[Chris Hornbeck]

On Fri, 18 May 2007 09:50:02 GMT, Eeyore
wrote:

Why is all this being crossposted into rec.audio.tubes?

Please reconsider.

Thank you,

Chris Hornbeck

[jasee]

Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Eeyore wrote:
The above pre-supposes that the 'interference' *would* have been
audible if star-quad had not been used.

You only use star-quad in high interference level situations.

All my mic cables are star quad. It's not that much more expensive
than good ordinary stuff so why take a risk?

I've never heard of star quad until now, it looks like a very good idea for
balanced micrphone leads in particulr, where's a good place to buy it (in
small amounts)?
Farnell list a couple of types, Maplin none.

[MiNe 109]

In article ,
"jasee" wrote:

Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Eeyore wrote:
The above pre-supposes that the 'interference' *would* have been
audible if star-quad had not been used.

You only use star-quad in high interference level situations.

All my mic cables are star quad. It's not that much more expensive
than good ordinary stuff so why take a risk?

I've never heard of star quad until now, it looks like a very good idea for
balanced micrphone leads in particulr, where's a good place to buy it (in
small amounts)?
Farnell list a couple of types, Maplin none.

Search Maplin for "starquad".

Stephen

[Don Pearce]

On Sat, 26 May 2007 08:30:29 -0500, MiNe 109
wrote:

In article ,
"jasee" wrote:

Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Eeyore wrote:
The above pre-supposes that the 'interference' *would* have been
audible if star-quad had not been used.

You only use star-quad in high interference level situations.

All my mic cables are star quad. It's not that much more expensive
than good ordinary stuff so why take a risk?

I've never heard of star quad until now, it looks like a very good idea for
balanced micrphone leads in particulr, where's a good place to buy it (in
small amounts)?
Farnell list a couple of types, Maplin none.

Search Maplin for "starquad".

Stephen

Better still, search radiospares http://rswww.com for starquad. They
have 7 types listed.

d

--
Pearce Consulting
http://www.pearce.uk.com

[Dave Plowman (News)]

In article ,
jasee wrote:
All my mic cables are star quad. It's not that much more expensive
than good ordinary stuff so why take a risk?

I've never heard of star quad until now, it looks like a very good idea
for balanced micrphone leads in particulr, where's a good place to buy
it (in small amounts)? Farnell list a couple of types, Maplin none.

Can't be bothered searching Maplin's dreadful site, but the last cat. of
theirs I have has lots in different colours. Try VU29

--
*I don't know what your problem is, but I'll bet it's hard to pronounce

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

[jasee]

MiNe 109 wrote:
In article ,
"jasee" wrote:

Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Eeyore wrote:
The above pre-supposes that the 'interference' *would* have been
audible if star-quad had not been used.

You only use star-quad in high interference level situations.

All my mic cables are star quad. It's not that much more expensive
than good ordinary stuff so why take a risk?

I've never heard of star quad until now, it looks like a very good
idea for balanced micrphone leads in particulr, where's a good place
to buy it (in small amounts)?
Farnell list a couple of types, Maplin none.

Search Maplin for "starquad".

no results found :-(

If you search cables for "star quad" you get a few results but nothing with
"star quad" or even "starquad" for that matter in it and so suitable cable
(using FF)

[Laurence Payne]

On Sat, 26 May 2007 08:30:29 -0500, MiNe 109
wrote:

I've never heard of star quad until now, it looks like a very good idea for
balanced micrphone leads in particulr, where's a good place to buy it (in
small amounts)?
Farnell list a couple of types, Maplin none.

Search Maplin for "starquad".

I can't see it there either. I think Maplins USED to stock it.
Got a reference?

I'm sure Canford will supply. Do you actually HAVE a noise problem
with conventional mic leads? And good soldering skills? Making up a
lead with starquad is trickier than with conventional cable.

[MiNe 109]

In article ,
"jasee" wrote:

MiNe 109 wrote:
In article ,
"jasee" wrote:

Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Eeyore wrote:
The above pre-supposes that the 'interference' *would* have been
audible if star-quad had not been used.

You only use star-quad in high interference level situations.

All my mic cables are star quad. It's not that much more expensive
than good ordinary stuff so why take a risk?

