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Adobe Audition 2.0
I am considering buying Audition 2.0, but am intimidated by the price
and the bad reviews on amazon.com. Basically I just want to record multiple voice tracks over wav files of music I've made in FL Studio, edit and apply effects to them, and mix the vocals so that they sound professional. Is 2.0 really as bad as I am being led to believe? Is 1.5 still available anywhere legit? (I understand 2.0 doesn't support ReWire technology). Is it likely that I will have a problem doing these simple things? Thank you in advance for your input. Kent |
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Adobe Audition 2.0
kent wrote:
I am considering buying Audition 2.0, but am intimidated by the price and the bad reviews on amazon.com. Basically I just want to record multiple voice tracks over wav files of music I've made in FL Studio, edit and apply effects to them, and mix the vocals so that they sound professional. Is 2.0 really as bad as I am being led to believe? Is 1.5 still available anywhere legit? (I understand 2.0 doesn't support ReWire technology). Is it likely that I will have a problem doing these simple things? Thank you in advance for your input. Kent There were three copies of Adobe Audition 1.5 still available at www.amazon.com just a little while ago. I happen to like 1.5. The UI has been significantly changed for 2.0 which could cause those with 1.5 keyboard short cut habits to curse significantly. bobs Bob Smith BS Studios we organize chaos http://www.bsstudios.com |
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Adobe Audition 2.0
"kent" wrote in message
ups.com... I am considering buying Audition 2.0, but am intimidated by the price and the bad reviews on amazon.com. Basically I just want to record multiple voice tracks over wav files of music I've made in FL Studio, edit and apply effects to them, and mix the vocals so that they sound professional. Is 2.0 really as bad as I am being led to believe? Is 1.5 still available anywhere legit? (I understand 2.0 doesn't support ReWire technology). Is it likely that I will have a problem doing these simple things? Thank you in advance for your input. Kent Don't they have a demo? I haven't read a lot but from what I have most seem pleased with it. |
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Adobe Audition 2.0
On 3 May 2006 22:39:57 -0700, "kent" wrote:
I am considering buying Audition 2.0, but am intimidated by the price and the bad reviews on amazon.com. What are the issues you are concerned about? |
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Adobe Audition 2.0
kent wrote:
I am considering buying Audition 2.0, but am intimidated by the price and the bad reviews on amazon.com. Basically I just want to record multiple voice tracks over wav files of music I've made in FL Studio, edit and apply effects to them, and mix the vocals so that they sound professional. Is 2.0 really as bad as I am being led to believe? Is 1.5 still available anywhere legit? (I understand 2.0 doesn't support ReWire technology). Is it likely that I will have a problem doing these simple things? Thank you in advance for your input. Kent I've not seen it get a bad review here, quite the contrary. Ditto alt.music.home-studio and alt.music.home-recording. I haven't pounded on it like I did previous versions but what I have done shows no problems. Were the bad reviews with respect to the latest version or to the product in general? Bob -- "Things should be described as simply as possible, but no simpler." A. Einstein |
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Adobe Audition 2.0
kent wrote:
I am considering buying Audition 2.0, but am intimidated by the price and the bad reviews on amazon.com. Basically I just want to record multiple voice tracks over wav files of music I've made in FL Studio, edit and apply effects to them, and mix the vocals so that they sound professional. Is 2.0 really as bad as I am being led to believe? Is 1.5 still available anywhere legit? (I understand 2.0 doesn't support ReWire technology). Is it likely that I will have a problem doing these simple things? Thank you in advance for your input. Audition 1.5 and 2 are just fine - hough there may be something much more economical that will do what you want, like N-Track Studio... geoff |
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Adobe Audition 2.0
"kent" wrote in message
ups.com I am considering buying Audition 2.0, but am intimidated by the price and the bad reviews on amazon.com. Huh? I just looked at the Audition 2.0 reviews on Amazon and found nothing but positive reviews. Basically I just want to record multiple voice tracks over wav files of music I've made in FL Studio, edit and apply effects to them, and mix the vocals so that they sound professional. Audition will definately do that very well. Is 2.0 really as bad as I am being led to believe? Huh? |
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Adobe Audition 2.0
"Arny Krueger" wrote ...
