 Vrms) 114 dB That means when they applied a 1 volt, 1 kHz sine wave to the headphone, under their test conditions, it produced an SPL of 114 dB (which, by the way, is EXTREMELY loud). To put this in perspective, 114 dB is more than 10,000 more sound power than the noise level in an average automobile traveling at highway speeds in traffic. Basically, these specs are a measure of the voltage sensitivity of then unit. They are not a measure of maximum output. With the two examples above, how could you compare them? I would listen to both and pick the one I think sounds best, is most comfortable on my head, and which works best when connected to the equipment I'll be using it with. Sorry if that sounds newbie ... i know it depends on the impedance etc etc too...... Actually, it doesn't, since it's stated quite clearly as a voltage sensitivity. It is only marginally an issue if you're going to be using it on a portable player with VERY limited output voltage. The one with 114 dB sensitivity will play 2 dB louder at any given volume setting than one with 112 dB sensitivity, but 2 dB is small enough not to make a substantial difference. And, to repeat, 111-114 dB is VERY loud, enough that pushing your ears to that level is likely to result in long-term damage. Whatever you get, TURN IT DOWN and save your hearing, please. |
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SPL with headphones, comparable ???
Thanks for your excellent reply.
So, in real terms - the SPL of headphones is something of a useless stat? Can the SPL of headphones be compared (assuming they've taken all at 1V, 1kHZ?)? Would comparing them only tell you that one will be slightly louder than another (i.e. if one was 114, and one 111, then like you say the 114 would play 2db louder at any given volume.)? |
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