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Bill wrote: "en to the old stuff on disk, but hear
the newer stuff via internet radio. I don't think the difference is the fault of Optimod, though (if that is used on the internet feed)," I certainly HOPE not! "as the older recordings still sound good on that internet feed. -- " Older recordings tend to hold up better through a broadcast - or streaming - chain. |
#42
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On 7/5/2019 7:49 AM, Scott Dorsey wrote:
gray_wolf wrote: On 7/4/2019 8:49 AM, Scott Dorsey wrote: geoff wrote: In the case of much classical music, the composer hadn't even considered the possibility of there being any sort of 'recording'. So the performance 'artifacts' were expected. A really really good discussion of this is in Phillips' _Performing Music In the Age of recording_ which has some digressions but is well worth reading for anyone interested in western art music. And even in current times such music is composed with the aim being performance, not manicured manufactured recordings. Not half enough, if you ask me. I was listening to some Benny Goodman big band stuff. Those guys played!! How could you record that in a studio? The same way the Goodman band did. With a couple microphones and a whole lot of musicians and charts. --scott The first 10 minutes or more of the 1942 movie "Orchestra Wives" takes place in a recording studio with Glenn Miller and his Orchestra and others. It might be a great example of how they recorded it, although I don't know how much of it was staged for the sake of the movie. John Hardy |
#43
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On 7/5/2019 4:01 PM, John Hardy wrote:
On 7/5/2019 7:49 AM, Scott Dorsey wrote: gray_wolf* wrote: On 7/4/2019 8:49 AM, Scott Dorsey wrote: geoff* wrote: In the case of much classical music, the composer hadn't even considered the possibility of there being any sort of 'recording'. So the performance 'artifacts' were expected. A really really good discussion of this is in Phillips' _Performing Music In the Age of recording_ which has some digressions but is well worth reading for anyone interested in western art music. And even in current times such music is composed with the aim being performance, not manicured manufactured recordings. Not half enough, if you ask me. I was listening to some Benny Goodman big band stuff. Those guys played!! How could you record that in a studio? The same way the Goodman band did.* With a couple microphones and a whole lot of musicians and charts. --scott The first 10 minutes or more of the 1942 movie "Orchestra Wives" takes place in a recording studio with Glenn Miller and his Orchestra and others. It might be a great example of how they recorded it, although I don't know how much of it was staged for the sake of the movie. John Hardy It's the first 6 minutes or so of the movie: https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q...148A&FORM=VIRE John Hardy |
#44
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On Friday, July 5, 2019 at 12:25:56 PM UTC-4, Bill wrote:
I should perhaps say that I listen to the old stuff on disk, but hear the newer stuff via internet radio. I don't think the difference is the fault of Optimod, though (if that is used on the internet feed), as the older recordings still sound good on that internet feed. -- Bill Hi Bill, I'm guessing that the new stuff you hear streaming has been processed and data reduced to stream. That may explain its flatness. When I was in FM radio in Baltimore at WIFF-FM, we had an Optimod. I had friends down the road in DC who would sometimes ask what we had in front of the optimod to make it sound so good. I told them, "a piece of cable." The problem with optimods is not the optimod, it's the people (mis)adjusting them. Regards, Ty Ford |
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Ty Ford wrote: "I'm guessing that the new stuff you hear streaming has been processed and data
reduced to stream. That may explain its flatness. " Digital, streaming(unless at dial up speeds) do nothing "to" the audio. Processing does. |
