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Question about Jupiter
Arny Krueger wrote in message : How many times until you learn, paedo? I might skim-read one in twenty of your posts. Don't bother talking to me. I don't read what you write. Do you seriously think that I write replies to your posts just for you to read, Graham? Hey boys, we've got another one that just fell off the turnip truck! Arny, please don't talk like that. Who are those boys? When can I see you without those boys? Please, Arny...... Arny is My Kroo-Daddy |
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Question about Jupiter
Arny Krueger wrote in message : You can't even ask a diret question, can you? I don't know what a "diret" question might be. Arny, I think he made a typo. Do you ever make typos? It's that ole debating trade technique at work. See where your dominatrix act got you, Singh? Singh ponied up the true facts and made you look like an even bigger idiot than you already had made of yourself. What is this game Arny? This post is from Dave. I know he doesn't like you, and Singh doesn't like you, but I always thought they are two different peoples. How did you figure out they are the same person? Please explain it to me Arny. I'm not smart like you but I want to understand everything the way you do. Arny is My Kroo-Daddy |
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Question about Jupiter
On Wed, 8 Oct 2003 22:06:04 -0400, "Arny Krueger"
wrote: "trotsky" wrote in message dave weil wrote: On Wed, 08 Oct 2003 12:00:32 GMT, trotsky wrote: dave weil wrote: On Tue, 7 Oct 2003 20:22:16 -0400, "Arny Krueger" wrote: Perhaps Fedex is more conducive to helping with conspiracies. In this case it's quite clear that Singh can rise to factual challenges far better than Weil. That's because he's a submissive. Not that there's anything wrong with that, of course. You and Middius must have more of a relationship than I thought. I doubt it. You actually have more of a relationship with him than I do, since money has actually changed hands between you. Arnold says jump and you say, "How high"? That's pretty submissive... Yeah, that's believable: I'm at Arny's beck and call all the time. Indeed. It seems like Weil is trying to move ahead in RAO's race to total insanity. Are you grounded in reality on any topic, dave? In Weil world, being reasonably agreeable tags you as a "submissive". Now *this* is worlds being turned upside down. |
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Question about Jupiter
On Wed, 8 Oct 2003 18:36:34 -0700, "ScottW"
wrote: Because, despite what Arnold and Mike have said (and yes, even the Devil), they ARE NOT mediocre speakers in the least. They do FAR more things right than they do wrong. And that puts them ahead of many commercial designs. Name some comparably priced speakers currently on the market that you think are inferior to the Jupiters, please. I didn't mention price. |
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Question about Jupiter
The Devil wrote: On 09 Oct 2003 00:12:22 GMT, (Bruce J. Richman) wrote: You've been stealing my intellectual property for years. Shouldn't that be "my mother****ing intellectual property"? The theft of Singh's intellectual property has been officially recognized by the US Armed Forces. It can be found under Job Descriptions for Latrine Duty. I find it fascinating that he would actually say that in response to my post--I did clearly indicate I was going to purchase the kit from *Madisound*. There is no "kit", Dev. That is a construct of your alcohol soaked mind. What usually happens in these skirmishes is that I adhere to the facts, and you guys go down the toilet in a downward spiral of lies. Hence what you've said here. It's getting boring, really: I don't care if a hundred guys jump on the ****** pile, you all resort to lying eventually. Bruce Richman can probably explain this better than me. And in any case, Greg does not have any intellectual property in the Europa speaker. I wonder if on Tuesdays he thinks he's a bag of onions. Zzzzz. |
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Question about Jupiter
Arny Krueger wrote: In Weil world, being reasonably agreeable tags you as a "submissive". I wasn't reasonable, Arny--"ScottW" and dave weil pointed out a gaffe that I made with respect to personal information. You asked a ****ty question and don't even realize it. |
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Question about Jupiter
On Thu, 09 Oct 2003 03:06:57 GMT, trotsky wrote:
Arny Krueger wrote: In Weil world, being reasonably agreeable tags you as a "submissive". I wasn't reasonable, Arny--"ScottW" and dave weil pointed out a gaffe that I made with respect to personal information. You asked a ****ty question and don't even realize it. Ohhhh, I think he did. I think he was fishing for personal information. That's why I didn't comply. |
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Question about Jupiter
