(Stewart Pinkerton) wrote in message


Further, Mr. Stanton is either too dishonest or too stupid to
acknowledge the fact that the models I posted that he's talking
about are electrical models for single DRIVERS, NOT for speakers.

Really? In that case, his argument is even more inept than I first
thought. I'm out of here, as I will *not* engage in debate with
someone who is fundamentally dishonest.

Mr. Stanton, you have NEVER posted ANY results. Thus, your claims
are nonsense, and your defense is simply a pack of dishonesty and
misrepresentation.

That seems to pretty well cover the situation.


That seems like a good idea! Never debate with someone who is
fundamentally dishonest. :-)

May I make another suggestion? Perhaps you should also refrain from
debating on subjects you don't fully understand.

Bob Stanton

(Stewart Pinkerton) wrote in message


Further, Mr. Stanton is either too dishonest or too stupid to
acknowledge the fact that the models I posted that he's talking
about are electrical models for single DRIVERS, NOT for speakers.

Really? In that case, his argument is even more inept than I first
thought. I'm out of here, as I will *not* engage in debate with
someone who is fundamentally dishonest.

Mr. Stanton, you have NEVER posted ANY results. Thus, your claims
are nonsense, and your defense is simply a pack of dishonesty and
misrepresentation.

That seems to pretty well cover the situation.


That seems like a good idea! Never debate with someone who is
fundamentally dishonest. :-)

May I make another suggestion? Perhaps you should also refrain from
debating on subjects you don't fully understand.

Bob Stanton

On 7 Jan 2004 03:30:02 -0800, (Bob-Stanton)
wrote:

(Stewart Pinkerton) wrote in message

Further, Mr. Stanton is either too dishonest or too stupid to
acknowledge the fact that the models I posted that he's talking
about are electrical models for single DRIVERS, NOT for speakers.

Really? In that case, his argument is even more inept than I first
thought. I'm out of here, as I will *not* engage in debate with
someone who is fundamentally dishonest.

Mr. Stanton, you have NEVER posted ANY results. Thus, your claims
are nonsense, and your defense is simply a pack of dishonesty and
misrepresentation.

That seems to pretty well cover the situation.

That seems like a good idea! Never debate with someone who is
fundamentally dishonest. :-)

May I make another suggestion? Perhaps you should also refrain from
debating on subjects you don't fully understand.

I always do, you are the one who doesn't understand that transmission
line models are utterly inappropriate for domestic audio cable.
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

On 7 Jan 2004 03:30:02 -0800, (Bob-Stanton)
wrote:

(Stewart Pinkerton) wrote in message

Further, Mr. Stanton is either too dishonest or too stupid to
acknowledge the fact that the models I posted that he's talking
about are electrical models for single DRIVERS, NOT for speakers.

Really? In that case, his argument is even more inept than I first
thought. I'm out of here, as I will *not* engage in debate with
someone who is fundamentally dishonest.

Mr. Stanton, you have NEVER posted ANY results. Thus, your claims
are nonsense, and your defense is simply a pack of dishonesty and
misrepresentation.

That seems to pretty well cover the situation.

That seems like a good idea! Never debate with someone who is
fundamentally dishonest. :-)

May I make another suggestion? Perhaps you should also refrain from
debating on subjects you don't fully understand.

I always do, you are the one who doesn't understand that transmission
line models are utterly inappropriate for domestic audio cable.
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

On 7 Jan 2004 03:30:02 -0800, (Bob-Stanton)
wrote:

(Stewart Pinkerton) wrote in message

Further, Mr. Stanton is either too dishonest or too stupid to
acknowledge the fact that the models I posted that he's talking
about are electrical models for single DRIVERS, NOT for speakers.

Really? In that case, his argument is even more inept than I first
thought. I'm out of here, as I will *not* engage in debate with
someone who is fundamentally dishonest.

