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In , Margaret von B. wrote :
Lionel_Chapuis wrote in message ... "Margaret von B." wrote: Ah, it is Arny's self-appointed little gerbil. :-) You prefer to be an hypocrit old whore, eh "Margaret" ? squeak squeak squeak :-) :-D Margaret |
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whosbest54 wrote: In article , says... Here's a working link: http://www.enjoythemusic.com/hifi200...onkrueger.html This is all I've seen of the debate other than the posts to this thread. If there will be audio or video posted to this site, that would be nice. As I wrote in another posting, the audio recording of the debate will be available some time in the next week as a streamed file. Arny has already assured me that he trsuts me not to change anything in the mastering of the file. However, I am sending him the original AIF file so he can compare what we make available on the Stereophile website with the original. John, I suggest you correct the spelling of Arny's first name in the text. I haven't yet published anything on the debate, so have nothing to correct. Please be assured that when I do, Arny's name will be correctly spelled. And as one of the participants, I don't think it appropriate for Arny or me to write any comments. I will leave that to members of the audience. I am sorry about the misspelling of Arny's name. I had registered him at the Show as "Arnold Krueger," so I do not know why his name tag said anything different. Put it down to brain fade on the part of our hard-working event staff. John Atkinson Editor, Stereophile |
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plonk this, Richie.......
"Richard" wrote But it wasn't broken when it was first posted - was it, Richard? You have a thing for Arny Krueger? I can only tell you that, for whatever reason, it did not work for me yesterday and that is a fact. Yesterday isn't when it was first posted, dim. It worked when it was first posted. But you chose to buddy up with Arny. Good choice. Exactly what kind of "thing" would you be referring to Tom or is this some kind of homophobic reference? If that is the case, it says volumes about your character and mental state. You're full of ****, richie. "Thing" could mean a number of different things. But you chose to infer a homosexual thing. I guess that says volumes about you. |
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Arny Krueger wrote:
EddieM wrote: Victor Martell" wrote Could you be so kind as to post a blow by blow of the proceedings? http://www.enjoythemusic.com/hifi200...onkreuger.html Eddie can't get *anything* right, even the simplist thing. Here's a working link: http://www.enjoythemusic.com/hifi200...onkrueger.html The first link WAS correct though it was MY FAULT as i, in an honest error, misspelt Arnie's last name. So i made the appropriate corrections that were needed in the original file. Please accept my apology for the error on my part. The picture of me in question was no doubt taken during Harry Lavo's 108 minute, more or less, marathon declaration-of-his-beliefs-about-audio-life-God-and-the-meaning-of-soy -sauce, which he tried to pass off as a question. Why Atkinson didn't stop him I know not. Harry is an even bigger boor and bore in person than he is on RAHE. ;-( Agreed his question was VERY long-winded. The photo was taken at the very beginning of the debate (i was the person in the red shirt in the front row just in front of you). Enjoy the Music, Steven R. Rochlin www.EnjoyTheMusic.com |
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Arny Krueger wrote: It's possible that the earlier link worked - if the Enjoythemusic author couldn't properly spell my name right the first time. It has happened. Note that despite my attempts with John to get my first name spelled "Arny", my name-card at the debate was misspelled. Will correct the first name error on the website right now. Was going by your Stereophile show name card. You are 100% correct about my previous last name error and made the correction. Excellent observation. Enjoy the Music, Steven R. Rochlin www.EnjoyTheMusic.com |
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whosbest54 wrote: In article .com, says... whosbest54 wrote: John, I suggest you correct the spelling of Arny's first name in the text. I haven't yet published anything on the debate, so have nothing to correct. Please be assured that when I do, Arny's name will be correctly spelled. based on the content of the site I give the URL for below, I had assumed you had control over the text posted there. No, there is no connection between Stephen Rochlin's "Enjoy the Music" audio webzine and Stereophile. It seems to say that the organization responsible for the site had something to do with hosting the debate. If I was mistaken, I apologize. http://www.enjoythemusic.com/hifi200...onkrueger.html No apology necessary. The debate was hosted by Stereophile at Primedia's just-finished Home Entertainment 2005 Show in Manhattan. We unfortuantely spelled Arny as "Arnie" on the tent card on the presenter's table. Stephen attended the debate as an independent member of the press and posted his comments at his own website. As I said, the audio recording of the debate -- including Arny's version of the "scream heard around the world" -- will be made available at www.stereophile.com in the near future. John Atkinson Editor, Stereophile |