George M. Middius wrote:
trotsky said: You've been stealing my intellectual property for years. Shouldn't that be "my mother****ing intellectual property"? Q: is it really stealing when the copy is so bad that it's barely functional? |
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Question about Jupiter
Obie Wanna Clue said: You've been stealing my intellectual property for years. Shouldn't that be "my mother****ing intellectual property"? Q: is it really stealing when the copy is so bad that it's barely functional? It's getting pretty tedious reading your "what are you guys talking about?" posts. Can't you please educate yourself instead of acting like a Krooger klone? |
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Question about Jupiter
trotsky wrote:
Arny Krueger wrote: In Weil world, being reasonably agreeable tags you as a "submissive". I wasn't reasonable, Arny--"ScottW" and dave weil pointed out a gaffe that I made with respect to personal information. You asked a ****ty question and don't even realize it. As you use to transform all "interesting questions" in "****ty questions" some of us prefer to take the shortcut... |
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Question about Jupiter
"ScottW" wrote in message
news:FY2hb.16964$gi2.1996@fed1read01 "dave weil" wrote in message ... On Wed, 08 Oct 2003 12:31:52 GMT, Joseph Oberlander wrote: Oh. Humm - that means I can go look at them if he starts selling them on consignment/etc - because he'll go to a local audio store or two first. It would actually be interesting to hear them. It *is* interesting to hear them. I think it's rather important to hear them before commenting on them. Normally, I would agree. But since Trots doesn't think it is important, why should anybody else? He has a history of doing just that. His marketing plan is to get people to buy them based upon a web page. Because, despite what Arnold and Mike have said (and yes, even the Devil), they ARE NOT mediocre speakers in the least. They do FAR more things right than they do wrong. And that puts them ahead of many commercial designs. Name some comparably priced speakers currently on the market that you think are inferior to the Jupiters, please. Wonderful question! LOL! |
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Question about Jupiter
"Arny Krueger" wrote in message news "ScottW" wrote in message news:FY2hb.16964$gi2.1996@fed1read01 Name some comparably priced speakers currently on the market that you think are inferior to the Jupiters, please. Wonderful question! LOL! "At least" they are not as bad as Bose. But that is supposition, as I have never heard Jupiter. ----== Posted via Newsfeed.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 100,000 Newsgroups ---= 19 East/West-Coast Specialized Servers - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- |
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Question about Jupiter
dave weil wrote: On Thu, 09 Oct 2003 03:06:57 GMT, trotsky wrote: Arny Krueger wrote: In Weil world, being reasonably agreeable tags you as a "submissive". I wasn't reasonable, Arny--"ScottW" and dave weil pointed out a gaffe that I made with respect to personal information. You asked a ****ty question and don't even realize it. Ohhhh, I think he did. I think he was fishing for personal information. That's why I didn't comply. Well, again, my mistake. |
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Question about Jupiter
Sockpuppet Yustabe wrote:
"Arny Krueger" wrote in message news "ScottW" wrote in message news:FY2hb.16964$gi2.1996@fed1read01 Name some comparably priced speakers currently on the market that you think are inferior to the Jupiters, please. Wonderful question! LOL! "At least" they are not as bad as Bose. But that is supposition, as I have never heard Jupiter. Pimpon - pimpon - pimpon - pimpon - pimpon(*) ! (*)this is the french onomatopoeia for ambulances... ;-) |
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Question about Jupiter
"trotsky" wrote in message
dave weil wrote: On Thu, 09 Oct 2003 03:06:57 GMT, trotsky wrote: Arny Krueger wrote: In Weil world, being reasonably agreeable tags you as a "submissive". I wasn't reasonable, Arny--"ScottW" and dave weil pointed out a gaffe that I made with respect to personal information. You asked a ****ty question and don't even realize it. The question about tracking number was conceived of for the obvious purpose of getting a reality check from an impartial source. Ohhhh, I think he did. I think he was fishing for personal information. That's why I didn't comply. The personal information was an "Easter Egg" Well, again, my mistake. Nahh Singh, you did the right thing and you cleared some air. At worst it just was a step towards evening up the personal information score between Weil and I. Your comment also unintentionally elicited Weil's wonderfully self-revelatory "submissive" comment, which goes far to explain his years of egregious behavior on RAO quite nicely. Thank You! |