Mr. Stanton, you have NEVER posted ANY results. Thus, your claims
are nonsense, and your defense is simply a pack of dishonesty and
misrepresentation.

That seems to pretty well cover the situation.

That seems like a good idea! Never debate with someone who is
fundamentally dishonest. :-)

May I make another suggestion? Perhaps you should also refrain from
debating on subjects you don't fully understand.

I always do, you are the one who doesn't understand that transmission
line models are utterly inappropriate for domestic audio cable.
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

On 7 Jan 2004 03:30:02 -0800, (Bob-Stanton)
wrote:

(Stewart Pinkerton) wrote in message

Further, Mr. Stanton is either too dishonest or too stupid to
acknowledge the fact that the models I posted that he's talking
about are electrical models for single DRIVERS, NOT for speakers.

Really? In that case, his argument is even more inept than I first
thought. I'm out of here, as I will *not* engage in debate with
someone who is fundamentally dishonest.

Mr. Stanton, you have NEVER posted ANY results. Thus, your claims
are nonsense, and your defense is simply a pack of dishonesty and
misrepresentation.

That seems to pretty well cover the situation.

That seems like a good idea! Never debate with someone who is
fundamentally dishonest. :-)

May I make another suggestion? Perhaps you should also refrain from
debating on subjects you don't fully understand.

I always do, you are the one who doesn't understand that transmission
line models are utterly inappropriate for domestic audio cable.
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

(Stewart Pinkerton) wrote in message

fully understand.

I always do, you are the one who doesn't understand that transmission
line models are utterly inappropriate for domestic audio cable.



And you are the one who doens't understand transmission line models.

Bob Stanton

(Stewart Pinkerton) wrote in message

fully understand.

I always do, you are the one who doesn't understand that transmission
line models are utterly inappropriate for domestic audio cable.



And you are the one who doens't understand transmission line models.

Bob Stanton

(Stewart Pinkerton) wrote in message

fully understand.

I always do, you are the one who doesn't understand that transmission
line models are utterly inappropriate for domestic audio cable.



And you are the one who doens't understand transmission line models.

Bob Stanton

(Stewart Pinkerton) wrote in message

fully understand.

I always do, you are the one who doesn't understand that transmission
line models are utterly inappropriate for domestic audio cable.



And you are the one who doens't understand transmission line models.

Bob Stanton

On 8 Jan 2004 03:18:58 -0800, (Bob-Stanton)
wrote:

(Stewart Pinkerton) wrote in message

fully understand.

I always do, you are the one who doesn't understand that transmission
line models are utterly inappropriate for domestic audio cable.

And you are the one who doens't understand transmission line models.

Bull****, I was using them 25 years ago, for Marconi Instruments and
then for Hughes Aircraft Company. They are utterly and completely
*useless* for speaker cable.
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

On 8 Jan 2004 03:18:58 -0800, (Bob-Stanton)
wrote:

(Stewart Pinkerton) wrote in message

fully understand.

I always do, you are the one who doesn't understand that transmission
line models are utterly inappropriate for domestic audio cable.

And you are the one who doens't understand transmission line models.

Bull****, I was using them 25 years ago, for Marconi Instruments and
then for Hughes Aircraft Company. They are utterly and completely
*useless* for speaker cable.
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

On 8 Jan 2004 03:18:58 -0800, (Bob-Stanton)
wrote:

(Stewart Pinkerton) wrote in message

fully understand.

I always do, you are the one who doesn't understand that transmission
line models are utterly inappropriate for domestic audio cable.

And you are the one who doens't understand transmission line models.

Bull****, I was using them 25 years ago, for Marconi Instruments and
then for Hughes Aircraft Company. They are utterly and completely
*useless* for speaker cable.
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

On 8 Jan 2004 03:18:58 -0800, (Bob-Stanton)
wrote:

(Stewart Pinkerton) wrote in message

fully understand.

I always do, you are the one who doesn't understand that transmission
line models are utterly inappropriate for domestic audio cable.