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John Atkinson wrote: whosbest54 wrote: No, there is no connection between Stephen Rochlin's "Enjoy the Music" audio webzine and Stereophile. Agreed, there is no connection. FYI: got a :-) as my first name is spelt Steven Hey, this is great! For the first time in many years i am getting joy and a :-) from RAO. BTW: JA, enjoyed listening to your jazz trio's wonderful musicianship this afternoon during the show. Enjoy the Music, Stephen, er, um, Steven R. Rochlin www.EnjoyTheMusic.com |
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Richard wrote: "Arny Krueger" wrote: Note that despite my attempts with John to get my first name spelled "Arny", my name-card at the debate was misspelled. Please note that there were no "attempts." Arny brought the unfortunate misspelling to my attention when I entered the venue. I apologized and Arny said it was not a big deal. I thought that would be the end of the matter. I am also surprised to hear that someone of John Atkinson's stature was not together enough to provide promised equipment for the presentation. If you read my explanation elsewhere in this thread, you will have seen that Murphy's Law struck with a vengeance, taking out both the supplied PC and the backup. Arny could have used my own laptop for his presentation, but at the possible expense of the promised recording. I explained what had happened, in the spirit of "the show must go on," Arny said he would read from printouts of his Powerpoint slide show, and we went ahead rather than keep the audience waiting any longer. I regret these two errors, of course, but please note that everything else to do with the logistics of Arny Krueger's presentation in New York appeared to go as planned. John Atkinson Editor, Stereophile |
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wrote: John Atkinson wrote: there is no connection between Stephen Rochlin's "Enjoy the Music" audio webzine and Stereophile. Agreed, there is no connection. FYI: got a :-) as my first name is spelt Steven Oh ****! Sorry Steven, I have just been copy-editing Stephen Mejias' Day 4 on-line report from the Show and confused my "v"s and "ph"es. :-( JA, enjoyed listening to your jazz trio's wonderful musicianship this afternoon during the show. Thanks Steven. I kid my bosses that the real reason Stereophile does a Show is to give my band a gig once a year :-) But we did have some other great live music this year, though I still don't fully get what Medeski Martin + Wood are about. I thought I saw Arny and Tom Nousaine taking in their concert, BTW. John Atkinson Editor, Stereophile |
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Michael Conzo said:
This, along with your failure to stop the Harry Lavo filibuster, showed incredible bias and abuse of Mr. Krueger in my opinion. It wasn't necessary to pay equal respect to the audience, for they didn't come to hear nonsensical audience abuse of Mr. krueger. And your lack of proper preparation for Mr. Krueger's side of the debate made the effort clearly biased by Stereophile. Any competent engineer tests his gear in situ before a big gig. Your failures in this regard are frankly inexcusable. But completely expected. |
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John Atkinson said: I regret these two errors, of course, but please note that everything else to do with the logistics of Arny Krueger's presentation in New York appeared to go as planned. I thought the plan was for Arnii's head to explode. ;-) |
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Hi Everyone,
Ok, now that i have corrected the name spelling error (apologies to all and was quite surprised there was so much debate about it and slings/arrows thrown), how about we get back to the main subject at hand? Arny did indeed appear to be less hostile in person. Found this to be refreshing as the debate appeared to generally STAY ON TOPIC AND FOLLOW A NATURAL PROGRESSION. As someone who once truly enjoyed RAO many years ago, this newsgroups appears to have really degraded. The arguing about spelling errors, the constant name calling, and personal attacks that have nothing to do with the topic/subject at hand is quite childish. Would truly enjoy seeing RAO circa 2000 or so, though that time has long since past (am referring also to pre Zipser). So the blow by blow i posted was as fast as i could type and comprehend without any topic/subject changing editorial. It appears neither JA nor AK disagree with what was typed by yours truly. While i am leaving for Munich shortly and may not be able to post here to fully follow this thread each day, my hopes are that my posting may help to bring a sense of "Ok, Steven of Enjoy the Music.com made an honest mistake and we should try to make sure it is properly corrected." There is no need to call each other names or make personal attacks about it. Could we please, with sugar on top and a cherry, find a way to bring RAO's S/N level to more signal? Debates such as JA vs. AK is a good thing. It showed that two adults can debate without name calling, personal attacks, etc. If we could apply this same professionalism here on RAO it would probably be greatly appreciated by many others. Please feel free to look at RAO's archives and see how it was in the early days. Wish everyone here all the very best and hope this post will, in some small way, help others to see we truly could use more signal. Different opinions are fine, provided they are debated in an adult manner. IMHO JA and AK proved that at the PRIMEDIA (Stereophile) show. Enjoy the Music, Steven R. Rochlin www.EnjoyTheMusic.com |