"kent" wrote I am considering buying Audition 2.0, but am intimidated by the price and the bad reviews on amazon.com. Huh? I just looked at the Audition 2.0 reviews on Amazon and found nothing but positive reviews. As I look at it right now (on my 2nd screen) there are two reviews, and both are dramatically negative. They are both from satisfied users of previous version(s). Here is the specific URL I am looking at... http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/customer-reviews/ B000E8JLAI/ref=cm_cr_dp_pt/002-0154169-6048842 ?%5Fencoding=UTF8&n=229534&s=software [re-assemble without spaces] Basically I just want to record multiple voice tracks over wav files of music I've made in FL Studio, edit and apply effects to them, and mix the vocals so that they sound professional. Audition will definately do that very well. No question. Audition may even be overkill. Is 2.0 really as bad as I am being led to believe? Huh? Arny, I was about to agree with you 100% until I went to Amazon.com and read the (two) customer reviews for myself. Granted, two sample points are not that overwhelming, but then AA2 hasn't been out that long, and Amazon isn't a primary source of user discussion about higher-end audio products. However, I must say that I am concerned about what I read in those reviews. I have been using CE2K and CEP since long before they sold out to Adobe and CEP/AA is my primary audio mixing/processing tool on several computers. The kinds of things they are complaining about are the very things that bug me significantly about other Adobe products which I use regularly (Premiere, Encore and Photoshop). There seems to be a continuing influence of a non-MSwin UI scheme (Mac perhaps? :-) which makes Adobe products more awkward, less intuitive to use compared to other more conventional MSwin applications. Part of my day job is designing User Interfaces, so I may be a bit more sensitive to this than others? I am particularly troubled by the reports about the shortcut keys as I use a customized set quite extensively to do repetitive tasks for both audio production (speech and music) and for video "sweetening". I believe I will download the trial version and try it before committing to just another lock-step upgrade. Hope this is not the end of the line of usable versions. |
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Adobe Audition 2.0
"Richard Crowley" wrote in message
... "Arny Krueger" wrote ... "kent" wrote I am considering buying Audition 2.0, but am intimidated by the price and the bad reviews on amazon.com. Huh? I just looked at the Audition 2.0 reviews on Amazon and found nothing but positive reviews. As I look at it right now (on my 2nd screen) there are two reviews, and both are dramatically negative. They are both from satisfied users of previous version(s). Here is the specific URL I am looking at... http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/customer-reviews/ B000E8JLAI/ref=cm_cr_dp_pt/002-0154169-6048842 ?%5Fencoding=UTF8&n=229534&s=software [re-assemble without spaces] Basically I just want to record multiple voice tracks over wav files of music I've made in FL Studio, edit and apply effects to them, and mix the vocals so that they sound professional. Audition will definately do that very well. No question. Audition may even be overkill. Is 2.0 really as bad as I am being led to believe? Huh? Arny, I was about to agree with you 100% until I went to Amazon.com and read the (two) customer reviews for myself. Granted, two sample points are not that overwhelming, but then AA2 hasn't been out that long, and Amazon isn't a primary source of user discussion about higher-end audio products. SNIP I am particularly troubled by the reports about the shortcut keys as I use a customized set quite extensively to do repetitive tasks for both audio production (speech and music) and for video "sweetening". I believe I will download the trial version and try it before committing to just another lock-step upgrade. Hope this is not the end of the line of usable versions. Hmmm? I knew there was a reason that I have my copy of 2.0 on the shelf. I had put off installing it until business slows down a bit. Now, maybe it will stay on the shelf. Has anyone installed 2.0 in its own directory, while keeping 1.5? Does it mess with 1.5's functionality? Steve King |
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Adobe Audition 2.0