And you are the one who doens't understand transmission line models.

Bull****, I was using them 25 years ago, for Marconi Instruments and
then for Hughes Aircraft Company. They are utterly and completely
*useless* for speaker cable.
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

(Stewart Pinkerton) wrote in message

Bull****, I was using them 25 years ago, for Marconi Instruments and
then for Hughes Aircraft Company. They are utterly and completely
*useless* for speaker cable.

Using is not equal to understanding. You may have called up a
transmission line model, on some 25 years ago circuit analysis
program, but that doesn't mean you know how the program made it.
(Being able to switch on a light, doesn't mean that one understands
how a light circuit works.)

Bob Stanton

(Stewart Pinkerton) wrote in message

Bull****, I was using them 25 years ago, for Marconi Instruments and
then for Hughes Aircraft Company. They are utterly and completely
*useless* for speaker cable.

Using is not equal to understanding. You may have called up a
transmission line model, on some 25 years ago circuit analysis
program, but that doesn't mean you know how the program made it.
(Being able to switch on a light, doesn't mean that one understands
how a light circuit works.)

Bob Stanton

(Stewart Pinkerton) wrote in message

Bull****, I was using them 25 years ago, for Marconi Instruments and
then for Hughes Aircraft Company. They are utterly and completely
*useless* for speaker cable.

Using is not equal to understanding. You may have called up a
transmission line model, on some 25 years ago circuit analysis
program, but that doesn't mean you know how the program made it.
(Being able to switch on a light, doesn't mean that one understands
how a light circuit works.)

Bob Stanton

(Stewart Pinkerton) wrote in message

Bull****, I was using them 25 years ago, for Marconi Instruments and
then for Hughes Aircraft Company. They are utterly and completely
*useless* for speaker cable.

Using is not equal to understanding. You may have called up a
transmission line model, on some 25 years ago circuit analysis
program, but that doesn't mean you know how the program made it.
(Being able to switch on a light, doesn't mean that one understands
how a light circuit works.)

Bob Stanton

On 8 Jan 2004 19:00:01 -0800, (Bob-Stanton)
wrote:

(Stewart Pinkerton) wrote in message

Bull****, I was using them 25 years ago, for Marconi Instruments and
then for Hughes Aircraft Company. They are utterly and completely
*useless* for speaker cable.

Using is not equal to understanding.

True, as exemplified by your attempt to apply transmission line models
to speaker cable.

You may have called up a
transmission line model, on some 25 years ago circuit analysis
program, but that doesn't mean you know how the program made it.
(Being able to switch on a light, doesn't mean that one understands
how a light circuit works.)

25 years ago, I was using a slide rule, and I'm a professional
electronics engineer, so yes, I'm well aware of the underlying theory.
It is not sensibly applicable to speaker cable.
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

On 8 Jan 2004 19:00:01 -0800, (Bob-Stanton)
wrote:

(Stewart Pinkerton) wrote in message

Bull****, I was using them 25 years ago, for Marconi Instruments and
then for Hughes Aircraft Company. They are utterly and completely
*useless* for speaker cable.

Using is not equal to understanding.

True, as exemplified by your attempt to apply transmission line models
to speaker cable.

You may have called up a
transmission line model, on some 25 years ago circuit analysis
program, but that doesn't mean you know how the program made it.
(Being able to switch on a light, doesn't mean that one understands
how a light circuit works.)

25 years ago, I was using a slide rule, and I'm a professional
electronics engineer, so yes, I'm well aware of the underlying theory.
It is not sensibly applicable to speaker cable.
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

On 8 Jan 2004 19:00:01 -0800, (Bob-Stanton)
wrote:

(Stewart Pinkerton) wrote in message

Bull****, I was using them 25 years ago, for Marconi Instruments and
then for Hughes Aircraft Company. They are utterly and completely
*useless* for speaker cable.