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#47
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John Williamson:
I was just explaining to Ty that data-compression does not affect dynamics of music. It does, however, add some metallic swirlies at the lower rates you mentioned. |
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Theckmaaaah the village idiot theckmah @ shortbus . edu
wrote in message ... I was just explaining to Ty No, you were not explaining. that data-compression does not affect dynamics of music. Retarded dumb-**** pretends to "explain" something he obviously does not understand. It does, however, add some metallic swirlies Sure, li'l buddy. Swirlies. Yeah, that'll make people think you're smart. LKDHAFQ. FKWAFA! |
#49
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On Saturday, July 6, 2019 at 3:38:58 PM UTC-4, wrote:
Ty Ford wrote: "I'm guessing that the new stuff you hear streaming has been processed and data reduced to stream. That may explain its flatness. " Digital, streaming(unless at dial up speeds) do nothing "to" the audio. Processing does. Tell that to Sirius/XM...Hahahahaha |
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On Sunday, July 7, 2019 at 8:01:38 AM UTC-4, None wrote:
Theckmaaaah the village idiot theckmah @ shortbus . edu wrote in message ... I was just explaining to Ty No, you were not explaining. that data-compression does not affect dynamics of music. Retarded dumb-**** pretends to "explain" something he obviously does not understand. It does, however, add some metallic swirlies Sure, li'l buddy. Swirlies. Yeah, that'll make people think you're smart. LKDHAFQ. FKWAFA! Off your meds again, I see. Sorry. |
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Ty Ford wrote: "Off your meds again, I see. Sorry. "
Ty - Do NOT respond to IT! |
#52
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Theckhmah K. Dumb****
wrote in message ... Ty - Do NOT respond to IT! Youre still not the moderator, li'l buddy. You respond to my posts more than anyone else does. QEDF. FKWAFA. DF. |
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#54
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geoff wrote: "
Hey, Noone might be extreme, but he does share the sentiments of most here I'm sure - that it is bizarre that of anybody, you should be trying to explain anything to do with recording technology, or sound, to anybody. geoff" And exactly what do you mean by "of anybody", geoff? And if you are trying to defend IT, then you are just lowering yourself to IT's level. |
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Li'l Theckmie-Pie wrote in message
... And exactly what do you mean by "of anybody", geoff? Reading comprehension issues, li'l buddy? And if you are trying to defend IT, then you are just lowering yourself to IT's level. Need a tissue, li'l buddy? |
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#57
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geoff wrote: "
Hey, Noone might be extreme, but he does share the sentiments of most here I'm sure - that it is bizarre that of anybody, you should be trying to explain anything to do with recording technology, or sound, to anybody. geoff" And exactly what do you mean by "of anybody", geoff? The anachronism of you with your demonstrated level of 'knowledge' attempting to teach those who have already forgotten more than you will ever know, how to suck eggs. Not trying to defend anybody. Said my piece. Over and out. geoff" geoff: I can understand concepts far better than I am able to articulate them. Been that way all my life. All I ask of you is to tell me what YOU - and orhers - think I don't understand |
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Li'l Theckie-pie pleaded
All I ask of you is to tell me what YOU - and orhers - think I don't understand 1: Audio. 2: Numbers. 3: Usenet. That should keep you busy whining for a while, li'l buddy. |
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Usenet - You all need more meds. Period.