Steve King wrote: Hmmm? I knew there was a reason that I have my copy of 2.0 on the shelf. I had put off installing it until business slows down a bit. Now, maybe it will stay on the shelf. Has anyone installed 2.0 in its own directory, while keeping 1.5? Does it mess with 1.5's functionality? I have CE2K, AA1.0 and AA2.0 co-existing happily on one computer without a problem. In my opinion these negative reviews are pretty superficial. Especially the first one. There are a few things which I don't like in AA2.0 but my opinions are in general positive and I'm happy with the new version. But keep in mind that I use the program mostly for wave editing, and only rarely for multitracking (and multi means 2-3 in my case). Also, I do not use external plug-ins. I don't have time right now to give a detailed opinion of 2.0's pros and cons, my later - if anyone's interested. |
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Adobe Audition 2.0
Arny, I was about to agree with you 100% until I went to Amazon.com and read the (two) customer reviews for myself. Granted, two sample points are not that overwhelming, but then AA2 hasn't been out that long, and Amazon isn't a primary source of user discussion about higher-end audio products. However, I must say that I am concerned about what I read in those reviews. I have been using CE2K and CEP since long before they sold out to Adobe and CEP/AA is my primary audio mixing/processing tool on several computers. The kinds of things they are complaining about are the very things that bug me significantly about other Adobe products which I use regularly (Premiere, Encore and Photoshop). There seems to be a continuing influence of a non-MSwin UI scheme (Mac perhaps? :-) which makes Adobe products more awkward, less intuitive to use compared to other more conventional MSwin applications. Part of my day job is designing User Interfaces, so I may be a bit more sensitive to this than others? I looked at using AA2.0 a couple of weeks ago... My needs were very basic (more basic than the OP even) and I could tell just from the screenshots on the Adobe website that it was going to be more of a headache than a help. I decided to download the demo anyways to give it a fair shot and it wouldn't even install on W2K. I'm really happy with CEP. *** Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com *** |
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Adobe Audition 2.0
On Thu, 04 May 2006 10:57:21 -0500, flatfish+++ wrote:
On Wed, 03 May 2006 22:39:57 -0700, kent wrote: I am considering buying Audition 2.0, but am intimidated by the price and the bad reviews on amazon.com. Basically I just want to record multiple voice tracks over wav files of music I've made in FL Studio, edit and apply effects to them, and mix the vocals so that they sound professional. Is 2.0 really as bad as I am being led to believe? Is 1.5 still available anywhere legit? (I understand 2.0 doesn't support ReWire technology). Is it likely that I will have a problem doing these simple things? Thank you in advance for your input. Kent Adobe did some good things and some bad things. If you like tabbed interfaces (Like Sonar for example) you will love 2.0 However if you are a 1.5 power user, it's going to take some time to get used to the interface. I like it, my friend does not so go figure. I think they've lost the simplicity and speed that was so nice about Cool Edit. It used to be more of a multitrack wave editor, now it's just another DAW. Also, some of my plugins refused to run, preferring to make stuttering noises and requiring restarting the program (even after removing them from the effects rack) to fix the problem. Audition got plugin latency compensation in 2.0 didn't it? I'd imagine it's related as I've not known any DAW to move to it without a few hiccups. |
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Adobe Audition 2.0
On Wed, 03 May 2006 22:39:57 -0700, kent wrote:
I am considering buying Audition 2.0, but am intimidated by the price and the bad reviews on amazon.com. Basically I just want to record multiple voice tracks over wav files of music I've made in FL Studio, edit and apply effects to them, and mix the vocals so that they sound professional. Is 2.0 really as bad as I am being led to believe? Is 1.5 still available anywhere legit? (I understand 2.0 doesn't support ReWire technology). Is it likely that I will have a problem doing these simple things? Thank you in advance for your input. Kent Adobe did some good things and some bad things. If you like tabbed interfaces (Like Sonar for example) you will love 2.0 However if you are a 1.5 power user, it's going to take some time to get used to the interface. I like it, my friend does not so go figure. Also, some of my plugins refused to run, preferring to make stuttering noises and requiring restarting the program (even after removing them from the effects rack) to fix the problem. -- flatfish+++ "Why do they call it a flatfish?" |
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Adobe Audition 2.0
Mainly functionality. Several years ago I did a lot of recording on a