I've never heard of star quad until now, it looks like a very good
idea for balanced micrphone leads in particulr, where's a good place
to buy it (in small amounts)?
Farnell list a couple of types, Maplin none.

Search Maplin for "starquad".

no results found :-(

If you search cables for "star quad" you get a few results but nothing with
"star quad" or even "starquad" for that matter in it and so suitable cable
(using FF)

I googled "maplin starquad" and found this:

http://www.maplin.co.uk/free_uk_deli...nal_Microphone
_Cable_13262/Starquad_Professional_Microphone_Cable_13262.htm

Good luck!

Stephen

[Laurence Payne]

On Sat, 26 May 2007 09:14:04 -0500, MiNe 109
wrote:

In article ,
"jasee" wrote:

MiNe 109 wrote:
In article ,
"jasee" wrote:

Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Eeyore wrote:
The above pre-supposes that the 'interference' *would* have been
audible if star-quad had not been used.

You only use star-quad in high interference level situations.

All my mic cables are star quad. It's not that much more expensive
than good ordinary stuff so why take a risk?

I've never heard of star quad until now, it looks like a very good
idea for balanced micrphone leads in particulr, where's a good place
to buy it (in small amounts)?
Farnell list a couple of types, Maplin none.

Search Maplin for "starquad".

no results found :-(

If you search cables for "star quad" you get a few results but nothing with
"star quad" or even "starquad" for that matter in it and so suitable cable
(using FF)

I googled "maplin starquad" and found this:

http://www.maplin.co.uk/free_uk_deli...able_13262.htm

Ah! A Google-expert! :-)

So, follow through. Click "View this product..." at the top of the
page and see what you get?

[Eeyore]

jasee wrote:

Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
Eeyore wrote:

The above pre-supposes that the 'interference' *would* have been
audible if star-quad had not been used.

You only use star-quad in high interference level situations.

All my mic cables are star quad. It's not that much more expensive
than good ordinary stuff so why take a risk?

I've never heard of star quad until now, it looks like a very good idea for
balanced micrphone leads in particulr, where's a good place to buy it (in
small amounts)?
Farnell list a couple of types, Maplin none.

No surprise, it's a professional type cable.

What do you mean by small amounts ? If Farnell's too pricey try VDC.

http://www.vdctrading.com/products.a...=1&ProductID=6

Graham

[Eeyore]

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote:

jasee wrote:

All my mic cables are star quad. It's not that much more expensive
than good ordinary stuff so why take a risk?

I've never heard of star quad until now, it looks like a very good idea
for balanced micrphone leads in particulr, where's a good place to buy
it (in small amounts)? Farnell list a couple of types, Maplin none.

Can't be bothered searching Maplin's dreadful site, but the last cat. of
theirs I have has lots in different colours. Try VU29

Sorry, the product you are searching for is no longer available (discontinued).

Graham

[Eeyore]

MiNe 109 wrote:

"jasee" wrote:
MiNe 109 wrote:
"jasee" wrote:
Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
Eeyore wrote:

The above pre-supposes that the 'interference' *would* have been
audible if star-quad had not been used.

You only use star-quad in high interference level situations.

All my mic cables are star quad. It's not that much more expensive
than good ordinary stuff so why take a risk?

I've never heard of star quad until now, it looks like a very good
idea for balanced micrphone leads in particulr, where's a good place
to buy it (in small amounts)?
Farnell list a couple of types, Maplin none.

Search Maplin for "starquad".

no results found :-(

If you search cables for "star quad" you get a few results but nothing with
"star quad" or even "starquad" for that matter in it and so suitable cable
(using FF)

I googled "maplin starquad" and found this:

http://www.maplin.co.uk/free_uk_deli...nal_Microphone
_Cable_13262/Starquad_Professional_Microphone_Cable_13262.htm

LOL !

Just goes to show how useless their own site is.

Graham

[Eeyore]

jasee wrote:

I've never heard of star quad until now, it looks like a very good idea for
balanced micrphone leads in particulr, where's a good place to buy it (in
small amounts)?

You don't use it in small amounts ! That's the whole point !

