[Julien BH]

Hello R.A.P.!

I'd just need an advice on my current setup since I can't find help
elsewhere and I respect some RAP posters.
I have 2 small questions if I may...

#1
I have 3 microphones, could you help me chose the right mic. for
1-vocals and
2-guitar amp recording

***AKG perception 200 (cardioid condenser),
***Audio-Technica ATM41HE (hypercard. dynamic)
***Electro-Voice RE510 (supercar. condenser)

#2
What would you add / remove in my setup to enhance its sound (bear in
mind I do mostly demos for my band/ friends)

Those 3 microphones
Alto L-8 mixer
ART Pro Vla (Aux on my mixer.. That I know already what you might say,
but too late I bought it)
Edirol DA-2496 Soundcard
KRK RP6 monitors

Thanks so much!

Julien

--------------------------
If you are curious and want to see how it sounds right now, you can
hear some songs I made at http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page...?bandID=265287
(Click Hifi or Lofi)
Maybe it could help you make a choice??? I don't know...

[Julien BH]

On Jul 4, 11:54 pm, Julien BH wrote:
Hello R.A.P.!

I'd just need an advice on my current setup since I can't find help
elsewhere and I respect some RAP posters.
I have 2 small questions if I may...

#1
I have 3 microphones, could you help me chose the right mic. for
1-vocals and
2-guitar amp recording

***AKG perception 200 (cardioid condenser),
***Audio-Technica ATM41HE (hypercard. dynamic)
***Electro-Voice RE510 (supercar. condenser)

#2
What would you add / remove in my setup to enhance its sound (bear in
mind I do mostly demos for my band/ friends)

Those 3 microphones
Alto L-8 mixer
ART Pro Vla (Aux on my mixer.. That I know already what you might say,
but too late I bought it)
Edirol DA-2496 Soundcard
KRK RP6 monitors

Thanks so much!

Julien

--------------------------
If you are curious and want to see how it sounds right now, you can
hear some songs I made athttp://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=265287
(Click Hifi or Lofi)
Maybe it could help you make a choice??? I don't know...

No one?

[Mike Rivers]

On Jul 5, 11:36 am, Julien BH wrote:

No one?

Your question is too general but you have everything you need to
answer it yourself. Just try various combinations and see what you
like best.

Yes, it IS a lot of work. That's why you make the big bucks. But
that's how you learn to make decisions, too.

[Scott Dorsey]

Julien BH wrote:

#1
I have 3 microphones, could you help me chose the right mic. for
1-vocals and
2-guitar amp recording

***AKG perception 200 (cardioid condenser),
***Audio-Technica ATM41HE (hypercard. dynamic)
***Electro-Voice RE510 (supercar. condenser)

Buy an RE-20. You can use it on vocals, you can use it on guitars, you
can use it on more things than any one microphone.

The next step up might be to get a less bright condenser mike and an
SM-57, but in terms of bang for the dollar for what you want to do,
the RE-20 is a deal.

#2
What would you add / remove in my setup to enhance its sound (bear in
mind I do mostly demos for my band/ friends)

Those 3 microphones
Alto L-8 mixer
ART Pro Vla (Aux on my mixer.. That I know already what you might say,
but too late I bought it)
Edirol DA-2496 Soundcard
KRK RP6 monitors

Are you doing everything live with those three mikes, or are you doing
lots of overdubs?

You might consider getting a better preamp, like a used Symetrix SX-202
if you're mostly doing everything one track at a time.

If you're mostly working through the mixer, you might consider an upgrade
to the mixer.

But, of course, money spent on better monitoring is never wasted.
--scott

--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

[Julien BH]

On Jul 5, 1:14 pm, (Scott Dorsey) wrote:
Julien BH wrote:



#1
I have 3 microphones, could you help me chose the right mic. for
1-vocals and
2-guitar amp recording

***AKG perception 200 (cardioid condenser),
***Audio-Technica ATM41HE (hypercard. dynamic)
***Electro-Voice RE510 (supercar. condenser)

Buy an RE-20. You can use it on vocals, you can use it on guitars, you
can use it on more things than any one microphone.

The next step up might be to get a less bright condenser mike and an
SM-57, but in terms of bang for the dollar for what you want to do,
the RE-20 is a deal.

