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Amps ARE responsible for imaging.
"Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... " wrote in message What's your take on the idea that amps are responsible for imaging? Everybody with a brain knows that recordings and speakers are primarily responsible for imaging. Most perceptions that an amp affects imaging are based on: (1) A really bad amp. While recordings and speakers are primarily responsible for imaging, it is incorrect to leave out the effect of the amplifier. It is apparent to a many of us that many so called "properly operating amplifiers" do not sound the same. Many listeners believe that some amplifiers provide more information, ie., a data stream with greater entropy, than other amplifiers which apparently satisfy on the test bench. Unlike sounds used to test localization, such as artificial transients, handclaps, test tones, etc., the experience of listening to music consists of a sequence of events. Some of these events consist of a complex juxtaposition in time, and space, of sounds necessary to reproduce a musical instrument. In a pyramidal way, the events of music, which at the simplest, consist of sound emitted and precisely modulated by a single musical instrument, are conjoined to provide a mental experience that encompasses the mood and alertness of the listener. At any instant, the focus of the listener can be either outward, anticipating an event, or inwards, in reaction and contemplation. The transmission of a signal through an amplifier, since it is an analog process, includes a reduction of what Information Theorists refer to as Symbol Rate. If enough amplifiers were concatenated in series, the result would be white noise. But even one amplifier has this effect, to a small, but inevitably noticeably degree. Listeners to music are made aware of the shape and extent of the soundstage by complex mental analysis of the entirety of the experience. They are frequently convinced that some amplifiers provide a larger soundstage, or greater localization, than others. Would their claims be consonant with experiments performed with simple test tones and impulsive sounds? This is an irrelevant question, because the human mind is the ultimate arbiter of the richness of the experience. When the listener sees in his mind a soundstage of ultimate clarity, it is because the reproduction chain has provided the necessary information to construct it. Because it is a mental experience, the current state of science can neither dispute nor confirm this, but only note that some amplifiers provide this more abundantly than others. Unfortunately, rec.audio.opinion has recently been under an asssault by some individuals who, for reasons unknown, are an adulterative influence on hifi as a hobby and a pleasure. We post these mini "white papers" in order to provide you, the listener, with a firm foundation for a wise choice. Our current opinion is that your faculties of choice will be most acute if you listen to components while actually able to see them, in a place of your choice and convenience. Level matching is not important. What is important is the ability to easily vary the volume control so that the optimum listening level is reached for each component. You are also likely to find that a particular amplifier or speaker works best with a particular recorded work. It is for these reasons that we discourage attempts at "blind testing", which may also use switching devices of doubtful transparency. THE RAO WHITEPAPER TEAM |
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"RAO WHITEPAPER TEAM" wrote in message ... "Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... " wrote in message What's your take on the idea that amps are responsible for imaging? Everybody with a brain knows that recordings and speakers are primarily responsible for imaging. Most perceptions that an amp affects imaging are based on: (1) A really bad amp. While recordings and speakers are primarily responsible for imaging, it is incorrect to leave out the effect of the amplifier. It is apparent to a many of us that many so called "properly operating amplifiers" do not sound the same. Many listeners believe that some amplifiers provide more information, ie., a data stream with greater entropy, than other amplifiers which apparently satisfy on the test bench. Unlike sounds used to test localization, such as artificial transients, handclaps, test tones, etc., the experience of listening to music consists of a sequence of events. Some of these events consist of a complex juxtaposition in time, and space, of sounds necessary to reproduce a musical instrument. In a pyramidal way, the events of music, which at the simplest, consist of sound emitted and precisely modulated by a single musical instrument, are conjoined to provide a mental experience that encompasses the mood and alertness of the listener. At any instant, the focus of the listener can be either outward, anticipating an event, or inwards, in reaction and contemplation. The transmission of a signal through an amplifier, since it is an analog process, includes a reduction of what Information Theorists refer to as Symbol Rate. If enough amplifiers were concatenated in series, the result would be white noise. But even one amplifier has this effect, to a small, but inevitably noticeably degree. Listeners to music are made aware of the shape and extent of the soundstage by complex mental analysis of the entirety of the experience. They are frequently convinced that some amplifiers provide a larger soundstage, or greater localization, than others. Would their claims be consonant with experiments performed with simple test tones and impulsive sounds? This is an irrelevant question, because the human mind is the ultimate arbiter of the richness of the experience. When the listener sees in his mind a soundstage of ultimate clarity, it is because the reproduction chain has provided the necessary information to construct it. Because it is a mental experience, the current state of science can neither dispute nor confirm this, but only note that some amplifiers provide this more abundantly than others. Unfortunately, rec.audio.opinion has recently been under an asssault by some individuals who, for reasons unknown, are an adulterative influence on hifi as a hobby and a pleasure. We post these mini "white papers" in order to provide you, the listener, with a firm foundation for a wise choice. Our current opinion is that your faculties of choice will be most acute if you listen to components while actually able to see them, in a place of your choice and convenience. Level matching is not important. What is important is the ability to easily vary the volume control so that the optimum listening level is reached for each component. You are also likely to find that a particular amplifier or speaker works best with a particular recorded work. It is for these reasons that we discourage attempts at "blind testing", which may also use switching devices of doubtful transparency. THE RAO WHITEPAPER TEAM Headed up by Tweedledum and Tweedledumer. |
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"RAO WHITEPAPER TEAM" wrote in message ... "Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... " wrote in message What's your take on the idea that amps are responsible for imaging? Everybody with a brain knows that recordings and speakers are primarily responsible for imaging. Most perceptions that an amp affects imaging are based on: (1) A really bad amp. While recordings and speakers are primarily responsible for imaging, it is incorrect to leave out the effect of the amplifier. [snip] The transmission of a signal through an amplifier, since it is an analog process, includes a reduction of what Information Theorists refer to as Symbol Rate. This is an interesting post. The only problem I have with it is that many reports of superior imaging come from users of vacuum tube equipment, and even SET equipment. So the author(s) of the post leave out an interesting possibility: that by manipulating the presentation, the soundstage can become more palpable. |
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"Robert Morein" wrote in message ... "RAO WHITEPAPER TEAM" wrote in message ... "Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... " wrote in message What's your take on the idea that amps are responsible for imaging? Everybody with a brain knows that recordings and speakers are primarily responsible for imaging. Most perceptions that an amp affects imaging are based on: (1) A really bad amp. While recordings and speakers are primarily responsible for imaging, it is incorrect to leave out the effect of the amplifier. [snip] The transmission of a signal through an amplifier, since it is an analog process, includes a reduction of what Information Theorists refer to as Symbol Rate. This is an interesting post. The only problem I have with it is that many reports of superior imaging come from users of vacuum tube equipment, and even SET equipment. So the author(s) of the post leave out an interesting possibility: that by manipulating the presentation, the soundstage can become more palpable. Thank you Teedledum. |