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Question about Jupiter
Joseph Oberlander wrote: George M. Middius wrote: trotsky said: You've been stealing my intellectual property for years. Shouldn't that be "my mother****ing intellectual property"? Q: is it really stealing when the copy is so bad that it's barely functional? I think "the Devil" can do better than that. Or were you talking about yourself? P.S. You still need to figure out which way the arrow is pointing. |
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Question about Jupiter
Arny Krueger wrote: "trotsky" wrote in message dave weil wrote: On Thu, 09 Oct 2003 03:06:57 GMT, trotsky wrote: Arny Krueger wrote: In Weil world, being reasonably agreeable tags you as a "submissive". I wasn't reasonable, Arny--"ScottW" and dave weil pointed out a gaffe that I made with respect to personal information. You asked a ****ty question and don't even realize it. The question about tracking number was conceived of for the obvious purpose of getting a reality check from an impartial source. Arny, why on Earth would anyone believe you? Your reputation as a Christian? Ohhhh, I think he did. I think he was fishing for personal information. That's why I didn't comply. The personal information was an "Easter Egg" Well, again, my mistake. Nahh Singh, you did the right thing and you cleared some air. At worst it just was a step towards evening up the personal information score between Weil and I. Your comment also unintentionally elicited Weil's wonderfully self-revelatory "submissive" comment, which goes far to explain his years of egregious behavior on RAO quite nicely. Thank You! See above. |
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Question about Jupiter
trotsky wrote:
Why not? You've been stealing my intellectual property for years. Trotsky, this could a crime if you don't write "intellectual"... ....the way you write it it's a joke ! |
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Question about Jupiter
dave weil wrote in message . ..
On Wed, 8 Oct 2003 18:36:34 -0700, "ScottW" wrote: Because, despite what Arnold and Mike have said (and yes, even the Devil), they ARE NOT mediocre speakers in the least. They do FAR more things right than they do wrong. And that puts them ahead of many commercial designs. Name some comparably priced speakers currently on the market that you think are inferior to the Jupiters, please. I didn't mention price. Ok, so they're better than a pair of free PC speakers they give away. That says a lot. You're refusal to address this aspect, are they a good value or are they not, is a clear implication they are not. The fact that you won't just come out and say it also implies that you're afraid of Trotsky. ScottW |
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Question for Gregipus.
Scottieborg gurgled: You're refusal Gregipus, aren't you appalled that Scottie is supporting your "opinions" about language abuse? |
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Question about Jupiter
ScottW48 wrote:
dave weil wrote in message ... On Wed, 8 Oct 2003 18:36:34 -0700, "ScottW" wrote: Because, despite what Arnold and Mike have said (and yes, even the Devil), they ARE NOT mediocre speakers in the least. They do FAR more things right than they do wrong. And that puts them ahead of many commercial designs. Name some comparably priced speakers currently on the market that you think are inferior to the Jupiters, please. I didn't mention price. Ok, so they're better than a pair of free PC speakers they give away. That says a lot. You're refusal to address this aspect, are they a good value or are they not, is a clear implication they are not. The fact that you won't just come out and say it also implies that you're afraid of Trotsky. ScottW Aw, c'mon . How could anybody be afraid of an irrational shill like trotsky? Singh is just trying to use RAO to defraud the public. Bruce J. Richman |
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Question about Jupiter
ScottW wrote: dave weil wrote in message . .. On Wed, 8 Oct 2003 18:36:34 -0700, "ScottW" wrote: Because, despite what Arnold and Mike have said (and yes, even the Devil), they ARE NOT mediocre speakers in the least. They do FAR more things right than they do wrong. And that puts them ahead of many commercial designs. Name some comparably priced speakers currently on the market that you think are inferior to the Jupiters, please. I didn't mention price. Ok, so they're better than a pair of free PC speakers they give away. That says a lot. You're refusal to address this aspect, are they a good value or are they not, is a clear implication they are not. The fact that you won't just come out and say it also implies that you're afraid of Trotsky. That's pretty lame, Scottie, even by your ultra-low standards. |
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Question for Gregipus.
