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What Does "XLR" Mean? -- Official Answer
Al Gershen wrote:
I've searched over the Internet and I haven't been able to find a defination for what the letters "XLR" mean. Can you help me? Dear Group, This topic doesn't seem to have arisen for quite a while, but I was asked this recently and did a bit of digging on usenet. Not trusting what I heard (there were a whole load of different answers, all claiming to be authoritative), I asked Cannon/ITT what the acronym XLR stands for and they replied with the following: ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- Subject: ITT Cannon - Contact Us Date: Monday 17 Nov 2003 12:14 pm From: Technical Query To: '" Hello David As far as I know the XLR is just a series part number, it may have had an original meaning, however we have no info here on it. regards John Embleton Technical Support ITT Industries, Cannon Connector Division, Basingstoke. UK ************************************ If this email is not intended for you, or you are not responsible for the delivery of this message to the addressee, please note that this message may contain ITT Privileged/Proprietary Information. In such a case, you may not copy or deliver this message to anyone. You should destroy this message and kindly notify the sender by reply email. Information contained in this message that does not relate to the business of ITT is neither endorsed by nor attributable to ITT. ************************************ ----------------------------------------- So that's the official answer. Ray A. Rayburn gives further information which ties in with this at http://www.soundfirst.com/xlr.html which gives the origin of the 'L' and the 'R' if not the 'X' - after reading all the conflicting stories on the subject it's hard to be sure on anything but I thought I'd add that link cos it doesn't seem to have been mentioned in one of these threads and does seem plausible. Hopefully this post will end up being searched when anyone Googles on this subject and will be useful - this information isn't currently readily available without some minor amount of digging as I found out. Cheers, Dave -- Remove the opinion on spam to reply. |
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What Does "XLR" Mean? -- Official Answer
My guess -- and it's only a guess -- is that the LR part stands for "locking
receptacle." |
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What Does "XLR" Mean? -- Official Answer
My guess -- and it's only a guess -- is that the LR part stands for "locking
receptacle." Xcellent. NeilH |
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What Does "XLR" Mean? -- Official Answer
"Dave Turner" wrote in message ... Al Gershen wrote: I've searched over the Internet and I haven't been able to find a defination for what the letters "XLR" mean. Can you help me? My GUESS is that it was part of a mil spec part number that became common George --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.541 / Virus Database: 335 - Release Date: 11/14/2003 |
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What Does "XLR" Mean? -- Official Answer
Maybe I just dreamed this up but I thought X meant Ground, L meant Left and R
meant Right, corresponding to the three pins in an XLR connector. Works for me, anyway. Ted Spencer, NYC "No amount of classical training will ever teach you what's so cool about "Tighten Up" by Archie Bell And The Drells" -author unknown |
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What Does "XLR" Mean? -- Official Answer
Ted Spencer wrote:
Maybe I just dreamed this up but I thought X meant Ground, L meant Left and R meant Right, corresponding to the three pins in an XLR connector. Works for me, anyway. Ted Spencer, NYC "No amount of classical training will ever teach you what's so cool about "Tighten Up" by Archie Bell And The Drells" -author unknown You know, that's so crazy it just might work :-) |
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What Does "XLR" Mean? -- Official Answer
I was working in Broadcast when "XLR's" came out. I don't recall any