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As he told the newspaper when they interviewed him, none of it is what he had imagined for himself. "I don't really have a replacement career," Morein said. "It's a very gnawing thing." Think about it. . . My one and only son has lived in the same room, in the same house, in MY house, since the early 1950's. He's never had a job. NEVER. He always impressed everyone as a "smart guy", although I know now he's just a bull**** artist. SURE he's "smart" - he went to college for almost 20 years on my dime! His room is filled with electronics, computers, wires, empty beer cans, and all nature of trash. He rarely leaves the house, but spends hours in the basement "inventing". Do you know how many times we've had police, FBI, Secret Service, and other investigators here? They won't charge him because he's mentally ill. $100,000 to the first person that can get this 53 year old into a job, any job, and out of my house. Sylvan Morein, DDS PROVEN PUBLISHED FACTS about my Son, Robert Morein -- Robert Morein History -- http://www.ledger-enquirer.com/mld/l...ws/4853918.htm Doctoral student takes intellectual property case to Supreme Court By L. STUART DITZEN Philadelphia Inquirer PHILADELPHIA -Even the professors who dismissed him from a doctoral program at Drexel University agreed that Robert Morein was uncommonly smart. They apparently didn't realize that he was uncommonly stubborn too - so much so that he would mount a court fight all the way to the U.S. Supreme Court to challenge his dismissal. The Supremes have already rejected this appeal, btw. "It's a personality trait I have - I'm a tenacious guy," said Morein, a pleasantly eccentric man regarded by friends as an inventive genius. "And we do come to a larger issue here." An "inventive genius" that has never invented anything. And hardly "pleasantly" eccentric. A five-year legal battle between this unusual ex-student and one of Philadelphia's premier educational institutions has gone largely unnoticed by the media and the public. Because no one gives a **** about a 50 year old loser. But it has been the subject of much attention in academia. Drexel says it dismissed Morein in 1995 because he failed, after eight years, to complete a thesis required for a doctorate in electrical and computer engineering. Not to mention the 12 years it took him to get thru high school! BWAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Morein, 50, of Dresher, Pa., contends that he was dismissed only after his thesis adviser "appropriated" an innovative idea Morein had developed in a rarefied area of thought called "estimation theory" and arranged to have it patented. A contention rejected by three courts. From a 50 YEAR OLD that has done NOTHING PRODUCTIVE with his life. In February 2000, Philadelphia Common Pleas Court Judge Esther R. Sylvester ruled that Morein's adviser indeed had taken his idea. An idea that was worth nothing, because it didn't work. Just like Robert Morein, who has never worked a day in his life. Sylvester held that Morein had been unjustly dismissed and she ordered Drexel to reinstate him or refund his tuition. Funnily enough, Drexel AGREED to reinstate Morein, who rejected the offer because he knew he was and IS a failed loser. Spending daddy's money to cover up his lack of productivity. That brought roars of protest from the lions of academia. There is a long tradition in America of noninterference by the courts in academic decisions. Backed by every major university in Pennsylvania and organizations representing thousands of others around the country, Drexel appealed to the state Superior Court. The appellate court, by a 2-1 vote, reversed Sylvester in June 2001 and restored the status quo. Morein was, once again, out at Drexel. And the time-honored axiom that courts ought to keep their noses out of academic affairs was reasserted. The state Supreme Court declined to review the case and, in an ordinary litigation, that would have been the end of it. But Morein, in a quixotic gesture that goes steeply against the odds, has asked the highest court in the land to give him a hearing. Daddy throws more money down the crapper. His attorney, Faye Riva Cohen, said the Supreme Court appeal is important even if it fails because it raises the issue of whether a university has a right to lay claim to a student's ideas - or intellectual property - without compensation. "Any time you are in a Ph.D. program, you are a serf, you are a slave," said Cohen. Morein "is concerned not only for himself. He feels that what happened to him is pretty common." It's called HIGHER EDUCATION, honey. The students aren't in charge, the UNIVERSITY and PROFESSORS are. Drexel's attorney, Neil J. Hamburg, called Morein's appeal - and his claim that his idea was stolen - "preposterous." "I will eat my shoe if the Supreme Court hears this case," declared Hamburg. "We're not even going to file a response. He is a brilliant guy, but his intelligence should be used for the advancement of society rather than pursuing self-destructive litigation." No **** sherlock. The litigation began in 1997, when Morein sued Drexel claiming that a committee of professors had dumped him after he accused his faculty adviser, Paul Kalata, of appropriating his idea. His concept was considered to have potential value for businesses in minutely measuring the internal functions of machines, industrial processes and electronic systems. The field of "estimation theory" is one in which scientists attempt to calculate what they cannot plainly observe, such as the inside workings of a nuclear plant or a computer. My estimation theory? There is NO brain at work inside the head of Robert Morein, only sawdust. Prior to Morein's dismissal, Drexel looked into his complaint against Kalata and concluded that the associate professor had done nothing wrong. Kalata, through a university lawyer, declined to comment. At a nonjury trial before Sylvester in 1999, Morein testified that Kalata in 1990 had posed a technical problem for him to study for his thesis. It related to estimation theory. Kalata, who did not appear at the trial, said in a 1998 deposition that a Cherry Hill company for which he was a paid consultant, K-Tron International, had asked him to develop an alternate estimation method for it. The company manufactures bulk material feeders and conveyors used in industrial processes. Morein testified that, after much study, he experienced "a flash of inspiration" and came up with a novel mathematical concept to address the problem Kalata had presented. Without his knowledge, Morein said, Kalata shared the idea with K-Tron. K-Tron then applied for a patent, listing Kalata and Morein as co-inventors. Morein said he agreed "under duress" to the arrangement, but felt "locked into a highly disadvantageous situation." As a result, he testified, he became alienated from Kalata. As events unfolded, Kalata signed over his interest in the patent to K-Tron. The company never capitalized on the technology and eventually allowed the patent to lapse. No one made any money from it. Because it was bogus. Even Kalata was mortified that he was a victim of this SCAMSTER, Robert Morein. In 1991, Morein went to the head of Drexel's electrical engineering department, accused Kalata of appropriating his intellectual property, and asked for a new faculty adviser. The staff at Drexel laughed wildly at the ignorance of Robert Morein. He didn't get one. Instead, a committee of four professors, including Kalata, was formed to oversee Morein's thesis work. Four years later, the committee dismissed him, saying he had failed to complete his thesis. So Morein ****s up his first couple years, gets new faculty advisers (a TEAM), and then ****s up again! Brilliant! Morein claimed that the committee intentionally had undermined him. Morein makes LOTS of claims that are nonsense. One look thru the usenet proves it. Judge Sylvester agreed. In her ruling, Sylvester wrote: "It is this court's opinion that the defendants were motivated by bad faith and ill will." So much for political machine judges. The U.S. Supreme Court receives 7,000 appeals a year and agrees to hear only about 100 of them. Hamburg, Drexel's attorney, is betting the high court will reject Morein's appeal out of hand because its focal point - concerning a student's right to intellectual property - was not central to the litigation in the Pennsylvania courts. Morein said he understands it's a long shot, but he feels he must pursue it. Failure. Look it up in Websters. You'll see a picture of Robert Morein. The poster boy for SCAMMING LOSERS. "I had to seek closure," he said. Without a doctorate, he said, he has been unable to pursue a career he had hoped would lead him into research on artificial intelligence. Who better to tell us about "artificial intelligence". BWAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! As it is, Morein lives at home with his father and makes a modest income from stock investments. He has written a film script that he is trying to make into a movie. And in the basement of his father's home he is working on an invention, an industrial pump so powerful it could cut steel with a bulletlike stream of water. FAILED STUDENT FAILED MOVIE MAKER FAILED SCREENWRITER FAILED INVESTOR FAILED DRIVER FAILED SON FAILED PARENTS FAILED INVENTOR FAILED PLAINTIFF FAILED HOMOSEXUAL FAILED HUMAN FAILED FAILED But none of it is what he had imagined for himself. "I don't really have a replacement career," Morein said. "It's a very gnawing thing." |
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To those of you in aus.hi-fi who are concerned about the above crossposting:
The offending individual is Brian L. McCarty, a pest on rec.audio.marketplace, where he accuses innocent sellers of various misdeeds. He appears to be a pathological liar, with unknown motivations. McCarty is the owner of websites http://www.coralseastudios.com, and http://www.worldjazz.com, both of which have used fraudulent advertising in attempts to attract investors. Both have been unsuccessful. McCarty is an American expatriate, originally from the Chicago area, then LA where he worked as a sound mixer, currently living in Cairns Australia, where he manages the Baskin-Robbins ice cream franchise located at Shop G6, 59 The Esplanade Cairns QLD 4870 07 4051 4034 McCarty lives in the Coral Sands apartment complex at 65 Vasey Esplanade, Trinity beach, a bit north of metropolitan Cairns. Baskin-Robbins Australia may be contacted at . |
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"Robert Morein" wrote in message
news To those of you in aus.hi-fi who are concerned about the above crossposting: The offending individual is Brian L. McCarty, a pest on rec.audio.marketplace, where he accuses innocent sellers of various misdeeds. And you are NOT a cross poster??? |
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"RAO WHITEPAPER TEAM" wrote in
