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George M. Middius wrote:

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I am totally against capital punishment, I prefer eugenism...
...Prevention is better than cure. ;-)

That seems an historically untenable position for a Frenchman.



Is that an incest joke?


No.



We give up.


Think "eugenics" and "Nazi occupation," and it should come
clear.

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Nexus 6 wrote:



George M. Middius wrote:


Nexus 6 said:


I am totally against capital punishment, I prefer eugenism...
...Prevention is better than cure. ;-)


That seems an historically untenable position for a Frenchman.




Is that an incest joke?


No.




We give up.



Think "eugenics" and "Nazi occupation," and it should come clear.


I was as late as Middius on this one !
Anyway I have already answered. Too late or too soon for me, I am nearly
sure of my ancestors. To be frankly honest I should add for this period
only.
But my ancestors race is not a problem for me. For you ?

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Sockpuppet Yustabe said:

He should be treated similarly to how others in his position
have been treated.


You mean the position of having publicly called for harsh punishment
for those who do what he did?


No, that's not the way the law is supposed to work.
According to your logic, legalization advocates should
walk. Its obvious, you want him punished for his
views. You just about said it.


Yes I do. He espouses immoral and evil views. Plus he's a huge
hypocrite. I'll bet Limbaugh's "pinhead" brigade, or whatever they
call themselves, worship hypocrites.


Isn't it possible that Limbaugh's
yammering may have indirectly influenced the jail sentences inflicted
on other drug users?


No


Wrong. For the same reason that the anti-gay hatemongers who
hypocritically don clerical robes are not free of guilt for violence
against gay people.

He should be made an example of. He abused a position of influence,
albeit an ad-hoc one, in order to deflect attention away from his own
bad behavior.


Hehe, sound like a description of Clinton, to me.


No. Clinton never preached against infidelity or blow jobs or whatever
you think he did "wrong".

("Don't bother me about Monica, it detracts from my running the country")


Why should you care about anybody else's sex life? Don't be a
hypocrite.

Anyway Rush developed his hard line attitude about drugs well before he got
hooked. He didn't do it for deflection,


Sez you. Guaranteed he's been using some drugs or other, probably to
excess, for many, many years.

Now the guy was in serious denial,
like all drug and alcohol abusers. Also, I have some empathy
for the situation in which he got hooked, using those
drugs to alleviate severe pain due to a medical condition.


Where is the condemnation of his hypocrisy?

I have seen someone close to me endure such pain, and ask to die.
So I can see where he would use those drugs for that purpose.
However, after a while, on vould easily get hooked.


Still waiting.....

Talk about lack of compassion in the right, I see as much
from the left.


I don't. Please enlighten us.

I would say the same thing, were it a liberal point man like
Al Franken or James Carvile in the hot seat.


Disagreed. They aren't rabble-rousers and hatemongers. In fact, it
wouldn't surprise me if Franken is on the record as supporting the
right side of the "drug issue".


They are, as much as Limburgh is, which is not much.
There is alot of blind intolerance on the left.


You mean intolerance of bigotry, hypocrisy, and outright Dubya-style
lying to the electorate? I think everybody should be intolerant of
behaviors like that. Do you have some cheap excuses for Bush's (and
Cheney's and Powell's, et al) lying about the invasion of Iraq? How
about for the hate-mongering of Falwell and Robertson, et al?


You just don't see it. Actually, you tend towards exhibiting it yourself.
Now, I am not calling you a hate monger or rabble rouser,
but I think that you are, by your strongly held principals,
prone to detest individuals who hold different political opinions.


You mean like Krooger? Or Dickless? Or the Bug Eater? There are plenty
of reasons to "detest" those "people" that have little to do with
principles. (Assuming that's the word you meant.)

Do you want to be like Sanders, whose leftist beliefs prevent him
from maintaining a friendship with someone like me, who resides, but
moderately, on the other side of the road?


Sure. Where do I sign up?

BTW, I am:
pro choice (though I don't particularly like abortions, making them illegal
is just not workable, nor is it correct)


Good for you.

pro drug legalization


Good on this one too.

in favor of programs that will truly help the working poor and
those not able to work (such as accountability in schools, vouchers only
where schools are failing, no or low interest loans for small
businesses and housing, subsidized day care)
pro legalization of prostitiution
pro condoms for teenagers


All very good. Shows you're not consumed by your blind spots.


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George M. Middius wrote:


Nexus 6 said:


I am totally against capital punishment, I prefer eugenism...
...Prevention is better than cure. ;-)

That seems an historically untenable position for a Frenchman.


Is that an incest joke?


No.



Wait, I think I have it -- it's an abortion comment, right?


No.



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George M. Middius wrote:


George M. Middius said:


No.


We give up.



A Nazi crack, then?


Yup, and a weak one at that.

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Equally, Limbaugh, a staunch proponent of jail time for
addicts, will not be charged, thanks to Jebbie.



He should be treated similarly to how others in his position
have been treated. Ususally, addicts voluntarily going
in for treatment are not prosecuted for the previous crimes
of having purvhased and possesed those drugs. Possession
chrges usually are brought agaiinst those cought redhanded, posessing
drugs, or in the act of purchasing them.


True, and I don't actually disagree with you.

Given Limbaugh's noxiousness on the issue, it would be
karmic perfection for him to be charged and convicted, even
if he didn't spend time in jail.


I am not condoning what he did, nor am I advocating any special
treatment, but what I do not want to see is prosecutors gettiing
over-vindictive afainst him because they disagree with his politics.


In Florida, that is beyond unlikely. His politics are well
received in that state.


I would say the same thing, were it a liberal point man like
Al Franken or James Carvile in the hot seat.


Again, we don't disagree. I just can't stand Rush Blowhard.

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Lionel wrote:

Nexus 6 wrote:



Lionel wrote:

Nexus 6 wrote:



Lionel wrote:


I am totally against capital punishment, I prefer eugenism...
...Prevention is better than cure. ;-)





That seems an historically untenable position for a Frenchman.

Nexus 6


You are right but I don't know any emoticon for :
"I'm sadly joking"




Ah.

Of course, just like every American over the age of twelve was at
Woodstock, every Frenchman alive in the 1940's was a member of the
resistance.


Just speaking about males, we can make the count like that :
- 250,000 killed during the "Drôle de guerre"
- 1,000,000 prisoners in Germany
- Like in all wars all around the world most males were father and try
to take care of their families trying to avoid the STO (Obligatory
Labour Service in Germany).
- Maximum 10% were in the resistance
- Minimum 10% were collaborating with nazism.

