"Pug Fugley" wrote in message
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"Paul Vina" wrote in message
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Bose sucks, face it. The guy can do far better for far less money.


It may be overpriced, but if that's the sound he's after you can't
really
put a price on that.

Question is..why would anyone want that sound?

Once you hear a system that sounds twice as good that costs half as much,
why would you want Bose? You really should broaden your horizons, Paul.
Close the magazine, quit reading the ads, stop listening to Paul Harvey,
and
go out and do some listening on your own. You'd be surprised how bad Bose
really is.

Pug you would be surprised how many people love their Bose systems look at
how many cars of all different price points contain Bose. I've seen a few
theater systems also use the 3.2.1. system or how many have the Wave Radio.
a lot of people like it for better or worse.

"Tony Fernandes" wrote in message
...
Mark Zarella wrote: "I have. For a stock system, it's well above average
IMO."

Since this thread has pretty much changed topics, I'll jump on the
bandwagon
here.

Has ANYONE heard the new THX certified systems in the Lincoln LS and
Navigator?? Every time I check with my local dealer they have no clue
what
I'm talking about. And now I see the commercials on TV, so I know I'm not
imagining things!

Tony


--

is supposed to be out know but I don't think very many dealers are ordering
it yet I would check on the net and see if select dealers get these cars.

"Pug Fugley" wrote in message
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And like you said, dealer cost is a great thing as my Servo didn't cost
much
more than an SVS. But I like them both better than the Sunfire which I
thought sounded too much like a one note boomer...more like a bandpass
box.
Not that it matters, but I'd take any of them over M&K..talk about some
overpriced junk. Customers seem to like them for some reason though.

many recording studios used M&K a lot of churches also, I can't explain it.

"Paul Vina" wrote in message
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So what you're saying is that you don't even know what's in your "living
room" since you called it a projection tv. Really reinforcing the "I'm in
the industry" bit aren't ya.

I suggest you do some research on that projector, and you will see that it
is indeed a projector. DLP at that.

"Paul Vina" wrote in message
news:83KMb.38433$5V2.57577@attbi_s53...
Even the military doesn't make you work 24/7. Aks my wife, she's deployed
and only works 12/6s. Besides, my job's even better, I teach people how
to
be better at killing people.

I hope you're good at it, cause you don't know **** about audio.

"Soundfreak03" wrote in message
...
Yes, you've figured it out. I collect welfare. That's why I'm sitting
here
on a $3500 computer with $60/month broadband while watching a 100'
projection TV while listening to a $6000 home theater system and
researching
stuff to add to my $2500 car stereo

You paid way too much for that stuff then. $3500 for a computer??? Man you
got
hosed on that one.

The monitor itself was $1500. That leaves $2000 for the rest of the parts.
When you're building a system around an Athlon 64 with 2 gigs of memory and
a SCSI RAID-5 array it don't come cheap.



Do you just like to pay out the ass for your crap?
Assuming you meant a 100" projection TV then you are obviously lying. The
largest projection TV is 82", which if you were not such an idiot you
would
have at least made your lie plausible, or at least said watching TV on a
100"

I suggest you go up a few threads and do some research on my projector. It
would go BIGGER than 100" if I had the wall space.

"Simon Juncal" wrote in
message news:4003B4E9.4000704@usefirstinitialandlastnameAT erols.com...
Pug Fugley wrote:
is only about 60'.


Exactly. Imax wasn't quite big enough.

LMAO an "engineer" who gets feet and inches mixed up... A ****ing 19
year old carpenter's helper wouldn't make that mistake, let alone an
engineer.

Don't get your panties all in a twist, it's just a matter of not pressing
the shift key. See, the " and the ' are both the same key, and depressing
the 'shift' key while pressing the "' key will alternate between the " and
the '.

You need to take a basic typing class.

"Tha Ghee" wrote in message
...


Pug you would be surprised how many people love their Bose systems look at
how many cars of all different price points contain Bose. I've seen a few
theater systems also use the 3.2.1. system or how many have the Wave
Radio.



Name one movie theater that uses a Bose Wave Radio for the audio. Just one.
Please!

I suggest you do some research on that projector, and you will see that it
is indeed a projector. DLP at that.


It still doesn't change the fact that it is NOT a TV as you stated. You got
caught in the lie and then changed your story.
Oh and where is that shop of yours? You know Puggy, you keep avoiding that
question and even the noobs can see that you have never even worked at one.

Les

The monitor itself was $1500. That leaves $2000 for the rest of the parts.
When you're building a system around an Athlon 64 with 2 gigs of memory and
a SCSI RAID-5 array it don't come cheap.