message "Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... " wrote in message What's your take on the idea that amps are responsible for imaging? Everybody with a brain knows that recordings and speakers are primarily responsible for imaging. Most perceptions that an amp affects imaging are based on: (1) A really bad amp. While recordings and speakers are primarily responsible for imaging, it is incorrect to leave out the effect of the amplifier. Of course. What's unclear about my statement that a really bad amp can trash imaging? It is apparent to a many of us that many so called "properly operating amplifiers" do not sound the same. The use of the apparent is appropriate here because it includes the effects of illusions. Many listeners believe that some amplifiers provide more information, ie., a data stream with greater entropy, than other amplifiers which apparently satisfy on the test bench. Just because so many people thought that the world was flat 100's of years ago, doesn't make it so. Unlike sounds used to test localization, such as artificial transients, handclaps, test tones, etc., the experience of listening to music consists of a sequence of events. Tests with music show that a good amp has zero reliably perceptible effect on imaging. snip remaining redundant information |
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" wrote in message link.net... "Robert Morein" wrote in message ... "RAO WHITEPAPER TEAM" wrote in message ... "Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... " wrote in message What's your take on the idea that amps are responsible for imaging? Everybody with a brain knows that recordings and speakers are primarily responsible for imaging. Most perceptions that an amp affects imaging are based on: (1) A really bad amp. While recordings and speakers are primarily responsible for imaging, it is incorrect to leave out the effect of the amplifier. [snip] The transmission of a signal through an amplifier, since it is an analog process, includes a reduction of what Information Theorists refer to as Symbol Rate. This is an interesting post. The only problem I have with it is that many reports of superior imaging come from users of vacuum tube equipment, and even SET equipment. So the author(s) of the post leave out an interesting possibility: that by manipulating the presentation, the soundstage can become more palpable. Thank you Teedledum. |
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" wrote in message link.net... "Robert Morein" wrote in message ... "RAO WHITEPAPER TEAM" wrote in message ... "Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... " wrote in message What's your take on the idea that amps are responsible for imaging? Everybody with a brain knows that recordings and speakers are primarily responsible for imaging. Most perceptions that an amp affects imaging are based on: (1) A really bad amp. While recordings and speakers are primarily responsible for imaging, it is incorrect to leave out the effect of the amplifier. [snip] The transmission of a signal through an amplifier, since it is an analog process, includes a reduction of what Information Theorists refer to as Symbol Rate. This is an interesting post. The only problem I have with it is that many reports of superior imaging come from users of vacuum tube equipment, and even SET equipment. So the author(s) of the post leave out an interesting possibility: that by manipulating the presentation, the soundstage can become more palpable. Thank you Teedledum. You illiterate idiot. |
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"Clyde Slick" wrote in message
You illiterate idiot. A classic post, one that is typical of the very best that Art can give this group. |
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"roughplanet" wrote in message ... "Robert Morein" wrote in message news To those of you in aus.hi-fi who are concerned about the above crossposting: The offending individual is Brian L. McCarty, a pest on rec.audio.marketplace, where he accuses innocent sellers of various misdeeds. And you are NOT a cross poster??? You have my word I will delete au in any thread created by McCarty. |
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"Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... "RAO WHITEPAPER TEAM" wrote in message "Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... " wrote in message What's your take on the idea that amps are responsible for imaging? Everybody with a brain knows that recordings and speakers are primarily responsible for imaging. Most perceptions that an amp affects imaging are based on: (1) A really bad amp. While recordings and speakers are primarily responsible for imaging, it is incorrect to leave out the effect of the amplifier. Of course. What's unclear about my statement that a really bad amp can trash imaging? Quite clear, but insufficiently inclusive to be correct. It is apparent to a many of us that many so called "properly operating amplifiers" do not sound the same. The use of the apparent is appropriate here because it includes the effects of illusions. Many listeners believe that some amplifiers provide more information, ie., a data stream with greater entropy, than other amplifiers which apparently satisfy on the test bench. Just because so many people thought that the world was flat 100's of years ago, doesn't make it so. Information theory didn't exist then. It does now. Unlike sounds used to test localization, such as artificial transients, handclaps, test tones, etc., the experience of listening to music consists of a sequence of events. Tests with music show that a good amp has zero reliably perceptible effect on imaging. What percentage of available music did you conduct these tests with? Let me guess: 0.00000000001%, with a little bit of extrapolation. |
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"Robert Morein" wrote in message
"Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... Tests with music show that a good amp has zero reliably perceptible effect on imaging. What percentage of available music did you conduct these tests with? Let me guess: 0.00000000001%, with a little bit of extrapolation. Robert, would you care to comment on what fraction of available light has been used to conduct tests of the speed of light with? ;-) |
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"Robert Morein" wrote The transmission of a signal through an amplifier, since it is an analog process, includes a reduction of what Information Theorists refer to as Symbol Rate. This is an interesting post. The only problem I have with it is that many reports of superior imaging come from users of vacuum tube equipment, and even SET equipment. All amplifiers are dogs with different fleas. Ultimately, the perceived palatability (fidelity) by the listener will be a compilation of all the electronic components from the source material to the speaker's traducers. Note that in high end reviews of solid state or vacuum tube equipment the qualities describing the equipment’s sound cannot be differentiated. That is to say that no common sound attribute is exclusive to one design or another (SS/tube). So the author(s) of the post leave out an interesting possibility: that by manipulating the presentation, the soundstage can become more palpable. Well, yes and no . |
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"Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... "Robert Morein" wrote in message "Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... Tests with music show that a good amp has zero reliably perceptible effect on imaging. What percentage of available music did you conduct these tests with? Let me guess: 0.00000000001%, with a little bit of extrapolation. Robert, would you care to comment on what fraction of available light has been used to conduct tests of the speed of light with? ;-) True scientists always temper their description of "physical law" with "wherever observed". It is contrary to the precepts of modern scientific thought for a "physical law" to have universal scope. Many tests have been made of the speed of light, but the recent possibility that noncausal events can occur in the universe mean that "c" may not be the exact limit of the speed of light. Therefore, scientists are far less confident of the speed of light than you are of the irrelevance of amplifier quality to imaging. But, of course, you've done far more work in that area than physicists have with the speed of light. |
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"Robert Morein" wrote in message
"Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... "Robert Morein" wrote in message "Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... Tests with music show that a good amp has zero reliably perceptible effect on imaging. What percentage of available music did you conduct these tests with? Let me guess: 0.00000000001%, with a little bit of extrapolation. Robert, would you care to comment on what fraction of available light has been used to conduct tests of the speed of light with? ;-) True scientists always temper their description of "physical law" with "wherever observed". It is contrary to the precepts of modern scientific thought for a "physical law" to have universal scope. Many tests have been made of the speed of light, but the recent possibility that noncausal events can occur in the universe mean that "c" may not be the exact limit of the speed of light. Therefore, scientists are far less confident of the speed of light than you are of the irrelevance of amplifier quality to imaging. How do you know that without reading my mind, Robert? Robert's delusions that he has reliable mind reading abilities have been noted here many times. But, of course, you've done far more work in that area than physicists have with the speed of light. ??????????? |