reason for the designation. As I recall, they first appeared on non-broadcast mikes from Electrovoice and Shure as a better smaller answer than the abominable screw-on cheapos previously used. The EV654 was the first mike I had with XLR built into the case. Still have it. It's not good for much! The 'standard' in the 40's was (As I recall) The "M" round 3-pin connector about 1 inch in diameter, as seen on the old RCA OP4, OP6 and OP7 Remote Amplifiers. The Gates elcheapos had the screw-on type. (What the heck were those called??) I have and old OP-4 and a Gates remote amplifier. In the 50's the 'new standard' was the "D" shaped Cannon "UA" with gold plated pins. It has a real positive locking mechanism. The first piece of gear I ever bought with them new-fangled Transistors in it was a Collins remote amplifier. It came with "UA" type connectoirs, and by 1960 we had lots of cables with male UA on one end, that plugged into the Collins, and out in-the-studio-wall mike connectors. The other end was female XLR for the 'cheap mikes'. The 'Good Mikes' like RCA 77DX's, had their own cable connected inside the mike case, like It Should Be. RCA didn't change that when the BK-5 and BK-5B mikes came out in the 60's. So you had to put your own connector on the cable end of a new RCA mike. Jeez, who the heck wanted to know about this?? Sorry... |
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What Does "XLR" Mean? -- Official Answer
X-L-R
1-2-3 Ground-lead-return I may have dreamed this. -------------------------------------------------- Denny Fohringer Itinerant guitarist -------------------------------------------------- Lessons and music: http://surf.to/dennyf Bands: http://bluepearlband.com http://doubletakeband.com -------------------------------------------------- "Ted Spencer" wrote in message ... Maybe I just dreamed this up but I thought X meant Ground, L meant Left and R meant Right, corresponding to the three pins in an XLR connector. Works for me, anyway. Ted Spencer, NYC "No amount of classical training will ever teach you what's so cool about "Tighten Up" by Archie Bell And The Drells" -author unknown |
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What Does "XLR" Mean? -- Official Answer
"Ted Spencer" wrote in message
... Maybe I just dreamed this up but I thought X meant Ground, L meant Left and R meant Right, corresponding to the three pins in an XLR connector. Works for me, anyway. That's what I've always heard too. |
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What Does "XLR" Mean? -- Official Answer
"Mike Rivers" wrote in message news:znr1069087689k@trad... In article writes: As far as I know the XLR is just a series part number, it may have had an original meaning, however we have no info here on it. That seems to be as good an answer as any. There apparently was an XL series of connector that was the same size and layout, but with a hard insert. The XLR had a somewhat flexible rubber base for the insert, and that's where the "R" came from (according to other folklore, sometimes traceable to ITT Cannon). Xtremely Large Round ?!! geoff |
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What Does "XLR" Mean? -- Official Answer
Geoff Wood wrote:
"Mike Rivers" wrote in message news:znr1069087689k@trad... In article writes: As far as I know the XLR is just a series part number, it may have had an original meaning, however we have no info here on it. That seems to be as good an answer as any. There apparently was an XL series of connector that was the same size and layout, but with a hard insert. The XLR had a somewhat flexible rubber base for the insert, and that's where the "R" came from (according to other folklore, sometimes traceable to ITT Cannon). Xtremely Large Round ?!! It's the EPs that are extremely large and round ! Graham |
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What Does "XLR" Mean? -- Official Answer
Mike Rivers wrote: In article writes: As far as I know the XLR is just a series part number, it may have had an original meaning, however we have no info here on it. That seems to be as good an answer as any. There apparently was an XL series of connector that was the same size and layout, but with a hard insert. The XLR had a somewhat flexible rubber base for the insert, and that's where the "R" came from (according to other folklore, sometimes traceable to ITT Cannon). I even have at least one old XL connector. Yup, hard plastic insert. Cable gland is screwed on. R for rubber sounds plausible. Graham |
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What Does "XLR" Mean? -- Official Answer
I even have at least one old XL connector. Yup, hard plastic insert.