friend's computer using CoolEdit, and my experiences were very positive, which is why I was sort of gravitating towards Audition. I was very excited when I read that 1.5 supported ReWire technology and could be used to mix FL Studio projects in the multichannel mode... but then very disappointed to read that this feature has been dropped in 2.0. While this and reports of 2.0's incompatibility with other plug-ins is disappointing to me, my primary use for the program will be audio recording and mixing -- the stuff I did back when the program was still just CoolEdit. I want to be able to record multiple vocals over each other, edit minute things in the vocals, and mix them in a way that sounds seamless -- without any crashes or glitches. Kent |
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Adobe Audition 2.0
There are two different versions of 1.5 on amazon, and I meant to ask
about this as well: One of them, which is only available through the "used & new" option for a higher price than 2.0, has an icon that says Windows 2000 / Windows XP. Since I have Windows XP, this is the one I would get -- if it was in the warehouse for a lower price. The second version of 1.5 is available in the warehouse for $250 -- but it says "No Operating System." The product is "Adobe AUDITION 1.5 WIN 1U ( 22011118 )" and I am confused by this. Is there a difference between these two products, and will this second version work on my computer? I had sort of assumed that it wouldn't. Kent |
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Adobe Audition 2.0
They were both in respect to 2.0. I think both of the reviewers had
been happy users of 1.5. Kent |
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Adobe Audition 2.0
I did a session in a local studio a while back that had Audition 2. We
were doing 16 tracks live. Worked and sounded just fine. DaveT |
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Adobe Audition 2.0
On Thu, 04 May 2006 15:18:58 +0000, philicorda wrote:
I think they've lost the simplicity and speed that was so nice about Cool Edit. It used to be more of a multitrack wave editor, now it's just another DAW. I agree! It looks to me like they are trying to "Premier'ize it" for lack of a better term. Also, some of my plugins refused to run, preferring to make stuttering noises and requiring restarting the program (even after removing them from the effects rack) to fix the problem. Audition got plugin latency compensation in 2.0 didn't it? I'd imagine it's related as I've not known any DAW to move to it without a few hiccups. To be honest, I'm not sure. I borrowed a brand new copy from a friend to try it out, installed it and tinkered around but since the interface was confusing and plugins were not working correctly I removed it. He is running it with no troubles, but he doesn't have the number of plugins that I have. I've been a registered Cooledit user since Cooledit 95 but this one I just can't warm up to. -- flatfish+++ "Why do they call it a flatfish?" |
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Adobe Audition 2.0
On 4 May 2006 11:30:45 -0700, "kent" wrote:
Mainly functionality. Several years ago I did a lot of recording on a friend's computer using CoolEdit, and my experiences were very positive, which is why I was sort of gravitating towards Audition. I was very excited when I read that 1.5 supported ReWire technology and could be used to mix FL Studio projects in the multichannel mode... but then very disappointed to read that this feature has been dropped in 2.0. While this and reports of 2.0's incompatibility with other plug-ins is disappointing to me, my primary use for the program will be audio recording and mixing -- the stuff I did back when the program was still just CoolEdit. I want to be able to record multiple vocals over each other, edit minute things in the vocals, and mix them in a way that sounds seamless -- without any crashes or glitches. Kent Sounds like you want 1.5 |
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Adobe Audition 2.0
Richard Crowley wrote:
As I look at it right now (on my 2nd screen) there are two reviews, and both are dramatically negative. They are both from satisfied users of previous version(s). Here is the specific URL I am looking at... http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/customer-reviews/ B000E8JLAI/ref=cm_cr_dp_pt/002-0154169-6048842 ?%5Fencoding=UTF8&n=229534&s=software [re-assemble without spaces] Could you do that for us, please, so that we get a clickable link? TinyURL is your friend in such cases. Bob -- "Things should be described as simply as possible, but no simpler." A. Einstein |
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Adobe Audition 2.0
