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I dug mine out of the closet and I'm considering using it in my home system.
It performed well, back in the 80's before the subwoofer thing came into
vogue, but now that I have a decent sub, I'm wondering if it's worth the
effort of patching it into my system. Opinions?
TIA
Joe Arnold


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"PanHandler" wrote in message
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I dug mine out of the closet and I'm considering using it in my home
system. It performed well, back in the 80's before the subwoofer thing came
into vogue, but now that I have a decent sub, I'm wondering if it's worth
the effort of patching it into my system. Opinions?
TIA


**Probably not, but they sure were fun in the day. Thing is, their major
advantage lay with their ability to manufacture bass which was not on the
recording, due to the limitations of the LP system. Now, with digital
sources, those issues have (theoretically) disappeared. Give it a try and
let us know what happens. I may dig mine out of storage, for yuks.


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Trevor Wilson wrote:

"PanHandler" wrote in message
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I dug mine out of the closet and I'm considering using it in my home
system. It performed well, back in the 80's before the subwoofer thing came
into vogue, but now that I have a decent sub, I'm wondering if it's worth
the effort of patching it into my system. Opinions?
TIA


**Probably not, but they sure were fun in the day. Thing is, their major
advantage lay with their ability to manufacture bass which was not on the
recording, due to the limitations of the LP system. Now, with digital
sources, those issues have (theoretically) disappeared. Give it a try and
let us know what happens. I may dig mine out of storage, for yuks.


Good for a laugh I guess ?

I wonder how different it is to BBE - SRS etc.

Graham

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"PanHandler" wrote in message
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I dug mine out of the closet and I'm considering using it in my home
system. It performed well, back in the 80's before the subwoofer thing
came into vogue, but now that I have a decent sub, I'm wondering if it's
worth the effort of patching it into my system. Opinions?
TIA


**Probably not, but they sure were fun in the day. Thing is, their major
advantage lay with their ability to manufacture bass which was not on the
recording, due to the limitations of the LP system. Now, with digital
sources, those issues have (theoretically) disappeared. Give it a try and
let us know what happens. I may dig mine out of storage, for yuks.


What about sources like CD's of old studio tracks, from tape, or songs
digitized from old vinyl, which I have thousands of? As I type this I'm
thinking of some of the ramifications of the mix of songs I have. When a
copy from vinyl comes up I'll have to ride the dbx to kick in some bass,
like I do in the car with the subs to suit different songs as required.
BTW - my unit is the original, model 110.
Joe


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BTW - my unit is the original, model 110.


I would have thought the model 100 came before that.

MrT.




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"PanHandler" wrote in message
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BTW - my unit is the original, model 110.


I would have thought the model 100 came before that.


Hmmm
I can't remember that far back, but there may have been a '100'. Nothing
comes up on a '100' in Google search. I believe I got my '110' in '79 or
'80, new.


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BTW - my unit is the original, model 110.


I would have thought the model 100 came before that.


Hmmm
I can't remember that far back, but there may have been a '100'. Nothing
comes up on a '100' in Google search.


Funny, I get a number of hits.

I believe I got my '110' in '79 or '80, new.


Sure, but what makes you think it's the original? I can't recall seeing any
before the model 100, but I wouldn't even claim that as the original without
being sure.
There was a model 120 though, so I highly doubt the 110 was the original.

MrT.


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Sure, but what makes you think it's the original? I can't recall seeing
any
before the model 100, but I wouldn't even claim that as the original
without
being sure.
There was a model 120 though, so I highly doubt the 110 was the original.


OK - How's this - Original to me. :-)


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OK - How's this - Original to me. :-)


So far, the only thing I've found (on eBay) is a manual for the '100'. On
the cover, it's referred to as the 'dbx Model 100 "Boom Box" (their
quotation marks on the cover).
http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...PCN_BIX_Stores
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I had one of those things. It was kinda' weird. It has only like 4 different
fixed frequency generators that are tuned to resonate with the music signal.
It doesn't work like I thought it would. It doesn't figure out the lowest
fundamental frequency and create a signal that is exactly half of that freq.
It's more like tuning all four strings on a bass guitar low and leaning it
up against your speaker. Whenever there is energy that would cause a
sympathetic vibration in one of the bass strings, that is what gets added to
the total signal. With some kinds of music that works OK. But for the most
part it muddies things up pretty bad.

James. )




"PanHandler" wrote in message
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I dug mine out of the closet and I'm considering using it in my home

system.
It performed well, back in the 80's before the subwoofer thing came into
vogue, but now that I have a decent sub, I'm wondering if it's worth the
effort of patching it into my system. Opinions?
TIA
Joe Arnold


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OK - How's this - Original to me. :-)


OK.

So far, the only thing I've found (on eBay) is a manual for the '100'. On
the cover, it's referred to as the 'dbx Model 100 "Boom Box" (their
quotation marks on the cover).


Yep, AFAIK that's the original. I still have one, not that's I have used it
for years though. Seems like everyone decided they were pointless once CD's
became their primary source. Not so much need for fake bass when you can
record down to DC anyway :-)

MrT.


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"James Lehman" wrote in message
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I had one of those things. It was kinda' weird. It has only like 4
different
fixed frequency generators that are tuned to resonate with the music
signal.
It doesn't work like I thought it would. It doesn't figure out the lowest
fundamental frequency and create a signal that is exactly half of that
freq.
It's more like tuning all four strings on a bass guitar low and leaning it
up against your speaker. Whenever there is energy that would cause a
sympathetic vibration in one of the bass strings, that is what gets added
to
the total signal. With some kinds of music that works OK. But for the most
part it muddies things up pretty bad.

James. )


We used to use them on the PA on big Raves, and they were very much as you
described. You could, for instance, get those Servodrive Subs generating
rather pleasing noises/feelings which you couldn't do with EQ. As a Sub
effect they were interesting and good fun, but thats what they are, an
effects box.



Gareth.


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Tried my old 120X-DS on an Onkyo THX certified receiver, and it addeed
distortion-most likely preamp overload. In it's day though, it was a
killer add-on. I used an outboard Kenwood Basic M2-A amp driving a pair
of Cerwin Vega 12's in a ported car audio box with the 120X providing
the lows-and it would shake the foundation of a house easily! But now
you can duplicate this effect with a decent 12-15" sub and average
quality home theater stuff....so no need! But e-bay will get you a good
buck outta one of those units-I think I got over $200 out of my 120X-DS
several years ago....
Marc

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OK - How's this - Original to me. :-)



OK.


So far, the only thing I've found (on eBay) is a manual for the '100'. On
the cover, it's referred to as the 'dbx Model 100 "Boom Box" (their
quotation marks on the cover).



Yep, AFAIK that's the original. I still have one, not that's I have used it
for years though. Seems like everyone decided they were pointless once CD's
became their primary source. Not so much need for fake bass when you can
record down to DC anyway :-)

MrT.


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