But I've bought XLRs with hard inserts. In fact, I don't ever remember seeing one with a flexible insert. |
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William Sommerwerck wrote: I even have at least one old XL connector. Yup, hard plastic insert. But I've bought XLRs with hard inserts. In fact, I don't ever remember seeing one with a flexible insert. I bet they weren't really XLRs at all, but A3Ms or something. It's been a long time since I have seen anyone else using the Cannon connectors, although Newark still stocks them and I like them a lot. --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." |
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What Does "XLR" Mean? -- Official Answer
William Sommerwerck wrote:
I even have at least one old XL connector. Yup, hard plastic insert. But I've bought XLRs with hard inserts. In fact, I don't ever remember seeing one with a flexible insert. Genuine * Cannon * XLRs have rubber inserts. Graham |
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What Does "XLR" Mean? -- Official Answer
Dave Turner wrote:
Al Gershen wrote: I've searched over the Internet and I haven't been able to find a defination for what the letters "XLR" mean. Can you help me? http://www.denecke.com/prod04.htm#AD20 http://www.proav.de/index.html?http&...R_history.html They seem to agree. X series connector - modified to add a Latch - with Resilent Rubber insert. Graham |
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What Does "XLR" Mean? -- Official Answer
Pooh Bear wrote:
Mike Rivers wrote: In article writes: As far as I know the XLR is just a series part number, it may have had an original meaning, however we have no info here on it. That seems to be as good an answer as any. There apparently was an XL series of connector that was the same size and layout, but with a hard insert. The XLR had a somewhat flexible rubber base for the insert, and that's where the "R" came from (according to other folklore, sometimes traceable to ITT Cannon). I even have at least one old XL connector. Yup, hard plastic insert. Cable gland is screwed on. R for rubber sounds plausible. Plausible, but far from certain. What is known is that XLR was a Cannon (before ITT) part number. I've heard people say that LR may have stood for "long reach" too, which is also plausible, but unestablished. Usually, the only way you'd ever find out what it "meant" would be to get the skinny from some old timer in the Cannon engineering department. Typically, part names/numbers come from two sources. One is the engineering department where they are given names just for project/ID purposes. Numbers often come from the numbering of projects, such as IC development 709 etc. Names usually make sense at some level IF one knows the thinking at the time. For example it COULD have been "Experimental, Low Impedance, Rubber Insert connector project" Which thence got shortened to XLR. (X is a common letter used to mean experimental). BUT as I said ONLY an old-timer at Cannon would know for sure. The letters could just as easily have been something else. Maybe even referring to internal names, departments etc., they had at Cannon. The Second place part names come from is the marketing dept. In such a case, the name would be choosen for "hype" Hence the "X"...you know like the X-1 rocket ship etc.! And the "LR" could be anything made up just so as to sound cool and not create confusion with other parts (either in house or competitor). As for the "true" story, only an engineer who was there at the time could say for sure. I'm old enough to have seen XLR as the cannon part number, but I never worked at Cannon and have no inside info as to the reasons for the name. Benj (Who in those days preferred Amphenol connectors which were considerably cheaper than Cannon and worked as well, IMHO) -- Due to SPAM innundation above address is turned off! |
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What Does "XLR" Mean? -- Official Answer
(Mike Rivers) wrote in message
I suppose that XLR could stand for something, but I imagine that if it actually did, someone would know. This is a pretty historic part number. Hasn't this been answered? ...... A few times. X = A small circular plug in the Cannon connector series that was not originally designed for microphones, but was later adapted, due to it's small size. Cannon originally made a large circular connector, the "P" (pin) series. Microphones used a 3 pin design of that. Speakers used (and still do) a 4 or 8 pin version of that series......... They wanted a smaller connector so they designed the "UA" series which were D shaped connectors. Mics such as the EV 666 and 654 used these........ In their desire for an even smaller mic connector they went with a small circular connector that cannon had around called the "X" series. L = Latch.... The X series had no latch, so they added one R = Rubber .... The XL series connector became popluar and cannon later embedded the contacts in rubber to insulate them. XLR J_West Read more here from Ray Rayburn, a very knowlegable audio technician ....... http://www.soundfirst.com/xlr.html |
