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Toyota Stereo Options/Wiring Harness
Hi. My wife just gave me the go-ahead to replace the factory double-din CD
and cass. player in our 1998 Toyota Sienna. Now, before I did anything, I went online to www.installer.com to see what was available for harnesses to plug into the factory harness once I remove the radio. After doing a quick google search and finding a few newsgroup articles, it seems apparent that there are some issues with aftermarket harnesses. From what I've read, some of the pins don't match up, the wiring is not right and the above website seems to be the only one who has the right harness. My trouble is, I'm not sure which Toyota system I have. Mine is actually two seperate DIN units, one is the radio with cass. deck and the other is just a standalone CD player. Both have Toyota printed on the face, so I'm assuming these are not aftermarket Bose or Delco type systems. I'm going to check the manual, but I don't recall there being much detail in it. Apparently, there may also be a factory amp mounted under the storage in the center console, that may have to be bypassed. Anyone know much about the Toyota factory stereo options and aftermarket harnesses? The second problem I ran into is trying to remove the mid-panel speakers. They are fastened to a plastic adaptor with screws and apparently adhesive of some sort. With the screws removed, the speaker will not budge. I know I could easily take a glass bar and mallet and try to break them free, but I don't want to damage the plastic mounting adaptor. Is there any secrets to removing these, or should I just keep working at it with the glass bar? Are the front door speakers the same way, or are they just screwed to the metal door frame like most door speakers? Third, seeing as how we have a three year old daughter, and I already have an Almani DVD single-DIN receiver I plan to use, I would like to purchase a pair of headrests with monitors already mounted in place. I've seen a bunch on Ebay, but I'm honestly not sure if they're any good or garbage. I just want a monitor, prefer with remote, without a DVD player built in, I'll let the receiver handle that. Any reccomendations would be welcome. Thanks for any help, Sharky |
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Hey Sharky,
First, I recommend using the Crutchfield tool (http:// http://www.crutchfield.com/cgi-bin/a...%2fMyCar..aspx) for outfitting your specific vehicle. It's pretty intuitive, and they have superb customer service - so if you get the wrong wiring harness, they'll almost certainly accomodate you and send out the right one. Actually - based on the information you already put down, I did a search on Crutchfield and came up with this wiring harness: http://www.crutchfield.com/p_1207017...s.html?tp=2977.. Second, that plastic adapter will pry off. I just worked on a '97 Camry, and was not pleased with this setup at all. What I did was actually unscrew the plastic adapter and take the whole assembly out (speaker and plastic adapter). Once you have that out as one piece, the speaker will come out with a fair amount of force (hey, you're not using the speaker again, so don't worry about breaking it)... Third... I have no idea about this one, so I'll leave it for someone else to answer. Have Fun! ~Mister.Lull On Feb 8, 6:07*am, "Sharky" wrote: Hi. *My wife just gave me the go-ahead to replace the factory double-din CD and cass. player in our 1998 Toyota Sienna. *Now, before I did anything, I went online towww.installer.comto see what was available for harnesses to plug into the factory harness once I remove the radio. *After doing a quick google search and finding a few newsgroup articles, it seems apparent that there are some issues with aftermarket harnesses. *From what I've read, some of the pins don't match up, the wiring is not right and the above website seems to be the only one who has the right harness. *My trouble is, I'm not sure which Toyota system I have. *Mine is actually two seperate DIN units, one is the radio with cass. deck and the other is just a standalone CD player. *Both have Toyota printed on the face, so I'm assuming these are not aftermarket Bose or Delco type systems. *I'm going to check the manual, but I don't recall there being much detail in it. *Apparently, there may also be a factory amp mounted under the storage in the center console, that may have to be bypassed. *Anyone know much about the Toyota factory stereo options and aftermarket harnesses? The second problem I ran into is trying to remove the mid-panel speakers. They are fastened to a plastic adaptor with screws and apparently adhesive of some sort. *With the screws removed, the speaker will not budge. *I know I could easily take a glass bar and mallet and try to break them free, but I don't want to damage the plastic mounting adaptor. *Is there any secrets to removing these, or should I just keep working at it with the glass bar? *Are the front door speakers the same way, or are they just screwed to the metal door frame like most door speakers? Third, seeing as how we have a three year old daughter, and I already have an Almani DVD single-DIN receiver I plan to use, I would like to purchase a pair of headrests with monitors already mounted in place. *I've seen a bunch on Ebay, but I'm honestly not sure if they're any good or garbage. *I just want a monitor, prefer with remote, without a DVD player built in, I'll let the receiver handle that. *Any reccomendations would be welcome. Thanks for any help, Sharky |
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Oh Lord, why did I ever take on such a task? LOL. Here goes day two of my
