I wasn't if this was the right group for this question. If there's a
better one, please let me know.

Is there a way to toggle between listening to TV using wireless
headphones and using the TV's speakers? The problem is the TV outputs
are inaccessible -- the TV is in a cabinet and output jacks are on the
back -- so I can't just plug the wireless transmitter in when using it.

TIA,
--Charlene


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all the little pop tarts who are invited to perform it at ball games.
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"Charlene Charette" wrote ...
I wasn't if this was the right group for this question. If there's a
better one, please let me know.

Is there a way to toggle between listening to TV using wireless
headphones and using the TV's speakers? The problem is the TV outputs
are inaccessible -- the TV is in a cabinet and output jacks are on the
back -- so I can't just plug the wireless transmitter in when using
it.

Doesn't seem very likely. Unfortunately, when you insert
the connector into the TV's output jack, it breaks the internal
connection to the speaker, and nothing can restore that
connection short of physically pulling the plug out of the
jack. :-(

If you wanted to have the TV set modified, it could be done,
but it is quite likely cost/benefit prohibitive.

On Sat, 24 Jun 2006 15:55:41 -0500, Charlene Charette
wrote:

Is there a way to toggle between listening to TV using wireless
headphones and using the TV's speakers? The problem is the TV outputs
are inaccessible -- the TV is in a cabinet and output jacks are on the
back -- so I can't just plug the wireless transmitter in when using it.

I don't think there's an easy answer. The headphone jack doubtless
acts as a switch, cutting out the internal speakers. So a simple
extension cable won't work. If your hi-fi system is around the TV you
could feed TV audio out to that, bypass the internal TV speakers
completely and switch between hi-fi speakers and headphones.

That'll teach you to confine your TV in a nasty cabinet! Apart from
encouraging overheating and maybe messing up the sound, it stops you
getting to outputs you NEED to get to.

How about using the line-level outputs for the transmitter? On most
TVs, you can control whether the built-in speakers are on/off from the
remote even when the line outs are used.

Kal

On Sat, 24 Jun 2006 15:55:41 -0500, Charlene Charette
wrote:

I wasn't if this was the right group for this question. If there's a
better one, please let me know.

Is there a way to toggle between listening to TV using wireless
headphones and using the TV's speakers? The problem is the TV outputs
are inaccessible -- the TV is in a cabinet and output jacks are on the
back -- so I can't just plug the wireless transmitter in when using it.

TIA,
--Charlene


--
Our national anthem is a great song that has been seriously abused by
all the little pop tarts who are invited to perform it at ball games.
-- Garrison Keillor


email perronnellec at earthlink . net

Charlene Charette wrote:
I wasn't if this was the right group for this question. If there's a
better one, please let me know.

Is there a way to toggle between listening to TV using wireless
headphones and using the TV's speakers? The problem is the TV outputs
are inaccessible -- the TV is in a cabinet and output jacks are on the
back -- so I can't just plug the wireless transmitter in when using
it.


Get an extension cable that can come around the side to be accessable from
the front.

geoff

"Geoff" wrote in message
...
Charlene Charette wrote:
I wasn't if this was the right group for this question. If there's a
better one, please let me know.

Is there a way to toggle between listening to TV using wireless
headphones and using the TV's speakers? The problem is the TV
outputs
are inaccessible -- the TV is in a cabinet and output jacks are on
the
back -- so I can't just plug the wireless transmitter in when using
it.


Get an extension cable that can come around the side to be accessable
from the front.

But as long as the extention cable is plugged in, it is likely
that it will cut off the internal speaker(s).

Richard Crowley wrote:


Get an extension cable that can come around the side to be accessable
from the front.

But as long as the extention cable is plugged in, it is likely
that it will cut off the internal speaker(s).

I'm not sure that we established that a 'heaphone' (or switching) output
was actually being being used...

Headphone transmitters usually run out of an AV-out jack, which usually runs
indepandantly of speaker volume/muting.

geoff

"Geoff" wrote ...
Richard Crowley wrote:


Get an extension cable that can come around the side to be
accessable
from the front.

But as long as the extention cable is plugged in, it is likely
that it will cut off the internal speaker(s).