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"John Atkinson" wrote in message oups.com... As I said, the audio recording of the debate -- including Arny's version of the "scream heard around the world" -- will be made available at www.stereophile.com in the near future. Gov. Dean was there? ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
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John Atkinson wrote: Oh f--k! Sorry Steven, I have just been copy-editing Stephen Mejias' Day 4 on-line report from the Show and confused my "v"s and "ph"es. :-( Totally fine, no worries. Have done the SAME thing myself when editing articles. When writing for a European magazine, then for my US publication, i fine it favourable to remember which target country colours and the proper English employed accordingly Been a long time since i have really participated here on RAO. This is as good a time as any Thanks Steven. I kid my bosses that the real reason Stereophile does a Show is to give my band a gig once a year :-) But we did have some other great live music this year, though I still don't fully get what Medeski Martin + Wood are about. Agreed some music i simply do not fully understand. The first time i heard King Crimson in the early 1980's... Now i love those (now old) recordings. Enjoy the Music, Steven R. Rochlin www.EnjoyTheMusic.com |
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"Lionel" wrote in message ... Robert Morein a écrit : "Michael Conzo" wrote in message ... In article , "John Atkinson" wrote: That was my fault. To save Mr. Krueger the inconvenience of having to bring a PC, I had arranged to use one of my company's laptops. Unfortunately, the Windows password had been changed, I had not been given the new one, and my division's IT rep was on vacation. Wes Phillips offered his iBook for Arny to use, but we did not have a VGA adaptor for that computer's video output. This, along with your failure to stop the Harry Lavo filibuster, showed incredible bias and abuse of Mr. Krueger in my opinion. "Michael Conzo" is actually Brian L. McCarty. I advise everyone to avoid interaction with this person. His history on usenet is unsavory, and involves harassment of others on usenet by identity theft, as well as websites that may have been attempts at investment fraud. We are on RAO Bob !!! Lionel, McCarty is not like us. His activities have in the past had the appearance of investment fraud. His website, "Coral Sea Studios", was at one time populated by many false endorsements, including my name. His "worldjazz" website used fictitious front people and stolen identities from unsuspecting people. I have copies of these pages. Many people suspect him of email "bombing" and propagation of computer viruses. The FBI determined that he used a false identity to infiltrate a film project I was running. Charges were presented by the FBI to the U.S. Attorney's office, District of Connecticut. At the time, they chose not to prosecute. However, this is a discretionary choice of the U.S. Attorney's office, even if he may have violated statutes. The records of the investigation remain in the records of the FBI, available by subpoena to anyone who wishes to file a civil suit against him. Last fall, there was intervention at the level of "head of state" to stop McCarty's schemes. This appears to have succeeded. There is no one like McCarty on this group. Everyone I know and argue with on rao is, IMHO, a good and upstanding citizen. This includes Arny. I may argue with Arny, and my ridicule may be harsh, but he is someone who I would change a tire for. As I would for anyone else. I urge that we not give McCarty or his sockpuppets the legitimacy he desires. He is not a good man. |
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"Robert Morein" wrote in message ... may argue with Arny, and my ridicule may be harsh, but he is someone who I would change a tire for. I would present him with a nice necklace. ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
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Arny Krueger wrote EddieM wrote: How did you prepared in as far as flexing some muscles for this Debate? Like I said, I had a plan A and a plan B. Plan B worked and that was that. My major problem was staying awake while Atkinson, Fremer and others recounted what should have been forgotten memories of what should have been their audio childhood. Thanks for your reply Mr. Krueger. Just as every audiophiles accross audio newsgroups, I shall look forward to the recorded event of the Debate on-line courtesy of the Stereophile organization. Good thing this time, we won't have to be concern with unintentional misspellings. |