And it should not come that expensive either. Nonetheless your bragging about
****e you do not even own to begin with. It is all fiction just like your shop.


I suggest you go up a few threads and do some research on my projector. It
would go BIGGER than 100" if I had the wall space.

Never said it wouldn't. Where did you get that from? Doesn't matter anyway
since you probably do not own one.
But maybe you do, tell me where your shop is and I will see how much volume
they really do.

Les

I've seen a few
theater systems also use the 3.2.1. system or how many have the Wave
Radio.



Name one movie theater that uses a Bose Wave Radio for the audio. Just one.
Please!


Notice the "or" in the sentence dumbass. And since we are naming just one then
how about this. Name one time where I have been wrong. Quote me and prove it.
But you cannot and will not.

Les

On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 02:05:29 GMT, "Pug Fugley" wrote:


"Paul Vina" wrote in message
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Wow, I can't believe he hasn't had anything to say about this post yet. I
guess it's hard to argue with someone with proven integrity when you have
none. Loser.

No, I just thank the sweet Lord that I have enough education to not have to
work for the Air Force packing bombs.


Pug, I'm a flight officer in the Navy, and the young men and
women we have "packing bombs", as you so ignorantly described it, are
among the finest I've ever met. I'm ashamed to admit that there have
been times when I've complained about having to go man up an aircraft
and launch from a flight deck that's already 100 degrees fahrenheit at
six in the morning, because we're in the middle of the Persian Gulf
and that's as cool as it gets overnight. Meanwhile, the ordinance and
fuel personnel, along with dozens of others, have already been on the
flight deck for three hours busting their asses so I can take off on
time. They get me off the deck safely, and they're waiting for me
when I return, to fix the plane, refuel it, and turn it around so the
next mission can launch on time. They do it with a smile on their
face and pride in their work. And, sad to say, they do it for
remarkably little money.
I've seen 18-year-old kids that I wouldn't trust to make my
hamburger. but then I think about the men and women I trust my life to
every day I fly, and it makes my heart burst.

Pug, you're not fit to wash their clothes, so unless and until you've
actually served, I'll thank you to keep your opinions to yourself.

Scott Gardner
LT US Navy

"Soundfreak03" wrote in message
...
I suggest you do some research on that projector, and you will see that
it
is indeed a projector. DLP at that.


It still doesn't change the fact that it is NOT a TV as you stated. You
got
caught in the lie and then changed your story.

That's funny, I seem to be able to watch TV on it. *shrug*

"Soundfreak03" wrote in message
...
The monitor itself was $1500. That leaves $2000 for the rest of the
parts.
When you're building a system around an Athlon 64 with 2 gigs of memory
and
a SCSI RAID-5 array it don't come cheap.

And it should not come that expensive either. Nonetheless your bragging
about
****e you do not even own to begin with. It is all fiction just like your
shop.

Check out the prices at www.newegg.com

You may take your foot out of your mouth now.

"Scott Gardner" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 02:05:29 GMT, "Pug Fugley" wrote:


"Paul Vina" wrote in message
news:%dHMb.34885$5V2.53527@attbi_s53...
Wow, I can't believe he hasn't had anything to say about this post yet.
I
guess it's hard to argue with someone with proven integrity when you
have
none. Loser.

No, I just thank the sweet Lord that I have enough education to not have
to
work for the Air Force packing bombs.


Pug, I'm a flight officer in the Navy, and the young men and
women we have "packing bombs", as you so ignorantly described it, are
among the finest I've ever met. I'm ashamed to admit that there have
been times when I've complained about having to go man up an aircraft
and launch from a flight deck that's already 100 degrees fahrenheit at
six in the morning, because we're in the middle of the Persian Gulf
and that's as cool as it gets overnight. Meanwhile, the ordinance and
fuel personnel, along with dozens of others, have already been on the
flight deck for three hours busting their asses so I can take off on
time. They get me off the deck safely, and they're waiting for me
when I return, to fix the plane, refuel it, and turn it around so the
next mission can launch on time. They do it with a smile on their
face and pride in their work. And, sad to say, they do it for
remarkably little money.
I've seen 18-year-old kids that I wouldn't trust to make my
hamburger. but then I think about the men and women I trust my life to
every day I fly, and it makes my heart burst.

Gee, congratulations..I guess.



Pug, you're not fit to wash their clothes, so unless and until you've
actually served, I'll thank you to keep your opinions to yourself.

You have no idea who you're talking to, you little E1 prick.

I'm still waiting for him to name ONE stereo shop he's worked at, let alone
owns.