I'm not sure that we established that a 'heaphone' (or switching)
output was actually being being used...

Headphone transmitters usually run out of an AV-out jack, which
usually runs indepandantly of speaker volume/muting.

True, but then you don't necessarily have control over
the built-in TV speaker(s).

To the OP: As you can see, this doesn't hold up very
well as a generic question. It depends A LOT on the
specific make/model and what features it has.

Richard Crowley wrote:

True, but then you don't necessarily have control over
the built-in TV speaker(s).

Mute button and volume control ?
These don't usually affect "Monitor Outs" or whatever....

To the OP: As you can see, this doesn't hold up very
well as a generic question. It depends A LOT on the
specific make/model and what features it has.

Yes, more info needed.

geoff

On Sun, 25 Jun 2006 18:33:49 -0700, Richard Crowley wrote:



"Geoff" wrote in message
m...
Charlene Charette wrote:
I wasn't if this was the right group for this question. If there's a
better one, please let me know.

Is there a way to toggle between listening to TV using wireless
headphones and using the TV's speakers? The problem is the TV
outputs
are inaccessible -- the TV is in a cabinet and output jacks are on
the
back -- so I can't just plug the wireless transmitter in when using
it.


Get an extension cable that can come around the side to be accessable
from the front.

But as long as the extention cable is plugged in, it is likely
that it will cut off the internal speaker(s).

That's a good thing. What is the point of using headphones if you
also going to use the speakers?

AZ Nomad wrote:
On Sun, 25 Jun 2006 18:33:49 -0700, Richard Crowley wrote:




"Geoff" wrote in message
om...

Charlene Charette wrote:

I wasn't if this was the right group for this question. If there's a
better one, please let me know.

Is there a way to toggle between listening to TV using wireless
headphones and using the TV's speakers? The problem is the TV
outputs
are inaccessible -- the TV is in a cabinet and output jacks are on
the
back -- so I can't just plug the wireless transmitter in when using
it.


Get an extension cable that can come around the side to be accessable
from the front.


But as long as the extention cable is plugged in, it is likely
that it will cut off the internal speaker(s).


That's a good thing. What is the point of using headphones if you
also going to use the speakers?


You might want to do this if someone in your household is hearing
impaired and needs headphones to turn up the volume while the rest of
the family listens to the TV at a normal volume.

--Charlene


--
Our national anthem is a great song that has been seriously abused by
all the little pop tarts who are invited to perform it at ball games.
-- Garrison Keillor


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Richard Crowley wrote:

To the OP: As you can see, this doesn't hold up very
well as a generic question. It depends A LOT on the
specific make/model and what features it has.

I'm pretty good at troubleshooting computers and can ask the right
questions, but when it comes to A/V I'm not so good. So if this doesn't
give what you need, let me know.

The TV is a Symphonic ST427FF (the manual is online at
http://www.symphonic.us/pdf/om/ST427FF.pdf , but when I just tried to
open it Adobe balked).

The only outputs are the two RCA (R & L) jacks. The only audio menu
options a Main | Mono | SAP.

The TV and the stereo equipment are at opposite ends of the room, so
going through the stereo isn't really an option (and there's so many
components hooked up there, I'm not sure there are any jacks left, anyways).

As for the cabinet, the TV is in a corner so even if it weren't in a
cabinet I wouldn't be able to easily get to the back of it to plug in
and unplug the headphones.

Unless there is a better solution, I'm leaning towards getting a set of
speakers just for the TV. If the speakers have a headphone jack I can
plug into that other; otherwise I'll need some sort of multi-speaker switch.


Thanks for your help,
--Charlene



--
Our national anthem is a great song that has been seriously abused by
all the little pop tarts who are invited to perform it at ball games.
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On Tue, 27 Jun 2006 00:12:10 -0500, Charlene Charette
wrote:

That's a good thing. What is the point of using headphones if you
also going to use the speakers?


You might want to do this if someone in your household is hearing
impaired and needs headphones to turn up the volume while the rest of
the family listens to the TV at a normal volume.

Very inventive. IS this the case here?