Using is not equal to understanding.

True, as exemplified by your attempt to apply transmission line models
to speaker cable.

You may have called up a
transmission line model, on some 25 years ago circuit analysis
program, but that doesn't mean you know how the program made it.
(Being able to switch on a light, doesn't mean that one understands
how a light circuit works.)

25 years ago, I was using a slide rule, and I'm a professional
electronics engineer, so yes, I'm well aware of the underlying theory.
It is not sensibly applicable to speaker cable.
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

On 8 Jan 2004 19:00:01 -0800, (Bob-Stanton)
wrote:

(Stewart Pinkerton) wrote in message

Bull****, I was using them 25 years ago, for Marconi Instruments and
then for Hughes Aircraft Company. They are utterly and completely
*useless* for speaker cable.

Using is not equal to understanding.

True, as exemplified by your attempt to apply transmission line models
to speaker cable.

You may have called up a
transmission line model, on some 25 years ago circuit analysis
program, but that doesn't mean you know how the program made it.
(Being able to switch on a light, doesn't mean that one understands
how a light circuit works.)

25 years ago, I was using a slide rule, and I'm a professional
electronics engineer, so yes, I'm well aware of the underlying theory.
It is not sensibly applicable to speaker cable.
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

"Stewart Pinkerton" wrote in message
...
25 years ago, I was using a slide rule,

You were fairly slow to catch onto those "new fangled" calculators then :-)
30 years ago I was already using a HP35 calculator, having sold my slide
rule.

TonyP.

"Stewart Pinkerton" wrote in message
...
25 years ago, I was using a slide rule,

You were fairly slow to catch onto those "new fangled" calculators then :-)
30 years ago I was already using a HP35 calculator, having sold my slide
rule.

TonyP.

"Stewart Pinkerton" wrote in message
...
25 years ago, I was using a slide rule,

You were fairly slow to catch onto those "new fangled" calculators then :-)
30 years ago I was already using a HP35 calculator, having sold my slide
rule.

TonyP.

"Stewart Pinkerton" wrote in message
...
25 years ago, I was using a slide rule,

You were fairly slow to catch onto those "new fangled" calculators then :-)
30 years ago I was already using a HP35 calculator, having sold my slide
rule.

TonyP.

On Fri, 9 Jan 2004 21:14:31 +1100, "Tony Pearce"
wrote:


"Stewart Pinkerton" wrote in message
...
25 years ago, I was using a slide rule,

You were fairly slow to catch onto those "new fangled" calculators then :-)
30 years ago I was already using a HP35 calculator, having sold my slide
rule.

TonyP.


You've sold your slide rule? My Thornton is still sitting in front of
me at the back of my desk. I still use it sometimes to explain logs to
the new generation - the wonder in their eyes when at last they
understand them is great. I did get an HP35 when it came out though -
I'm still paying the mortgage off!

d

_____________________________

http://www.pearce.uk.com

On Fri, 9 Jan 2004 21:14:31 +1100, "Tony Pearce"
wrote:


"Stewart Pinkerton" wrote in message
...
25 years ago, I was using a slide rule,

You were fairly slow to catch onto those "new fangled" calculators then :-)
30 years ago I was already using a HP35 calculator, having sold my slide
rule.

TonyP.


You've sold your slide rule? My Thornton is still sitting in front of
me at the back of my desk. I still use it sometimes to explain logs to
the new generation - the wonder in their eyes when at last they
understand them is great. I did get an HP35 when it came out though -
I'm still paying the mortgage off!

d

_____________________________

http://www.pearce.uk.com

On Fri, 9 Jan 2004 21:14:31 +1100, "Tony Pearce"
wrote:


"Stewart Pinkerton" wrote in message
...
25 years ago, I was using a slide rule,

You were fairly slow to catch onto those "new fangled" calculators then :-)
30 years ago I was already using a HP35 calculator, having sold my slide
rule.

TonyP.