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wrote in message oups.com... Hi Everyone, Ok, now that i have corrected the name spelling error (apologies to all and was quite surprised there was so much debate about it and slings/arrows thrown), how about we get back to the main subject at hand? Arny did indeed appear to be less hostile in person. Found this to be refreshing as the debate appeared to generally STAY ON TOPIC AND FOLLOW A NATURAL PROGRESSION. As someone who once truly enjoyed RAO many years ago, this newsgroups appears to have really degraded. The arguing about spelling errors, the constant name calling, and personal attacks that have nothing to do with the topic/subject at hand is quite childish. Would truly enjoy seeing RAO circa 2000 or so, though that time has long since past (am referring also to pre Zipser). So the blow by blow i posted was as fast as i could type and comprehend without any topic/subject changing editorial. It appears neither JA nor AK disagree with what was typed by yours truly. While i am leaving for Munich shortly and may not be able to post here to fully follow this thread each day, my hopes are that my posting may help to bring a sense of "Ok, Steven of Enjoy the Music.com made an honest mistake and we should try to make sure it is properly corrected." There is no need to call each other names or make personal attacks about it. Could we please, with sugar on top and a cherry, find a way to bring RAO's S/N level to more signal? Debates such as JA vs. AK is a good thing. It showed that two adults can debate without name calling, personal attacks, etc. I'm sure you mean well Stephan but the truth is that it was not informative, it was not stimulating and it was certainly not entertaining. In fact it was a major snoozefest. Even the Toney vs. Ruiz that I attended on Saturday night was more of a surprise than the so called "debate". If you know anything about boxing, it was Ruiz vs. Ruiz kind of matchup. If we could apply this same professionalism here on RAO it would probably be greatly appreciated by many others. A good idea Stephane but there are too many folks here who have no other content in their lives and no other avenues to feel their power. Please feel free to look at RAO's archives and see how it was in the early days. Wish everyone here all the very best and hope this post will, in some small way, help others to see we truly could use more signal. Different opinions are fine, provided they are debated in an adult manner. IMHO JA and AK proved that at the PRIMEDIA (Stereophile) show. The mayoral race here in San Antonio is 1000 times more interesting. Enjoy the Music, Steven R. Rochlin www.EnjoyTheMusic.com What do you have against the late Mr. Zipser, Mr. Rocklin? I never had the pleasure of knowing him but in retrospect he was truly a witty and acerbicly funny man. Men like that are extinct here these days. Sorry but I just cannot agree with you except on one point. RAO really sucks because audio is only an excuse to promote some of the most pathetic stuff on God's green earth. Like one dorj named Festler and his plagiarized ramblings that got him "published". But some people just love to be caned I guess. Have a safe trip to Munich Stephanie! |
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Clyde Slick wrote:
Robert Morein wrote: may argue with Arny, and my ridicule may be harsh, but he is someone who I would change a tire for. I would present him with a nice necklace. A Colombian necktie to precede the tire necklace for 'Conzo' McLardo? GeoSynch |
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"Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... EddieM wrote: Arny Krueger wrote EddieM wrote: Victor Martell wrote Could you be so kind as to post a blow by blow of the proceedings? Eddie can't get *anything* right, even the simplist thing. It worked last night. So you say. Here's a working link: http://www.enjoythemusic.com/hifi200...onkrueger.html The picture of me in question was no doubt taken during Harry Lavo's 108 minute, more or less, marathon declaration-of-his-beliefs-about-audio-life-God-and-the-meaning-of-soy -sauce, which he tried to pass off as a question. Why Atkinson didn't stop him I know not. Harry is an even bigger boor and bore in person than he is on RAHE. ;-( On second thought, maybe Atkinson needed the comic relief that Harry's blather provided. Harry kept me from making a couple of critical points, and Atkinson needed any help he could get. Is THAT what happened, Mr. Deer-in-the-Headlights? :-) :-) :-) In fact Atkinson had you in his crosshairs most of the time but being either a merciful or timid hunter did not pull the trigger, Mr. Deer. I read that your powerpoint presentation got bungled up, what was that all about? Atkinson promised me a working computer and projector. He was a standard video interconnect cable short of a working set. I manage a bunch of video projectors at my church WOW! I did not know you had a managerial background. Be sure to include it in your resume. - that exact cable accompanies every projector that needs it and I have a spare on hand. Organizing the Stereophile show is certainly nothing compared to that. Verrry impressive! As improvrished as the show was for presentation technology - someone probably stole the cable. I wondered what that was in Nousiaine's pants. I thought maybe he was just happy to be with you. LOL! Atkinson was a no-show with the promised presentation technology. He seemed