Paul Vina




"Soundfreak03" wrote in message
...
I've seen a few
theater systems also use the 3.2.1. system or how many have the Wave
Radio.



Name one movie theater that uses a Bose Wave Radio for the audio. Just
one.
Please!


Notice the "or" in the sentence dumbass. And since we are naming just one
then
how about this. Name one time where I have been wrong. Quote me and prove
it.
But you cannot and will not.

Les

But it's a project-OR, not the projec-TION you said it was. Ass.



Paul Vina



"Pug Fugley" wrote in message
ink.net...

"Paul Vina" wrote in message
news2KMb.38048$sv6.111693@attbi_s52...
So what you're saying is that you don't even know what's in your "living
room" since you called it a projection tv. Really reinforcing the "I'm
in
the industry" bit aren't ya.

I suggest you do some research on that projector, and you will see that it
is indeed a projector. DLP at that.

Why, because I don't put people down for having an opinion or liking gear
that I don't? You've got some serious issues. BTW, I'm *very* good at what
I do.




Paul Vina




"Pug Fugley" wrote in message
ink.net...

"Paul Vina" wrote in message
news:83KMb.38433$5V2.57577@attbi_s53...
Even the military doesn't make you work 24/7. Aks my wife, she's
deployed
and only works 12/6s. Besides, my job's even better, I teach people how
to
be better at killing people.

I hope you're good at it, cause you don't know **** about audio.

You have no idea who you're talking to, you little E1 prick.



Then why don't you clarify it for us? You've been pretty reluctant up to
this point.



Paul Vina

That's funny, I seem to be able to watch TV on it. *shrug*


Nonetheless, it is NOT a projection TV as you said. It is a projector, with the
need for an outboard tuner to recieve that range of frequencies. Caught in the
lie and even noobs can see through you.
And why will you not tell us what shop it is you work for? At least answer why
your avoiding it. Your just an internet loser with a disease for lying.

Les

Check out the prices at www.newegg.com

You may take your foot out of your mouth now.


Sorry, I don't buy off of newegg.com. You quote one internet retailer like you
cannot get stuff cheaper??? Pretty lame. Still do not see how you managed to
pay that much. For someone on the "inside" you sure do not have alot of
connections. I would figure being so good at that fictional shop of yours you
would have connections with people in other ends of the technology business.
Keep dreaming Puggy you might actually be able to save up enough money working
at McDonalds one day, just see if mommy will increase your allowance a little.

Les

"Soundfreak03" wrote in message
...
Check out the prices at www.newegg.com

You may take your foot out of your mouth now.


Sorry, I don't buy off of newegg.com. You quote one internet retailer like
you
cannot get stuff cheaper??? Pretty lame. Still do not see how you managed
to
pay that much.

1) I'm not saying I buy all my stuff from there, it mostly comes from the
distributor. I just put it there so you can go and learn something.

2) Where is this magical website where you can get $3500 worth of equipment
for $400????

Put up or shut up.

"Paul Vina" wrote in message
news:7Z2Nb.46788$nt4.80560@attbi_s51...

You have no idea who you're talking to, you little E1 prick.



Then why don't you clarify it for us? You've been pretty reluctant up to
this point.

I think the general attitude of this newsgroup said it best when everyone
said:

"Vina does not know jack **** about audio."

That about does it.

"Paul Vina" wrote in message
news:AW2Nb.46354$5V2.64419@attbi_s53...
But it's a project-OR, not the projec-TION you said it was. Ass.

It projects the image onto the wall, you dumb ****stick. Not only do you not
know **** about audio, but you don't know **** about video!!


BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA HA HHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAA HAAAA


VINA HAS BEEN EXPOSED FOR THE IGNORANT ASS HE IS!!!!

WHOO HOOO!!!!

"Paul Vina" wrote in message
newsX2Nb.46782$nt4.81183@attbi_s51...
Why, because I don't put people down for having an opinion or liking gear
that I don't? You've got some serious issues. BTW, I'm *very* good at
what
I do.


You're very good at getting verbally slain as well. Keep up the good work.

"Soundfreak03" wrote in message
...
That's funny, I seem to be able to watch TV on it. *shrug*


Nonetheless, it is NOT a projection TV as you said. It is a projector,
with the
need for an outboard tuner to recieve that range of frequencies. Caught in
the
lie and even noobs can see through you.

Nope, I have no tuner.

You're an ignorant twit, twig boy!