"Charlene Charette" wrote ...
Richard Crowley wrote:

To the OP: As you can see, this doesn't hold up very
well as a generic question. It depends A LOT on the
specific make/model and what features it has.

I'm pretty good at troubleshooting computers and can ask the right
questions, but when it comes to A/V I'm not so good. So if this
doesn't give what you need, let me know.

The TV is a Symphonic ST427FF (the manual is online at
http://www.symphonic.us/pdf/om/ST427FF.pdf , but when I just tried to
open it Adobe balked).

The only outputs are the two RCA (R & L) jacks. The only audio menu
options a Main | Mono | SAP.

The TV and the stereo equipment are at opposite ends of the room, so
going through the stereo isn't really an option (and there's so many
components hooked up there, I'm not sure there are any jacks left,
anyways).

As for the cabinet, the TV is in a corner so even if it weren't in a
cabinet I wouldn't be able to easily get to the back of it to plug in
and unplug the headphones.

Unless there is a better solution, I'm leaning towards getting a set
of speakers just for the TV. If the speakers have a headphone jack I
can plug into that other; otherwise I'll need some sort of
multi-speaker switch.

Good. I think you're on the right track here.
You apparently have only line-level outputs, and
there is no "mute" function on your remote.
That means you will need to take the line-level
out of the TV and feed it into both the wireless
headphone transmitter, and an amplifer (or a pair
of amplified speakers) for the TV sound.

Routing the line-level output to two different places
(the transmitter and the speaker amplifer) should be
no problem, you can likely just use a simple "Y-
adapter" and have them both connected all the time.
OTOH, you could just connect the transmitter to the
line-level outputs from the TV and use the built-in
speakers, assuming the TV volume control does NOT
control the line-level outputs, but only the speakers.

"Charlene Charette" wrote in message
...
Richard Crowley wrote:

To the OP: As you can see, this doesn't hold up very
well as a generic question. It depends A LOT on the
specific make/model and what features it has.

I'm pretty good at troubleshooting computers and can ask the right
questions, but when it comes to A/V I'm not so good. So if this doesn't
give what you need, let me know.

The TV is a Symphonic ST427FF (the manual is online at
http://www.symphonic.us/pdf/om/ST427FF.pdf , but when I just tried to open
it Adobe balked).

It opened just fine for me using Adobe Reader 7.0.

The only outputs are the two RCA (R & L) jacks. The only audio menu
options a Main | Mono | SAP.

The manual doesn't say, but I'm guessing that using the Audio Output jacks
on the back of the TV automatically turns off output to the TV's speakers.
Also, I'm guessing that the Audio Output jacks will have variable output
(i.e. the volume control on the remote will control the volume level out of
these jacks).

The TV and the stereo equipment are at opposite ends of the room, so going
through the stereo isn't really an option (and there's so many components
hooked up there, I'm not sure there are any jacks left, anyways).

As for the cabinet, the TV is in a corner so even if it weren't in a
cabinet I wouldn't be able to easily get to the back of it to plug in and
unplug the headphones.

Unless there is a better solution, I'm leaning towards getting a set of
speakers just for the TV. If the speakers have a headphone jack I can
plug into that other; otherwise I'll need some sort of multi-speaker
switch.

If my assumptions above are correct, this seems like a good solution. You'd
want amplified speakers, like the ones commonly sold as PC speakers, since
the audio output on the TV will surely be line level. If you still want to
use the wireless headphones without plugging and unplugging connections, you
could easily attach two Y RCA cables (one for left and one for right) to the
TV's outputs and run one to the amplified speaker input and one to the
wireless headphone input. Without messing with cables, you could then you
could use either speakers or headphones or you could run both the speakers
and headphones at the same time. You simply turn on or off the amplified
speakers and headphones as desired.

Depending on the quality you want (I'm assuming casual TV listening), a set
of amplified PC speakers can be had as cheaply as $10 to $30. It doesn't
take much to surpass the quality of the speakers built into a typical TV.

Jeff
--
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a
little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor
safety"
- B. Franklin, Bartlett's Familiar Quotations (1919)

Headphone transmitters usually run out of an AV-out jack, which usually runs
indepandantly of speaker volume/muting.