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What Does "XLR" Mean? -- Official Answer
I cant remember where but I once read that XLR meant "extra low resistance"
the connector was originally designed for instrumentation work before being taken up by the audio industry originally made by ITT cannon hence they where called cannons when I started in the audio world in the late seventies and where available in 2 to 8 way versions John Deans "Mike Rivers" wrote in message news:znr1069625531k@trad... In article writes: Plausible, but far from certain. What is known is that XLR was a Cannon (before ITT) part number. I've heard people say that LR may have stood for "long reach" too, which is also plausible, but unestablished. Usually, the only way you'd ever find out what it "meant" would be to get the skinny from some old timer in the Cannon engineering department. Who really cares? It's a part number and it doesn't have to mean anything, and probably doesn't, really. We have: LA-2 (Leveling Amplifier) RNC 1773 (Really Nice Compressor and the year McQ was born - not really, but I forget the meaning of 1773, but it does have a meaning) 3630 (Address of the Alesis factory at the time) AG-440 (Audio General) I suppose that XLR could stand for something, but I imagine that if it actually did, someone would know. This is a pretty historic part number. -- I'm really Mike Rivers ) However, until the spam goes away or Hell freezes over, lots of IP addresses are blocked from this system. If you e-mail me and it bounces, use your secret decoder ring and reach me he double-m-eleven-double-zero at yahoo |
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What Does "XLR" Mean? -- Official Answer
In article , wrote:
As for the "true" story, only an engineer who was there at the time could say for sure. The only thing I know is that the letter "R" stood for "resilient socket insulator" which differentiated it from the older phenolic insulated "XL" model. -- Bob Olhsson Audio Mastery, Nashville TN 615.385.8051 Mastering, Audio for Picture, Mix Evaluation and Quality Control http://www.hyperback.com/olhsson.html Over 40 years making people sound better than they ever imagined! |
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What Does "XLR" Mean? -- Official Answer
"Bob Olhsson" wrote in ...
The only thing I know is that the letter "R" stood for "resilient socket insulator" which differentiated it from the older phenolic insulated "XL" model. They probably used "R" for "rubber", but the marketing gerbs changed it to "resilient" to make it sound more refined. :-) |
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What Does "XLR" Mean? -- Official Answer
If you search rec.audio.pro (always a good idea)
you will find this post by Jeremy Shaw: Cannon has a range of connectors in the XL series, IE: XLA, XLB, and of course, XLR. You will see that in most catalogs, connectors manufactured by other companies are called "XLR-type" connectors, so, just like Kleenex has become a generic (although still trademarked) term for facial tissue, XLR has become the the term in general usage for this type of connector. Now that all that has been said, I have also heard the explanation that "X" refers to the ground, and "L" and "R" refer to left and right (or line and return). While this makes a neat explanation for the XLR-3, it does not explain the XLR-4,5,6, or 7. In reality XLR is just a part number assigned by ITT/Cannon X for the series the Military used (or just another letter in their commercial series of connectors after U and UA) L for locking R for rubber The XLR connector was designed for Boeing in the 60's. by Cannon (and there was an XL connector before, with a rigid insulator) (also I had not heard that it was for Boeing, but could believe that .... it was commonly used as an inexpensive instrumentation connector when people wanted something that would lock but not have a threaded ring) Then Switchcraft and others used it for audio. Switchcraft added a grounding lug to connect to the shell, and went back to a rigid insulator, which was a bad idea -- the rubber female side was tensioned so there was a good strong wiping action to get rid of the contact oxidation at every mating cycle In the 80'sit became commonly available with gold plated pins instead of the silver plating on the old ones that commonly became silver oxide and other less conductive silver salts... so that the scraping/wiping action made by the original XLR wasn't needed... Note, that ITT/Cannon is different than Canon the copier company. It is also interesting to note that ITT/Cannon no longer manufactures the Cannon XLR connectors (or so I have heard). I believe they sold the patent to Switchcraft. Jeremy Shaw. |
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What Does "XLR" Mean? -- Official Answer
"J. Joyce" wrote in message ws.com... If you search rec.audio.pro (always a good idea) you will find this post by Jeremy Shaw: Cannon has a range of connectors in the XL series, IE: XLA, XLB, and of course, XLR. Whatever happened to C,D,E,F,..... geoff |
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What Does "XLR" Mean? -- Official Answer
"J. Joyce" wrote ...