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAA HAA AHA HAAAA HAAAA

On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 03:35:21 GMT, "Pug Fugley" wrote:


"Scott Gardner" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 02:05:29 GMT, "Pug Fugley" wrote:


"Paul Vina" wrote in message
news:%dHMb.34885$5V2.53527@attbi_s53...
Wow, I can't believe he hasn't had anything to say about this post yet.
I
guess it's hard to argue with someone with proven integrity when you
have
none. Loser.

No, I just thank the sweet Lord that I have enough education to not have
to
work for the Air Force packing bombs.


Pug, I'm a flight officer in the Navy, and the young men and
women we have "packing bombs", as you so ignorantly described it, are
among the finest I've ever met. I'm ashamed to admit that there have
been times when I've complained about having to go man up an aircraft
and launch from a flight deck that's already 100 degrees fahrenheit at
six in the morning, because we're in the middle of the Persian Gulf
and that's as cool as it gets overnight. Meanwhile, the ordinance and
fuel personnel, along with dozens of others, have already been on the
flight deck for three hours busting their asses so I can take off on
time. They get me off the deck safely, and they're waiting for me
when I return, to fix the plane, refuel it, and turn it around so the
next mission can launch on time. They do it with a smile on their
face and pride in their work. And, sad to say, they do it for
remarkably little money.
I've seen 18-year-old kids that I wouldn't trust to make my
hamburger. but then I think about the men and women I trust my life to
every day I fly, and it makes my heart burst.

Gee, congratulations..I guess.



Pug, you're not fit to wash their clothes, so unless and until you've
actually served, I'll thank you to keep your opinions to yourself.

You have no idea who you're talking to, you little E1 prick.

I guess we'll have to add the Naval rank structure to your list of
weak areas. Note the "officer" part of "flight officer". I was never
an E-1, even when I was enlisted. I joined as an E-3, and was
promoted to E-5 before I was selected for Officer Candidate School and
commissioned as an officer. Also, you'll notice the "LT" below my
name. That stands for "Lieutenant", which would be an O-3, not an
E-1.

At least get your basic facts straight before you spew.

Scott Gardner
LT US Navy

I guess we'll have to add the Naval rank structure to your list of
weak areas. Note the "officer" part of "flight officer". I was never
an E-1, even when I was enlisted. I joined as an E-3, and was
promoted to E-5 before I was selected for Officer Candidate School and
commissioned as an officer. Also, you'll notice the "LT" below my
name. That stands for "Lieutenant", which would be an O-3, not an
E-1.

At least get your basic facts straight before you spew.

Why are you even bothering? He's desperately flailing now. It's very
sad...

1) I'm not saying I buy all my stuff from there, it mostly comes from the
distributor. I just put it there so you can go and learn something.

2) Where is this magical website where you can get $3500 worth of equipment
for $400????

Put up or shut up.


Take you own advice and put up or shut up. Where is this fictional shop???
And where did you get $400 dollars from? Noone mentioned that moron. I do not
get my computer gear from websites. Actually being in the business has allowed
me to make contacts in the technology industry and have local dealers who give
me great pricing, and I do the same for them. But since you have never been in
the industry you would not have those contacts. And if you were ever in it then
you sure are reluctant to add any resemblance of proof to your claims.

Les

Nope, I have no tuner.

You're an ignorant twit, twig boy!

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAA HAA AHA HAAAA HAAAA


Did your caps lock get stuck on??? Better stop eating those leftover McDonalds
pies you bring home after work at the computer.
And you obviously do not have any knowledge of how the television signals work.
You HAVE TO have some sort of a tuner ( a frequency selector inside a reciever)
to recieve TV signals, whether they come down cable, satellite, or over the
air. Would you like to tell us how you can "magically" recieve TV signals
without such a device?
And just where is that shop of yours? Or hey I have got a new one. Which
competitions did you win back in the day? Should be pretty easy to remember
that. But you know that it can all be verified and it would blow your story so
you won't tell. Everyone can see through you know pugsly, we all know your a
compulsive liar with a desire to impress people on the internet. It is not
working.

Les
Notice how I use my real name. Wonder why ol' Puggy won't?

I'm still waiting for him to name ONE stereo shop he's worked at, let alone
owns.

No reply really, just pointing out that Pugsly is scared to answer it. How many
times is he going to avoid this question?

Les

I think the general attitude of this newsgroup said it best when everyone
said:

"Vina does not know jack **** about audio."

That about does it.

Change that to "Pugsly does not know jack **** about audio" and you would have
it right. If anyone is actually still reading this then let Puggy know what you
think about him. And as a reminder he still will not reveal his shop that puts
the others out of business. He has spoken for most everyone here but I have a
feeling he is wrong.