One of my Grand-Father have been wounded at "Chemin des dames" in 1917
(only one hand). In 1942 he was an alcoholic with 16 children when my
Grand-Mother died at 40 during her 17th childbirth.

My other Grand-Father was more lucky he was in Germany as POW and came
back home in 1945.

Is the above answers to your cliche ?


Cliche?

It was joke.

Relax.

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All very good. Shows you're not consumed by your blind spots.


You should add that you really don't care about anything of his enumeration.

I remember you what I have already said about you Middius :
You hate Dennis Prager just because he hates gays *but nothing else*.

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Sockpuppet Yustabe wrote:


You mean the position of having publicly called for harsh punishment
for those who do what he did?



No, that's not the way the law is supposed to work.
According to your logic, legalization advocates should
walk. Its obvious, you want him punished for his
views. You just about said it.


That isn't the way the law is supposed to work, but it would
be delicious to see him in prison stripes.



Isn't it possible that Limbaugh's
yammering may have indirectly influenced the jail sentences inflicted
on other drug users?



No


Yes.

He has been very influential in pushing a very hard
conservative line.

Remember the 1994 elections?



He should be made an example of. He abused a position of influence,
albeit an ad-hoc one, in order to deflect attention away from his own
bad behavior.



Hehe, sound like a description of Clinton, to me.
("Don't bother me about Monica, it detracts from my running the country")
Anyway Rush developed his hard line attitude about drugs well before he got
hooked. He didn't do it for deflection, Now the guy was in serious denial,
like all drug and alcohol abusers. Also, I have some empathy
for the situation in which he got hooked, using those
drugs to alleviate severe pain due to a medical condition.
I have seen someone close to me endure such pain, and ask to die.
So I can see where he would use those drugs for that purpose.
However, after a while, on vould easily get hooked.


There is also an issue of trafficking, and possession.


Talk about lack of compassion in the right, I see as much
from the left.It sickens me, and it is a mjor reason I no longer
adhere to the program.


it cuts both ways. Most on the left don't have big time
radio exposure.


Disagreed. They aren't rabble-rousers and hatemongers. In fact, it
wouldn't surprise me if Franken is on the record as supporting the
right side of the "drug issue".



They are, as much as Limburgh is, which is not much.


I disagree strongly with this comment.

There is alot of blind intolerance on the left.


True.

Just as useless as that coming from the right.


BTW, I am:
pro choice (though I don't particularly like abortions, making them illegal
is just not workable, nor is it correct)
pro drug legalization
in favor of programs that will truly help the working poor and
those not able to work (such as accountability in schools, vouchers only
where schools are failing, no or low interest loans for small
businesses and housing, subsidized day care)
pro legalization of prostitiution
pro condoms for teenagers
etc.


"Progessive," perhaps?

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Like, which ones, besides, of course, Vegas casinos?

Enron, Worldcom, etc.

Organized, and criminal in the extreme.

Make the Mob look like ****ing amateurs.



And the bosses will all be going to jail, except maybe Terry McCauliffe.


You must be kidding.

Enron's best friend is running the big show in that big
white house.



Lieberman?


Resident Shrub.

Be serious for just ten seconds.



None of them indicted, and none to see prison.


Yet.


Ever.

Count on it.


McAuliffe, for what it is worth, learned his tricks from the
legacy set by folks like Lee A****er.


Riiiiiiiiiiiiiigghhht!


it is absolutely true. A****er set the standard by which
modern political operatives behave. This doesn't make
McAuliffe a good guy - he's just as much a apart of the
problem as the Bush coterie.


Equally, Limbaugh, a staunch proponent of jail time for
addicts, will not be charged, thanks to Jebbie.

Nexus 6



When has Rush Limbaugh ever said people who become accidentally addicted to
prescrition pain killers should go to jail?


"Accidentally addicted?"

You think heroin addicts did it intentionally?

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Lionel wrote:

Nexus 6 wrote:



George M. Middius wrote:


Nexus 6 said:


I am totally against capital punishment, I prefer eugenism...
...Prevention is better than cure. ;-)



That seems an historically untenable position for a Frenchman.




Is that an incest joke?



No.




We give up.




Think "eugenics" and "Nazi occupation," and it should come clear.


I was as late as Middius on this one !
Anyway I have already answered. Too late or too soon for me, I am nearly
sure of my ancestors. To be frankly honest I should add for this period
only.
But my ancestors race is not a problem for me. For you ?


I haven't a clue what race your ancestors are, nor do I care
in the least.

You missed a poor joke, nothing more.

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Is the above answers to your cliche ?



Cliche?

It was joke.

Relax.

Nexus 6


Ok but a little bit hard to understand. Middius also glued to it. ;-)
I'm relax now.

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"George M. Middius" wrote in message
...


Sockpuppet Yustabe said:

He should be treated similarly to how others in his position
have been treated.

You mean the position of having publicly called for harsh punishment
for those who do what he did?


No, that's not the way the law is supposed to work.
According to your logic, legalization advocates should
walk. Its obvious, you want him punished for his
views. You just about said it.


Yes I do. He espouses immoral and evil views. Plus he's a huge
hypocrite. I'll bet Limbaugh's "pinhead" brigade, or whatever they
call themselves, worship hypocrites.



Newspeak. Espousing morality is now immoral.

They call themselves ditto heads.
I'll admit to being an apostrophe head.

Some of the callers are pretty darn stupid. I catch the show
at noon.


Isn't it possible that Limbaugh's
yammering may have indirectly influenced the jail sentences inflicted
on other drug users?


No


Wrong. For the same reason that the anti-gay hatemongers who
hypocritically don clerical robes are not free of guilt for violence
against gay people.


If they actually committed it.
Otherwise we should have hung Jerry Rubin for acts
committed by memebrs of the Weather Underground, SLA, etc.


He should be made an example of. He abused a position of influence,
albeit an ad-hoc one, in order to deflect attention away from his own
bad behavior.


Hehe, sound like a description of Clinton, to me.


No. Clinton never preached against infidelity or blow jobs or whatever
you think he did "wrong".


T'was lyoing under oath.
A few posts ago in another thread you drooled at the
prospect that Arny might do the same.

("Don't bother me about Monica, it detracts from my running the

country")

Why should you care about anybody else's sex life? Don't be a
hypocrite.