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"Robert Morein" wrote in message ... "Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... "RAO WHITEPAPER TEAM" wrote in message "Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... " wrote in message What's your take on the idea that amps are responsible for imaging? Everybody with a brain knows that recordings and speakers are primarily responsible for imaging. Most perceptions that an amp affects imaging are based on: (1) A really bad amp. While recordings and speakers are primarily responsible for imaging, it is incorrect to leave out the effect of the amplifier. Of course. What's unclear about my statement that a really bad amp can trash imaging? Quite clear, but insufficiently inclusive to be correct. It is apparent to a many of us that many so called "properly operating amplifiers" do not sound the same. The use of the apparent is appropriate here because it includes the effects of illusions. Many listeners believe that some amplifiers provide more information, ie., a data stream with greater entropy, than other amplifiers which apparently satisfy on the test bench. Just because so many people thought that the world was flat 100's of years ago, doesn't make it so. Information theory didn't exist then. It does now. Unlike sounds used to test localization, such as artificial transients, handclaps, test tones, etc., the experience of listening to music consists of a sequence of events. Tests with music show that a good amp has zero reliably perceptible effect on imaging. What percentage of available music did you conduct these tests with? Let me guess: 0.00000000001%, with a little bit of extrapolation. If you have some bit of music that helps prove your theory that properly functioning amps have something to do with imaging, please, offer it up. |
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"Robert Morein" wrote in message ... "Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... "Robert Morein" wrote in message "Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... Tests with music show that a good amp has zero reliably perceptible effect on imaging. What percentage of available music did you conduct these tests with? Let me guess: 0.00000000001%, with a little bit of extrapolation. Robert, would you care to comment on what fraction of available light has been used to conduct tests of the speed of light with? ;-) True scientists always temper their description of "physical law" with "wherever observed". It is contrary to the precepts of modern scientific thought for a "physical law" to have universal scope. Many tests have been made of the speed of light, but the recent possibility that noncausal events can occur in the universe mean that "c" may not be the exact limit of the speed of light. Therefore, scientists are far less confident of the speed of light than you are of the irrelevance of amplifier quality to imaging. But, of course, you've done far more work in that area than physicists have with the speed of light. Yet it's still 1000 times more than you have done. |
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"Clyde Slick" wrote in message ... " wrote in message link.net... "Robert Morein" wrote in message ... "RAO WHITEPAPER TEAM" wrote in message ... "Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... " wrote in message What's your take on the idea that amps are responsible for imaging? Everybody with a brain knows that recordings and speakers are primarily responsible for imaging. Most perceptions that an amp affects imaging are based on: (1) A really bad amp. While recordings and speakers are primarily responsible for imaging, it is incorrect to leave out the effect of the amplifier. [snip] The transmission of a signal through an amplifier, since it is an analog process, includes a reduction of what Information Theorists refer to as Symbol Rate. This is an interesting post. The only problem I have with it is that many reports of superior imaging come from users of vacuum tube equipment, and even SET equipment. So the author(s) of the post leave out an interesting possibility: that by manipulating the presentation, the soundstage can become more palpable. Thank you Tweedledum. You illiterate idiot. |
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"Clyde Slick" wrote in message ... " wrote in message link.net... "Robert Morein" wrote in message ... "RAO WHITEPAPER TEAM" wrote in message ... "Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... " wrote in message What's your take on the idea that amps are responsible for imaging? Everybody with a brain knows that recordings and speakers are primarily responsible for imaging. Most perceptions that an amp affects imaging are based on: (1) A really bad amp. While recordings and speakers are primarily responsible for imaging, it is incorrect to leave out the effect of the amplifier. [snip] The transmission of a signal through an amplifier, since it is an analog process, includes a reduction of what Information Theorists refer to as Symbol Rate. This is an interesting post. The only problem I have with it is that many reports of superior imaging come from users of vacuum tube equipment, and even SET equipment. So the author(s) of the post leave out an interesting possibility: that by manipulating the presentation, the soundstage can become more palpable. Thank you Tweedledum. You illiterate idiot. I'm sorry, I should have said Tweedledummer. |
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"RAO WHITEPAPER TEAM" wrote in message ... "Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... " wrote in message What's your take on the idea that amps are responsible for imaging? Everybody with a brain knows that recordings and speakers are primarily responsible for imaging. Most perceptions that an amp affects imaging are based on: (1) A really bad amp. While recordings and speakers are primarily responsible for imaging, it is incorrect to leave out the effect of the amplifier. It is apparent to a many of us that many so called "properly operating amplifiers" do not sound the same. Many listeners believe that some amplifiers provide more information, ie., a data stream with greater entropy, than other amplifiers which apparently satisfy on the test bench. Unlike sounds used to test localization, such as artificial transients, handclaps, test tones, etc., the experience of listening to music consists of a sequence of events. Some of these events consist of a complex juxtaposition in time, and space, of sounds necessary to reproduce a musical instrument. In a pyramidal way, the events of music, which at the simplest, consist of sound emitted and precisely modulated by a single musical instrument, are conjoined to provide a mental experience that encompasses the mood and alertness of the listener. At any instant, the focus of the listener can be either outward, anticipating an event, or inwards, in reaction and contemplation. The transmission of a signal through an amplifier, since it is an analog process, includes a reduction of what Information Theorists refer to as Symbol Rate. If enough amplifiers were concatenated in series, the result would be white noise. But even one amplifier has this effect, to a small, but inevitably noticeably degree. Listeners to music are made aware of the shape and extent of the soundstage by complex mental analysis of the entirety of the experience. They are frequently convinced that some amplifiers provide a larger soundstage, or greater localization, than others. Would their claims be consonant with experiments performed with simple test tones and impulsive sounds? This is an irrelevant question, because the human mind is the ultimate arbiter of the richness of the experience. When the listener sees in his mind a soundstage of ultimate clarity, it is because the reproduction chain has provided the necessary information to construct it. Because it is a mental experience, the current state of science can neither dispute nor confirm this, but only note that some amplifiers provide this more abundantly than others. Unfortunately, rec.audio.opinion has recently been under an asssault by some individuals who, for reasons unknown, are an adulterative influence on hifi as a hobby and a pleasure. We post these mini "white papers" in order to provide you, the listener, with a firm foundation for a wise choice. It seems that your white paper differs from the others I've seen in that it completely bereft of any hard data, and in typical subjectivist style, relies heavily on trying to baffle with bull****. Indeed this thing reads like somebody just themelves a Thesaurus. Our current opinion is that your faculties of choice will be most acute if you listen to components while actually able to see them, in a place of your choice and convenience. Since that is the worst possible, least reliable way to hear any real differences, I'm not surprised, you'd recomend it. Level matching is not important. Especially if you don't care about getting the most reliable information. What is important is the ability to easily vary the volume control so that the optimum listening level is reached for each component. You are also likely to find that a particular amplifier or speaker works best with a particular recorded work. When you wish upon a star.... You may find little green Martians under your bed if you conly believe hard enough. It is for these reasons that we discourage attempts at "blind testing", which may also use switching devices of doubtful transparency. THE RAO WHITEPAPER TEAM Geez Robert, who do you think youmight have fooled? |