George M. Middius wrote: Scottieborg gurgled: You're refusal Gregipus, aren't you appalled that Scottie is supporting your "opinions" about language abuse? You're making progress, George: at least you're not trying to discuss audio anymore. |
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Question for Gregipus.
trotsky said: Gregipus, aren't you appalled that Scottie is supporting your "opinions" about language abuse? You're Inability to answer the question noted. Correct use of apostrophe noted. Lack of abatement in irrational impulse-response behavior noted. |
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Question about Jupiter
"dave weil" wrote in message ... On 9 Oct 2003 10:48:28 -0700, (ScottW) wrote: dave weil wrote in message . .. On Wed, 8 Oct 2003 18:36:34 -0700, "ScottW" wrote: Because, despite what Arnold and Mike have said (and yes, even the Devil), they ARE NOT mediocre speakers in the least. They do FAR more things right than they do wrong. And that puts them ahead of many commercial designs. Name some comparably priced speakers currently on the market that you think are inferior to the Jupiters, please. I didn't mention price. Ok, so they're better than a pair of free PC speakers they give away. That says a lot. You're refusal to address this aspect, are they a good value or are they not, is a clear implication they are not. The fact that you won't just come out and say it also implies that you're afraid of Trotsky. No, I'm waiting for you to reframe the question in the context in which I made the original statement. Name a current commercial design they are "ahead of". What are their retail price? Name a current commercial design they are not "ahead of"? What are their retail price? Honestly Dave, you're coming out of this looking like you're afraid Trots is going to pull his advertising dollars from your budding audio publication. ScottW |
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Question about Jupiter
On Thu, 9 Oct 2003 15:27:09 -0700, "ScottW"
wrote: "dave weil" wrote in message .. . On 9 Oct 2003 10:48:28 -0700, (ScottW) wrote: dave weil wrote in message ... On Wed, 8 Oct 2003 18:36:34 -0700, "ScottW" wrote: Because, despite what Arnold and Mike have said (and yes, even the Devil), they ARE NOT mediocre speakers in the least. They do FAR more things right than they do wrong. And that puts them ahead of many commercial designs. Name some comparably priced speakers currently on the market that you think are inferior to the Jupiters, please. I didn't mention price. Ok, so they're better than a pair of free PC speakers they give away. That says a lot. You're refusal to address this aspect, are they a good value or are they not, is a clear implication they are not. The fact that you won't just come out and say it also implies that you're afraid of Trotsky. No, I'm waiting for you to reframe the question in the context in which I made the original statement. Name a current commercial design they are "ahead of". What are their retail price? Ahead of. That's an interesting twist on what I said. Why? Because of the subjective nature of speakers. What I find "wrong" in a speaker might not be as important to someone else. For instance, we all know that some people prize midrange above everything. Others need deep bass. others are willing to compromise a single swatch of bandwidth attain a more "benign" "balanced" (if you will) approach. So, I will comment with those caveats, knowing of course that you aren't really all that interested in what I have to say. Some speakers I have recently heard that I think do things "more wrong" than the Europas a Infinity Alpha 20s, 40s. Don't know the prices. PSB Alpha T Price? Dunno. Some huge DynAudio Speakers that cost DM100,000. Don't know the model number. they had "bigger bass" though (chuckle) The old Kappa Series of Infinity (haven't heard the new series). Magnapan MMGs and 1.6s. Those are a few speakers that I've heard recently that would take a back seat to the Europas. If you don't think that I could walk into a Best Buy or Circuit City and find *anything* that was as pleasing as the Europas, I think you're just nuts. That's a whole range of stuff, right? I'm sorry if I didn't mention pet favorites like Splendor and Harbeth and Tannoy, but I haven't heard any of those (Tannoy I haven't heard in years). From my days with Mission and other British speakers (which I had exposure to in the late 80s because of AR marketing a "British/Euro" series called the Spirits and i was repping them on the German market) I wasn't all that impressed with smaller British monitors for the most part. A small speaker that sadly isn't available anymore that I thought would probably be somewhat close in "not doing things wrong" would be a little speaker that Denon marketed at the end of the 80s and marketed in Europe. It