He used his position to try and worm out of responsibility for
lyiing under oath. Hillary can beter mete out punishments
for his sexual transgressions than I could.

Anyway Rush developed his hard line attitude about drugs well before he

got
hooked. He didn't do it for deflection,


Sez you. Guaranteed he's been using some drugs or other, probably to
excess, for many, many years.


I haven't seen any evidence, nor have I even
heard such rumors.
BTW, I have much more sympathy
for Rush than I do for Bill Bennett.
That's a hypocrite!


Now the guy was in serious denial,
like all drug and alcohol abusers. Also, I have some empathy
for the situation in which he got hooked, using those
drugs to alleviate severe pain due to a medical condition.


Where is the condemnation of his hypocrisy?


I think he was not in his right mind at the time.
His major disappoint ment to me was his keeping it
secret for so long. But how could he tell us, when he kept denying
it to himself?

I have seen someone close to me endure such pain, and ask to die.
So I can see where he would use those drugs for that purpose.
However, after a while, on vould easily get hooked.


Still waiting.....

Talk about lack of compassion in the right, I see as much
from the left.


I don't. Please enlighten us.


I don't think it is possible to enlighten you in that regard.


I would say the same thing, were it a liberal point man like
Al Franken or James Carvile in the hot seat.

Disagreed. They aren't rabble-rousers and hatemongers. In fact, it
wouldn't surprise me if Franken is on the record as supporting the
right side of the "drug issue".


They are, as much as Limburgh is, which is not much.
There is alot of blind intolerance on the left.


You mean intolerance of bigotry, hypocrisy, and outright Dubya-style
lying to the electorate?


YES!

I think everybody should be intolerant of
behaviors like that. Do you have some cheap excuses for Bush's (and
Cheney's and Powell's, et al) lying about the invasion of Iraq?


I think that they told us what was told to them by
our intelligence agencies, who were suckered in
by a masterful bluff by Saddam. He got us to
believe he had the stuff, when he had already gotten rid of it.
The problem was, the bluff was intended to scare us away,
instead, it provided the impetus for us to march right in.

Remember, the whole thing was because he wouldn't
answer out questions.

How
about for the hate-mongering of Falwell and Robertson, et al?


I don't like the political behavior of the Fundamentalist Christian
movement. I find it counter to traditional American values.


You just don't see it. Actually, you tend towards exhibiting it

yourself.
Now, I am not calling you a hate monger or rabble rouser,
but I think that you are, by your strongly held principals,
prone to detest individuals who hold different political opinions.


You mean like Krooger? Or Dickless? Or the Bug Eater? There are plenty
of reasons to "detest" those "people" that have little to do with
principles. (Assuming that's the word you meant.)


I mean like you.

Do you want to be like Sanders, whose leftist beliefs prevent him
from maintaining a friendship with someone like me, who resides, but
moderately, on the other side of the road?


Sure. Where do I sign up?


You don't have to, you rebuffed my offer of friendship a long time ago.


BTW, I am:
pro choice (though I don't particularly like abortions, making them

illegal
is just not workable, nor is it correct)


Good for you.

pro drug legalization


Good on this one too.

in favor of programs that will truly help the working poor and
those not able to work (such as accountability in schools, vouchers only
where schools are failing, no or low interest loans for small
businesses and housing, subsidized day care)
pro legalization of prostitiution
pro condoms for teenagers


All very good. Shows you're not consumed by your blind spots.






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I haven't seen any evidence, nor have I even
heard such rumors.
BTW, I have much more sympathy
for Rush than I do for Bill Bennett.
That's a hypocrite!


The two are equally hypocritical.

Where are the differences in the two cases?


I think that they told us what was told to them by
our intelligence agencies, who were suckered in
by a masterful bluff by Saddam. He got us to
believe he had the stuff, when he had already gotten rid of it.
The problem was, the bluff was intended to scare us away,
instead, it provided the impetus for us to march right in.


This is implausible on its face.



Remember, the whole thing was because he wouldn't
answer out questions.


Not so. The questions were answered, the neocons didn't like
those answers.

This war was in the works prior to September 11, which, btw,
is a sorry excuse to have prosecuted it.

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Yes I do. He espouses immoral and evil views. Plus he's a huge
hypocrite. I'll bet Limbaugh's "pinhead" brigade, or whatever they
call themselves, worship hypocrites.


Newspeak. Espousing morality is now immoral.


Only a nitwit would say Limbaugh "espouses morality". He's vile and
contemptible, self-serving and short-sighted, bigoted and filled with
hate. He wants to use the government's power to interfere with
people's right to freedom of religion, speech, and assembly. He is in
favor of the proliferation of handguns and he has equated murdering
abortionists with executing criminals.

This is a seriously evil individual, and you can't tell him from a
bona-fide moralizer? For shame.


Wrong. For the same reason that the anti-gay hatemongers who
hypocritically don clerical robes are not free of guilt for violence
against gay people.


If they actually committed it.


No.

Otherwise we should have hung Jerry Rubin for acts
committed by memebrs of the Weather Underground, SLA, etc.


Excuse me, did Jerry Rubin have a nationally syndicated radio show?
Did he claim to be a moral leader along the lines of nationally
televised preachers?

That is a very bad comparison. Rubin was a political revolutionary. He
was not, like Bimbaugh and Falwell, true wolves in sheep's clothing.


No. Clinton never preached against infidelity or blow jobs or whatever
you think he did "wrong".


T'was lyoing under oath.


Excuse me?

A few posts ago in another thread you drooled at the
prospect that Arny might do the same.


Krooger? He might do what?


Why should you care about anybody else's sex life? Don't be a
hypocrite.


He used his position to try and worm out of responsibility for
lyiing under oath.


That's a twisted way of recounting events.

Hillary can beter mete out punishments
for his sexual transgressions than I could.


Now you're on the right track.

Anyway Rush developed his hard line attitude about drugs well before he got
hooked. He didn't do it for deflection,


Sez you. Guaranteed he's been using some drugs or other, probably to
excess, for many, many years.


I haven't seen any evidence, nor have I even
heard such rumors.


You just started a rumor. You said he was a blowhard before he became
an addict and a hypocrite. No evidence of that either, is there?

BTW, I have much more sympathy
for Rush than I do for Bill Bennett.
That's a hypocrite!


Yeah, he's a schmuck of the first order.

Where is the condemnation of his hypocrisy?


I think he was not in his right mind at the time.


Bull****. Why aren't you making excuses for Clinton's philandering?

