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Bob Cain wrote: Ty Ford wrote: I DARE Roger, Pete and the others to do just that, or start their own newsgroup. Oddly, even though it's apparent that their comments are not welcome here, they don't seem to have what it takes. You, sir, are making yourself irrelevant with all of your pompous, ad-hominen crap. And notice he rarely mentions Will, his political mouth piece. |
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Bob Cain wrote: Ty Ford wrote: I DARE Roger, Pete and the others to do just that, or start their own newsgroup. Oddly, even though it's apparent that their comments are not welcome here, they don't seem to have what it takes. You, sir, are making yourself irrelevant with all of your pompous, ad-hominen crap. And notice he rarely mentions Will, his political mouth piece. |
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Blind Joni wrote: Roger said he was"taking it out on loved ones"..I don't know what that means. It means he is sorry that his posting and getting it off his mind upsets you. Because he luvs ya man! |
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Blind Joni wrote: Roger said he was"taking it out on loved ones"..I don't know what that means. It means he is sorry that his posting and getting it off his mind upsets you. Because he luvs ya man! |
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George wrote:
America is doing great evil America is creating terroists with it policy America Didn't create screwed up minds that decided brutally killing people is a good policy to follow for the whole world. That is a by product of people operating at the base emotional levels of life unwilling or unable to advance beyond it. Terrorist are wrong. They are not freedom fighters, Revolutionary Hero's or any other euphemism people have dreamed up to excuse the horrific behavior. Stop defending them. -- Nathan "Imagine if there were no Hypothetical Situations" |
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George wrote:
America is doing great evil America is creating terroists with it policy America Didn't create screwed up minds that decided brutally killing people is a good policy to follow for the whole world. That is a by product of people operating at the base emotional levels of life unwilling or unable to advance beyond it. Terrorist are wrong. They are not freedom fighters, Revolutionary Hero's or any other euphemism people have dreamed up to excuse the horrific behavior. Stop defending them. -- Nathan "Imagine if there were no Hypothetical Situations" |
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Nathan West wrote: America Didn't create screwed up minds that decided brutally killing people is a good policy to follow for the whole world. That is a by product of people operating at the base emotional levels of life unwilling or unable to advance beyond it. Ture. But Bush has created a climate for them to rally against us. More than ever. |
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Nathan West wrote: America Didn't create screwed up minds that decided brutally killing people is a good policy to follow for the whole world. That is a by product of people operating at the base emotional levels of life unwilling or unable to advance beyond it. Ture. But Bush has created a climate for them to rally against us. More than ever. |
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Nathan West wrote: George wrote: America is doing great evil America is creating terroists with it policy America Didn't create screwed up minds that decided brutally killing people is a good policy to follow for the whole world. That is a by product of people operating at the base emotional levels of life unwilling or unable to advance beyond it. Terrorist are wrong. They are not freedom fighters, Revolutionary Hero's or any other euphemism people have dreamed up to excuse the horrific behavior. Stop defending them. -- Nathan "Imagine if there were no Hypothetical Situations" Dear hate moner I ndid not sat America created EVERY terroist, just that our policy of demanding other countries to bow and suck american dick (or bush) is creating "lots" of terroists(as america defines them) if one wants to stop terrosim first they should stop acting as terroists George |
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Nathan West wrote: George wrote: America is doing great evil America is creating terroists with it policy America Didn't create screwed up minds that decided brutally killing people is a good policy to follow for the whole world. That is a by product of people operating at the base emotional levels of life unwilling or unable to advance beyond it. Terrorist are wrong. They are not freedom fighters, Revolutionary Hero's or any other euphemism people have dreamed up to excuse the horrific behavior. Stop defending them. -- Nathan "Imagine if there were no Hypothetical Situations" Dear hate moner I ndid not sat America created EVERY terroist, just that our policy of demanding other countries to bow and suck american dick (or bush) is creating "lots" of terroists(as america defines them) if one wants to stop terrosim first they should stop acting as terroists George |
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"George" wrote in message
... Dear hate moner I ndid not sat America created EVERY terroist, just that our policy of demanding other countries to bow and suck american dick (or bush) is creating "lots" of terroists(as america defines them) if one wants to stop terrosim first they should stop acting as terroists George At least half the terrorist acts lately were committed against countries that directly refused to support the US so I don't think that's the answer. |
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"George" wrote in message
... Dear hate moner I ndid not sat America created EVERY terroist, just that our policy of demanding other countries to bow and suck american dick (or bush) is creating "lots" of terroists(as america defines them) if one wants to stop terrosim first they should stop acting as terroists George At least half the terrorist acts lately were committed against countries that directly refused to support the US so I don't think that's the answer. |