was a two way system and was actually made by the German company HECO. A remarkable little speaker that cost something like DM450 a pr (or about $200 or so). I don't know what made that speaker so darned good, but it was nice. It dwouldn't go that deep in the bass either. I doubt that this commentary will satisfy you, but there you go. Name a current commercial design they are not "ahead of"? What are their retail price? Honestly Dave, you're coming out of this looking like you're afraid Trots is going to pull his advertising dollars from your budding audio publication. Honestly Scott, you pose a question that suddenly imposes condtions that I didn't address and you're surprised that I don't answer? Keep your snideness to yourself next time. Honestly, I hope that you're not this way when Marc and Art come to visit. |
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Question about Jupiter
"dave weil" wrote in message news On Thu, 9 Oct 2003 15:27:09 -0700, "ScottW" wrote: "dave weil" wrote in message .. . On 9 Oct 2003 10:48:28 -0700, (ScottW) wrote: dave weil wrote in message ... On Wed, 8 Oct 2003 18:36:34 -0700, "ScottW" wrote: Because, despite what Arnold and Mike have said (and yes, even the Devil), they ARE NOT mediocre speakers in the least. They do FAR more things right than they do wrong. And that puts them ahead of many commercial designs. Name some comparably priced speakers currently on the market that you think are inferior to the Jupiters, please. I didn't mention price. Ok, so they're better than a pair of free PC speakers they give away. That says a lot. You're refusal to address this aspect, are they a good value or are they not, is a clear implication they are not. The fact that you won't just come out and say it also implies that you're afraid of Trotsky. No, I'm waiting for you to reframe the question in the context in which I made the original statement. Name a current commercial design they are "ahead of". What are their retail price? Ahead of. They were your specific words. That's an interesting twist on what I said. Why? Because of the subjective nature of speakers. What I find "wrong" in a speaker might not be as important to someone else. For instance, we all know that some people prize midrange above everything. Others need deep bass. others are willing to compromise a single swatch of bandwidth attain a more "benign" "balanced" (if you will) approach. So, I will comment with those caveats, knowing of course that you aren't really all that interested in what I have to say. Some speakers I have recently heard that I think do things "more wrong" than the Europas a Infinity Alpha 20s, 40s. Don't know the prices. 20s are 350/pr and 40s are 500/pr according to Infinity PSB Alpha T Price? Dunno. 192/pr Some huge DynAudio Speakers that cost DM100,000. Don't know the model number. they had "bigger bass" though (chuckle) The old Kappa Series of Infinity (haven't heard the new series). The whole series? The 600s are 3 way floorstanders. The others are far less expensive. Magnapan MMGs and 1.6s. MMGs are 550. Are you sure about 1.6s? Those do some things pretty well. Those are a few speakers that I've heard recently that would take a back seat to the Europas. If you don't think that I could walk into a Best Buy or Circuit City and find *anything* that was as pleasing as the Europas, I think you're just nuts. That's a whole range of stuff, right? Hmmm..... So Best Buy and Circuit City have competitive stuff. I'm sure you just made Trots day. I'm sorry if I didn't mention pet favorites like Splendor and Harbeth and Tannoy, but I haven't heard any of those (Tannoy I haven't heard in years). From my days with Mission and other British speakers (which I had exposure to in the late 80s because of AR marketing a "British/Euro" series called the Spirits and i was repping them on the German market) I wasn't all that impressed with smaller British monitors for the most part. A small speaker that sadly isn't available anymore that I thought would probably be somewhat close in "not doing things wrong" would be a little speaker that Denon marketed at the end of the 80s and marketed in Europe. It was a two way system and was actually made by the German company HECO. A remarkable little speaker that cost something like DM450 a pr (or about $200 or so). I don't know what made that speaker so darned good, but it was nice. It dwouldn't go that deep in the bass either. I doubt that this commentary will satisfy you, but there you go. Name a current commercial design they are not "ahead of"? What are their retail price? Honestly Dave, you're coming out of this looking like you're afraid Trots is going to pull his advertising dollars from your budding audio publication. Honestly Scott, you pose a question that suddenly imposes condtions that I didn't address and you're surprised that I don't answer? Keep your snideness to yourself next time. Why? You sure don't. Honestly, I hope that you're not this way when Marc and Art come to visit. You're not Marc or Art. But if you showed up on my door, I would show you some hospitality. Even if I still had to tell you things you don't like hearing - like the truth or my opinion. Deal with it. |