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Krueger" wrote: Robert, would you care to comment on what fraction of available light has been used to conduct tests of the speed of light with? ;-) As you have pointed out previously, Mr. Krueger, had my poor son Bob decided to embark on a career actually working as an audio engineer, he probably would have something valuable to offer. However as an individual that has essentially failed as a productive member of society, he can only snap at the heels of those like yourself that have actually accomplished something in their lives. "I don't really have a replacement career," Morein said. "It's a very gnawing thing." Think about it. . . My one and only son has lived in the same room, in the same house, in MY house, since the early 1950's. He's never had a job. NEVER. He always impressed everyone as a "smart guy", although I know now he's just a bull**** artist. SURE he's "smart" - he went to college for almost 20 years on my dime! His room is filled with electronics, computers, wires, empty beer cans, and all nature of trash. He rarely leaves the house, but spends hours in the basement "inventing". Do you know how many times we've had police, FBI, Secret Service, and other investigators here? They won't charge him because he's mentally ill. $100,000 to the first person that can get this 53 year old into a job, any job, and out of my house. Sylvan Morein, DDS PROVEN PUBLISHED FACTS about my Son, Robert Morein -- Robert Morein History -- http://www.ledger-enquirer.com/mld/l...ws/4853918.htm Doctoral student takes intellectual property case to Supreme Court By L. STUART DITZEN Philadelphia Inquirer PHILADELPHIA -Even the professors who dismissed him from a doctoral program at Drexel University agreed that Robert Morein was uncommonly smart. They apparently didn't realize that he was uncommonly stubborn too - so much so that he would mount a court fight all the way to the U.S. Supreme Court to challenge his dismissal. The Supremes have already rejected this appeal, btw. "It's a personality trait I have - I'm a tenacious guy," said Morein, a pleasantly eccentric man regarded by friends as an inventive genius. "And we do come to a larger issue here." An "inventive genius" that has never invented anything. And hardly "pleasantly" eccentric. A five-year legal battle between this unusual ex-student and one of Philadelphia's premier educational institutions has gone largely unnoticed by the media and the public. Because no one gives a **** about a 50 year old loser. But it has been the subject of much attention in academia. Drexel says it dismissed Morein in 1995 because he failed, after eight years, to complete a thesis required for a doctorate in electrical and computer engineering. Not to mention the 12 years it took him to get thru high school! BWAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Morein, 50, of Dresher, Pa., contends that he was dismissed only after his thesis adviser "appropriated" an innovative idea Morein had developed in a rarefied area of thought called "estimation theory" and arranged to have it patented. A contention rejected by three courts. From a 50 YEAR OLD that has done NOTHING PRODUCTIVE with his life. In February 2000, Philadelphia Common Pleas Court Judge Esther R. Sylvester ruled that Morein's adviser indeed had taken his idea. An idea that was worth nothing, because it didn't work. Just like Robert Morein, who has never worked a day in his life. Sylvester held that Morein had been unjustly dismissed and she ordered Drexel to reinstate him or refund his tuition. Funnily enough, Drexel AGREED to reinstate Morein, who rejected the offer because he knew he was and IS a failed loser. Spending daddy's money to cover up his lack of productivity. That brought roars of protest from the lions of academia. There is a long tradition in America of noninterference by the courts in academic decisions. Backed by every major university in Pennsylvania and organizations representing thousands of others around the country, Drexel appealed to the state Superior Court. The appellate court, by a 2-1 vote, reversed Sylvester in June 2001 and restored the status quo. Morein was, once again, out at Drexel. And the time-honored axiom that courts ought to keep their noses out of academic affairs was reasserted. The state Supreme Court declined to review the case and, in an ordinary litigation, that would have been the end of it. But Morein, in a quixotic gesture that goes steeply against the odds, has asked the highest court in the land to give him a hearing. Daddy throws more money down the crapper. His attorney, Faye Riva Cohen, said the Supreme Court appeal is important even if it fails because it raises the issue of whether a university has a right to lay claim to a student's ideas - or intellectual property - without compensation. "Any time you are in a Ph.D. program, you are a serf, you are a slave," said Cohen. Morein "is concerned not only for himself. He feels that what happened to him is pretty common." It's called HIGHER EDUCATION, honey. The students aren't in charge, the UNIVERSITY and PROFESSORS are. Drexel's attorney, Neil J. Hamburg, called Morein's appeal - and his claim that his idea was stolen - "preposterous." "I will eat my shoe if the Supreme Court hears this case," declared Hamburg. "We're not even going to file a response. He is a brilliant guy, but his intelligence should be used for the advancement of society rather than pursuing self-destructive litigation." No **** sherlock. The litigation began in 1997, when Morein sued Drexel claiming that a committee of professors had dumped him after he accused his faculty adviser, Paul Kalata, of appropriating his idea. His concept was considered to have potential value for businesses in minutely measuring the internal functions of machines, industrial processes and electronic systems. The field of "estimation theory" is one in which scientists attempt to calculate what they cannot plainly observe, such as the inside workings of a nuclear plant or a computer. My estimation theory? There is NO brain at work inside the head of Robert Morein, only sawdust. Prior to Morein's dismissal, Drexel looked into his complaint against Kalata and concluded that the associate professor had done nothing wrong. Kalata, through a university lawyer, declined to comment. At a nonjury trial before Sylvester in 1999, Morein testified that Kalata in 1990 had posed a technical problem for him to study for his thesis. It related to estimation theory. Kalata, who did not appear at the trial, said in a 1998 deposition that a Cherry Hill company for which he was a paid consultant, K-Tron International, had asked him to develop an alternate estimation method for it. The company manufactures bulk material feeders and conveyors used in industrial processes. Morein testified that, after much study, he experienced "a flash of inspiration" and came up with a novel mathematical concept to address the problem Kalata had presented. Without his knowledge, Morein said, Kalata shared the idea with K-Tron. K-Tron then applied for a patent, listing Kalata and Morein as co-inventors. Morein said he agreed "under duress" to the arrangement, but felt "locked into a highly disadvantageous situation." As a result, he testified, he became alienated from Kalata. As events unfolded, Kalata signed over his interest in the patent to K-Tron. The company never capitalized on the technology and eventually allowed the patent to lapse. No one made any money from it. Because it was bogus. Even Kalata was mortified that he was a victim of this SCAMSTER, Robert Morein. In 1991, Morein went to the head of Drexel's electrical engineering department, accused Kalata of appropriating his intellectual property, and asked for a new faculty adviser. The staff at Drexel laughed wildly at the ignorance of Robert Morein. He didn't get one. Instead, a committee of four professors, including Kalata, was formed to oversee Morein's thesis work. Four years later, the committee dismissed him, saying he had failed to complete his thesis. So Morein ****s up his first couple years, gets new faculty advisers (a TEAM), and then ****s up again! Brilliant! Morein claimed that the committee intentionally had undermined him. Morein makes LOTS of claims that are nonsense. One look thru the usenet proves it. Judge Sylvester agreed. In her ruling, Sylvester wrote: "It is this court's opinion that the defendants were motivated by bad faith and ill will." So much for political machine judges. The U.S. Supreme Court receives 7,000 appeals a year and agrees to hear only about 100 of them. Hamburg, Drexel's attorney, is betting the high court will reject Morein's appeal out of hand because its focal point - concerning a student's right to intellectual property - was not central to the litigation in the Pennsylvania courts. Morein said he understands it's a long shot, but he feels he must pursue it. Failure. Look it up in Websters. You'll see a picture of Robert Morein. The poster boy for SCAMMING LOSERS. "I had to seek closure," he said. Without a doctorate, he said, he has been unable to pursue a career he had hoped would lead him into research on artificial intelligence. Who better to tell us about "artificial intelligence". BWAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! As it is, Morein lives at home with his father and makes a modest income from stock investments. He has written a film script that he is trying to make into a movie. And in the basement of his father's home he is working on an invention, an industrial pump so powerful it could cut steel with a bulletlike stream of water. FAILED STUDENT FAILED MOVIE MAKER FAILED SCREENWRITER FAILED INVESTOR FAILED DRIVER FAILED SON FAILED PARENTS FAILED INVENTOR FAILED PLAINTIFF FAILED HOMOSEXUAL FAILED HUMAN FAILED FAILED But none of it is what he had imagined for himself. "I don't really have a replacement career," Morein said. "It's a very gnawing thing." |
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"Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... "Robert Morein" wrote in message "Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... "Robert Morein" wrote in message "Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... Tests with music show that a good amp has zero reliably perceptible effect on imaging. What percentage of available music did you conduct these tests with? Let me guess: 0.00000000001%, with a little bit of extrapolation. Robert, would you care to comment on what fraction of available light has been used to conduct tests of the speed of light with? ;-) True scientists always temper their description of "physical law" with "wherever observed". It is contrary to the precepts of modern scientific thought for a "physical law" to have universal scope. Many tests have been made of the speed of light, but the recent possibility that noncausal events can occur in the universe mean that "c" may not be the exact limit of the speed of light. Therefore, scientists are far less confident of the speed of light than you are of the irrelevance of amplifier quality to imaging. How do you know that without reading my mind, Robert? Don't back up, Arny. RAO needs an inflexible, demagogue of objectivism. You were born to play that part. |