Graham

[Laurence Payne]

On Sat, 26 May 2007 14:40:32 GMT, Eeyore
wrote:

I googled "maplin starquad" and found this:

http://www.maplin.co.uk/free_uk_deli...nal_Microphone
_Cable_13262/Starquad_Professional_Microphone_Cable_13262.htm

LOL !

Just goes to show how useless their own site is.

The site is fine. Search "star quad" and nothing comes up. This is
correct - Maplins don't stock it.

You can't blame Maplins for what comes up if you sneak in backwards
through an old Google link.

[tony sayer]

In article , jasee
writes
MiNe 109 wrote:
In article ,
"jasee" wrote:

Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Eeyore wrote:
The above pre-supposes that the 'interference' *would* have been
audible if star-quad had not been used.

You only use star-quad in high interference level situations.

All my mic cables are star quad. It's not that much more expensive
than good ordinary stuff so why take a risk?

I've never heard of star quad until now, it looks like a very good
idea for balanced micrphone leads in particulr, where's a good place
to buy it (in small amounts)?
Farnell list a couple of types, Maplin none.

Search Maplin for "starquad".

no results found :-(

If you search cables for "star quad" you get a few results but nothing with
"star quad" or even "starquad" for that matter in it and so suitable cable
(using FF)



http://www.canford.co.uk/commerce/pr...oductid=30-430
--
Tony Sayer

[Dave Plowman (News)]

In article ,
Eeyore wrote:
I've never heard of star quad until now, it looks like a very good
idea for balanced micrphone leads in particulr, where's a good place
to buy it (in small amounts)? Farnell list a couple of types, Maplin
none.

No surprise, it's a professional type cable.

Maplin have a reasonable selection of 'pro' cables including snakes. Or at
least did. And are one of the few that will cut it.

--
*The more I learn about women, the more I love my car

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

[Dave Plowman (News)]

In article ,
Eeyore wrote:
I've never heard of star quad until now, it looks like a very good
idea for balanced micrphone leads in particulr, where's a good place
to buy it (in small amounts)?

You don't use it in small amounts ! That's the whole point !

I use it for a fishpole to radio transmitter cable. Or more accurately mic
to phantom box. So one for a short pole is only 4 metres long. But it can
still help if you're close to an interference emitting light etc.

--
*The most wasted day of all is one in which we have not laughed.*

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

[Dave Plowman (News)]

In article ,
Don Pearce wrote:
Search Maplin for "starquad".

Stephen

Better still, search radiospares http://rswww.com for starquad. They
have 7 types listed.

But do they sell by the meter? Jasee seems to want only a small amount.

--
*Keep honking...I'm reloading.

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

[Don Pearce]

On Sat, 26 May 2007 18:38:15 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

In article ,
Don Pearce wrote:
Search Maplin for "starquad".

Stephen

Better still, search radiospares http://rswww.com for starquad. They
have 7 types listed.

But do they sell by the meter? Jasee seems to want only a small amount.

What you do with mic cable is buy a reel and put a connector on each
end. When you just want a small amount, you don't unwind it. When you
want a lot, you unwind it. Easy.

d

--
Pearce Consulting
http://www.pearce.uk.com

[Dave Plowman (News)]

In article ,
Don Pearce wrote:
But do they sell by the meter? Jasee seems to want only a small amount.

What you do with mic cable is buy a reel and put a connector on each
end. When you just want a small amount, you don't unwind it. When you
want a lot, you unwind it. Easy.

You've not been involved much with mic cables, have you? ;-)

--
*Just give me chocolate and nobody gets hurt

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

[Don Pearce]

On Sat, 26 May 2007 19:19:47 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

In article ,
Don Pearce wrote:
But do they sell by the meter? Jasee seems to want only a small amount.

What you do with mic cable is buy a reel and put a connector on each
end. When you just want a small amount, you don't unwind it. When you
want a lot, you unwind it. Easy.

You've not been involved much with mic cables, have you? ;-)

More than I care to say. Actually I would modify what I wrote. I
divide the reel into two, and make a stereo pair wound on the reel. I
unwind that as needed. I leave a few feet hanging out of the middle so
I can plug into the mixer easily.

d

--
Pearce Consulting
http://www.pearce.uk.com

[jasee]

Laurence Payne wrote:
On Sat, 26 May 2007 08:30:29 -0500, MiNe 109
wrote:

I've never heard of star quad until now, it looks like a very good
idea for balanced micrphone leads in particulr, where's a good
place to buy it (in small amounts)?
Farnell list a couple of types, Maplin none.