This is the case with mine; the headphone jack on my receiver does not
automatically cut off the speakers. Which is preferable, as I could
simply leave them plugged in, and use them whenever I wanted; if only I
could remotely drop off the A/B speaker channels on my amp; I don't
think it's doable by remote. I'm such a lazy bugger.

Jeff Findley wrote:

The manual doesn't say, but I'm guessing that using the Audio Output
jacks on the back of the TV automatically turns off output to the
TV's speakers. Also, I'm guessing that the Audio Output jacks will
have variable output (i.e. the volume control on the remote will
control the volume level out of these jacks).

I say you are most likely wrong on both counts. Those jacks are primarily
for recording broadcast TV to a VCR.

geoff

Laurence Payne wrote:
On Tue, 27 Jun 2006 00:12:10 -0500, Charlene Charette
wrote:


That's a good thing. What is the point of using headphones if you
also going to use the speakers?


You might want to do this if someone in your household is hearing
impaired and needs headphones to turn up the volume while the rest of
the family listens to the TV at a normal volume.


Very inventive. IS this the case here?

Not the problem in my case; I found this scenario when trying to Google
a solution for my situation. My main problem is someone watching TV in
living room interfering with someone sleeping in the adjoinging bedroom.
I figure an audio solution is bound to be cheaper and easier than
ripping out drywall and insulating/soundproofing the wall. :-)

--Charlene


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all the little pop tarts who are invited to perform it at ball games.
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"Laurence Payne" lpayne1NOSPAM@dslDOTpipexDOTcom wrote in message
...
You might want to do this if someone in your household is hearing
impaired and needs headphones to turn up the volume while the rest of
the family listens to the TV at a normal volume.

Very inventive.

Not really. Pretty much standard practice for many people. Headphones give
better sound quality than using a hearing aid, but do have the disadvantage
(or advantage?) that they can't hear any conversation going on in the room.

MrT.

"Geoff" wrote in message
...
Jeff Findley wrote:

The manual doesn't say, but I'm guessing that using the Audio Output
jacks on the back of the TV automatically turns off output to the
TV's speakers. Also, I'm guessing that the Audio Output jacks will
have variable output (i.e. the volume control on the remote will
control the volume level out of these jacks).

I say you are most likely wrong on both counts. Those jacks are primarily
for recording broadcast TV to a VCR.

If you're right, then the original poster ought to be able to attach the
wireless headphones to those jacks without any other equipment. The volume
control on the TV will still operate the TV's speakers, while the volume for
the wireless headphones will have to be adjusted using its volume control
(hopefully they have one).

Jeff
--
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a
little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor
safety"
- B. Franklin, Bartlett's Familiar Quotations (1919)

"Kalman Rubinson" wrote in message



On Sat, 24 Jun 2006 15:55:41 -0500, Charlene Charette
wrote:

I wasn't if this was the right group for this question.
If there's a better one, please let me know.

Is there a way to toggle between listening to TV using
wireless headphones and using the TV's speakers? The
problem is the TV outputs are inaccessible -- the TV is
in a cabinet and output jacks are on the back -- so I
can't just plug the wireless transmitter in when using
it.

How about using the line-level outputs for the
transmitter? On most TVs, you can control whether the
built-in speakers are on/off from the remote even when
the line outs are used.

That's similar to the solution I hit on for a similar problem.

Instead of trying to use the amplifier and speakers in the TV set which are
usually crap, I use a cheap stereo receiver and some bookshelf speakers that
I had around the house. The reciever (Sherwood 2-channel) cost less than
$100 and has remote control for just about all of its functions, including
both speaker outputs.

I just run the receiver from the line-level outputs of the TV and setup the
TV to disable its internal speakers and power amps. The receiver has the
outputs and controls required to interface with most kinds of audio gear
including a headphone jack and tape outputs.

"Jeff Findley" wrote in message
...
while the volume for
the wireless headphones will have to be adjusted using its volume control
(hopefully they have one).

I can't imagine any wireless headphones that don't.
For wired types you can use an inline headphone attenuator, readily
available at low cost.

MrT.