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"Sylvan Morein" wrote in message .com... Sorry, Aussie gents. The crosspost/forgery is one of yours, Brian L. McCarty. Regards from the states, Bob Morein |
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"Robert Morein" wrote Many tests have been made of the speed of light, but the recent possibility that noncausal events can occur in the universe mean that "c" may not be the exact limit of the speed of light. "noncausal events"... please define, if you can? After listening to a series of guest lectures on recent research findings in particle and astrophysics it is apparent how little we know about the cosmos. Old notions like F=MA explain very little about why. It looks like physics is settling in for a long period of uncertainty. Thoughts of a TOE are unlikely to be postulated in our life time without a new paradigm in thinking. Chaos and duality RULE, so to speak... just like ROA . |
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" wrote in message hlink.net... "RAO WHITEPAPER TEAM" wrote in message ... "Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... " wrote in message What's your take on the idea that amps are responsible for imaging? Everybody with a brain knows that recordings and speakers are primarily responsible for imaging. Most perceptions that an amp affects imaging are based on: (1) A really bad amp. While recordings and speakers are primarily responsible for imaging, it is incorrect to leave out the effect of the amplifier. It is apparent to a many of us that many so called "properly operating amplifiers" do not sound the same. Many listeners believe that some amplifiers provide more information, ie., a data stream with greater entropy, than other amplifiers which apparently satisfy on the test bench. Unlike sounds used to test localization, such as artificial transients, handclaps, test tones, etc., the experience of listening to music consists of a sequence of events. Some of these events consist of a complex juxtaposition in time, and space, of sounds necessary to reproduce a musical instrument. In a pyramidal way, the events of music, which at the simplest, consist of sound emitted and precisely modulated by a single musical instrument, are conjoined to provide a mental experience that encompasses the mood and alertness of the listener. At any instant, the focus of the listener can be either outward, anticipating an event, or inwards, in reaction and contemplation. The transmission of a signal through an amplifier, since it is an analog process, includes a reduction of what Information Theorists refer to as Symbol Rate. If enough amplifiers were concatenated in series, the result would be white noise. But even one amplifier has this effect, to a small, but inevitably noticeably degree. Listeners to music are made aware of the shape and extent of the soundstage by complex mental analysis of the entirety of the experience. They are frequently convinced that some amplifiers provide a larger soundstage, or greater localization, than others. Would their claims be consonant with experiments performed with simple test tones and impulsive sounds? This is an irrelevant question, because the human mind is the ultimate arbiter of the richness of the experience. When the listener sees in his mind a soundstage of ultimate clarity, it is because the reproduction chain has provided the necessary information to construct it. Because it is a mental experience, the current state of science can neither dispute nor confirm this, but only note that some amplifiers provide this more abundantly than others. Unfortunately, rec.audio.opinion has recently been under an asssault by some individuals who, for reasons unknown, are an adulterative influence on hifi as a hobby and a pleasure. We post these mini "white papers" in order to provide you, the listener, with a firm foundation for a wise choice. It seems that your white paper differs from the others I've seen in that it completely bereft of any hard data, and in typical subjectivist style, relies heavily on trying to baffle with bull****. Indeed this thing reads like somebody just themelves a Thesaurus. Our current opinion is that your faculties of choice will be most acute if you listen to components while actually able to see them, in a place of your choice and convenience. Since that is the worst possible, least reliable way to hear any real differences, I'm not surprised, you'd recomend it. Level matching is not important. Especially if you don't care about getting the most reliable information. What is important is the ability to easily vary the volume control so that the optimum listening level is reached for each component. You are also likely to find that a particular amplifier or speaker works best with a particular recorded work. When you wish upon a star.... You may find little green Martians under your bed if you conly believe hard enough. It is for these reasons that we discourage attempts at "blind testing", which may also use switching devices of doubtful transparency. THE RAO WHITEPAPER TEAM Geez Robert, who do you think youmight have fooled? I didn't fool anybody, Mikey. I speculate they could be members of the Philadelphia Audio Society. |
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"Robert Morein" wrote in message ... " wrote in message hlink.net... "RAO WHITEPAPER TEAM" wrote in message ... "Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... " wrote in message What's your take on the idea that amps are responsible for imaging? Everybody with a brain knows that recordings and speakers are primarily responsible for imaging. Most perceptions that an amp affects imaging are based on: (1) A really bad amp. While recordings and speakers are primarily responsible for imaging, it is incorrect to leave out the effect of the amplifier. It is apparent to a many of us that many so called "properly operating amplifiers" do not sound the same. Many listeners believe that some amplifiers provide more information, ie., a data stream with greater entropy, than other amplifiers which apparently satisfy on the test bench. Unlike sounds used to test localization, such as artificial transients, handclaps, test tones, etc., the experience of listening to music consists of a sequence of events. Some of these events consist of a complex juxtaposition in time, and space, of sounds necessary to reproduce a musical instrument. In a pyramidal way, the events of music, which at the simplest, consist of sound emitted and precisely modulated by a single musical instrument, are conjoined to provide a mental experience that encompasses the mood and alertness of the listener. At any instant, the focus of the listener can be either outward, anticipating an event, or inwards, in reaction and contemplation. The transmission of a signal through an amplifier, since it is an analog process, includes a reduction of what Information Theorists refer to as Symbol Rate. If enough amplifiers were concatenated in series, the result would be white noise. But even one amplifier has this effect, to a small, but inevitably noticeably degree. Listeners to music are made aware of the shape and extent of the soundstage by complex mental analysis of the entirety of the experience. They are frequently convinced that some amplifiers provide a larger soundstage, or greater localization, than others. Would their claims be consonant with experiments performed with simple test tones and impulsive sounds? This is an irrelevant question, because the human mind is the ultimate arbiter of the richness of the experience. When the listener sees in his mind a soundstage of ultimate clarity, it is because the reproduction chain has provided the necessary information to construct it. Because it is a mental experience, the current state of science can neither dispute nor confirm this, but only note that some amplifiers provide this more abundantly than others. Unfortunately, rec.audio.opinion has recently been under an asssault by some individuals who, for reasons unknown, are an adulterative influence on hifi as a hobby and a pleasure. We post these mini "white papers" in order to provide you, the listener, with a firm foundation for a wise choice. It seems that your white paper differs from the others I've seen in that it completely bereft of any hard data, and in typical subjectivist style, relies heavily on trying to baffle with bull****. Indeed this thing reads like somebody just themelves a Thesaurus. Our current opinion is that your faculties of choice will be most acute if you listen to components while actually able to see them, in a place of your choice and convenience. Since that is the worst possible, least reliable way to hear any real differences, I'm not surprised, you'd recomend it. Level matching is not important. Especially if you don't care about getting the most reliable information. What is important is the ability to easily vary the volume control so that the optimum listening level is reached for each component. You are also likely to find that a particular amplifier or speaker works best with a particular recorded work. When you wish upon a star.... You may find little green Martians under your bed if you conly believe hard enough. It is for these reasons that we discourage attempts at "blind testing", which may also use switching devices of doubtful transparency. THE RAO WHITEPAPER TEAM Geez Robert, who do you think youmight have fooled? I didn't fool anybody, Mikey. That's for sure. I speculate they could be members of the Philadelphia Audio Society. Did some one just give them a thesaurus? |
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"Robert Morein" wrote Many tests have been made of the speed of light, but the recent possibility that noncausal events can occur in the universe mean that "c" may not be the exact limit of the speed of light. "noncausal events"... please define, if you can? After listening to a series of guest lectures on recent research findings in particle and astrophysics it is apparent how little we know about the cosmos. Did somebody already pretend to know "a lot" about it ? Old notions like F=MA explain very little about why. It looks like physics is settling in for a long period of uncertainty. Thoughts of a TOE are unlikely to be postulated in our life time without a new paradigm in thinking. Chaos and duality RULE, so to speak... just like ROA . Our most advanced theories are just explaining and describing the micro and macro events we observate, they are just kind of intellectual pictures providing us with a (ponctually) satisfying resolution. We should never forget that they nearly don't explain anything. |
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"Lionel" wrote in message ... Powell a écrit : "Robert Morein" wrote Many tests have been made of the speed of light, but the recent possibility that noncausal events can occur in the universe mean that "c" may not be the exact limit of the speed of light. "noncausal events"... please define, if you can? After listening to a series of guest lectures on recent research findings in particle and astrophysics it is apparent how little we know about the cosmos. Did somebody already pretend to know "a lot" about it ? Old notions like F=MA explain very little about why. It looks like physics is settling in for a long period of uncertainty. Thoughts of a TOE are unlikely to be postulated in our life time without a new paradigm in thinking. Chaos and duality RULE, so to speak... just like ROA . Our most advanced theories are just explaining and describing the micro and macro events we observate, they are just kind of intellectual pictures providing us with a (ponctually) satisfying resolution. We should never forget that they nearly don't explain anything. True, and very sophisticated! |
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Robert Morein *IS* a worthless stalker asshole with no career
As he told the newspaper when they interviewed him, none of it is what he had imagined for himself. "I don't really have a replacement career," Morein said. "It's a very gnawing thing." Think about it. . . My one and only son has lived in the same room, in the same house, in MY house, since the early 1950's. He's never had a job. NEVER. He always impressed everyone as a "smart guy", although I know now he's just a bull**** artist. SURE he's "smart" - he went to college for almost 20 years on my dime! His room is filled with electronics, computers, wires, empty beer cans, and all nature of trash. He rarely leaves the house, but spends hours in the basement "inventing". Do you know how many times we've had police, FBI, Secret Service, and other investigators here? They won't charge him because he's mentally ill. $100,000 to the first person that can get this 53 year old into a job, any job, and out of my house. Sylvan Morein, DDS PROVEN PUBLISHED FACTS about my Son, Robert Morein -- Robert Morein History -- http://www.ledger-enquirer.com/mld/l...ws/4853918.htm Doctoral student takes intellectual property case to Supreme Court By L. STUART DITZEN Philadelphia Inquirer PHILADELPHIA -Even the professors who dismissed him from a doctoral program at Drexel University agreed that Robert Morein was uncommonly smart. They apparently didn't realize that he was uncommonly stubborn too - so much so that he would mount a court fight all the way to the U.S. Supreme Court to challenge his dismissal. The Supremes have already rejected this appeal, btw. "It's a personality trait I have - I'm a tenacious guy," said Morein, a pleasantly eccentric man regarded by friends as an inventive genius. "And we do come to a larger issue here." An "inventive genius" that has never invented anything. And hardly "pleasantly" eccentric. A five-year legal battle between this unusual ex-student and one of Philadelphia's premier educational institutions has gone largely unnoticed by the media and the public. Because no one gives a **** about a 50 year old loser. But it has been the subject of much attention in academia. Drexel says it dismissed Morein in 1995 because he failed, after eight years, to complete a thesis required for a doctorate in electrical and computer engineering. Not to mention the 12 years it took him to get thru high school! BWAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Morein, 50, of Dresher, Pa., contends that he was dismissed only after his thesis adviser "appropriated" an innovative idea Morein had developed in a rarefied area of thought called "estimation theory" and arranged to have it patented. A contention rejected by three courts. From a 50 YEAR OLD that has done NOTHING PRODUCTIVE with his life. In February 2000, Philadelphia Common Pleas Court Judge Esther R. Sylvester ruled that Morein's adviser indeed had taken his idea. An idea that was worth nothing, because it didn't work. Just like Robert Morein, who has never worked a day in his life. Sylvester held that Morein had been unjustly dismissed and she ordered Drexel to reinstate him or refund his tuition. Funnily enough, Drexel AGREED to reinstate Morein, who rejected the offer because he knew he was and IS a failed loser. Spending daddy's money to cover up his lack of productivity. That brought roars of protest from the lions of academia. There is a long tradition in America of noninterference by the courts in academic decisions. Backed by every major university in Pennsylvania and organizations representing thousands of others around the country, Drexel appealed to the state Superior Court. The appellate court, by a 2-1 vote, reversed Sylvester in June 2001 and restored the status quo. Morein was, once again, out at Drexel. And the time-honored axiom that courts ought to keep their noses out of academic affairs was reasserted. The state Supreme Court declined to review the case and, in an ordinary litigation, that would have been the end of it. But Morein, in a quixotic gesture that goes steeply against the odds, has asked the highest court in the land to give him a hearing. Daddy throws more money down the crapper. His attorney, Faye Riva Cohen, said the Supreme Court appeal is important even if it fails because it raises the issue of whether a university has a right to lay claim to a student's ideas - or intellectual property - without compensation. "Any time you are in a Ph.D. program, you are a serf, you are a slave," said Cohen. Morein "is concerned not only for himself. He feels that what happened to him is pretty common." It's called HIGHER EDUCATION, honey. The students aren't in charge, the UNIVERSITY and PROFESSORS are. Drexel's attorney, Neil J. Hamburg, called Morein's appeal - and his claim that his idea was stolen - "preposterous." "I will eat my shoe if the Supreme Court hears this case," declared Hamburg. "We're not even going to file a response. He is a brilliant guy, but his intelligence should be used for the advancement of society rather than pursuing self-destructive litigation." No **** sherlock. The litigation began in 1997, when Morein sued Drexel claiming that a committee of professors had dumped him after he accused his faculty adviser, Paul Kalata, of appropriating his idea. His concept was considered to have potential value for businesses in minutely measuring the internal functions of machines, industrial processes and electronic systems. The field of "estimation theory" is one in which scientists attempt to calculate what they cannot plainly observe, such as the inside workings of a nuclear plant or a computer. My estimation theory? There is NO brain at work inside the head of Robert Morein, only sawdust. Prior to Morein's dismissal, Drexel looked into his complaint against Kalata and concluded that the associate professor had done nothing wrong. Kalata, through a university lawyer, declined to comment. At a nonjury trial before Sylvester in 1999, Morein testified that Kalata in 1990 had posed a technical problem for him to study for his thesis. It related to estimation theory. Kalata, who did not appear at the trial, said in a 1998 deposition that a Cherry Hill company for which he was a paid consultant, K-Tron International, had asked him to develop an alternate estimation method for it. The company manufactures bulk material feeders and conveyors used in industrial processes. Morein testified that, after much study, he experienced "a flash of inspiration" and came up with a novel mathematical concept to address the problem Kalata had presented. Without his knowledge, Morein said, Kalata shared the idea with K-Tron. K-Tron then applied for a patent, listing Kalata and Morein as co-inventors. Morein said he agreed "under duress" to the arrangement, but felt "locked into a highly disadvantageous situation." As a result, he testified, he became alienated from Kalata. As events unfolded, Kalata signed over his interest in the patent to K-Tron. The company never capitalized on the technology and eventually allowed the patent to lapse. No one made any money from it. Because it was bogus. Even Kalata was mortified that he was a victim of this SCAMSTER, Robert Morein. In 1991, Morein went to the head of Drexel's electrical engineering department, accused Kalata of appropriating his intellectual property, and asked for a new faculty adviser. The staff at Drexel laughed wildly at the ignorance of Robert Morein. He didn't get one. Instead, a committee of four professors, including Kalata, was formed to oversee Morein's thesis work. Four years later, the committee dismissed him, saying he had failed to complete his thesis. So Morein ****s up his first couple years, gets new faculty advisers (a TEAM), and then ****s up again! Brilliant! Morein claimed that the committee intentionally had undermined him. Morein makes LOTS of claims that are nonsense. One look thru the usenet proves it. Judge Sylvester agreed. In her ruling, Sylvester wrote: "It is this court's opinion that the defendants were motivated by bad faith and ill will." So much for political machine judges. The U.S. Supreme Court receives 7,000 appeals a year and agrees to hear only about 100 of them. Hamburg, Drexel's attorney, is betting the high court will reject Morein's appeal out of hand because its focal point - concerning a student's right to intellectual property - was not central to the litigation in the Pennsylvania courts. Morein said he understands it's a long shot, but he feels he must pursue it. Failure. Look it up in Websters. You'll see a picture of Robert Morein. The poster boy for SCAMMING LOSERS. "I had to seek closure," he said. Without a doctorate, he said, he has been unable to pursue a career he had hoped would lead him into research on artificial intelligence. Who better to tell us about "artificial intelligence". BWAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! As it is, Morein lives at home with his father and makes a modest income from stock investments. He has written a film script that he is trying to make into a movie. And in the basement of his father's home he is working on an invention, an industrial pump so powerful it could cut steel with a bulletlike stream of water. FAILED STUDENT FAILED MOVIE MAKER FAILED SCREENWRITER FAILED INVESTOR FAILED DRIVER FAILED SON FAILED PARENTS FAILED INVENTOR FAILED PLAINTIFF FAILED HOMOSEXUAL FAILED HUMAN FAILED FAILED But none of it is what he had imagined for himself. "I don't really have a replacement career," Morein said. "It's a very gnawing thing." |