Search Maplin for "starquad".

I can't see it there either. I think Maplins USED to stock it.
Got a reference?

I'm sure Canford will supply. Do you actually HAVE a noise problem
with conventional mic leads?

No, but as Dave says (I think) it doesn't hurt to be prepared if it's little
more expensive.

And good soldering skills? Making up a
lead with starquad is trickier than with conventional cable.

It can't be worse than making up din leads!, xlr connectors are much more
tolererant

[jasee]

Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
jasee wrote:
All my mic cables are star quad. It's not that much more expensive
than good ordinary stuff so why take a risk?

I've never heard of star quad until now, it looks like a very good
idea for balanced micrphone leads in particulr, where's a good place
to buy it (in small amounts)? Farnell list a couple of types, Maplin
none.

Can't be bothered searching Maplin's dreadful site, but the last cat.
of theirs I have has lots in different colours. Try VU29

'sorry no products found'. :-(
I think they used to stock the Van Damme stuff (which seems to be quite high
quality: neoprene/pvc) at quite a good price if google is anything to go by

[Eeyore]

Don Pearce wrote:

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote:
Don Pearce wrote:
But do they sell by the meter? Jasee seems to want only a small amount.

What you do with mic cable is buy a reel and put a connector on each
end. When you just want a small amount, you don't unwind it. When you
want a lot, you unwind it. Easy.

You've not been involved much with mic cables, have you? ;-)

More than I care to say. Actually I would modify what I wrote. I
divide the reel into two, and make a stereo pair wound on the reel. I
unwind that as needed. I leave a few feet hanging out of the middle so
I can plug into the mixer easily.

Just stay away from live sound will you ? You'd have lawsuits from all the ppl
who tripped over the reels.

Graham

[Eeyore]

jasee wrote:

Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
jasee wrote:

All my mic cables are star quad. It's not that much more expensive
than good ordinary stuff so why take a risk?

I've never heard of star quad until now, it looks like a very good
idea for balanced micrphone leads in particulr, where's a good place
to buy it (in small amounts)? Farnell list a couple of types, Maplin
none.

Can't be bothered searching Maplin's dreadful site, but the last cat.
of theirs I have has lots in different colours. Try VU29

'sorry no products found'. :-(
I think they used to stock the Van Damme stuff (which seems to be quite high
quality: neoprene/pvc) at quite a good price if google is anything to go by

VDC and Farnell both sell Van Damme.

VDC's (see my post ) price is about half Farnell's.

A no-brainer really.

Graham

[Don Pearce]

On Sat, 26 May 2007 19:11:54 GMT, Eeyore
wrote:



Don Pearce wrote:

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote:
Don Pearce wrote:
But do they sell by the meter? Jasee seems to want only a small amount.

What you do with mic cable is buy a reel and put a connector on each
end. When you just want a small amount, you don't unwind it. When you
want a lot, you unwind it. Easy.

You've not been involved much with mic cables, have you? ;-)

More than I care to say. Actually I would modify what I wrote. I
divide the reel into two, and make a stereo pair wound on the reel. I
unwind that as needed. I leave a few feet hanging out of the middle so
I can plug into the mixer easily.

Just stay away from live sound will you ? You'd have lawsuits from all the ppl
who tripped over the reels.

Graham

The reels stay nicely tucked away under the desk - nobody is going to
trip over them.

d

--
Pearce Consulting
http://www.pearce.uk.com

[Eeyore]

Don Pearce wrote:

Eeyore wrote:
Don Pearce wrote:
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote:
Don Pearce wrote:
But do they sell by the meter? Jasee seems to want only a small amount.

What you do with mic cable is buy a reel and put a connector on each
end. When you just want a small amount, you don't unwind it. When you
want a lot, you unwind it. Easy.

You've not been involved much with mic cables, have you? ;-)

More than I care to say. Actually I would modify what I wrote. I
divide the reel into two, and make a stereo pair wound on the reel. I
unwind that as needed. I leave a few feet hanging out of the middle so
I can plug into the mixer easily.

