Ian Iveson joined the Communist Party of Great Britain on the day that
Mr Gorbachev announced the last rites for Communism. That *may*
indicate a quixotic sense of humour -- in which case we should be able
to find evidence of it somewhere else, which we can't -- or straight-up
blind know-nothing stupidity. These days the suspicion repeatedly
arises that Iveson, behaving to pattern, has come into tubes too late
to learn anything. A good example:

Ian Iveson wrote:

I have dealt with your [[[Patrick Turner's]]] stupid "internal feedback" nonsense finally
and definitively elsewhere.

I must have missed that, Iveson. Could you give us a definitve reprise.
Copy and paste will do, with references to your key articles so we can
check the context.

I may occasionally repost, but it is
embarrassing to repeat the obvious.

Definitely, if you have something important to say, you should repost.
Like you reposted my material on slew rate and then announced that you
are the expert and people shouldn't listen to me. That was a hoot for
everyone except for you, I seem to remember.

Keep an eye out all the same.

All right. But what is your case, actually? These are just promises to
prove something. Promises are cheaper than ****. At least good **** is
manure, but promises are so much empty carbon monoxide.

Or, as I have suggested on many occasions, read the first couple of
chapters of *any* introduction to control systems engineering. Don't
buy the book, anything past chapter 3 would be beyond you.

Now that's funny, because I just looked up where I first heard about
internal feedback in DHT. It was in a letter from Christopher
Cockerell. Are you really suggesting, little Ian Iveson who wants to be
a tube amp maker, that you know more about such matters, or anything at
all, than Sir Christopher? You'll forgive me if I sound *extremely*
doubtful. No, no, I'm choking on a bolsie winegum, not laughing at you.

Ian

But hey, maybe you joined tubes like you joined the Communist Party of
Great Britain, because you know better than the movers and shakers.

But by all means let's see your argument, if you have one. Not pompous
statements about how you won the argument already, not supercilious
crap about "republishing" articles no one remembers seeing in the first
instance, not threats to impress us -- your actual electronic argument
to prove there is no native negative feedback in DHT. Amaze us by
saying something sensible for a change.

Looking forward to it.

Andre Jute
Unlike Iveson, I sell nothing

Visit Jute on Amps at http://members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/
"wonderfully well written and reasoned information
for the tube audio constructor"
John Broskie TubeCAD & GlassWare
"an unbelievably comprehensive web site
containing vital gems of wisdom"
Stuart Perry Hi-Fi News & Record Review

Andre Jute wrote:

Ian Iveson joined the Communist Party of Great Britain on the day that
Mr Gorbachev announced the last rites for Communism.

He did ?

Can you illustrate this ?

Graham

Ian Iveson joined the Communist Party of Great Britain on the day that
Mr Gorbachev announced the last rites for Communism. That *may*
indicate a quixotic sense of humour -- in which case we should be able
to find evidence of it somewhere else, which we can't -- or straight-up

blind know-nothing stupidity. These days the suspicion repeatedly
arises that Iveson, behaving to pattern, has come into tubes too late
to learn anything. A good example:

Ian Iveson wrote:
I have dealt with your [[[Patrick Turner's]]] stupid "internal feedback" nonsense finally
and definitively elsewhere.

I must have missed that, Iveson. Could you give us a definitve reprise.

Copy and paste will do, with references to your key articles so we can
check the context.

I may occasionally repost, but it is
embarrassing to repeat the obvious.

Definitely, if you have something important to say, you should repost.
Like you reposted my material on slew rate and then announced that you
are the expert and people shouldn't listen to me. That was a hoot for
everyone except for you, I seem to remember.

Keep an eye out all the same.

All right. But what is your case, actually? These are just promises to
prove something. Promises are cheaper than ****. At least good **** is
manure, but promises are so much empty carbon monoxide.

Or, as I have suggested on many occasions, read the first couple of
chapters of *any* introduction to control systems engineering. Don't
buy the book, anything past chapter 3 would be beyond you.