upgrade quest for the Toyota. BTW, I appreciate the help. I just never dreamed it would be such a hassle to upgrade a simple radio in an import minivan. I have done lots of stereo installs over the years, mostly mid-size systems, but I have to admit, they were all done on American cars. Anyway, I stopped on the way home from work and picked up two kits; American International dash kit NWH-700 DSF, listed for my van in Canadian Tires' "Application Guide", and wiring harness American Int. UI-K777 DSF, also listed in their guide. Now, when I went to AIs' website to double-check and did a vehicle search for 1998 Toyota Sienna, three different dash kits appeared. One was listed UI-K777 DSP (instead of F) and the other two were pocket kits. For the harness, NWH-700 brought up numerous Toyota vehicles from 1989-1996, except for my van. So when I did a vehicle search, it brought up TWH-950, which has two harnesses that are similar to the kit that I have, but are not exactly the same. BTW, I can't open any of these kits up or Can. Tire will not return them. So, I called AIs' tech support number, and when I told the guy on the line what type of car I had, he laughed and said I had better think about taking it to a pro. Apparently the dash kit I have is one of their hardest to install, and to make it work, requires cutting into the metal brackets inside the dash! Now, he reccommended I take that kit back and go to a Toyota dealership and pick up the factory pocket kit for my van. That way, I could use the original brackets from the Toyota radio on the new radio, and it wouldn't require any dash kit at all. But, he also said that I had better pull out the center console and verify whether there is an amplifier installed or not, because if there is, I would need "professional help to bypass it, and more than likely, half of the van may need to be re-wired". LOL, WTF??? Ok, so I get off the phone with that guy and now I'm sitting here, wondering what my next step is. I know that I need to go out for starters, pull the radio and verify whether the wiring harness I have, will work or not. Secondly, I will have to see if there is a factory amp installed or not, and if there is, I guess look for a wiring harness bypass kit, if one is available for it. If I can find one for it, then I will make the trip to the dealer and pick up the factory pocket kit. The dash kit isn't a problem anymore, its just that now I have a few new problems than I started with. One point he brought up is that if I happened to use a double-DIN sized radio, I wouldn't even need the pocket kit from Toyota. Well that's all fine and dandy, but I don't plan on buying a new deck when I already have one that fits the bill. He also brought up the point that there may be numerous speakers (more than 4 or 6) located all around the van, and when I questioned him about finding them, he said turn the stereo up a little and listen very carefully while walking around inside of the van. Yeah, ok, that could take half a day or more. I suppose this makes the problem of removing the factory speakers look non-existent. There won't even be much point if I can't replace the factory deck. God if I had any idea this was going to be so much trouble, I would have just forgot about it in the first place. Any more help is still greatly appreciated, as I now have to potentially find an amp bypass kit, find the proper wiring harness and god knows what else I might run into. Thanks again, Sharky |
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I just went out tonight and pulled the console door past its stops so I
could look around and try to find an amp. When I look in, all I see is the duct that comes from the top of the dash and down to the heater outlet below the console. There is also a disconnected red 15 pin harness, hanging on the left side of the metal bracing, with nothing near it to plug into. I'm assuming this is where the amplifier should be plugged in, if there was one in my van. I also wrote down the two numbers on each of the Toyota single-DIN receivers. The AM/FM/Cass. player is 16408, while the single CD player is 34230. Earlier, I had both of the receivers in my hands, out of the dash, so I could, 1) see how the single-DIN receivers were stacked together, and 2) take a picture of the wiring harness going into the radio, and the plug on back of the cass. player. I had a feeling the one I had was wrong, and turns out I am right. It is the same as the one at www.installer.com. Anyway, when I return it, now I have a picture of the one I need on my phone for a reference, regardless of what the teenagers working at Can. Tire say. So, if I'm looking in the wrong spot for this amplifier, someone please let me know where it should be. I see nothing that looks like one, so I'm assuming that there isn't one. I emailed tech support at www.installer.com to see if they even offer a bypass harness for the amp, and to find out if they knew where it should be located. One way or the other, I'm GOING to have a new radio in this van, eventually, LOL. Sharky |
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Update: Toyota Stereo Options/Wiring Harness
After a reply from tech support at www.installer.com and a 5 minute phone
call to Texas, I think I have this Toyota figured out. According to the tech, if the harness in the van is the same as the certain one they sell (which it is), there is no factory amp installed. So, I found the correct harness and I'm now on my way back to return the wrong harness and "extremely difficult to install", EZ Dash Kit (this, from American Internationals' own tech guy, LOL). I called Toyota and ordered a factory pocket, $18, which is all I needed in the first place and is 99.9% sure to work. I have to say, the one thing I like about this stereo is it is simple to remove and install. It took me less than 10 minutes to remove the dash plate, pull the radio, take pictures of both wiring harnesses and put it back together. And this included a trip into the house to grab the camera and a few tools. Now, it's just a matter of finding a decent headrest monitor that I like and can afford, and the possibility of adding a removable subwoofer (that's a whole new adventure, LOL). I've gotta be able to retain my storage bed in what I like to think of as my extended cab truck with non-removable cap (with back seats out). Anyway, thanks again for the help that was offered and soon, I'll be listening to my tunes in the minivan once again. Sharky |
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