His major disappoint ment to me was his keeping it
secret for so long. But how could he tell us, when he kept denying
it to himself?


Address his hypocrisy, not his addiction per se.

Talk about lack of compassion in the right, I see as much
from the left.


I don't. Please enlighten us.


I don't think it is possible to enlighten you in that regard.


That's practically an admission you're just blowing hot air.

There is alot of blind intolerance on the left.


You mean intolerance of bigotry, hypocrisy, and outright Dubya-style
lying to the electorate?


YES!


Shameful, isn't it?


Do you have some cheap excuses for Bush's (and
Cheney's and Powell's, et al) lying about the invasion of Iraq?


I think that they told us what was told to them by
our intelligence agencies, who were suckered in
by a masterful bluff by Saddam. He got us to
believe he had the stuff, when he had already gotten rid of it.
The problem was, the bluff was intended to scare us away,
instead, it provided the impetus for us to march right in.


This is all BS. There was a report on 60 Minutes last week that blows
your poor-Dubya-the-dupe theory to pieces. And before you start in
about "liberal media bias", the witnesses they interviewed were
genuine intelligence analysts employed by the government who are
greatly ashamed of the conduct of our leaders.

Remember, the whole thing was because he wouldn't
answer out questions.


What does that mean?


How
about for the hate-mongering of Falwell and Robertson, et al?


I don't like the political behavior of the Fundamentalist Christian
movement. I find it counter to traditional American values.


They contribute to violence against gay people.

Now, I am not calling you a hate monger or rabble rouser,
but I think that you are, by your strongly held principals,
prone to detest individuals who hold different political opinions.


You mean like Krooger? Or Dickless? Or the Bug Eater? There are plenty
of reasons to "detest" those "people" that have little to do with
principles. (Assuming that's the word you meant.)


I mean like you.


You said "individuals who hold different political opinions", fool.
Try to pay attention.

Do you want to be like Sanders, whose leftist beliefs prevent him
from maintaining a friendship with someone like me, who resides, but
moderately, on the other side of the road?


Sure. Where do I sign up?


You don't have to, you rebuffed my offer of friendship a long time ago.


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Sockpuppet Yustabe wrote:


I haven't seen any evidence, nor have I even
heard such rumors.
BTW, I have much more sympathy
for Rush than I do for Bill Bennett.
That's a hypocrite!


The two are equally hypocritical.

Where are the differences in the two cases?


Bill Bennett has those enormous lats from pulling the one-armed bandit...

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it cuts both ways. Most on the left don't have big time
radio exposure.


Disagreed. They aren't rabble-rousers and hatemongers. In fact, it
wouldn't surprise me if Franken is on the record as supporting the
right side of the "drug issue".



They are, as much as Limburgh is, which is not much.


I disagree strongly with this comment.

There is alot of blind intolerance on the left.


True.

Just as useless as that coming from the right.


BTW, I am:
pro choice (though I don't particularly like abortions, making them

illegal
is just not workable, nor is it correct)
pro drug legalization
in favor of programs that will truly help the working poor and
those not able to work (such as accountability in schools, vouchers only
where schools are failing, no or low interest loans for small
businesses and housing, subsidized day care)
pro legalization of prostitiution
pro condoms for teenagers
etc.


"Progessive," perhaps?


I always thought of myself as a progressive. I was once a progressive
liberal, now I am a progressive conservative.




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You think heroin addicts did it intentionally?


YES




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I haven't seen any evidence, nor have I even
heard such rumors.
BTW, I have much more sympathy
for Rush than I do for Bill Bennett.
That's a hypocrite!


The two are equally hypocritical.

Where are the differences in the two cases?


Limbaugh's regimen of excruciating back pain.




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Yes I do. He espouses immoral and evil views. Plus he's a huge
hypocrite. I'll bet Limbaugh's "pinhead" brigade, or whatever they
call themselves, worship hypocrites.


Newspeak. Espousing morality is now immoral.


Only a nitwit would say Limbaugh "espouses morality". He's vile and
contemptible, self-serving and short-sighted, bigoted and filled with
hate. He wants to use the government's power to interfere with
people's right to freedom of religion, speech, and assembly. He is in
favor of the proliferation of handguns and he has equated murdering
abortionists with executing criminals.


Some owuld say he is in favor of the people's Constitutional right to bear
arms, the right to life, and protection of the people's Constitutional
right's regarding property.
The coin has two sides.

I have never heard him say anything positive
about murdering abortionists, quite the opposite.

Personally, I think he is a blowhard, ruffles his papers too much, and hems
and
haws too much, and takes an hour to tell you what G. Gordon Liddy
will tell you in two minutes.



This is a seriously evil individual, and you can't tell him from a
bona-fide moralizer? For shame.


Wrong. For the same reason that the anti-gay hatemongers who
hypocritically don clerical robes are not free of guilt for violence
against gay people.


If they actually committed it.


No.

Otherwise we should have hung Jerry Rubin for acts
committed by memebrs of the Weather Underground, SLA, etc.


Excuse me, did Jerry Rubin have a nationally syndicated radio show?
Did he claim to be a moral leader along the lines of nationally
televised preachers?

That is a very bad comparison. Rubin was a political revolutionary. He
was not, like Bimbaugh and Falwell, true wolves in sheep's clothing.


He had lots of exposure.
Rush never told his audience to go out an kill gays.
If his pronouncements that gays are morally incorrect
motivated hate crimes, it is not his cross to bear.
What you are doing is like one of the bad things the
right does, blaming tv and movies for motivating criminals.



No. Clinton never preached against infidelity or blow jobs or whatever
you think he did "wrong".


T'was lyoing under oath.


Excuse me?


That's your problem


A few posts ago in another thread you drooled at the
prospect that Arny might do the same.


Krooger? He might do what?


Lie under oath


Why should you care about anybody else's sex life? Don't be a
hypocrite.


He used his position to try and worm out of responsibility for
lyiing under oath.


That's a twisted way of recounting events.

Hillary can beter mete out punishments
for his sexual transgressions than I could.


Now you're on the right track.

Anyway Rush developed his hard line attitude about drugs well before

he got
hooked. He didn't do it for deflection,


Sez you. Guaranteed he's been using some drugs or other, probably to
excess, for many, many years.


I haven't seen any evidence, nor have I even
heard such rumors.


You just started a rumor. You said he was a blowhard before he became
an addict and a hypocrite. No evidence of that either, is there?


Its an opinion. A lot of peolple thik he's a blowhard.