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Question about Jupiter
On Thu, 09 Oct 2003 18:03:23 -0500, dave weil
wrote: Magnapan MMGs and 1.6s. Are you sure about the 1.6s? I would be genuinely amazed if you actually meant to say that model. -- td |
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Question about Jupiter
The Devil said: Magnapan MMGs and 1.6s. Are you sure about the 1.6s? I would be genuinely amazed if you actually meant to say that model. Gregipus says your -- er, you're -- wrists are limp. |
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The Devil wrote: On Thu, 09 Oct 2003 18:03:23 -0500, dave weil wrote: Magnapan MMGs and 1.6s. Are you sure about the 1.6s? I would be genuinely amazed if you actually meant to say that model. Trouble in paradise, Dev? |
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Question about Jupiter
On Thu, 09 Oct 2003 20:30:55 -0400, George M. Middius
wrote: Magnapan MMGs and 1.6s. Are you sure about the 1.6s? I would be genuinely amazed if you actually meant to say that model. Gregipus says your -- er, you're -- wrists are limp. They are when I'm asleep. -- td |
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Question about Jupiter
On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 00:33:17 GMT, trotsky wrote:
Are you sure about the 1.6s? I would be genuinely amazed if you actually meant to say that model. Trouble in paradise, Dev? Not at all. If these speakers really do stack up against the 1.6s, I would be inclined to think that was a genuinely magnificent achievement on the part of Madisound. And to think that they accomplished that sort of performance for just $400. Marvelous! -- td |
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Question about Jupiter
On Thu, 9 Oct 2003 16:43:15 -0700, "ScottW"
wrote: Are you sure about 1.6s? Those do some things pretty well. Yes. Your second statement shows that you aren't asking the right questions. Most speakers do "some" things pretty well. Hell, even your Quads are bested in a few areas by far cheaper speakers. That doesn't mean that the cheaper speakers are 'better". The fact that you don't get this speaks volumes. |
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On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 01:13:12 +0100, The Devil wrote:
On Thu, 09 Oct 2003 18:03:23 -0500, dave weil wrote: Magnapan MMGs and 1.6s. Are you sure about the 1.6s? I would be genuinely amazed if you actually meant to say that model. Nope. I meant to say that model. |
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On Thu, 9 Oct 2003 16:43:15 -0700, "ScottW"
wrote: Name a current commercial design they are "ahead of". What are their retail price? Ahead of. They were your specific words. Yes, without the context. |
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On Thu, 9 Oct 2003 16:43:15 -0700, "ScottW"
wrote: You're not Marc or Art. But if you showed up on my door, I would show you some hospitality. Even if I still had to tell you things you don't like hearing - like the truth or my opinion. Two mutually exclusive things, right? Seriously, I doubt that you'd have the discourtesy to "tell me things I don't like hearing". I'm quite sure that you're far more puffed up here than you are in real life. |
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On Thu, 9 Oct 2003 16:43:15 -0700, "ScottW"
wrote: If you don't think that I could walk into a Best Buy or Circuit City and find *anything* that was as pleasing as the Europas, I think you're just nuts. That's a whole range of stuff, right? Hmmm..... So Best Buy and Circuit City have competitive stuff. I'm sure you just made Trots day. Is there any reason for you to be deceptive? |
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Question about Jupiter
dave weil said: Seriously, I doubt that you'd have the discourtesy to "tell me things I don't like hearing". I'm quite sure that you're far more puffed up here than you are in real life. So Scottie is acting out his resentment against his boss? Or maybe his mommy..... |
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Question about Jupiter
On Thu, 09 Oct 2003 19:49:40 -0500, dave weil
wrote: Magnapan MMGs and 1.6s. Are you sure about the 1.6s? I would be genuinely amazed if you actually meant to say that model. Nope. I meant to say that model. Interesting. What do the Madisound speakers do better than the 1.6s? -- td |
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