to leave everything to the last minute. He apologized but he screwed up because he did not have his act together. I agree. Atkinson should have clearly employed your extensive management talent to pull off the show. Stuff happens. The presentation infrastructure failure was not a major bump in my road. It was not unexpected. I already had working plan "B" ready to execute. I executed it and moved on. Too bad it wasn't apparent to the audience. Unless it was your "scared ostrich" technique. You still have sand in your ears? My plan "B" was to install the Powerpoint Viewer on the PC in the press room and run it off so I still had something to speak from. I knew I was in the back woods of presentation technology when I saw that neither Powerpoint nor anything like it was already on that computer. But, I was prepared, I brought my own copy of Powerpoint on my USB flash drive. I consider PowerPoint and Word to be part of the minimal configuration of a business computer. I don't blame Atkinson - the whole show was a major disappointment to me, based on exactly what failed him, on the grounds of presentation technology. So, the gross failure of Atkinson's presentation technology was just a reflection of the backwards context he was working in. You blended in that context exceedingly well, I might add. Back on the topic of audio, I heard a lot of really bad-sounding crap masquerading as audio gear. For example the Bosendorfer speakers were really horrid, but nobody seems to have the guts to say so, right out. Also, it's really pathetic to see so many people trying to wring something new out of a 6 1/2 woofer and a dome tweeter and still get it wrong. I had never heard a modern SET, so I was unprepared for how horrid they sound with the more complex music. There's a reason why almost every SET demo I heard was based on a recording of a solo or a very small group - when somone screwed up and played something a tiny bit complex the SETs I heard (and I think I visited *every* room) tended to load up with grunge on massed instruments and voices. The fact that so many worship at this phoney altar of Luddite SET technology is a testimonial to the fact that many high enders apparently don't really listen to gear like us DBT folks do. Frankly, faced with a choice between listening to good vinyl and your typical SET, I'd take the vinyl in a heartbeat, tics, pops, and and tracking distortion included. A companion from the BAS said that he thought he saw more SETs than ever. We agreed that this is an example of the depths that good sound at the show has sunk to. I walked into one room (I think it was Manley) and saw the glowing signs that something was probably going to be sonically awry. Instead I actually heard pretty fair sound. I looked again and noticed that the output tubes were in pairs. Huzzah, someone had rediscovered 1933 technology. Push-pull can work! Do you realize how sad this is? But far worse IMO, I saw a lot of really bad amateurish sales presentations. Most of the advertising agencies must have sent not their "A" teams but their "zzzzz" teams. If they had used high school students to run their sales presentations, there would have at least been some enthusiasm. IME some of the brighter high school students actually get AV. I'm sure AV is a piece of cake compared to managing MULTIPLE projectors at a church. How did you prepared in as far as flexing some muscles for this Debate? Like I said, I had a plan A and a plan B. Plan B worked and that was that. My major problem was staying awake while Atkinson, Fremer and others recounted what should have been forgotten memories of what should have been their audio childhood. Maybe they had happy childhoods. At least they seemed like a happy group with no chronic bitterness in them. If you look at our listening technology the PCABX and the LTT of today is not the ABX of 10 years ago. We have been refining our evaluation technology for over 30 years. High end evaluation is locked in a broken groove - nothing has changed in decades. Look in the mirror to find why your listening technology has failed. Even better, listen to the recording. What was your opponent's greatest strength? Atkinson demonstrated no strengths. He obviously had nothing of substance prepared. He looked harried and tired. His critical examples were decades old. He misstated the outcome of one of his own experiments. In that case it is pretty sad that Atkinson handily outperformed you. You never even got off the starting blocks, Mr. Projector Executive. There was a rumor that Stereophile was going to be renamed by Primedia. And, Atkinson had that master of charm - the Fremer idiot-child, on his side. Michael threw a major fit after the end of the debate. He obviously lives in the past far more than the rest. But anybody who reads his articles in SP should know that. You could use some of Fremer's qualities, you know. I know it IS sad. Well, did you had fun yesterday? I hate to see so much failure and mediocrity, even when I don't I agree with the core ideals. I'm glad it felt like home! BTW, you strongly contributed to the above climate. The Hilton is still a great venue and the hotel staff seemed to be really working hard to support the show. All of the service people I had contact in Manhattan and Queens were great. Maybe all