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Terrorists are wrong. They are not freedom fighters, revolutionary
heros or any other euphemism people have dreamed up to excuse the horrific behavior. Stop defending them. Understanding is not defending. There is a reason for what they do. It goes back (generally) to the Crusades, and more recently since around 1800 when Europe started aggressively interfering in the Middle East. What we're currently seeing is most-likely due to America's overthrowing the legally elected government of Iran -- fifty years ago. If you don't understand them, you can't control them. And terrorism is fundamentally a social/political problem. It's not enough just to round up the terrorists. You also have to get the countries of the Middle East to work with you to make sure they can't start their own cells, or move easily from country to country. Once that's done, then we can start worrying about "freedom" and "liberty." The neo-con's belief that bringing democracy (ie, unrestrained capitalism) to the Middle East will make everything hunky-dorey is hopelessly naive. The world just doesn't work that way. |
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Terrorists are wrong. They are not freedom fighters, revolutionary
heros or any other euphemism people have dreamed up to excuse the horrific behavior. Stop defending them. Understanding is not defending. There is a reason for what they do. It goes back (generally) to the Crusades, and more recently since around 1800 when Europe started aggressively interfering in the Middle East. What we're currently seeing is most-likely due to America's overthrowing the legally elected government of Iran -- fifty years ago. If you don't understand them, you can't control them. And terrorism is fundamentally a social/political problem. It's not enough just to round up the terrorists. You also have to get the countries of the Middle East to work with you to make sure they can't start their own cells, or move easily from country to country. Once that's done, then we can start worrying about "freedom" and "liberty." The neo-con's belief that bringing democracy (ie, unrestrained capitalism) to the Middle East will make everything hunky-dorey is hopelessly naive. The world just doesn't work that way. |
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ospam (WillStG) wrote: George Nathan West wrote: Terrorist are wrong. They are not freedom fighters, Revolutionary Hero's or any other euphemism people have dreamed up to excuse the horrific behavior. Dear hate moner I ndid not sat America created EVERY terroist, just that our policy of demanding other countries to bow and suck american dick (or bush) is creating "lots" of terroists(as america defines them So now *Nathan West* is a hate monger George? Are you SURE you're not really a drummer? we all are many diffrent things at different times and situations I have been known to sell gear at cost and donate my services to churches but don't let it get out(I have a reputation to protect) George |
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I have been known to sell gear at cost and donate my services to churches
but don't let it get out(I have a reputation to protect) Please tell me they don't have to listen to the "God Myth" speech to get a good deal from you! :-) |
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I have been known to sell gear at cost and donate my services to churches
but don't let it get out(I have a reputation to protect) Please tell me they don't have to listen to the "God Myth" speech to get a good deal from you! :-) |
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Correction: America DID create, in your words, some of the "screwed up
minds that decided brutally killing people is a good policy to follow for the whole world". Terrorism in your case is just a matter of semantics. If a country has a military, does that somehow make it's killing of women and children more legitimate? Arafat is a democratically elected leader, as is Aslan Mashkadov. Why are their soldiers labeled "terrorists"? Because they lack a significant financial backing? Nathan West wrote in message ... George wrote: America is doing great evil America is creating terroists with it policy America Didn't create screwed up minds that decided brutally killing people is a good policy to follow for the whole world. That is a by product of people operating at the base emotional levels of life unwilling or unable to advance beyond it. Terrorist are wrong. They are not freedom fighters, Revolutionary Hero's or any other euphemism people have dreamed up to excuse the horrific behavior. Stop defending them. |
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Correction: America DID create, in your words, some of the "screwed up
minds that decided brutally killing people is a good policy to follow for the whole world". Terrorism in your case is just a matter of semantics. If a country has a military, does that somehow make it's killing of women and children more legitimate? Arafat is a democratically elected leader, as is Aslan Mashkadov. Why are their soldiers labeled "terrorists"? Because they lack a significant financial backing? Nathan West wrote in message ... George wrote: America is doing great evil America is creating terroists with it policy America Didn't create screwed up minds that decided brutally killing people is a good policy to follow for the whole world. That is a by product of people operating at the base emotional levels of life unwilling or unable to advance beyond it. Terrorist are wrong. They are not freedom fighters, Revolutionary Hero's or any other euphemism people have dreamed up to excuse the horrific behavior. Stop defending them. |