"Bob Cain" wrote in message ... Richard Crowley wrote: As I look at it right now (on my 2nd screen) there are two reviews, and both are dramatically negative. They are both from satisfied users of previous version(s). Here is the specific URL I am looking at... http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/customer-reviews/ B000E8JLAI/ref=cm_cr_dp_pt/002-0154169-6048842 ?%5Fencoding=UTF8&n=229534&s=software [re-assemble without spaces] Could you do that for us, please, so that we get a clickable link? TinyURL is your friend in such cases. Works fine for me when I paste the pieces back into IE. Or just go to Amazon and see the user reviews of AA 2.0, nothing particularly special or magic about the URL. http://makeashorterlink.com/?L1B42121D |
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Adobe Audition 2.0
"kent" wrote in message
ups.com There are two different versions of 1.5 on amazon, and I meant to ask about this as well: One of them, which is only available through the "used & new" option for a higher price than 2.0, has an icon that says Windows 2000 / Windows XP. Since I have Windows XP, this is the one I would get -- if it was in the warehouse for a lower price. The second version of 1.5 is available in the warehouse for $250 -- but it says "No Operating System." The product is "Adobe AUDITION 1.5 WIN 1U ( 22011118 )" and I am confused by this. Is there a difference between these two products, and will this second version work on my computer? I had sort of assumed that it wouldn't. AFAIK there have been only one version of each release level of CEP and Audition. IOW if its labelled Audition release 1.5 then it nets out to be the same thing as anything else labelled Audition release 1.5. Of course for every release there are both full-product and upgrade versions, which differ only in the obvious way. |
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"Richard Crowley" wrote in message
"Arny Krueger" wrote ... "kent" wrote I am considering buying Audition 2.0, but am intimidated by the price and the bad reviews on amazon.com. Huh? I just looked at the Audition 2.0 reviews on Amazon and found nothing but positive reviews. As I look at it right now (on my 2nd screen) there are two reviews, and both are dramatically negative. They are both from satisfied users of previous version(s). Here is the specific URL I am looking at... http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/customer-reviews/ B000E8JLAI/ref=cm_cr_dp_pt/002-0154169-6048842 ?%5Fencoding=UTF8&n=229534&s=software [re-assemble without spaces] Thank you very much Richard. Nothing like a well-crafted link that precisely supports your comments. Basically I just want to record multiple voice tracks over wav files of music I've made in FL Studio, edit and apply effects to them, and mix the vocals so that they sound professional. Audition will definately do that very well. No question. Audition may even be overkill. Is 2.0 really as bad as I am being led to believe? Huh? Arny, I was about to agree with you 100% until I went to Amazon.com and read the (two) customer reviews for myself. Granted, two sample points are not that overwhelming, but then AA2 hasn't been out that long, and Amazon isn't a primary source of user discussion about higher-end audio products. Well yes they are negative reviews. I see them as supporting my long-held belief that you can't change anything that was fairly well-crafted in the first place, without disappointing someone. However, I must say that I am concerned about what I read in those reviews. I have been using CE2K and CEP since long before they sold out to Adobe and CEP/AA is my primary audio mixing/processing tool on several computers. Ditto. The kinds of things they are complaining about are the very things that bug me significantly about other Adobe products which I use regularly (Premiere, Encore and Photoshop). There seems to be a continuing influence of a non-MSwin UI scheme (Mac perhaps? :-) which makes Adobe products more awkward, less intuitive to use compared to other more conventional MSwin applications. I suspect Adobe are guilty as you charge. Part of my day job is designing User Interfaces, so I may be a bit more sensitive to this than others? My approach is to learn the new UI well enough that I'm not suffering with withdrawal symptoms from the old one and then make up my mind, as if that will matter. Audition 2.0 is what it is. I am particularly troubled by the reports about the shortcut keys as I use a customized set quite extensively to do repetitive tasks for both audio production (speech and music) and for video "sweetening". I see 2.0 as adhering more closely to Windows keyboard, mouse and command standards. I believe I will download the trial version and try it before committing to just another lock-step upgrade. Hope this is not the end of the line of usable versions. Good idea. The two versions cohabit well. |
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