.... It is also interesting to note that ITT/Cannon no longer manufactures the Cannon XLR connectors (or so I have heard). Perhaps in the USA. But I still see what appear to be new "ITT/Cannon Japan" connectors on audio and video equipment from Sony (for example). The classic desgn with the rubber insulator in the female variety. I believe they sold the patent to Switchcraft. If they did (which I kinda' doubt), it wasn't exclusive. I recall a significant period when Cannon (and then ITT/ Cannon) were still selling XLRs even after Switchcraft started selling their equivalent version. OTOH, I concur that "XLR" was just an arbitrary part number from Cannon. Any nmemonic or acronynomic associations were invented after the fact by users out in the field and had nothing to do with the original name/numbers. |
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What Does "XLR" Mean? -- Official Answer
Richard Crowley wrote: "J. Joyce" wrote ... ... It is also interesting to note that ITT/Cannon no longer manufactures the Cannon XLR connectors (or so I have heard). Perhaps in the USA. But I still see what appear to be new "ITT/Cannon Japan" connectors on audio and video equipment from Sony (for example). The classic desgn with the rubber insulator in the female variety. Yup. Me too. Some were made by Cannon Australia too. I believe they sold the patent to Switchcraft. If they did (which I kinda' doubt), it wasn't exclusive. I recall a significant period when Cannon (and then ITT/ Cannon) were still selling XLRs even after Switchcraft started selling their equivalent version. For years and years and years. Another poster reminded me that Amphenol made a version for a while too. Beware of some cheap Asian copies of the Switchcraft style. I've seen some where the pins 2 and 3 are incorrectly numbered ! OTOH, I concur that "XLR" was just an arbitrary part number from Cannon. Any nmemonic or acronynomic associations were invented after the fact by users out in the field and had nothing to do with the original name/numbers. X connector with Latch and Resilient rubber insert. Predated by the XL which didn't have the rubber insert. Graham |
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What Does "XLR" Mean? -- Official Answer
Dave Turner wrote:
---------- Forwarded Message ---------- Subject: ITT Cannon - Contact Us Date: Monday 17 Nov 2003 12:14 pm From: Technical Query To: '" Hello David As far as I know the XLR is just a series part number, it may have had an original meaning, however we have no info here on it. regards John Embleton Technical Support ITT Industries, Cannon Connector Division, Basingstoke. UK So that's the official answer. Official? It's not even an answer. He might just as well have said, "Who cares?" or "None of your damn business." Ray A. Rayburn gives further information which ties in with this at http://www.soundfirst.com/xlr.html which gives Now this explanation makes much more sense. But having been around the internet awhile I have learned the important truth that just because a story sounds plausible, or has been written, doesn't make it true. This explanation has been repeated by a few other people but for all I know they could have all gotten it from a single unreliable source. Since every other explanation I've heard has been obvious bull****, this is the one I'll choose to believe until I find evidence to contradict it. Not that it really matters. What does "NC3FD" stand for? ulysses |
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What Does "XLR" Mean? -- (un) Official Answer
"Justin Ulysses Morse" wrote in message m... Dave Turner wrote: ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- Subject: ITT Cannon - Contact Us Date: Monday 17 Nov 2003 12:14 pm From: Technical Query To: '" Hello David As far as I know the XLR is just a series part number, it may have had an original meaning, however we have no info here on it. regards John Embleton Technical Support ITT Industries, Cannon Connector Division, Basingstoke. UK So that's the official answer. Official? It's not even an answer. He might just as well have said, "Who cares?" or "None of your damn business." Ray A. Rayburn gives further information which ties in with this at http://www.soundfirst.com/xlr.html which gives Now this explanation makes much more sense. But having been around the internet awhile I have learned the important truth that just because a story sounds plausible, or has been written, doesn't make it true. This explanation has been repeated by a few other people but for all I know they could have all gotten it from a single unreliable source. Since every other explanation I've heard has been obvious bull****, this is the one I'll choose to believe until I find evidence to contradict it. Not that it really matters. What does "NC3FD" stand for? ulysses I just happend across this, this morning. From http://www.soundfirst.com/xlr.html Richard At one time Cannon (now ITT Cannon) made a large circular connector series that was popular for microphones called the P series. Mics used the 3 pin P3 version. Some loudspeakers use the P4 or P8 versions of this connector to this day. In an attempt to make a smaller connector for the microphone market Cannon came out with the UA series. These were "D" shaped instead of circular and were used on such mics as the Electro-Voice 666, 666R, and 655C. There was a desire for a smaller yet connector. Someone pointed out the small circular Cannon X series. The problem with this was it had no latch. Cannon rearranged the pins and added a latch, and the XL (X series with Latch) was born. This is the connector others such as Switchcraft and later Neutrik have copied. Later Cannon modified the female end only to put the contacts in a Resilient Rubber compound. They called this new version the XLR series. No other company has copied this feature. It is amusing that XLR has become the generic term since what everyone else copied was the XL and not the XLR! |
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Did you ever see that movie "Groundhog Day"?