BTW, I have much more sympathy
for Rush than I do for Bill Bennett.
That's a hypocrite!


Yeah, he's a schmuck of the first order.

Where is the condemnation of his hypocrisy?


I think he was not in his right mind at the time.


Bull****. Why aren't you making excuses for Clinton's philandering?


Cause I don't care about it. It's the lying under oath.


His major disappoint ment to me was his keeping it
secret for so long. But how could he tell us, when he kept denying
it to himself?


Address his hypocrisy, not his addiction per se.


The hypocricy is not in his antidrug views, but is in the fact
that he became an addict. I have empathy for that, considering his
particular
situation regarding pain.

Talk about lack of compassion in the right, I see as much
from the left.


I don't. Please enlighten us.


I don't think it is possible to enlighten you in that regard.


That's practically an admission you're just blowing hot air.


No, its a realization that I can't do anything about your closed mind.

There is alot of blind intolerance on the left.

You mean intolerance of bigotry, hypocrisy, and outright Dubya-style
lying to the electorate?


YES!


Shameful, isn't it?


Do you have some cheap excuses for Bush's (and
Cheney's and Powell's, et al) lying about the invasion of Iraq?


I think that they told us what was told to them by
our intelligence agencies, who were suckered in
by a masterful bluff by Saddam. He got us to
believe he had the stuff, when he had already gotten rid of it.
The problem was, the bluff was intended to scare us away,
instead, it provided the impetus for us to march right in.


This is all BS. There was a report on 60 Minutes last week that blows
your poor-Dubya-the-dupe theory to pieces. And before you start in
about "liberal media bias", the witnesses they interviewed were
genuine intelligence analysts employed by the government who are
greatly ashamed of the conduct of our leaders.


60 minutes has mostly been 20 years of BS

Remember, the whole thing was because he wouldn't
answer out questions.


What does that mean?


He wouldn't answer our questions, about what he did with WMD he
previously admitted he possessed.

How
about for the hate-mongering of Falwell and Robertson, et al?


I don't like the political behavior of the Fundamentalist Christian
movement. I find it counter to traditional American values.


They contribute to violence against gay people.


No, they are just expressing their moral outrage over gay behavior.
Blame for violence against gays rests at the hands of the actual
perpetrators.




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Sockpuppet Yustabe said:

Only a nitwit would say Limbaugh "espouses morality". He's vile and
contemptible, self-serving and short-sighted, bigoted and filled with
hate. He wants to use the government's power to interfere with
people's right to freedom of religion, speech, and assembly. He is in
favor of the proliferation of handguns and he has equated murdering
abortionists with executing criminals.


Some owuld say he is in favor of the people's Constitutional right to bear
arms, the right to life, and protection of the people's Constitutional
right's regarding property.


They are the pinheads.

The coin has two sides.


Not.

I have never heard him say anything positive
about murdering abortionists, quite the opposite.


Check back a few years.

Personally, I think he is a blowhard, ruffles his papers too much, and hems and
haws too much, and takes an hour to tell you what G. Gordon Liddy
will tell you in two minutes.


But he's still got moral authority because he's in favor of handguns,
viciously bigoted against gay people, and against women's rights to
control their own bodies. Right?


This is a seriously evil individual, and you can't tell him from a
bona-fide moralizer? For shame.


No answer here?


Wrong. For the same reason that the anti-gay hatemongers who
hypocritically don clerical robes are not free of guilt for violence
against gay people.


If they actually committed it.


No.

Otherwise we should have hung Jerry Rubin for acts
committed by memebrs of the Weather Underground, SLA, etc.


Excuse me, did Jerry Rubin have a nationally syndicated radio show?
Did he claim to be a moral leader along the lines of nationally
televised preachers?

That is a very bad comparison. Rubin was a political revolutionary. He
was not, like Bimbaugh and Falwell, true wolves in sheep's clothing.


He had lots of exposure.
Rush never told his audience to go out an kill gays.


I didn't accuse him of that, I accused the pseudo-religionists of it.

If his pronouncements that gays are morally incorrect


"Morally incorrect"? Sounds like meaningless camouflage for hatred.

motivated hate crimes, it is not his cross to bear.


Once again, not what I accused Bimbo of.

What you are doing is like one of the bad things the
right does, blaming tv and movies for motivating criminals.


The association may be "like" that to you, but the attribution of
violence to the entertainment industry is speculation, whereas the
attribution of violence to the followers of the pseudo-religionists is
documented fact. To me that makes the accusations very much unlike,
but maybe that's just me.


No. Clinton never preached against infidelity or blow jobs or whatever
you think he did "wrong".


T'was lyoing under oath.


Excuse me?


That's your problem


You need to flush your toilet.


A few posts ago in another thread you drooled at the
prospect that Arny might do the same.


Krooger? He might do what?


Lie under oath


Wouldn't you love it if Mr. **** got caught doing that?


Why should you care about anybody else's sex life? Don't be a
hypocrite.


He used his position to try and worm out of responsibility for
lyiing under oath.


That's a twisted way of recounting events.

Hillary can beter mete out punishments
for his sexual transgressions than I could.


Now you're on the right track.

Anyway Rush developed his hard line attitude about drugs well before

he got
hooked. He didn't do it for deflection,


Sez you. Guaranteed he's been using some drugs or other, probably to
excess, for many, many years.


I haven't seen any evidence, nor have I even
heard such rumors.


You just started a rumor. You said he was a blowhard before he became
an addict and a hypocrite. No evidence of that either, is there?


Its an opinion. A lot of peolple thik he's a blowhard.


I think he's a blowhard. So?


BTW, I have much more sympathy
for Rush than I do for Bill Bennett.
That's a hypocrite!


Yeah, he's a schmuck of the first order.

Where is the condemnation of his hypocrisy?


I think he was not in his right mind at the time.


Bull****. Why aren't you making excuses for Clinton's philandering?


Cause I don't care about it. It's the lying under oath.


He lied about whether he fooled around with Monica, and you call that
a Constitutional crisis?


His major disappoint ment to me was his keeping it
secret for so long. But how could he tell us, when he kept denying
it to himself?


Address his hypocrisy, not his addiction per se.


The hypocricy is not in his antidrug views, but is in the fact
that he became an addict.


That doesn't make sense. The hypocrisy lies in his failure to practice
as he preached. Take away the behavior or the preaching and there's no
hypocrisy. Only with both does the hypocrisy shine through.


Talk about lack of compassion in the right, I see as much
from the left.