Just stay away from live sound will you ? You'd have lawsuits from all the ppl
who tripped over the reels.


The reels stay nicely tucked away under the desk - nobody is going to
trip over them.

Yes, you're clearly not familiar with live sound at all.

Graham

[Don Pearce]

On Sat, 26 May 2007 19:52:59 GMT, Eeyore
wrote:



Don Pearce wrote:

Eeyore wrote:
Don Pearce wrote:
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote:
Don Pearce wrote:
But do they sell by the meter? Jasee seems to want only a small amount.

What you do with mic cable is buy a reel and put a connector on each
end. When you just want a small amount, you don't unwind it. When you
want a lot, you unwind it. Easy.

You've not been involved much with mic cables, have you? ;-)

More than I care to say. Actually I would modify what I wrote. I
divide the reel into two, and make a stereo pair wound on the reel. I
unwind that as needed. I leave a few feet hanging out of the middle so
I can plug into the mixer easily.

Just stay away from live sound will you ? You'd have lawsuits from all the ppl
who tripped over the reels.


The reels stay nicely tucked away under the desk - nobody is going to
trip over them.

Yes, you're clearly not familiar with live sound at all.


Only from the playing point of vie, I'm afraid.

d

--
Pearce Consulting
http://www.pearce.uk.com

[Dave Plowman (News)]

In article ,
Don Pearce wrote:
What you do with mic cable is buy a reel and put a connector on each
end. When you just want a small amount, you don't unwind it. When you
want a lot, you unwind it. Easy.

You've not been involved much with mic cables, have you? ;-)

More than I care to say. Actually I would modify what I wrote. I
divide the reel into two, and make a stereo pair wound on the reel. I
unwind that as needed. I leave a few feet hanging out of the middle so
I can plug into the mixer easily.

Cable reels are a PITA - they take up far too much room - and long cables
are rarely needed anyway in my sort of job. If you had a long run you'd
use a snake since you'll likely need more than one circuit, even on a
basic single camera drama shoot.

The only drum I use regularly is for a stereo FX mic which gets run out
some way off. I use a single stereo cable on that - and tails to go
from a 5 pin XLR on the drum to the mixer. The reason for the drum is
simple - the cable gets filthy. ;-)

--
*Constipated People Don't Give A Crap*

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

[Ian Bell]

Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

Cable reels are a PITA - they take up far too much room - and long cables
are rarely needed anyway in my sort of job. If you had a long run you'd
use a snake since you'll likely need more than one circuit, even on a
basic single camera drama shoot.



Except the commonest form of snake in live situations is on a reel.
Studiospares best selling snake is:

http://www.studiospares.com/pd_58908...0324%2050m.htm

Ian

[Don Pearce]

On Sun, 27 May 2007 00:31:46 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

In article ,
Don Pearce wrote:
What you do with mic cable is buy a reel and put a connector on each
end. When you just want a small amount, you don't unwind it. When you
want a lot, you unwind it. Easy.

You've not been involved much with mic cables, have you? ;-)

More than I care to say. Actually I would modify what I wrote. I
divide the reel into two, and make a stereo pair wound on the reel. I
unwind that as needed. I leave a few feet hanging out of the middle so
I can plug into the mixer easily.

Cable reels are a PITA - they take up far too much room - and long cables
are rarely needed anyway in my sort of job. If you had a long run you'd
use a snake since you'll likely need more than one circuit, even on a
basic single camera drama shoot.

The only drum I use regularly is for a stereo FX mic which gets run out
some way off. I use a single stereo cable on that - and tails to go
from a 5 pin XLR on the drum to the mixer. The reason for the drum is
simple - the cable gets filthy. ;-)

Your circumstances are different to mine. In a studio you can
generally just grab a cable of the right length for the job off the
rack and run it out. I don't have that kind of storage room, so all my
cables are as long as I think I will ever need them (although I did
have to join three end to end once). I don't want to store them in a
loose loop either - that takes too much space as well. So they live on
reels in a cupboard. Sure I could run them right off the reels when I
deploy them, but because they are long they would then be snaking all
over the floor.

So there is method in my madness - where needs must, you find the best
way.

d

--
Pearce Consulting
http://www.pearce.uk.com