And I think this would sum it up better. About 80% of the Paul's are Paul Vina.

http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=e...anks+paul&meta
=group%3Drec.audio.car

And there we have Ol' Puggy. Wanna change your mind now Pugsly? Google does not
lie. There it is folks, you be the judge.
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=e...ug+group%3Arec.
audio.car&meta=group%3Drec.audio.car

Les

Pug Fugley wrote:
Don't get your panties all in a twist, it's just a matter of not pressing
the shift key. See, the " and the ' are both the same key, and depressing
the 'shift' key while pressing the "' key will alternate between the " and
the '.

You need to take a basic typing class.

Why would I need a typing class? You're the one who supposedly made the
typing mistake you blithering idiot.

--
Simon
"I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein

It projects the image onto the wall, you dumb ****stick. Not only do you not
know **** about audio, but you don't know **** about video!!


A Projection TV does no such thing. Which is what you said you had. A projector
does project an image on the wall, which is NOT what you claimed to have. I do
not see what your getting at, maybe you should actually explain yourself.
Caught in the lie and this is how he handles it.

VINA HAS BEEN EXPOSED FOR THE IGNORANT ASS HE IS!!!!

WHOO HOOO!!!!

Huh? Your the one who looks like an ignorant ass. You are a pitiful person, who
makes up lies about gear he is owned, comps he has won, and shops he has worked
at. Prove me wrong.

Les

Pug Fugley wrote:
have at least made your lie plausible, or at least said watching TV on a

100"

I suggest you go up a few threads and do some research on my projector. It
would go BIGGER than 100" if I had the wall space.

Um... How do you NOT have more than 8.5' of wall space? Are you watching
your DLP in your bathroom?

--
Simon
"I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein

Mark Zarella wrote:
I guess we'll have to add the Naval rank structure to your list of
weak areas. Note the "officer" part of "flight officer". I was never
an E-1, even when I was enlisted. I joined as an E-3, and was
promoted to E-5 before I was selected for Officer Candidate School and
commissioned as an officer. Also, you'll notice the "LT" below my
name. That stands for "Lieutenant", which would be an O-3, not an
E-1.

At least get your basic facts straight before you spew.


Why are you even bothering? He's desperately flailing now. It's very
sad...

It's actually interesting in a train wreck kinda way. It's obvious that
he was about to lie about some sort of military service. He's probably
googling away right now looking for some more high end gear he can claim
to own.

Apparently he'd watch his projection TV... er... DLP with a picture
larger than 100" if only he could find a wall larger than eight and a
half feet long... LOL I'm still laughing over that one. He'll probably
claim that all his wall space is taken up by piccaso's next.

--
Simon
"I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein

no... but I'll **** you with a broomstick, if you'd like....

FHLH


"Pug Fugley" wrote in message
k.net...

"fhlh002" wrote in message
...
Is this some kinda "keyboard" threat??

Meet me at ROCS, and we can discuss this further, if you'd like.

Is that a gay bar? No thanks. Ask Zaralella, he likes the weenies.

"Tony Fernandes" wrote in message
...
Derby Hat wrote: "The system in the Maxima is not Bose's top of the line."

I would hope not. My 2001 Maxima came with the Bose system and I did not
care for it at all. Even the stock system in my 1997 Honda Prelude
sounded
better.

Tony

you can't compare the Max system to the Prelude's is had a mic inside to
check the performance so it's a different animal.

No, it's you that doesn't know. A projection TV has a tuner and a screen as
well as the 3 color guns to make a fully functional unit. A projector won't
do **** but project a blue square without a tuner or a screen. And I don't
know.



Paul Vina



"Pug Fugley" wrote in message
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"Paul Vina" wrote in message
news:AW2Nb.46354$5V2.64419@attbi_s53...
But it's a project-OR, not the projec-TION you said it was. Ass.

It projects the image onto the wall, you dumb ****stick. Not only do you
not
know **** about audio, but you don't know **** about video!!


BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA HA HHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAA HAAAA


VINA HAS BEEN EXPOSED FOR THE IGNORANT ASS HE IS!!!!

WHOO HOOO!!!!

Tha's odd, I haven't lost a round to your retarded ass yet.



Paul Vina




"Pug Fugley" wrote in message
ink.net...

"Paul Vina" wrote in message
newsX2Nb.46782$nt4.81183@attbi_s51...
Why, because I don't put people down for having an opinion or liking
gear
that I don't? You've got some serious issues. BTW, I'm *very* good at
what
I do.


You're very good at getting verbally slain as well. Keep up the good work.