There's a moderator? On Usenet? **** that! Regards, Ty Ford |
#60
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On 08/07/2019 16:40, Ty Ford wrote:
Usenet - You all need more meds. Period. There's a moderator? On Usenet? **** that! Grin That would be rec.audio.pro.moderated. HTH. I'll submit an RFC to the authorities when I get a round tuit to see whether anyone wants it. Or we could always set up a Facebook group called rec.audio.pro, and let those who want to, fight over being administrators. -- Tciao for Now! John. |
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On 7/8/2019 3:17 PM, John Williamson wrote:
Or we could always set up a Facebook group called rec.audio.pro, and let those who want to, fight over being administrators. Or try Pro Recording Workshop at https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/prorecordingworkshop/ Moderated, serious professionals hang out there, and only a limited amount of nonsense is tolerated. -- For a good time, call http://mikeriversaudio.wordpress.com |
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On 08/07/2019 21:59, Mike Rivers wrote:
On 7/8/2019 3:17 PM, John Williamson wrote: Or we could always set up a Facebook group called rec.audio.pro, and let those who want to, fight over being administrators. Or try Pro Recording Workshop at https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/prorecordingworkshop/ Moderated, serious professionals hang out there, and only a limited amount of nonsense is tolerated. Now lurking as johnwilliamson1 -- Tciao for Now! John. |
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On 7/8/2019 2:17 PM, John Williamson wrote:
On 08/07/2019 16:40, Ty Ford wrote: Usenet - You all need more meds. Period. There's a moderator? On Usenet? **** that! Grin That would be rec.audio.pro.moderated. HTH. I'll submit an RFC to the authorities when I get a round tuit to see whether anyone wants it. Or we could always set up a Facebook group called rec.audio.pro, and let those who want to, fight over being administrators. Good idea! Private Yahoo groups work well, especially for the owner. There's a certain satisfaction with permanently banning an asshole member. It's free, doesn't require a Usenet server. It doesn't require any Usenet apps. You can sent photos and such. There is free storage for the group for photos, FYIs, announcements & etc. It can be spam free. I've been on quite a few for the past 23 years. |
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On 7/8/2019 9:05 AM, None wrote:
Li'l Theckie-pie pleaded All I ask of you is to tell me what YOU - and others - think I don't understand 1: Audio. 2: Numbers. 3: Usenet. That should keep you busy whining for a while, li'l buddy. I've seen a few newsgroups ruined by people like this except the were more talented and psycho than our 'friend'. There were very adapt at avoiding killfile filters and bomb posting garbage. I've known a few women that had no idea of how stupid there really were in some areas. I had a dear aunt tell my uncle that the reason his car wouldn't start was because the bumper guard needed tightening. rolls eyes |
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On 9/07/2019 9:04 AM, gray_wolf wrote:
On 7/8/2019 2:17 PM, John Williamson wrote: On 08/07/2019 16:40, Ty Ford wrote: Usenet - You all need more meds. Period. There's a moderator? On Usenet? **** that! Grin That would be rec.audio.pro.moderated. HTH. I'll submit an RFC to the authorities when I get a round tuit to see whether anyone wants it. Or we could always set up a Facebook group called rec.audio.pro, and let those who want to, fight over being administrators. Good idea! Private Yahoo groups work well, especially for the owner. There's a certain satisfaction with permanently banning an asshole member. It's free, doesn't require a Usenet server. It doesn't require any Usenet apps. You can sent photos and such. There is free storage for the group for photos, FYIs, announcements & etc. It can be spam free. I've been on quite a few for the past 23 years. I have one . Was prolific in its heyday, but has been pretty much dead for a few years now ;-( geoff |
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On 7/8/2019 4:34 PM, geoff wrote:
On 9/07/2019 9:04 AM, gray_wolf wrote: On 7/8/2019 2:17 PM, John Williamson wrote: On 08/07/2019 16:40, Ty Ford wrote: Usenet - You all need more meds. Period. There's a moderator? On Usenet? **** that! Grin That would be rec.audio.pro.moderated. HTH. I'll submit an RFC to the authorities when I get a round tuit to see whether anyone wants it. Or we could always set up a Facebook group called rec.audio.pro, and let those who want to, fight over being administrators. Good idea! Private Yahoo groups work well, especially for the owner. There's a certain satisfaction with permanently banning an asshole member. It's free, doesn't require a Usenet server. It doesn't require any Usenet apps. You can sent photos and such. There is free storage for the group for photos, FYIs, announcements & etc. It can be spam free. I've been on quite a few for the past 23 years. I have one . Was prolific in its heyday, but has been pretty much dead for a few years now ;-( geoff Yes, they seem to go through a cycle. I was on a number of mail lists in the beginning. Usenet was popular for a while then came the web forums. I guess facebook is top dog now. I think only we hardened old-timers are still on Usenet with the exception of a few idiots nowadays. It would be very entertaining the to see the really bad-ass creative flamers in action again. Even the more innocent wore asbestos underwear back then when newsgroups were the digital wild-west. I think life was more fun back then. |
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