You've sold your slide rule? My Thornton is still sitting in front of
me at the back of my desk. I still use it sometimes to explain logs to
the new generation - the wonder in their eyes when at last they
understand them is great. I did get an HP35 when it came out though -
I'm still paying the mortgage off!

d

_____________________________

http://www.pearce.uk.com

On Fri, 9 Jan 2004 21:14:31 +1100, "Tony Pearce"
wrote:


"Stewart Pinkerton" wrote in message
...
25 years ago, I was using a slide rule,

You were fairly slow to catch onto those "new fangled" calculators then :-)
30 years ago I was already using a HP35 calculator, having sold my slide
rule.

TonyP.


You've sold your slide rule? My Thornton is still sitting in front of
me at the back of my desk. I still use it sometimes to explain logs to
the new generation - the wonder in their eyes when at last they
understand them is great. I did get an HP35 when it came out though -
I'm still paying the mortgage off!

d

_____________________________

http://www.pearce.uk.com

"Don Pearce" wrote in message
...
You've sold your slide rule? My Thornton is still sitting in front of
me at the back of my desk.

Yeah I sold my best one and kept my cheapie. Since it's never been out of
the case in 30 years, I'm glad I sold the other while it was still worth
something. Then again maybe there are slide rule collectors now paying silly
money?

I still use it sometimes to explain logs to
the new generation - the wonder in their eyes when at last they
understand them is great.

Isn't that what log books are for?

I did get an HP35 when it came out though -
I'm still paying the mortgage off!

I know what you mean, it took me a year to pay mine off at the time :-(
Even so I don't regret it.

TonyP.

"Don Pearce" wrote in message
...
You've sold your slide rule? My Thornton is still sitting in front of
me at the back of my desk.

Yeah I sold my best one and kept my cheapie. Since it's never been out of
the case in 30 years, I'm glad I sold the other while it was still worth
something. Then again maybe there are slide rule collectors now paying silly
money?

I still use it sometimes to explain logs to
the new generation - the wonder in their eyes when at last they
understand them is great.

Isn't that what log books are for?

I did get an HP35 when it came out though -
I'm still paying the mortgage off!

I know what you mean, it took me a year to pay mine off at the time :-(
Even so I don't regret it.

TonyP.

"Don Pearce" wrote in message
...
You've sold your slide rule? My Thornton is still sitting in front of
me at the back of my desk.

Yeah I sold my best one and kept my cheapie. Since it's never been out of
the case in 30 years, I'm glad I sold the other while it was still worth
something. Then again maybe there are slide rule collectors now paying silly
money?

I still use it sometimes to explain logs to
the new generation - the wonder in their eyes when at last they
understand them is great.

Isn't that what log books are for?

I did get an HP35 when it came out though -
I'm still paying the mortgage off!

I know what you mean, it took me a year to pay mine off at the time :-(
Even so I don't regret it.

TonyP.

"Don Pearce" wrote in message
...
You've sold your slide rule? My Thornton is still sitting in front of
me at the back of my desk.

Yeah I sold my best one and kept my cheapie. Since it's never been out of
the case in 30 years, I'm glad I sold the other while it was still worth
something. Then again maybe there are slide rule collectors now paying silly
money?

I still use it sometimes to explain logs to
the new generation - the wonder in their eyes when at last they
understand them is great.

Isn't that what log books are for?

I did get an HP35 when it came out though -
I'm still paying the mortgage off!

I know what you mean, it took me a year to pay mine off at the time :-(
Even so I don't regret it.

TonyP.

Don Pearce wrote:

On Fri, 9 Jan 2004 21:14:31 +1100, "Tony Pearce"
wrote:


"Stewart Pinkerton" wrote in message
...
25 years ago, I was using a slide rule,

You were fairly slow to catch onto those "new fangled" calculators then :-)
30 years ago I was already using a HP35 calculator, having sold my slide
rule.

TonyP.