Now that's funny, because I just looked up where I first heard about
internal feedback in DHT. It was in a letter from Christopher
Cockerell. Are you really suggesting, little Ian Iveson who wants to be

a tube amp maker, that you know more about such matters, or anything at

all, than Sir Christopher? You'll forgive me if I sound *extremely*
doubtful. No, no, I'm choking on a bolsie winegum, not laughing at you.


Ian

But hey, maybe you joined tubes like you joined the Communist Party of
Great Britain, because you know better than the movers and shakers.

But by all means let's see your argument, if you have one. Not pompous
statements about how you won the argument already, not supercilious
crap about "republishing" articles no one remembers seeing in the first

instance, not threats to impress us -- your actual electronic argument
to prove there is no native negative feedback in DHT. Amaze us by
saying something sensible for a change.

Looking forward to it.

Andre Jute
Unlike Iveson, I sell nothing

Visit Jute on Amps at http://members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/
"wonderfully well written and reasoned information
for the tube audio constructor"
John Broskie TubeCAD & GlassWare
"an unbelievably comprehensive web site
containing vital gems of wisdom"
Stuart Perry Hi-Fi News & Record Review

Dédé Jute wrote :


Unlike Iveson, I sell nothing


Says Usenet whore... :-D

Yo, Iveson, for the third time of asking, where is the reference or
fresh argument to support this incredible statement from you:

Ian Iveson wrote:

I have dealt with your [[[Patrick Turner's]]] stupid "internal feedback" nonsense finally
and definitively elsewhere.

I look forward to hearing from you.

Andre Jute

Andre Jute wrote:
Ian Iveson joined the Communist Party of Great Britain on the day that
Mr Gorbachev announced the last rites for Communism. That *may*
indicate a quixotic sense of humour -- in which case we should be able
to find evidence of it somewhere else, which we can't -- or straight-up
blind know-nothing stupidity. These days the suspicion repeatedly
arises that Iveson, behaving to pattern, has come into tubes too late
to learn anything. A good example:

Ian Iveson wrote:

I have dealt with your [[[Patrick Turner's]]] stupid "internal feedback" nonsense finally
and definitively elsewhere.

I must have missed that, Iveson. Could you give us a definitve reprise.
Copy and paste will do, with references to your key articles so we can
check the context.

I may occasionally repost, but it is
embarrassing to repeat the obvious.

Definitely, if you have something important to say, you should repost.
Like you reposted my material on slew rate and then announced that you
are the expert and people shouldn't listen to me. That was a hoot for
everyone except for you, I seem to remember.

Keep an eye out all the same.

All right. But what is your case, actually? These are just promises to
prove something. Promises are cheaper than ****. At least good **** is
manure, but promises are so much empty carbon monoxide.

Or, as I have suggested on many occasions, read the first couple of
chapters of *any* introduction to control systems engineering. Don't
buy the book, anything past chapter 3 would be beyond you.

Now that's funny, because I just looked up where I first heard about
internal feedback in DHT. It was in a letter from Christopher
Cockerell. Are you really suggesting, little Ian Iveson who wants to be
a tube amp maker, that you know more about such matters, or anything at
all, than Sir Christopher? You'll forgive me if I sound *extremely*
doubtful. No, no, I'm choking on a bolsie winegum, not laughing at you.

Ian

But hey, maybe you joined tubes like you joined the Communist Party of
Great Britain, because you know better than the movers and shakers.

But by all means let's see your argument, if you have one. Not pompous
statements about how you won the argument already, not supercilious
crap about "republishing" articles no one remembers seeing in the first
instance, not threats to impress us -- your actual electronic argument
to prove there is no native negative feedback in DHT. Amaze us by
saying something sensible for a change.

Looking forward to it.

Andre Jute
Unlike Iveson, I sell nothing

Visit Jute on Amps at http://members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/
"wonderfully well written and reasoned information
for the tube audio constructor"
John Broskie TubeCAD & GlassWare
"an unbelievably comprehensive web site
containing vital gems of wisdom"
Stuart Perry Hi-Fi News & Record Review