hello

i'm still having a hard time deciding which monitors to buy. i can't afford
a 1500$ pair, not even a 700$ pair. Monitors below this price get various
reviews and you'll ALWAYS find one guy complaint about every model.

Of course you'll tell me "buy what your ears like" or "you'll grow with
them", but hey i'm not a pro, and i just want something that will make my
mix sound good on as much system as it can. i don't spend 10 hours a day in
my home-studio so if they sound harsh i don't care.

now i just want the cheapest monitors with the best frequency response for
the price. but there is my problem :

WHY IS IT SO HARD TO FIND the FREQUENCY RESPONSE CURVE for every MONITORS
under 700$ ? isn't it what matters the most after all ? it's very easy to
find them for microphones, why is it so hard with monitors ? i found a few,
but most of them can't be found.

is there any website comparing semi-pro monitors and offering their
respective frequency response curve?

thanks
soupe

Soupe,

WHY IS IT SO HARD TO FIND the FREQUENCY RESPONSE CURVE for every MONITORS
under 700$ ?

All the semi-pro and better monitors I see include full specs. Though not
always distortion which is extremely important.

isn't it what matters the most after all ?

Yes it's important, but there are other factors. And no matter how flat your
speakers are, they will vary by literally 20 dB or more as soon as you put
them in a typical room. I'd rather have mediocre speakers in a great
sounding room than the other way around.

--Ethan

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www.realtraps.com
The acoustic treatment experts

soupe de salade wrote:

WHY IS IT SO HARD TO FIND the FREQUENCY RESPONSE CURVE for every MONITORS
under 700$ ? isn't it what matters the most after all ? it's very easy to
find them for microphones, why is it so hard with monitors ? i found a few,
but most of them can't be found.

Please understand that looking at frequency response curves for
lougspeakers will tell you nothing about how they really sound to you in
your room. In the first place, what assurance do you have that thsoe
curves were generated in an unbiased, scientific and competent manner?
In the second plac, exactly what does ink on paper really sound like?

Think about it. If you're buying speakers from looking at a piece of
paper, just get whatever you think will appeal to you. If it doesn't
appeal to you after you've bought it, try looking at a different piece
of paper.

Unless you listen in your own room it's a gamble. Next best is to
audiition speakers in a decent showroom using material with which you
are familiar.

--
hank alrich * secret mountain
audio recording * music production * sound reinforcement
"If laughter is the best medicine let's take a double dose"

LeBaron & Alrich wrote:
soupe de salade wrote:

WHY IS IT SO HARD TO FIND the FREQUENCY RESPONSE CURVE for every MONITORS
under 700$ ? isn't it what matters the most after all ? it's very easy to
find them for microphones, why is it so hard with monitors ? i found a few,
but most of them can't be found.

Please understand that looking at frequency response curves for
lougspeakers will tell you nothing about how they really sound to you in
your room. In the first place, what assurance do you have that thsoe
curves were generated in an unbiased, scientific and competent manner?
In the second plac, exactly what does ink on paper really sound like?

A waterfall plot, though, WILL actually tell you something about how speakers
will sound. You can't get that either.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

In article writes:

WHY IS IT SO HARD TO FIND the FREQUENCY RESPONSE CURVE for every MONITORS
under 700$ ? isn't it what matters the most after all ?

No, it matters practically less than anything. The frequency response
at your ears is what matters the most. While the room won't create
frequencies that don't come out of the speaker, it creates more
anomalies and irregularities than the speaker, and that varies from
room to room, and with the relative position of the speaker and
listener in the room.

I don't want you to get the impression that the ability of a speaker
to reproduce sounds accurately and linearly isn't important. It is
very important. But those things don't show up on a spec sheet. If you
see a frequency response curve of a speaker, I guarantee that you
won't be able to measure anything even close to that in your room.
Curves that you see published are for marketing purposes.

Another graph that you either don't see very often or that's so
generic as to be meaningless, is the polar pattern - in what direction
and at what relative sound pressure level it radiates which
frequencies. Knowing (only) what it does at 1 kHz doesn't tell you
where you'll have to sit in order to be able to hear 10 kHz from that
speaker.

Even if you're not a pro, choose your speakers by how they sound to
you in your room. Don't be afraid to buy something and return it if it
doesn't work for you. But don't expect miracles for under $700 either.


--
I'm really Mike Rivers - )