You've sold your slide rule? My Thornton is still sitting in front of
me at the back of my desk. I still use it sometimes to explain logs to
the new generation - the wonder in their eyes when at last they
understand them is great. I did get an HP35 when it came out though -
I'm still paying the mortgage off!

I remember salivating over the HP-35 at the college bookstore in 1972.
Still remember the price-tag: $395. Everyone paid list price back then.


d

_____________________________

http://www.pearce.uk.com

Don Pearce wrote:

On Fri, 9 Jan 2004 21:14:31 +1100, "Tony Pearce"
wrote:


"Stewart Pinkerton" wrote in message
...
25 years ago, I was using a slide rule,

You were fairly slow to catch onto those "new fangled" calculators then :-)
30 years ago I was already using a HP35 calculator, having sold my slide
rule.

TonyP.


You've sold your slide rule? My Thornton is still sitting in front of
me at the back of my desk. I still use it sometimes to explain logs to
the new generation - the wonder in their eyes when at last they
understand them is great. I did get an HP35 when it came out though -
I'm still paying the mortgage off!

I remember salivating over the HP-35 at the college bookstore in 1972.
Still remember the price-tag: $395. Everyone paid list price back then.


d

_____________________________

http://www.pearce.uk.com

Don Pearce wrote:

On Fri, 9 Jan 2004 21:14:31 +1100, "Tony Pearce"
wrote:


"Stewart Pinkerton" wrote in message
...
25 years ago, I was using a slide rule,

You were fairly slow to catch onto those "new fangled" calculators then :-)
30 years ago I was already using a HP35 calculator, having sold my slide
rule.

TonyP.


You've sold your slide rule? My Thornton is still sitting in front of
me at the back of my desk. I still use it sometimes to explain logs to
the new generation - the wonder in their eyes when at last they
understand them is great. I did get an HP35 when it came out though -
I'm still paying the mortgage off!

I remember salivating over the HP-35 at the college bookstore in 1972.
Still remember the price-tag: $395. Everyone paid list price back then.


d

_____________________________

http://www.pearce.uk.com

Don Pearce wrote:

On Fri, 9 Jan 2004 21:14:31 +1100, "Tony Pearce"
wrote:


"Stewart Pinkerton" wrote in message
...
25 years ago, I was using a slide rule,

You were fairly slow to catch onto those "new fangled" calculators then :-)
30 years ago I was already using a HP35 calculator, having sold my slide
rule.

TonyP.


You've sold your slide rule? My Thornton is still sitting in front of
me at the back of my desk. I still use it sometimes to explain logs to
the new generation - the wonder in their eyes when at last they
understand them is great. I did get an HP35 when it came out though -
I'm still paying the mortgage off!

I remember salivating over the HP-35 at the college bookstore in 1972.
Still remember the price-tag: $395. Everyone paid list price back then.


d

_____________________________

http://www.pearce.uk.com

On Fri, 9 Jan 2004 21:14:31 +1100, "Tony Pearce"
wrote:

"Stewart Pinkerton" wrote in message
...
25 years ago, I was using a slide rule,

You were fairly slow to catch onto those "new fangled" calculators then :-)
30 years ago I was already using a HP35 calculator, having sold my slide
rule.

To be honest, I was probably using a Casio 25 years ago, but I still
have three slide rules, including the redoubtable Otis King
'truncheon'. Eeee, them were't days! :-)
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

On Fri, 9 Jan 2004 21:14:31 +1100, "Tony Pearce"
wrote:

"Stewart Pinkerton" wrote in message
...
25 years ago, I was using a slide rule,

You were fairly slow to catch onto those "new fangled" calculators then :-)
30 years ago I was already using a HP35 calculator, having sold my slide
rule.

To be honest, I was probably using a Casio 25 years ago, but I still
have three slide rules, including the redoubtable Otis King
'truncheon'. Eeee, them were't days! :-)
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering