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Sockpuppet Yustabe wrote:
The concept of unionism is not Socialism. See the 2nd paragraph of this link of the Democratic Socialists of America: http://dsausa.org/about/history.html "Socialists were influential in the leadership of some major American Federation of Labor (AFL) unions, as well as in independent unions such as the Amalgamated Clothing Workers. Socialist and non-Socialist radicals in the Industrial Workers of the World (IWW) pioneered in the organization of unions among immigrant workers in mass production industries..." Or how about this little gem from the Socialist Labor Party http://www.slp.org/what_is.htm "Under socialism, all authority will originate from the workers, integrally united in Socialist Industrial Unions." Although, in the past, Socialists have tried to infiltrate unions, sometimes successfully. At its core, unionism is basedupon capitalistic principals. You may have listened a little too much to Joan Baez singin' 'bout Joe Hill lately. ;-) Coprorations are a conglomeration of individual investm,ents amassed to form one large enterprise, larger than on any of the individual investors could intiate. This brings economy of scale, and masses the corporate entity's economic power. You seem to be trying to say that *all* corporations are trying to corner the market on labor. If they *ALL* concertedly acted in such an oligopolistic manner, then there would be some truth to what you allude to. But the truth of the matter is that most all corporations - just like most all individuals - act in their own best self-interest. This creates a marketplace of jobs where the individual can choose to work at the job that best suits his circumstances: education, skills, locale and other such considerations. If, after all, over 90% of the non-governmental workforce is *not* unionized, why would not all these individuals acting in their own best interests *not* be clamoring to create or join a union? Unions, with their exclusionary practices, impose an unwarranted societal cost; for instance, when the pandering Gray Davis recently signed the bill that guaranteed that crossing guards and other such union members would receive pensions equivalent to 80% to 90% of their salaries, just who do you think is ultimately going to have to foot the bill for that? The labor union does the same thing for the employee. From an economic standpoint, unions drive up the cost of goods and services beyond what their equilibrium price would be in the marketplace based on supply and demand. BTW, I am slightly right of center!! Well, at least you have sense enough not to be to the left of it. :-) GeoSynch calls me a Bolshevik, and Sanders calls me a Reactionary!!! You may take solace no one's called you Trotsky yet! GeoSynch |
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GeoSynch wrote:
Lionel wrote: I don't think that socialism never brings to much trouble in USA so please Geo keep on speaking what you really know. So, how are you getting along with all those Muslims who have in recent years seemingly invaded your country? I hear they like to overturn cars just for the fun of it. GeoSynch Sincerely ? Very badly. We are very badly getting along with them. Lionel |
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Lionel wrote:
So, how are you getting along with all those Muslims who have in recent years seemingly invaded your country? I hear they like to overturn cars just for the fun of it. Sincerely ? Very badly. We are very badly getting along with them. Thank you for an honest answer about that, something that seems to be in short supply around here. GeoSynch |
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"GeoSynch" wrote in message ink.net... Sockpuppet Yustabe wrote: The concept of unionism is not Socialism. See the 2nd paragraph of this link of the Democratic Socialists of America: http://dsausa.org/about/history.html "Socialists were influential in the leadership of some major American Federation of Labor (AFL) unions, as well as in independent unions such as the Amalgamated Clothing Workers. Socialist and non-Socialist radicals in the Industrial Workers of the World (IWW) pioneered in the organization of unions among immigrant workers in mass production industries..." Or how about this little gem from the Socialist Labor Party http://www.slp.org/what_is.htm "Under socialism, all authority will originate from the workers, integrally united in Socialist Industrial Unions." Although, in the past, Socialists have tried to infiltrate unions, sometimes successfully. At its core, unionism is basedupon capitalistic principals. You may have listened a little too much to Joan Baez singin' 'bout Joe Hill lately. ;-) Coprorations are a conglomeration of individual investm,ents amassed to form one large enterprise, larger than on any of the individual investors could intiate. This brings economy of scale, and masses the corporate entity's economic power. You seem to be trying to say that *all* corporations are trying to corner the market on labor. If they *ALL* concertedly acted in such an oligopolistic manner, then there would be some truth to what you allude to. But the truth of the matter is that most all corporations - just like most all individuals - act in their own best self-interest. This creates a marketplace of jobs where the individual can choose to work at the job that best suits his circumstances: education, skills, locale and other such considerations. If, after all, over 90% of the non-governmental workforce is *not* unionized, why would not all these individuals acting in their own best interests *not* be clamoring to create or join a union? Unions, with their exclusionary practices, impose an unwarranted societal cost; for instance, when the pandering Gray Davis recently signed the bill that guaranteed that crossing guards and other such union members would receive pensions equivalent to 80% to 90% of their salaries, just who do you think is ultimately going to have to foot the bill for that? The labor union does the same thing for the employee. From an economic standpoint, unions drive up the cost of goods and services beyond what their equilibrium price would be in the marketplace based on supply and demand. BTW, I am slightly right of center!! Well, at least you have sense enough not to be to the left of it. :-) GeoSynch calls me a Bolshevik, and Sanders calls me a Reactionary!!! You may take solace no one's called you Trotsky yet! GeoSynch I said that Socialists tried to infiltrate some unions. So did organized crime Of course, organized crime has been even more successful infiltrating some corporations. ----== Posted via Newsfeed.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 100,000 Newsgroups ---= 19 East/West-Coast Specialized Servers - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- |
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I said that Socialists tried to infiltrate some unions. So did organized crime Of course, organized crime has been even more successful infiltrating some corporations. Funny how that doesn't bother the government-supported-"free"-marketeers. Nexus 6 |
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"Nexus 6" wrote in message news:Jrdlb.1834$d87.727@okepread05... I said that Socialists tried to infiltrate some unions. So did organized crime Of course, organized crime has been even more successful infiltrating some corporations. Funny how that doesn't bother the government-supported-"free"-marketeers. Nexus 6 OSAF! |
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Sockpuppet Yustabe wrote:
I said that Socialists tried to infiltrate some unions. So did organized crime Of course, organized crime has been even more successful infiltrating some corporations. Like, which ones, besides, of course, Vegas casinos? GeoSynch |
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Nexus 6 dribbled:
I said that Socialists tried to infiltrate some unions. So did organized crime Of course, organized crime has been even more successful infiltrating some corporations. Funny how that doesn't bother the government-supported-"free"-marketeers. Nice idiotic response. GeoSynch |
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"GeoSynch" wrote in message . net... Sockpuppet Yustabe wrote: I said that Socialists tried to infiltrate some unions. So did organized crime Of course, organized crime has been even more successful infiltrating some corporations. Like, which ones, besides, of course, Vegas casinos? GeoSynch A nunber of building trade companies in NYC. particularly in concrete and windows. Trash haulers, many different cities Trucking companies some import/export companies ----== Posted via Newsfeed.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 100,000 Newsgroups ---= 19 East/West-Coast Specialized Servers - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- |
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Sockpuppet Yustabe said: Of course, organized crime has been even more successful infiltrating some corporations. Like, which ones, besides, of course, Vegas casinos? A nunber of building trade companies in NYC. particularly in concrete and windows. Trash haulers, many different cities Trucking companies some import/export companies dock workers |
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Michael Mckelvy wrote: "Nexus 6" wrote in message news:Jrdlb.1834$d87.727@okepread05... I said that Socialists tried to infiltrate some unions. So did organized crime Of course, organized crime has been even more successful infiltrating some corporations. Funny how that doesn't bother the government-supported-"free"-marketeers. Nexus 6 OSAF! chuckle Gets you every time, Mikey. Good to see ya. Nexus 6 |
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GeoSynch wrote: Sockpuppet Yustabe wrote: I said that Socialists tried to infiltrate some unions. So did organized crime Of course, organized crime has been even more successful infiltrating some corporations. Like, which ones, besides, of course, Vegas casinos? Enron, Worldcom, etc. Organized, and criminal in the extreme. Make the Mob look like ****ing amateurs. Nexus 6 |
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GeoSynch wrote: Nexus 6 dribbled: I said that Socialists tried to infiltrate some unions. So did organized crime Of course, organized crime has been even more successful infiltrating some corporations. Funny how that doesn't bother the government-supported-"free"-marketeers. Nice idiotic response. Right on the money, in my opinion, which it is. As is your nonsensical reply, lovingly expressed, or expectorated. Rush's absence leaving you without a catch phrase or two to parrot? Perhaps Mr. "Polk Award" O'Reilly can come to your rescue. Or you could consult "Jack-Boots-Comin'-To-Get-Me" Liddy for a witty riposte. |
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On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 02:35:09 GMT, "GeoSynch"
wrote: Sockpuppet Yustabe wrote: I said that Socialists tried to infiltrate some unions. So did organized crime Of course, organized crime has been even more successful infiltrating some corporations. Like, which ones, besides, of course, Vegas casinos? GeoSynch Ever hear of Aramark? Or Waste Management? Look suspiciously at general contacting firms that "win" state road contracts. Especially bridge and tunnel works. Of course, there's always trucking and stevedores, too. |
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Sockpuppet Yustabe wrote:
I said that Socialists tried to infiltrate some unions. So did organized crime Of course, organized crime has been even more successful infiltrating some corporations. Like, which ones, besides, of course, Vegas casinos? A nunber of building trade companies in NYC. particularly in concrete and windows. Trash haulers, many different cities Trucking companies some import/export companies OK, but they're all small potatos, relatively speaking, and they have little or no impact on the prices for goods and services you or anybody else would have to pay in general, whereas the unionized grocery worker strike will directly impact you, because the prices you'll pay for your groceries will increase and also some of your favorite items you can usually count on being on sale won't be. GeoSynch |
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Nexus 6 clucked:
Right on the money, in my opinion, which it is. Your opinion ain't worth a farthing. As is your nonsensical reply, lovingly expressed, or expectorated. How droll. Rush's absence leaving you without a catch phrase or two to parrot? I don't listen to Rush or AM radio. Perhaps Mr. "Polk Award" O'Reilly can come to your rescue. I prefer watching Chris Matthews "Hardball" than the smug O'Reilly. Or you could consult "Jack-Boots-Comin'-To-Get-Me" Liddy for a witty riposte. Whereas you prefer the psychotic, angry, guilty white male liberals like Al Franken, Michael Moore or the other forgettable ones. It's a great day today, as the culture of death is being beaten back: Terry Schiavo will not be cruelly starved and dehydrated to death. That hideous infanticide procedure called partial birth abortion is finally going to be outlawed. Oh yeah, it's a great day for life! GeoSynch |
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GeoSynch wrote: Nexus 6 clucked: Right on the money, in my opinion, which it is. Your opinion ain't worth a farthing. Prove that it isn't, and convert that into good ol' US greenbacks while you're at it! As is your nonsensical reply, lovingly expressed, or expectorated. How droll. How limp! Rush's absence leaving you without a catch phrase or two to parrot? I don't listen to Rush or AM radio. Hallelujah! Perhaps Mr. "Polk Award" O'Reilly can come to your rescue. I prefer watching Chris Matthews "Hardball" than the smug O'Reilly. Matthews. What a tool. Or you could consult "Jack-Boots-Comin'-To-Get-Me" Liddy for a witty riposte. Whereas you prefer the psychotic, angry, guilty white male liberals like Al Franken, Michael Moore or the other forgettable ones. They are a tad angry, but certainly not psychotic. It is good to hear you are not a talk radio head - that **** is very bad for the soul. It's a great day today, as the culture of death is being beaten back: Terry Schiavo will not be cruelly starved and dehydrated to death. "Culture of death?" A woman who didn't want to live as a bit if human wreckage being forced into it is "life?" That hideous infanticide procedure called partial birth abortion is finally going to be outlawed. Oh yeah, it's a great day for life! It's a great day for religious whackos, to be sure. Halle-****in'-lujah! Nexus 666 |
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"GeoSynch" wrote in message k.net... Sockpuppet Yustabe wrote: I said that Socialists tried to infiltrate some unions. So did organized crime Of course, organized crime has been even more successful infiltrating some corporations. Like, which ones, besides, of course, Vegas casinos? A nunber of building trade companies in NYC. particularly in concrete and windows. Trash haulers, many different cities Trucking companies some import/export companies OK, but they're all small potatos, relatively speaking, and they have little or no impact on the prices for goods and services you or anybody else would have to pay in general, whereas the unionized grocery worker strike will directly impact you, because the prices you'll pay for your groceries will increase and also some of your favorite items you can usually count on being on sale won't be. GeoSynch Ever hear of taxes, man? You do pay them. don't you? Lot's of the mob corrupton bears on public projects. Increased building costs = increased rents= increased product and services costs. The amounf of money lost to mod corruption in businessed dwarfs what you are talkng about in the union situation, in which BTW, the conract egotiations would still be an issue with a clean union. You haven't even shown the loss of one thin dime. ----== Posted via Newsfeed.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 100,000 Newsgroups ---= 19 East/West-Coast Specialized Servers - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- |
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"GeoSynch" wrote in message k.net... Nexus 6 clucked: Right on the money, in my opinion, which it is. Your opinion ain't worth a farthing. As is your nonsensical reply, lovingly expressed, or expectorated. How droll. Rush's absence leaving you without a catch phrase or two to parrot? I don't listen to Rush or AM radio. Perhaps Mr. "Polk Award" O'Reilly can come to your rescue. I prefer watching Chris Matthews "Hardball" than the smug O'Reilly. Or you could consult "Jack-Boots-Comin'-To-Get-Me" Liddy for a witty riposte. Whereas you prefer the psychotic, angry, guilty white male liberals like Al Franken, Michael Moore or the other forgettable ones. It's a great day today, as the culture of death is being beaten back: Terry Schiavo will not be cruelly starved and dehydrated to death. That hideous infanticide procedure called partial birth abortion is finally going to be outlawed. Oh yeah, it's a great day for life! GeoSynch Looks like she will be cruelly fed to be forced to live a life as a vegetable, a life she has previously expressed she did nt want to live/ ----== Posted via Newsfeed.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 100,000 Newsgroups ---= 19 East/West-Coast Specialized Servers - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- |
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Nexus 6 said to StynchBlob: "Culture of death?" A woman who didn't want to live as a bit if human wreckage being forced into it is "life?" Ask Blobbo what it has to say about capital punishment. |
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George M. Middius wrote:
Nexus 6 said to StynchBlob: "Culture of death?" A woman who didn't want to live as a bit if human wreckage being forced into it is "life?" Ask Blobbo what it has to say about capital punishment. I am totally against capital punishment, I prefer eugenism... ....Prevention is better than cure. ;-) |
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"Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message ... "GeoSynch" wrote in message . net... Sockpuppet Yustabe wrote: I said that Socialists tried to infiltrate some unions. So did organized crime Of course, organized crime has been even more successful infiltrating some corporations. Like, which ones, besides, of course, Vegas casinos? GeoSynch A nunber of building trade companies in NYC. particularly in concrete and windows. Trash haulers, many different cities Trucking companies some import/export companies Which goes right along with the Teamsters love affair with the mob. ----== Posted via Newsfeed.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 100,000 Newsgroups ---= 19 East/West-Coast Specialized Servers - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- |
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"Nexus 6" wrote in message news:d9olb.2180$d87.1194@okepread05... GeoSynch wrote: Sockpuppet Yustabe wrote: I said that Socialists tried to infiltrate some unions. So did organized crime Of course, organized crime has been even more successful infiltrating some corporations. Like, which ones, besides, of course, Vegas casinos? Enron, Worldcom, etc. Organized, and criminal in the extreme. Make the Mob look like ****ing amateurs. Nexus 6 And the bosses will all be going to jail, except maybe Terry McCauliffe. |
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George M. Middius wrote: Nexus 6 said to StynchBlob: "Culture of death?" A woman who didn't want to live as a bit if human wreckage being forced into it is "life?" Ask Blobbo what it has to say about capital punishment. I'm feeling psychic today: "Kill 'em all and let Gawd sort 'em out." Am I close? Nexus 6 |
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Lionel wrote: I am totally against capital punishment, I prefer eugenism... ...Prevention is better than cure. ;-) That seems an historically untenable position for a Frenchman. Nexus 6 |
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"Nexus 6" wrote in message news:wcolb.2181$d87.495@okepread05... GeoSynch wrote: Nexus 6 dribbled: I said that Socialists tried to infiltrate some unions. So did organized crime Of course, organized crime has been even more successful infiltrating some corporations. Funny how that doesn't bother the government-supported-"free"-marketeers. Nice idiotic response. Right on the money, in my opinion, which it is. Proof? As is your nonsensical reply, lovingly expressed, or expectorated. Rush's absence leaving you without a catch phrase or two to parrot? Perhaps Mr. "Polk Award" O'Reilly can come to your rescue. Or you could consult "Jack-Boots-Comin'-To-Get-Me" Liddy for a witty riposte. |
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"GeoSynch" wrote in message k.net... Nexus 6 clucked: Right on the money, in my opinion, which it is. Your opinion ain't worth a farthing. As is your nonsensical reply, lovingly expressed, or expectorated. How droll. Rush's absence leaving you without a catch phrase or two to parrot? I don't listen to Rush or AM radio. Perhaps Mr. "Polk Award" O'Reilly can come to your rescue. I prefer watching Chris Matthews "Hardball" than the smug O'Reilly. Or you could consult "Jack-Boots-Comin'-To-Get-Me" Liddy for a witty riposte. Whereas you prefer the psychotic, angry, guilty white male liberals like Al Franken, Michael Moore or the other forgettable ones. It's a great day today, as the culture of death is being beaten back: Terry Schiavo will not be cruelly starved and dehydrated to death. It's better to let someone whose brainwaves are a flat line live? I'm not so sure. That hideous infanticide procedure called partial birth abortion is finally going to be outlawed. Oh yeah, it's a great day for life! Without a provision for the health of the mother. Likely to overturned. GeoSynch |
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Nexus 6 said: I am totally against capital punishment, I prefer eugenism... ...Prevention is better than cure. ;-) That seems an historically untenable position for a Frenchman. Is that an incest joke? |
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Nexus 6 wrote:
Lionel wrote: I am totally against capital punishment, I prefer eugenism... ...Prevention is better than cure. ;-) That seems an historically untenable position for a Frenchman. Nexus 6 You are right but I don't know any emoticon for : "I'm sadly joking" Lionel |
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Michael Mckelvy wrote: "Nexus 6" wrote in message news:d9olb.2180$d87.1194@okepread05... GeoSynch wrote: Sockpuppet Yustabe wrote: I said that Socialists tried to infiltrate some unions. So did organized crime Of course, organized crime has been even more successful infiltrating some corporations. Like, which ones, besides, of course, Vegas casinos? Enron, Worldcom, etc. Organized, and criminal in the extreme. Make the Mob look like ****ing amateurs. Nexus 6 And the bosses will all be going to jail, except maybe Terry McCauliffe. You must be kidding. Enron's best friend is running the big show in that big white house. None of them indicted, and none to see prison. McAuliffe, for what it is worth, learned his tricks from the legacy set by folks like Lee A****er. Equally, Limbaugh, a staunch proponent of jail time for addicts, will not be charged, thanks to Jebbie. Nexus 6 |
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George M. Middius wrote: Nexus 6 said: I am totally against capital punishment, I prefer eugenism... ...Prevention is better than cure. ;-) That seems an historically untenable position for a Frenchman. Is that an incest joke? No. Nexus 6 |