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Ricky W. Hunt wrote: At least half the terrorist acts lately were committed against countries that directly refused to support the US so I don't think that's the answer. Or the question. |
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Ricky W. Hunt wrote: At least half the terrorist acts lately were committed against countries that directly refused to support the US so I don't think that's the answer. Or the question. |
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William Sommerwerck wrote: The neo-con's belief that bringing democracy (ie, unrestrained capitalism) to the Middle East will make everything hunky-dorey is hopelessly naive. I think it goes past that even. It is so transparently false that no one with an education in such matters could give it a moment's serious consideration. That's always been the "big lie" method of governing or propegandizing. There is something about whoppers so big as to defy the logic of telling them that paradoxically makes them credible. Go figure. I think it was Goebles and Hitler who first came up with that and found it to be so remarkably effective. Tangent: I have a friend who was involved in the NLP (Neuro Linguistic Programming) center here for a bit and she said that the speech Bush gave at the convention might have been borrowed from their course work (and will certainly be a contribution to it.) NLP was an academic comet that fizzled when researchers began to pull away from it because of its real manipulative power and the way that it was starting to be exploited by the less ethical. It is by no means inactive but it is very quiet these days and the center serves a well heeled clientelle very discretely. Bob -- "Things should be described as simply as possible, but no simpler." A. Einstein |
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William Sommerwerck wrote: The neo-con's belief that bringing democracy (ie, unrestrained capitalism) to the Middle East will make everything hunky-dorey is hopelessly naive. I think it goes past that even. It is so transparently false that no one with an education in such matters could give it a moment's serious consideration. That's always been the "big lie" method of governing or propegandizing. There is something about whoppers so big as to defy the logic of telling them that paradoxically makes them credible. Go figure. I think it was Goebles and Hitler who first came up with that and found it to be so remarkably effective. Tangent: I have a friend who was involved in the NLP (Neuro Linguistic Programming) center here for a bit and she said that the speech Bush gave at the convention might have been borrowed from their course work (and will certainly be a contribution to it.) NLP was an academic comet that fizzled when researchers began to pull away from it because of its real manipulative power and the way that it was starting to be exploited by the less ethical. It is by no means inactive but it is very quiet these days and the center serves a well heeled clientelle very discretely. Bob -- "Things should be described as simply as possible, but no simpler." A. Einstein |
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On Mon, 6 Sep 2004 09:46:38 -0400, Pete Dimsman wrote
(in article ): Bob Cain wrote: Ty Ford wrote: I DARE Roger, Pete and the others to do just that, or start their own newsgroup. Oddly, even though it's apparent that their comments are not welcome here, they don't seem to have what it takes. You, sir, are making yourself irrelevant with all of your pompous, ad-hominen crap. As usual, Bob, you describe yourself; irrelevant to the charter of this news group. Or is it that you just think you're above everyone else? Ty Ford -- Ty Ford's equipment reviews, audio samples, rates and other audiocentric stuff are at www.tyford.com |
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On Mon, 6 Sep 2004 09:46:38 -0400, Pete Dimsman wrote
(in article ): Bob Cain wrote: Ty Ford wrote: I DARE Roger, Pete and the others to do just that, or start their own newsgroup. Oddly, even though it's apparent that their comments are not welcome here, they don't seem to have what it takes. You, sir, are making yourself irrelevant with all of your pompous, ad-hominen crap. As usual, Bob, you describe yourself; irrelevant to the charter of this news group. Or is it that you just think you're above everyone else? Ty Ford -- Ty Ford's equipment reviews, audio samples, rates and other audiocentric stuff are at www.tyford.com |
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On Mon, 6 Sep 2004 10:00:24 -0400, WillStG wrote
(in article ): Pete Dimsman And notice he rarely mentions Will, his political mouth piece. You are way too full of yourself to have any kind of a grasp on reality Dimbulb. Fact is, Ty sent me an email telling me to shut the F up. When I pointed out that what he had quoted that I wrote was actually pretty much on topic and asked him to give me an F'n break, he shot back that should give the group and "F'n break. See Ty has the respect of the regulars in this group, he is actually an audio professional. But almost nobody, even those who agree with your politics have such an opinion of you. Make about 300 *and ten* on topic posts, maybe you can change that by getting your OT to On-topic ration to about 50-50. Short of that shills are like trolls, not greatly appreciated. You ain't helping yourself or your Candidate anyway. Will Miho Thank you Will. Peter and Bob should leave to start afresh in a new land where they can create the sort of personalized landscape that pleases them. They wanna come back and talk audio, fine, we'll stamp their visas, let 'em in and show them the door as we are now when they need to talk politics, religion or other OT stuff. You'll notice Bob, I had no complaints about the doppler string. Regards, Ty Ford -- Ty Ford's equipment reviews, audio samples, rates and other audiocentric stuff are at www.tyford.com |
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On Mon, 6 Sep 2004 10:00:24 -0400, WillStG wrote