I don't. Please enlighten us.


I don't think it is possible to enlighten you in that regard.


That's practically an admission you're just blowing hot air.


No, its a realization that I can't do anything about your closed mind.


Copout noted.


There is alot of blind intolerance on the left.

You mean intolerance of bigotry, hypocrisy, and outright Dubya-style
lying to the electorate?

YES!


Shameful, isn't it?


Do you have some cheap excuses for Bush's (and
Cheney's and Powell's, et al) lying about the invasion of Iraq?


I think that they told us what was told to them by
our intelligence agencies, who were suckered in
by a masterful bluff by Saddam. He got us to
believe he had the stuff, when he had already gotten rid of it.
The problem was, the bluff was intended to scare us away,
instead, it provided the impetus for us to march right in.


This is all BS. There was a report on 60 Minutes last week that blows
your poor-Dubya-the-dupe theory to pieces. And before you start in
about "liberal media bias", the witnesses they interviewed were
genuine intelligence analysts employed by the government who are
greatly ashamed of the conduct of our leaders.


60 minutes has mostly been 20 years of BS


Talking about closed minds......

I believe you disagree with their agenda of exposing frauds and liars
and hypocrites, so you ignorantly claim their stories are untrue. Yet
only once have they ever revised a story, and they've never recanted
one completely.

Remember, the whole thing was because he wouldn't
answer out questions.


What does that mean?


He wouldn't answer our questions, about what he did with WMD he
previously admitted he possessed.


I can't believe you believe that. The invasion of Iraq has been on the
books at neo-con think tanks for 10 years.

How
about for the hate-mongering of Falwell and Robertson, et al?


I don't like the political behavior of the Fundamentalist Christian
movement. I find it counter to traditional American values.


They contribute to violence against gay people.


No, they are just expressing their moral outrage over gay behavior.


puke

Blame for violence against gays rests at the hands of the actual
perpetrators.


puke

You need to wake up.

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Michael Mckelvy wrote:

It's a great day today, as the culture of death is being beaten back:
Terry Schiavo will not be cruelly starved and dehydrated to death.


It's better to let someone whose brainwaves are a flat line live? I'm not
so sure.


What's the basis for your "brainwaves are a flat line" claim?
Certainly not Terri Schiavo's.

That hideous infanticide procedure called partial birth abortion is
finally going to be outlawed. Oh yeah, it's a great day for life!


Without a provision for the health of the mother. Likely to overturned.


Once again, you don't know what you're talking about.

When the baby is almost completely out of the mother's womb, but a small
portion of the baby still remains within the womb, the poor baby's tiny head
is punctured with a scissor and its brain sucked out, the health of the mother
is not an issue on whether the baby should be delivered alive or dead.


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Sockpuppet Yustabe wrote:



I haven't seen any evidence, nor have I even
heard such rumors.
BTW, I have much more sympathy
for Rush than I do for Bill Bennett.
That's a hypocrite!


The two are equally hypocritical.

Where are the differences in the two cases?



Bill Bennett has those enormous lats from pulling the one-armed bandit...


Enormous "lat," singular.
Or is he a two fisted gambler?

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"Progessive," perhaps?



I always thought of myself as a progressive. I was once a progressive
liberal, now I am a progressive conservative.


Conservative in what areas?

I ask in light of the list you posted earlier.

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You think heroin addicts did it intentionally?



YES


Became *addicted* intentionally?

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Sockpuppet Yustabe wrote:



I haven't seen any evidence, nor have I even
heard such rumors.
BTW, I have much more sympathy
for Rush than I do for Bill Bennett.
That's a hypocrite!


The two are equally hypocritical.

Where are the differences in the two cases?



Limbaugh's regimen of excruciating back pain.


I refuse to cut either any slack, and I suffer from
non-correctable back pain, every single day.

No slack for Bennett making huge cash off his hypocritical
moralizing (do whjat I say and all that), and none for Rush
for all of his vicious commentary about dsrug users
generally and addicts specifically.

In the karmic sense, prison is exactly what he deserves.

Being both compassionate and an opponent of criminalization
of drugs (it is a health issue in my view) he ought to be
forced into recovery for a slong as it takes.

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Sockpuppet Yustabe wrote:

It's a great day today, as the culture of death is being beaten back:
Terry Schiavo will not be cruelly starved and dehydrated to death.
That hideous infanticide procedure called partial birth abortion is
finally going to be outlawed. Oh yeah, it's a great day for life!


Looks like she will be cruelly fed to be forced to live a life as a
vegetable, a life she has previously expressed she did nt want to live/


Wrong and wrong.

See http://www.newsmax.com/archives/arti...3/114603.shtml
"Terri's parents say their daughter is not in a coma or a vegetative state.
'Over the last 13 years, Terri has laughed with us, cried with us, talked with us,
and even tried to get out of her chair,' Bob and Mary Schindler said in a statement."

See http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/ar...TICLE_ID=29644
"There is no written directive from Terri. In the 2000 trial, Greer ruled it was her wish
to have the feeding tube removed on the basis of testimony by Schiavo, his brother
and sister-in-law that she made "casual statements" to them that she would not want
to be kept alive artificially."

The ex-husband's motives are highly suspect for in the same article it states:
"The report of a total-body bone scan done on Terri Schindler-Schiavo, while she was
in a rehabilitation facility following the collapse that led to her brain damage, describes
what are known as "hot spots" suggestive of multiple fractures. In the words of an
unnamed physician who reviewed the report: 'Somebody worked her over real good'."

So please get your facts straight next time.


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Nexus droned:

Your opinion ain't worth a farthing.


Prove that it isn't, and convert that into good ol' US
greenbacks while you're at it!


As is your nonsensical reply, lovingly expressed, or
expectorated.


How droll.


How limp!


How stultifyingly unoriginal.

Sorry, dude, but your prose is just too mundane and banal to endure.

Later...


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Sockpuppet Yustabe wrote:

Ever hear of taxes, man? You do pay them. don't you?
Lot's of the mob corrupton bears on public projects.
Increased building costs = increased rents= increased product and services
costs. The amounf of money lost to mod corruption in businessed dwarfs what
you are talkng about in the union situation, in which BTW, the conract
egotiations would still be an issue with a clean union. You haven't even
shown the loss of one thin dime.


You don't think too clearly at 3 am in the morning, do you?