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Lionel wrote: Nexus 6 wrote: Lionel wrote: I am totally against capital punishment, I prefer eugenism... ...Prevention is better than cure. ;-) That seems an historically untenable position for a Frenchman. Nexus 6 You are right but I don't know any emoticon for : "I'm sadly joking" Ah. Of course, just like every American over the age of twelve was at Woodstock, every Frenchman alive in the 1940's was a member of the resistance. Nexus 6 |
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Nexus 6 said: I am totally against capital punishment, I prefer eugenism... ...Prevention is better than cure. ;-) That seems an historically untenable position for a Frenchman. Is that an incest joke? No. We give up. |
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Nexus 6 said: I am totally against capital punishment, I prefer eugenism... ...Prevention is better than cure. ;-) That seems an historically untenable position for a Frenchman. Is that an incest joke? No. Wait, I think I have it -- it's an abortion comment, right? |
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George M. Middius said: No. We give up. A Nazi crack, then? |
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"Nexus 6" wrote in message news:%Hzlb.2257$d87.729@okepread05... Michael Mckelvy wrote: "Nexus 6" wrote in message news:d9olb.2180$d87.1194@okepread05... GeoSynch wrote: Sockpuppet Yustabe wrote: I said that Socialists tried to infiltrate some unions. So did organized crime Of course, organized crime has been even more successful infiltrating some corporations. Like, which ones, besides, of course, Vegas casinos? Enron, Worldcom, etc. Organized, and criminal in the extreme. Make the Mob look like ****ing amateurs. Nexus 6 And the bosses will all be going to jail, except maybe Terry McCauliffe. You must be kidding. Enron's best friend is running the big show in that big white house. None of them indicted, and none to see prison. McAuliffe, for what it is worth, learned his tricks from the legacy set by folks like Lee A****er. Equally, Limbaugh, a staunch proponent of jail time for addicts, will not be charged, thanks to Jebbie. Nexus 6 He should be treated similarly to how others in his position have been treated. Ususally, addicts voluntarily going in for treatment are not prosecuted for the previous crimes of having purvhased and possesed those drugs. Possession chrges usually are brought agaiinst those cought redhanded, posessing drugs, or in the act of purchasing them. I am not condoning what he did, nor am I advocating any special treatment, but what I do not want to see is prosecutors gettiing over-vindictive afainst him because they disagree with his politics. I would say the same thing, were it a liberal point man like Al Franken or James Carvile in the hot seat. ----== Posted via Newsfeed.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 100,000 Newsgroups ---= 19 East/West-Coast Specialized Servers - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- |
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Sockpuppet Yustabe said: Equally, Limbaugh, a staunch proponent of jail time for addicts, will not be charged, thanks to Jebbie. He should be treated similarly to how others in his position have been treated. You mean the position of having publicly called for harsh punishment for those who do what he did? Isn't it possible that Limbaugh's yammering may have indirectly influenced the jail sentences inflicted on other drug users? He should be made an example of. He abused a position of influence, albeit an ad-hoc one, in order to deflect attention away from his own bad behavior. I would say the same thing, were it a liberal point man like Al Franken or James Carvile in the hot seat. Disagreed. They aren't rabble-rousers and hatemongers. In fact, it wouldn't surprise me if Franken is on the record as supporting the right side of the "drug issue". |
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Nexus 6 wrote:
Lionel wrote: Nexus 6 wrote: Lionel wrote: I am totally against capital punishment, I prefer eugenism... ...Prevention is better than cure. ;-) That seems an historically untenable position for a Frenchman. Nexus 6 You are right but I don't know any emoticon for : "I'm sadly joking" Ah. Of course, just like every American over the age of twelve was at Woodstock, every Frenchman alive in the 1940's was a member of the resistance. Just speaking about males, we can make the count like that : - 250,000 killed during the "Drôle de guerre" - 1,000,000 prisoners in Germany - Like in all wars all around the world most males were father and try to take care of their families trying to avoid the STO (Obligatory Labour Service in Germany). - Maximum 10% were in the resistance - Minimum 10% were collaborating with nazism. One of my Grand-Father have been wounded at "Chemin des dames" in 1917 (only one hand). In 1942 he was an alcoholic with 16 children when my Grand-Mother died at 40 during her 17th childbirth. My other Grand-Father was more lucky he was in Germany as POW and came back home in 1945. Is the above answers to your cliche ? Lionel |