(in article ): Pete Dimsman And notice he rarely mentions Will, his political mouth piece. You are way too full of yourself to have any kind of a grasp on reality Dimbulb. Fact is, Ty sent me an email telling me to shut the F up. When I pointed out that what he had quoted that I wrote was actually pretty much on topic and asked him to give me an F'n break, he shot back that should give the group and "F'n break. See Ty has the respect of the regulars in this group, he is actually an audio professional. But almost nobody, even those who agree with your politics have such an opinion of you. Make about 300 *and ten* on topic posts, maybe you can change that by getting your OT to On-topic ration to about 50-50. Short of that shills are like trolls, not greatly appreciated. You ain't helping yourself or your Candidate anyway. Will Miho Thank you Will. Peter and Bob should leave to start afresh in a new land where they can create the sort of personalized landscape that pleases them. They wanna come back and talk audio, fine, we'll stamp their visas, let 'em in and show them the door as we are now when they need to talk politics, religion or other OT stuff. You'll notice Bob, I had no complaints about the doppler string. Regards, Ty Ford -- Ty Ford's equipment reviews, audio samples, rates and other audiocentric stuff are at www.tyford.com |
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Pete Dimsman wrote: Ture. But Bush has created a climate for them to rally against us. More than ever. Terrorist were attacking the US long before Bush. Two Examples: The Cole and the WTC in the early 90's. It is hardly a phenomenon developed by his policies. They are psychotics with evil intent bent on destroying life for reasons archaic as their actions. -- Nathan "Imagine if there were no Hypothetical Situations" |
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Pete Dimsman wrote: Ture. But Bush has created a climate for them to rally against us. More than ever. Terrorist were attacking the US long before Bush. Two Examples: The Cole and the WTC in the early 90's. It is hardly a phenomenon developed by his policies. They are psychotics with evil intent bent on destroying life for reasons archaic as their actions. -- Nathan "Imagine if there were no Hypothetical Situations" |
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"Bill G." wrote:
Terrorism in your case is just a matter of semantics. If a country has a military, does that somehow make it's killing of women and children more legitimate? Arafat is a democratically elected leader, as is Aslan Mashkadov. Why are their soldiers labeled "terrorists"? Because they lack a significant financial backing? Are you insane? Drunk? What is it? I call evil people who drive a car into a populated area with the intent to blow up anyone they can, children, women, men, husbands,wives etc... an evil psychotic terrorist. I don't care what politics you have decided to color the intention with. It is wrong, and defending it, believing them to be *okay* because of purpose or as *their means to an end* is absolutely the most horrific twisted thinking you can come up with. Perhaps you want one of your children to be part of what happen in the Chechnya school this week? You know...they were *freedom fighters* Or maybe you'd like to move to Sudan (who has a military) and enjoy the brutality and starvation and murder. It's all for the better cause of freedom in life isn't it? -- Nathan "Imagine if there were no Hypothetical Situations" |
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"Bill G." wrote:
Terrorism in your case is just a matter of semantics. If a country has a military, does that somehow make it's killing of women and children more legitimate? Arafat is a democratically elected leader, as is Aslan Mashkadov. Why are their soldiers labeled "terrorists"? Because they lack a significant financial backing? Are you insane? Drunk? What is it? I call evil people who drive a car into a populated area with the intent to blow up anyone they can, children, women, men, husbands,wives etc... an evil psychotic terrorist. I don't care what politics you have decided to color the intention with. It is wrong, and defending it, believing them to be *okay* because of purpose or as *their means to an end* is absolutely the most horrific twisted thinking you can come up with. Perhaps you want one of your children to be part of what happen in the Chechnya school this week? You know...they were *freedom fighters* Or maybe you'd like to move to Sudan (who has a military) and enjoy the brutality and starvation and murder. It's all for the better cause of freedom in life isn't it? -- Nathan "Imagine if there were no Hypothetical Situations" |
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Nathan West wrote: Pete Dimsman wrote: Ture. But Bush has created a climate for them to rally against us. More than ever. Terrorist were attacking the US long before Bush. Two Examples: The Cole and the WTC in the early 90's. It is hardly a phenomenon developed by his policies. They are psychotics with evil intent bent on destroying life for reasons archaic as their actions. You are correct BUSH did not invent terrorism, the USA has been creating terrorist for eons He just altered the world political climate to conditions were terrorists thrive and multiply He VASTLY increased the threat of terrorsism George |
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Nathan West wrote: Pete Dimsman wrote: Ture. But Bush has created a climate for them to rally against us. More than ever. Terrorist were attacking the US long before Bush. Two Examples: The Cole and the WTC in the early 90's. It is hardly a phenomenon developed by his policies. They are psychotics with evil intent bent on destroying life for reasons archaic as their actions. You are correct BUSH did not invent terrorism, the USA has been creating terrorist for eons He just altered the world political climate to conditions were terrorists thrive and multiply He VASTLY increased the threat of terrorsism George |
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