the unfriendly New Yorkers died in 9/11, no they were innocents that can't be it. The people I met were nicer than they were the last time I stayed in Manhattan. BTW, the well-known hotel I stayed in then is no longer. I hope this does not bode ill for the Hilton. ;-) I wanted to give the vendors and their advertising agencies lots of points for professionalism and performance even though many of the products were sonic crap. I'm sure they would have appreciated your church projector executive experience. :-) But a few bright spots aside, this was a very dreary show. Can we say same-old, same-old? How's the food? Food is not a big thing in my life. I ate at a few different places that were far from the top. The food was a reasonable value, it kept me healthy and that was that. Did you met any luminaries? I met a few people I know from other Usenet groups. I met a few people from Primedia. I never really even met Atkinson. Which one did you find the most interesting? I was surprised by all the bad-sounding high-end gear and all the amateurish sales presentations and news conferences. I did learn one thing, though. After seeing a number of high end audio systems with cables the size of gas station pneumatic hoses, I figured out that they were needed to inflate the prices. I'm glad you enjoyed your trip so much. Next time don't forget to take the cross on your back. Good night, Jesus! Margaret |
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"Robert Morein" wrote in message ... "Lionel" wrote in message ... Robert Morein a écrit : "Michael Conzo" wrote in message ... In article , "John Atkinson" wrote: That was my fault. To save Mr. Krueger the inconvenience of having to bring a PC, I had arranged to use one of my company's laptops. Unfortunately, the Windows password had been changed, I had not been given the new one, and my division's IT rep was on vacation. Wes Phillips offered his iBook for Arny to use, but we did not have a VGA adaptor for that computer's video output. This, along with your failure to stop the Harry Lavo filibuster, showed incredible bias and abuse of Mr. Krueger in my opinion. "Michael Conzo" is actually Brian L. McCarty. I advise everyone to avoid interaction with this person. His history on usenet is unsavory, and involves harassment of others on usenet by identity theft, as well as websites that may have been attempts at investment fraud. We are on RAO Bob !!! Lionel, McCarty is not like us. His activities have in the past had the appearance of investment fraud. His website, "Coral Sea Studios", was at one time populated by many false endorsements, including my name. His "worldjazz" website used fictitious front people and stolen identities from unsuspecting people. I have copies of these pages. Many people suspect him of email "bombing" and propagation of computer viruses. The FBI determined that he used a false identity to infiltrate a film project I was running. Charges were presented by the FBI to the U.S. Attorney's office, District of Connecticut. At the time, they chose not to prosecute. However, this is a discretionary choice of the U.S. Attorney's office, even if he may have violated statutes. The records of the investigation remain in the records of the FBI, available by subpoena to anyone who wishes to file a civil suit against him. Last fall, there was intervention at the level of "head of state" to stop McCarty's schemes. This appears to have succeeded. There is no one like McCarty on this group. Everyone I know and argue with on rao is, IMHO, a good and upstanding citizen. This includes Arny. I may argue with Arny, and my ridicule may be harsh, but he is someone who I would change a tire for. As I would for anyone else. I agree with you Bob. I would have an exchange with a tire iron with Arnie as well. Cheers! Margaret |
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"GeoSynch" wrote in message nk.net... Clyde Slick wrote: Robert Morein wrote: may argue with Arny, and my ridicule may be harsh, but he is someone who I would change a tire for. I would present him with a nice necklace. A Colombian necktie to precede the tire necklace for 'Conzo' McLardo? GeoSynch It's mystifying why he's so addicted to sockpuppets. Even after we found out where he lives, where he works, what he owns, what land he doesn't own, and who he's tried to go into business with. Take a look at the below text version of one of his websites, "Coral Seas", on 11/12/02. At the time, I was pointing out that he was using fraudulent endorsements. It seems he wanted to show me he could get away with anything; see line 5. As for the necktie, it's not necessary. A scammer has great difficulty after he is exposed. It's like he's been sprayed in fluorescent dye. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------- PALM COVE, QUEENSLAND, AUSTRALIA "WORTH THE WAIT" Los Angeles Magazine Weekly "The First Resort Recording Facility with World Class technology AND location!" Pro Sound Asia Pacific "Tell me when you're booking - I'll be there!" Director/Producer Bob Morein BUILDING & DEVELOPMENT APPROVALS RECEIVED ACCESS ROAD OPENED - INFRASTRUCTURE UPGRADE STARTED CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT FINALISED WEBCAM TO BE ACTIVATED SHORTLY DESIGN TEAM: ACOUSTIC DESIGN GROUP (U.K.) JOHN FLYNN / SAM TOYOSHIMA TECHNICAL DESIGN: MARTIN BENGE / NEIL ALDRIDGE (MUSIC) KEN SKIMMING (FILM, TELEVISION, MULTIMEDIA) ALL ROOMS DESIGNED FOR 5.1 DIGITAL SURROUND FOR FILM, DIGITAL TELEVISION, AND MUSIC PRODUCTION EQUIPPED WITH EUPHONIX SYSTEM 5- II, DIGIDESIGN PROTOOLS HD, SSL 9000J, SONY 3348HR, ALL-FORMAT VIDEO PROJECTION, AND GENELEC MONITORING ARCHITECT VIEW OF STUDIO BUILDING - OCEANFRONT ELEVATION Founders & Directors: Brian L. McCarty & Jeffrey Wexler Asia Market Coordinattor: David C.L. Feng (Livewire Ltd. H.K.) LIVE SITECAM FEED STARTS LATE NOVEMBER Coral Sea Studios P.O. Box 31 Clifton Beach, Qld 4879 AUSTRALIA +61 (07) 4059-2888 +61 (07) 4059-2574 FAX U.S. Office +1 (310) 388-1054 NOTE: SEVERAL ATTEMPTS HAVE BEEN MADE TO "HACK" INTO THIS WEBSITE AS WELL AS ATTEMPTS AT "IDENTITY THEFT" OF SEVERAL PERSONS ASSOCIATED WITH OUR PROJECT. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE VALIDITY OF EMAIL YOU HAVE RECEIVED OR OTHER INFORMATION THAT YOU MAY SEE, PLEASE CONTACT US IMMEDIATELY. INVESTIGATIONS INTO THE PERPETRATORS IS CURRENTLY UNDERWAY. Enter a City or US Zip: Powered by: OVER VISITORS SERVED |
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"Clyde Slick" wrote in message "John Atkinson" wrote in message As I said, the audio recording of the debate -- including Arny's version of the "scream heard around the world" -- will be made available at www.stereophile.com in the near future. Gov. Dean was there? Surely you mean President Dean. |
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wrote in message But we did have some other great live music this year, though I still don't fully get what Medeski Martin + Wood are about. Agreed some music i simply do not fully understand. The first time i heard King Crimson in the early 1980's... Now i love those (now old) recordings. I lost the thread... what exactly does MMW have to do with King Crimson? |
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"Margaret von B." wrote in message
I'm sure you mean well Stephan but the truth is that it was not informative, A good idea Stephane but there are too many folks here who have no other Have a safe trip to Munich Stephanie! Were you high when you wrote this post? Or is your spelling skill, or lack thereof, inversely proportional to the length of the of the post. |
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Schizoid Man said: A good idea Stephane but there are too many folks here who have no other Have a safe trip to Munich Stephanie! Were you high when you wrote this post? Or is your spelling skill, or lack thereof, inversely proportional to the length of the of the post. Have you ever met Rochy? If so, you wouldn't be so cavalier about the virtues of artificial highs. |
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In , Margaret von B. wrote :
...too many folks here who have no other content in their lives and no other avenues to feel their power. Sure that you are speaking about George M. Middius, I'm right yes ? |
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Margaret von B. wrote
I agree with you Bob. I would have an exchange with a tire iron with Arnie as well. At least you have had a marvellous occasion to slap him in the face and what have you done ?... ....You have left the room before the end of the debate, creeping like a worm. What were you recently writing about people who "who have no other avenues to feel their power" ? |
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, Lionel_Chapuis wrote : George "Betty Boop" Middius wrote: No response from Krooger. Admission of lizardness noted. Since Jim Morrison it's not an insult anymore... major sucessful attack on your credibility, Middius. snicker Shall we compare credibility, O ****ful One? When the video comes online, we can see if your bite is as bad as your bark. How many times did you accuse JA of "fraud" to his face? Zero, you say? Why to accuse JA to be a "fraud", eh George ? ..When the debate has proven that it's true ! *Ooops* !!!! I should have written : "when the goal of the debate was to prove that it's true". Personnally I don't think that Mr Atkinson is fraud. In the world of the shoes-shinning edition, at least from a *technical* point of view, Stereophile is doing a better job than 99% of the competition. |
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In , Robert Morein wrote :
"Lionel" wrote in message ... Robert Morein a écrit : "Michael Conzo" wrote in message ... In article , "John Atkinson" wrote: That was my fault. To save Mr. Krueger the inconvenience of having to bring a PC, I had arranged to use one of my company's laptops. Unfortunately, the Windows password had been changed, I had not been given the new one, and my division's IT rep was on vacation. Wes Phillips offered his iBook for Arny to use, but we did not have a VGA adaptor for that computer's video output. This, along with your failure to stop the Harry Lavo filibuster, showed incredible bias and abuse of Mr. Krueger in my opinion. "Michael Conzo" is actually Brian L. McCarty. I advise everyone to avoid interaction with this person. His history on usenet is unsavory, and involves harassment of others on usenet by identity theft, as well as websites that may have been attempts at investment fraud. We are on RAO Bob !!! Lionel, McCarty is not like us. His