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GeoSynch wrote:

Sockpuppet Yustabe wrote:


It's a great day today, as the culture of death is being beaten back:
Terry Schiavo will not be cruelly starved and dehydrated to death.
That hideous infanticide procedure called partial birth abortion is
finally going to be outlawed. Oh yeah, it's a great day for life!



Looks like she will be cruelly fed to be forced to live a life as a
vegetable, a life she has previously expressed she did nt want to live/



Wrong and wrong.

See http://www.newsmax.com/archives/arti...3/114603.shtml
"Terri's parents say their daughter is not in a coma or a vegetative state.
'Over the last 13 years, Terri has laughed with us, cried with us, talked with us,
and even tried to get out of her chair,' Bob and Mary Schindler said in a statement."


Newsmax??

chuckle

You must be joking.

All but two of the experts the parents themselves hired have
said she is brain toast.


See http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/ar...TICLE_ID=29644
"There is no written directive from Terri. In the 2000 trial, Greer ruled it was her wish
to have the feeding tube removed on the basis of testimony by Schiavo, his brother
and sister-in-law that she made "casual statements" to them that she would not want
to be kept alive artificially."


Worldnetdaily??

Again, you must be joking.

The husband won the court cases to exert her will as
expressed to him, and the Florida legislature takes
emergency measures to give Jebbie the right to overturn the
courts decisions?

Sounds like a recent election to me...


The ex-husband's motives are highly suspect for in the same article it states:
"The report of a total-body bone scan done on Terri Schindler-Schiavo, while she was
in a rehabilitation facility following the collapse that led to her brain damage, describes
what are known as "hot spots" suggestive of multiple fractures. In the words of an
unnamed physician who reviewed the report: 'Somebody worked her over real good'."


Unnamed physician.

That is really credible.

The family refuses to let go, and it is a sad thing, but
what is happening now is wrong.


So please get your facts straight next time.


You consider yourt sources factual?

"Unnamed physician" indeed.

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GeoSynch checks out:


Your opinion ain't worth a farthing.



Prove that it isn't, and convert that into good ol' US
greenbacks while you're at it!



As is your nonsensical reply, lovingly expressed, or
expectorated.



How droll.



How limp!



How stultifyingly unoriginal.


How persistently predictable.


Sorry, dude, but your prose is just too mundane and banal to endure.


In other words, your satchel of ideas has avery large hole
in it.



Later...


For your kind, yes.

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But he's still got moral authority because he's in favor of handguns,
viciously bigoted against gay people, and against women's rights to
control their own bodies. Right?


He is in favor of the Constitutional right to bear arms.
Saying he is in fabor of hand guns is like saying
pro choice people are in favor of abortion.
For one, I am pro choice and not in favor of abortions.



This is a seriously evil individual, and you can't tell him from a
bona-fide moralizer? For shame.


No answer here?


Obviously, I disagree that he is evil.



If his pronouncements that gays are morally incorrect


"Morally incorrect"? Sounds like meaningless camouflage for hatred.


Wrong.
Just because I think cheating on one's wife is morally incorrect,
that does not mean I hate those who cheat.




The association may be "like" that to you, but the attribution of
violence to the entertainment industry is speculation, whereas the
attribution of violence to the followers of the pseudo-religionists is
documented fact. To me that makes the accusations very much unlike,
but maybe that's just me.


It is not documented fact. No commentator I know ever said
any such thing, nor any religious leader known to me.



No. Clinton never preached against infidelity or blow jobs or

whatever
you think he did "wrong".

T'was lyoing under oath.

Excuse me?


That's your problem


You need to flush your toilet.


Which has got to nothing to do with Clinton's lying under oath.



A few posts ago in another thread you drooled at the
prospect that Arny might do the same.

Krooger? He might do what?


Lie under oath


Wouldn't you love it if Mr. **** got caught doing that?


Yes, like I liked it when Clinton got caught.
BTW, his punishment is appropriate. The stain of
impeachment, but not actual removal.



Why should you care about anybody else's sex life? Don't be a
hypocrite.

He used his position to try and worm out of responsibility for
lyiing under oath.

That's a twisted way of recounting events.

Hillary can beter mete out punishments
for his sexual transgressions than I could.

Now you're on the right track.

Anyway Rush developed his hard line attitude about drugs well

before
he got
hooked. He didn't do it for deflection,

Sez you. Guaranteed he's been using some drugs or other, probably

to
excess, for many, many years.

I haven't seen any evidence, nor have I even
heard such rumors.

You just started a rumor. You said he was a blowhard before he became
an addict and a hypocrite. No evidence of that either, is there?


Its an opinion. A lot of peolple thik he's a blowhard.


I think he's a blowhard. So?


So?


BTW, I have much more sympathy
for Rush than I do for Bill Bennett.
That's a hypocrite!

Yeah, he's a schmuck of the first order.

Where is the condemnation of his hypocrisy?

I think he was not in his right mind at the time.

Bull****. Why aren't you making excuses for Clinton's philandering?


Cause I don't care about it. It's the lying under oath.


He lied about whether he fooled around with Monica, and you call that
a Constitutional crisis?


I think it went about as far as it needed to go.


His major disappoint ment to me was his keeping it
secret for so long. But how could he tell us, when he kept denying
it to himself?

Address his hypocrisy, not his addiction per se.


The hypocricy is not in his antidrug views, but is in the fact
that he became an addict.


That doesn't make sense. The hypocrisy lies in his failure to practice
as he preached. Take away the behavior or the preaching and there's no
hypocrisy. Only with both does the hypocrisy shine through.


He became addicted while legally using the drug to
to alleviate excruciating pain.



Talk about lack of compassion in the right, I see as much
from the left.

I don't. Please enlighten us.

I don't think it is possible to enlighten you in that regard.

That's practically an admission you're just blowing hot air.


No, its a realization that I can't do anything about your closed mind.


Copout noted.


All I need to do is offer all you have said previously on the subject.
There is a tone of hatred about it.
I get that same tone, even more strongly, from some
commentators on the liberal side.


There is alot of blind intolerance on the left.

You mean intolerance of bigotry, hypocrisy, and outright

Dubya-style
lying to the electorate?

YES!

Shameful, isn't it?


Do you have some cheap excuses for Bush's (and
Cheney's and Powell's, et al) lying about the invasion of Iraq?

I think that they told us what was told to them by
our intelligence agencies, who were suckered in
by a masterful bluff by Saddam. He got us to
believe he had the stuff, when he had already gotten rid of it.
The problem was, the bluff was intended to scare us away,
instead, it provided the impetus for us to march right in.