In article , rich rookie wrote: "Justin Ulysses Morse" wrote in message m... Dave Turner wrote: ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- Subject: ITT Cannon - Contact Us Date: Monday 17 Nov 2003 12:14 pm From: Technical Query To: '" Hello David As far as I know the XLR is just a series part number, it may have had an original meaning, however we have no info here on it. regards John Embleton Technical Support ITT Industries, Cannon Connector Division, Basingstoke. UK So that's the official answer. Official? It's not even an answer. He might just as well have said, "Who cares?" or "None of your damn business." Ray A. Rayburn gives further information which ties in with this at http://www.soundfirst.com/xlr.html which gives Now this explanation makes much more sense. But having been around the internet awhile I have learned the important truth that just because a story sounds plausible, or has been written, doesn't make it true. This explanation has been repeated by a few other people but for all I know they could have all gotten it from a single unreliable source. Since every other explanation I've heard has been obvious bull****, this is the one I'll choose to believe until I find evidence to contradict it. Not that it really matters. What does "NC3FD" stand for? ulysses I just happend across this, this morning. From http://www.soundfirst.com/xlr.html Richard At one time Cannon (now ITT Cannon) made a large circular connector series that was popular for microphones called the P series. Mics used the 3 pin P3 version. Some loudspeakers use the P4 or P8 versions of this connector to this day. In an attempt to make a smaller connector for the microphone market Cannon came out with the UA series. These were "D" shaped instead of circular and were used on such mics as the Electro-Voice 666, 666R, and 655C. There was a desire for a smaller yet connector. Someone pointed out the small circular Cannon X series. The problem with this was it had no latch. Cannon rearranged the pins and added a latch, and the XL (X series with Latch) was born. This is the connector others such as Switchcraft and later Neutrik have copied. Later Cannon modified the female end only to put the contacts in a Resilient Rubber compound. They called this new version the XLR series. No other company has copied this feature. It is amusing that XLR has become the generic term since what everyone else copied was the XL and not the XLR! |
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I'm still there.
"Justin Ulysses Morse" wrote in message m... Did you ever see that movie "Groundhog Day"? |
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I can see that.
In article , rich rookie wrote: I'm still there. "Justin Ulysses Morse" wrote in message m... Did you ever see that movie "Groundhog Day"? |
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"rich rookie" wrote in message news:yN6vb.7326 company has copied this feature. It is amusing that XLR has become the generic term since what everyone else copied was the XL and not the XLR! Naaa, they leeft the R on, because people looking for a *small* connector would be put off by XL ! geoff |
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Justin Ulysses Morse wrote:
Now this explanation makes much more sense. But having been around the internet awhile I have learned the important truth that just because a story sounds plausible, or has been written, doesn't make it true. This explanation has been repeated by a few other people but for all I know they could have all gotten it from a single unreliable source. Since every other explanation I've heard has been obvious bull****, this is the one I'll choose to believe until I find evidence to contradict it. Not that it really matters. What does "NC3FD" stand for? Neutrik Connector 3 pin Female ummm..... Graham |
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