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"Nexus 6" wrote in message news:%Hzlb.2257$d87.729@okepread05... Michael Mckelvy wrote: "Nexus 6" wrote in message news:d9olb.2180$d87.1194@okepread05... GeoSynch wrote: Sockpuppet Yustabe wrote: I said that Socialists tried to infiltrate some unions. So did organized crime Of course, organized crime has been even more successful infiltrating some corporations. Like, which ones, besides, of course, Vegas casinos? Enron, Worldcom, etc. Organized, and criminal in the extreme. Make the Mob look like ****ing amateurs. Nexus 6 And the bosses will all be going to jail, except maybe Terry McCauliffe. You must be kidding. Enron's best friend is running the big show in that big white house. Lieberman? None of them indicted, and none to see prison. Yet. McAuliffe, for what it is worth, learned his tricks from the legacy set by folks like Lee A****er. Riiiiiiiiiiiiiigghhht! Equally, Limbaugh, a staunch proponent of jail time for addicts, will not be charged, thanks to Jebbie. Nexus 6 When has Rush Limbaugh ever said people who become accidentally addicted to prescrition pain killers should go to jail? |
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"George M. Middius" wrote in message ... Sockpuppet Yustabe said: Equally, Limbaugh, a staunch proponent of jail time for addicts, will not be charged, thanks to Jebbie. He should be treated similarly to how others in his position have been treated. You mean the position of having publicly called for harsh punishment for those who do what he did? No, that's not the way the law is supposed to work. According to your logic, legalization advocates should walk. Its obvious, you want him punished for his views. You just about said it. Isn't it possible that Limbaugh's yammering may have indirectly influenced the jail sentences inflicted on other drug users? No He should be made an example of. He abused a position of influence, albeit an ad-hoc one, in order to deflect attention away from his own bad behavior. Hehe, sound like a description of Clinton, to me. ("Don't bother me about Monica, it detracts from my running the country") Anyway Rush developed his hard line attitude about drugs well before he got hooked. He didn't do it for deflection, Now the guy was in serious denial, like all drug and alcohol abusers. Also, I have some empathy for the situation in which he got hooked, using those drugs to alleviate severe pain due to a medical condition. I have seen someone close to me endure such pain, and ask to die. So I can see where he would use those drugs for that purpose. However, after a while, on vould easily get hooked. Talk about lack of compassion in the right, I see as much from the left.It sickens me, and it is a mjor reason I no longer adhere to the program. I would say the same thing, were it a liberal point man like Al Franken or James Carvile in the hot seat. Disagreed. They aren't rabble-rousers and hatemongers. In fact, it wouldn't surprise me if Franken is on the record as supporting the right side of the "drug issue". They are, as much as Limburgh is, which is not much. There is alot of blind intolerance on the left. You just don't see it. Actually, you tend towards exhibiting it yourself. Now, I am not calling you a hate monger or rabble rouser, but I think that you are, by your strongly held principals, prone to detest individuals who hold different political opinions. Do you want to be like Sanders, whose leftist beliefs prevent him from maintaining a friendship with someone like me, who resides, but moderately, on the other side of the road? BTW, I am: pro choice (though I don't particularly like abortions, making them illegal is just not workable, nor is it correct) pro drug legalization in favor of programs that will truly help the working poor and those not able to work (such as accountability in schools, vouchers only where schools are failing, no or low interest loans for small businesses and housing, subsidized day care) pro legalization of prostitiution pro condoms for teenagers etc. ----== Posted via Newsfeed.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 100,000 Newsgroups ---= 19 East/West-Coast Specialized Servers - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- |