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WTF? Note: rec.audio.opinion is one of the scant newsgroups I've seen which rivals RMB for dysfunctional squabbling. Fidelity nuts are a persnickety, fussy bunch by definition, and if you put a bunch of them in a room together...kapow. |
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RAO WHITEPAPER TEAM wrote: -- http://www.ledger-enquirer.com/mld/l...ws/4853918.htm Hmm. Anybody else click on the link? All I got was: The requested article was not found. |
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"Francie" wrote in message oups.com... RAO WHITEPAPER TEAM wrote: -- http://www.ledger-enquirer.com/mld/l...ws/4853918.htm Hmm. Anybody else click on the link? All I got was: The requested article was not found. A person by the name of Brian L. McCarty is forging posts in my name. This man is an Internet con artist, who used my name without my permission on one of his websites. He also posts to rec.audio.marketplace as "OFFICIAL RAM BLUEBOOK VALUATION". He appears to be a pathological liar, with unknown motivations. I am sorry that you guys in the music groups are getting this. McCarty is annoyed that I played a major role in exposing his attempted Internet scams. He wishes to embarass me into ceasing to publish the following notice. Att: Brian L. McCarty: Brian, as I told you, it doesn't matter what you do. The notices will continue indefinitely. There is nothing you can do to stop them, even if you forge my name all over usenet. You used my name without my permission. I have full html copies of all your websites, with all your forgeries and fake frontmen. Brian, you are stuck with this the rest of your life. It doesn't matter if you make 1000 posts a day. You can try to frame me as gay, or a stalker, it doesn't matter. You are the one who has done wrong. And now you will pay for it in ignominy, for the rest of your life. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- McCarty is the owner of websites http://www.coralseastudios.com, and http://www.worldjazz.com, both of which have used fraudulent advertising in attempts to attract investors. Both have been unsuccessful. McCarty is an American expatriate, originally from the Chicago area, then LA where he worked as a sound mixer, currently living in Cairns Australia, where he manages the Baskin-Robbins ice cream franchise located at Shop G6, 59 The Esplanade Cairns QLD 4870 07 4051 4034 McCarty lives in the Coral Sands apartment complex at 65 Vasey Esplanade, Trinity beach, a bit north of metropolitan Cairns. Baskin-Robbins Australia may be contacted at . |
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On Mon, 7 Nov 2005 00:21:24 -0500, "Robert Morein"
wrote: I forgot to add that I also believe the following to be true about Queensland...although I have never actually travelled there. 1)Queensland is a very sparsely populated territory with few highways. 2) There is a chronic problem with smuggling, violent rural gangs, and scamming, a little like Nigeria. As always, available for telephone conversation, Bob Morein (215) 646-4894 I will not yell. |
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"Robert Morein" wrote in message ... On Mon, 7 Nov 2005 00:21:24 -0500, "Robert Morein" wrote: I forgot to add that I also believe the following to be true about Queensland...although I have never actually travelled there. Brian, your forgeries make no difference. In five years, you will be in exactly the same position you are today. There is nothing you can do. |
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On Tue, 8 Nov 2005 13:02:07 -0500, "Robert Morein"
wrote: "Robert Morein" wrote in message .. . On Mon, 7 Nov 2005 00:21:24 -0500, "Robert Morein" wrote: I forgot to add that I also believe the following to be true about Queensland...although I have never actually travelled there. Brian, your forgeries make no difference. In five years, you will be in exactly the same position you are today. There is nothing you can do. An erection of the penis occurs when engorgement of venous blood in two tubular structures at the bottom of the penis, the corpora cavernosa, results from a variety of stimuli. The corpus spongiosum is a single tubular structure located just above the corpora carvernonosa, and contains the male urethra, through which urine and semen pass during urination and ejaculation, respectively. This may also become slightly engorged with blood, but less so than the corpora cavernosa. Penile erection usually results from sexual stimulation and/or arousal, but can also occur by such causes as a full urinary bladder or spontaneously, most commonly during erotic or wet dreams. An erection results in swelling and enlargement of the penis or the swelling of the female counterpart to the penis, clitoris. Erection enables sexual intercourse and other sexual activities, though it is not essential for all sexual activities. In addition to sexual arousal, erection in males can be caused by mechanical stimulation, or by the pressure of the filled urinary bladder. Erections when waking up are common, most likely due to a full bladder. They sometimes already occur in infant boys, and in utero. Physiologically, an erection is achieved by two mechanisms that play together: increased inflow of blood into the vessels of erectile tissue, and decreased outflow. The vessel system involved is known as the corpara cavernosa and the corpus spongiosum. Muscles in the region relax, allowing more blood to enter these sponge-like tissues. Contraction of other muscles reduce the outflow. The enlarged structure then exerts pressures on the exit veins, further reducing the outflow. As blood flows in, the penis stiffens, its girth and length increases, and it rises to an angle that can vary from below horizontal to almost vertical. Certain conditions (e.g. diabetes mellitus) result in erectile dysfunction, a problem where penile erection is insufficient to achieve normal sexual intercourse. In recent years, several drugs have been developed for treatment of this condition. If present, the foreskin normally retracts and exposes the glans. The skin of the scrotum tightens, pulling the testicles in towards the base of the penis. Erection is caused by signals from the parasympathetic nervous system; it is countered by the sympathetic nervous system which is mainly responsible for the "fight-or-flight" response. This explains why under stressful conditions, an erection is often difficult or impossible to achieve, and sudden onset of stress can deprive one of erection. The sympathetic nervous system is also responsible for causing ejaculation, which explains why most males lose their erection after ejaculation. Erections may occur even after death, if the pressure within the penis increases for some reason, for example due to sinking fluids or the formation of gases of putrefaction. See death erection. The clitoris of females also contains erectile tissue and may become erect during sexual arousal; the erection of nipples, however, is not due to erectile tissue. |
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"Soundhaspriority" wrote in message
... As he told the newspaper when they interviewed him, none of it is what he had imagined for himself. snip rest of McCarty's ravings Bwian, when are you going to realise that we actually KNOW it is you making these silly posts? You post through buzzardnews, Bob posts through giganews. Don't you think we can tell the difference, you poor dumb bugger? Do an ET Bwian & 'Go Home'. Someone must miss you. We certainly won't. ruff |
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On Tue, 16 Sep 2008 19:31:04 +1000, roughplanet wrote:
"Soundhaspriority" wrote in message ... As he told the newspaper when they interviewed him, none of it is what he had imagined for himself. snip rest of McCarty's ravings Bwian, when are you going to realise that we actually KNOW it is you making these silly posts? You post through buzzardnews, Bob posts through giganews. One doesn't have to look at the headers to know that the venemous ravings are posted by a complete idiot. When I see such stupidity, I hit the 'killfile' command that's the end of it. Unfortunately, it is a form of a 'denial of service' attack against the real bob, but I really don't give a ****. |
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roughplanet wrote: "Soundhaspriority" wrote in message ... As he told the newspaper when they interviewed him, none of it is what he had imagined for himself. snip rest of McCarty's ravings Bwian, when are you going to realise that we actually KNOW it is you making these silly posts? You post through buzzardnews, Bob posts through giganews. Don't you think we can tell the difference, you poor dumb bugger? Do an ET Bwian & 'Go Home'. Someone must miss you. We certainly won't. Could posters to this thread at least please remove aapl-s from the groups. Graham |
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