This is all BS. There was a report on 60 Minutes last week that blows
your poor-Dubya-the-dupe theory to pieces. And before you start in
about "liberal media bias", the witnesses they interviewed were
genuine intelligence analysts employed by the government who are
greatly ashamed of the conduct of our leaders.


60 minutes has mostly been 20 years of BS


Talking about closed minds......


I tried, I kept it open for about 10 years. I gave up on Rather & Co.

I believe you disagree with their agenda of exposing frauds and liars
and hypocrites, so you ignorantly claim their stories are untrue. Yet
only once have they ever revised a story, and they've never recanted
one completely.


That speaks volunes for their inability to be balanced.
They have gotten into trouble more frequently than you portrayed.
They may not lie outright all the time, but they
twist, and spin, and omit inormation that runs counter to their
agenda.
The editing is tightly controlled.
The viewer is not shown the wole story,


Remember, the whole thing was because he wouldn't
answer out questions.

What does that mean?


He wouldn't answer our questions, about what he did with WMD he
previously admitted he possessed.


I can't believe you believe that. The invasion of Iraq has been on the
books at neo-con think tanks for 10 years.


Good news for me!!!
We never did end the 1992 conflict.
of course the issue was open!!!



How
about for the hate-mongering of Falwell and Robertson, et al?

I don't like the political behavior of the Fundamentalist Christian
movement. I find it counter to traditional American values.

They contribute to violence against gay people.


No, they are just expressing their moral outrage over gay behavior.


puke

Blame for violence against gays rests at the hands of the actual
perpetrators.


puke

You need to wake up.


You need some Pepto Bismol.




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When the baby is almost completely out of the mother's womb, but a small
portion of the baby still remains within the womb, the poor baby's tiny

head
is punctured with a scissor and its brain sucked out,


True!

the health of the mother
is not an issue on whether the baby should be delivered alive or dead.


Not necessarily true!

The problem with the exception for the mother's health is that it has been
incorrecftly abused as a loophole, But we start killing
innocent mothers to save innocent babies.




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You think heroin addicts did it intentionally?



YES


Became *addicted* intentionally?


YES
You think they don't know about it?




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I am a progressive conservative.


Conservative in what areas?
I ask in light of the list you posted earlier.


Socky is pro-guns, anti-gay rights, and anti-job safety regulations.




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"Progessive," perhaps?



I always thought of myself as a progressive. I was once a progressive
liberal, now I am a progressive conservative.


Conservative in what areas?

I ask in light of the list you posted earlier.

Good question

for strong National defense and war on terror
for reasonably low taxes, fairly applied and enforced.(minimum and
maximum taxes actually paid so no one gets soaked and no one slides)
against over regulation of the environment
against wasteful social programs that don't work (40 years of failure)
(I am in favor of one's that would work)
against affirmative action (hey it worked!!! very good!!! now its time to
end it)




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It's a great day today, as the culture of death is being beaten back:
Terry Schiavo will not be cruelly starved and dehydrated to death.
That hideous infanticide procedure called partial birth abortion is
finally going to be outlawed. Oh yeah, it's a great day for life!


Looks like she will be cruelly fed to be forced to live a life as a
vegetable, a life she has previously expressed she did nt want to live/


Wrong and wrong.

See http://www.newsmax.com/archives/arti...3/114603.shtml
"Terri's parents say their daughter is not in a coma or a vegetative

state.
'Over the last 13 years, Terri has laughed with us, cried with us, talked

with us,
and even tried to get out of her chair,' Bob and Mary Schindler said in a

statement."


I consider these people as liars. They actually accused her husband of
purposefully causing
her heart attack 13 years ago.


See http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/ar...TICLE_ID=29644
"There is no written directive from Terri. In the 2000 trial, Greer ruled

it was her wish
to have the feeding tube removed on the basis of testimony by Schiavo, his

brother
and sister-in-law that she made "casual statements" to them that she would

not want
to be kept alive artificially."

Correct

The ex-husband's motives are highly suspect for in the same article it

states:
"The report of a total-body bone scan done on Terri Schindler-Schiavo,

while she was
in a rehabilitation facility following the collapse that led to her brain

damage, describes
what are known as "hot spots" suggestive of multiple fractures. In the

words of an
unnamed physician who reviewed the report: 'Somebody worked her over real

good'."


I don't see a criminal prosecution. I don't even see a lawsuit.
Smoke is being blown up your ass.





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Sockpuppet Yustabe wrote:

When the baby is almost completely out of the mother's womb, but a small
portion of the baby still remains within the womb, the poor baby's tiny
head is punctured with a scissor and its brain sucked out,


True!


the health of the mother
is not an issue on whether the baby should be delivered alive or dead.


Not necessarily true!


The problem with the exception for the mother's health is that it has been
incorrecftly abused as a loophole, But we start killing
innocent mothers to save innocent babies.


No, we do not. What you've stated is abortionist propaganda.

Pro-lifers have *NEVER* advocated sacrificing the life or health of the
mother for the sake of the unborn baby. Quite the opposite - the life
and health of the mother takes precedence over that of an unborn baby's.


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Sockpuppet Yustabe wrote:

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Sockpuppet Yustabe wrote:


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You think heroin addicts did it intentionally?


YES


Became *addicted* intentionally?



YES
You think they don't know about it?


Know?

Sure, in the sens ewe know we ought not to drive too fast
for it might get us killed, or eat fast food cause it might
give us a heart attack. With many drugs, people don't
believe they are *that* addictive, or that they will fall
prey to it.

In other words, they don't wake uyp one morning and say"
Gee, think I'll sacore me a packet and start my addiction
today."

Nexus 6

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Sockpuppet Yustabe wrote:



"Progessive," perhaps?



I always thought of myself as a progressive. I was once a progressive
liberal, now I am a progressive conservative.


Conservative in what areas?

I ask in light of the list you posted earlier.


Good question

for strong National defense and war on terror


Nebulous, the both of them.

This war on terror business is highly suspect at this point.

for reasonably low taxes, fairly applied and enforced.(minimum and
maximum taxes actually paid so no one gets soaked and no one slides)


This falls to specifics.

against over regulation of the environment


Depends upon the purpose of the regulation, and what it is
intended to protect.

against wasteful social programs that don't work (40 years of failure)
(I am in favor of one's that would work)


Such as?

against affirmative action (hey it worked!!! very good!!! now its time to
end it)


I don't think that day has arrived yet.

Nexus 6

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