activities have in the past had the appearance of investment fraud. His website, "Coral Sea Studios", was at one time populated by many false endorsements, including my name. His "worldjazz" website used fictitious front people and stolen identities from unsuspecting people. I have copies of these pages. Many people suspect him of email "bombing" and propagation of computer viruses. The FBI determined that he used a false identity to infiltrate a film project I was running. Charges were presented by the FBI to the U.S. Attorney's office, District of Connecticut. At the time, they chose not to prosecute. However, this is a discretionary choice of the U.S. Attorney's office, even if he may have violated statutes. The records of the investigation remain in the records of the FBI, available by subpoena to anyone who wishes to file a civil suit against him. Last fall, there was intervention at the level of "head of state" to stop McCarty's schemes. This appears to have succeeded. There is no one like McCarty on this group. Everyone I know and argue with on rao is, IMHO, a good and upstanding citizen. This includes Arny. I may argue with Arny, and my ridicule may be harsh, but he is someone who I would change a tire for. As I would for anyone else. I urge that we not give McCarty or his sockpuppets the legitimacy he desires. He is not a good man. Sorry Bob I forgot the duplicity of the guy. |
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In , Margaret von B. wrote :
I agree with you Bob. I would have an exchange with a tire iron with Arnie as well. At least you have had a marvellous occasion to slap him in the face and what have you done "Margaret" ?... ....You have left the room before the end of the debate, creeping like a worm. What were you recently writing about people "who have no other avenues to feel their power" ? :-) Cheers! Lionel Chapuis |
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Margaret von B. wrote:
I agree with you Bob. I would have an exchange with a tire iron with Arnie as well. Homocide becomes you, Maggie. |
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Mike McKelvy wrote:
Michael Conzo said: This, along with your failure to stop the Harry Lavo filibuster, showed incredible bias and abuse of Mr. Krueger in my opinion. It wasn't necessary to pay equal respect to the audience, for they didn't come to hear nonsensical audience abuse of Mr. krueger. And your lack of proper preparation for Mr. Krueger's side of the debate made the effort clearly biased by Stereophile. Any competent engineer tests his gear in situ before a big gig. Your failures in this regard are frankly inexcusable. But completely expected. Agreed. I saw this all coming and prepared for it the best I could. |
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The Krooborg puns itself to death. I agree with you Bob. I would have an exchange with a tire iron with Arnie as well. Homocide becomes you, Maggie. Thank's for admitting Mr. Krooger that, its like you know you we're lying, before, about the man in the rain-coat. LOt"S! ;-) |
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The Big **** crows about his big defeat. Agreed. I saw this all coming and prepared for it the best I could. Unfortunately for you, your entirely unscientific preparation of eating a couple extra TurdBars™ did nothing to energize your feeble mind. |
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Margaret von B. wrote: What do you have against the late Mr. Zipser, Mr. Rocklin? I never had the pleasure of knowing him but in retrospect he was truly a witty and acerbicly funny man. Steve was a fun guy and in fact we enjoyed some great meals together. In fact i hung out with him and stayed in his home in S. FL on the beach. Was simply giving a timeline. Have a safe trip to Munich Stephanie! Thanks. Wheels up in a few hours. Fun fun fun on the autobahn Enjoy the Music, Steven R. Rochlin www.EnjoyTheMusic.com |
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Schizoid Man wrote: "Margaret von B." wrote in message I'm sure you mean well Stephan but the truth is that it was not informative, A good idea Stephane but there are too many folks here who have no other Have a safe trip to Munich Stephanie! Were you high when you wrote this post? Or is your spelling skill, or lack thereof, inversely proportional to the length of the of the post. This is exactly what i mean. Ok, my name was not spelt correctly in the post and i can simply ignore it. Nothing else to see here, move along, move along Enjoy the Music, Steven R. Rochlin www.EnjoyTheMusic.com |
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Schizoid Man wrote: wrote in message But we did have some other great live music this year, though I still don't fully get what Medeski Martin + Wood are about. Agreed some music i simply do not fully understand. The first time i heard King Crimson in the early 1980's... Now i love those (now old) recordings. I lost the thread... what exactly does MMW have to do with King Crimson? You are right, we went off an a tangent. Basically we were discussing how, perhaps, we might not fully appreciate different musical genres in today's musicals atmosphere. Enjoy the Music, Steven R. Rochlin www.EnjoyTheMusic.com |
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