#2
What would you add / remove in my setup to enhance its sound (bear in
mind I do mostly demos for my band/ friends)

Those 3 microphones
Alto L-8 mixer
ART Pro Vla (Aux on my mixer.. That I know already what you might say,
but too late I bought it)
Edirol DA-2496 Soundcard
KRK RP6 monitors

Are you doing everything live with those three mikes, or are you doing
lots of overdubs?

You might consider getting a better preamp, like a used Symetrix SX-202
if you're mostly doing everything one track at a time.

If you're mostly working through the mixer, you might consider an upgrade
to the mixer.

But, of course, money spent on better monitoring is never wasted.
--scott

--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

Thanks for the reply. I'm mostly doing overdubs. I work mostly with
rock, pop bands and local solo artists.

[Julien BH]

On Jul 5, 2:30 pm, Julien BH wrote:
On Jul 5, 1:14 pm, (Scott Dorsey) wrote:



Julien BH wrote:

#1
I have 3 microphones, could you help me chose the right mic. for
1-vocals and
2-guitar amp recording

***AKG perception 200 (cardioid condenser),
***Audio-Technica ATM41HE (hypercard. dynamic)
***Electro-Voice RE510 (supercar. condenser)

Buy an RE-20. You can use it on vocals, you can use it on guitars, you
can use it on more things than any one microphone.

The next step up might be to get a less bright condenser mike and an
SM-57, but in terms of bang for the dollar for what you want to do,
the RE-20 is a deal.

#2
What would you add / remove in my setup to enhance its sound (bear in
mind I do mostly demos for my band/ friends)

Those 3 microphones
Alto L-8 mixer
ART Pro Vla (Aux on my mixer.. That I know already what you might say,
but too late I bought it)
Edirol DA-2496 Soundcard
KRK RP6 monitors

Are you doing everything live with those three mikes, or are you doing
lots of overdubs?

You might consider getting a better preamp, like a used Symetrix SX-202
if you're mostly doing everything one track at a time.

If you're mostly working through the mixer, you might consider an upgrade
to the mixer.

But, of course, money spent on better monitoring is never wasted.
--scott

--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

Thanks for the reply. I'm mostly doing overdubs. I work mostly with
rock, pop bands and local solo artists.

Also I read in a post here that Electro voice were not very good at
doing condenser? Is that a myth?

[Scott Dorsey]

Julien BH wrote:

Thanks for the reply. I'm mostly doing overdubs. I work mostly with
rock, pop bands and local solo artists.

In that case, one or two channels of really good preamp could improve
your life a lot.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

[Julien BH]

On Jul 5, 2:43 pm, (Scott Dorsey) wrote:
Julien BH wrote:



Thanks for the reply. I'm mostly doing overdubs. I work mostly with
rock, pop bands and local solo artists.

In that case, one or two channels of really good preamp could improve
your life a lot.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

Ok so I'd really see a difference between say my Alto mixer preamp (I
hate it lol) and a RNP (that's what I'm looking at anyway)

[Scott Dorsey]

In article .com,
Julien BH wrote:
On Jul 5, 2:43 pm, (Scott Dorsey) wrote:
Julien BH wrote:

Thanks for the reply. I'm mostly doing overdubs. I work mostly with
rock, pop bands and local solo artists.

In that case, one or two channels of really good preamp could improve
your life a lot.

Ok so I'd really see a difference between say my Alto mixer preamp (I
hate it lol) and a RNP (that's what I'm looking at anyway)

Depends on the mikes and the situation, but you should definitely get a
preamp on loan and try it.

I'd upgrade the mikes before anything else, though. And I'd make sure
to be pulling the signal out of the insert on the Alto so you are only
using the mike preamp on it, and not needlessly routing through the whole
mix buss. Except when you do need the whole mix buss.
--scott

--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

[Julien BH]

On Jul 5, 3:06 pm, (Scott Dorsey) wrote:
In article .com,
Julien BH wrote:

On Jul 5, 2:43 pm, (Scott Dorsey) wrote:
Julien BH wrote:

Thanks for the reply. I'm mostly doing overdubs. I work mostly with
rock, pop bands and local solo artists.

In that case, one or two channels of really good preamp could improve
your life a lot.

Ok so I'd really see a difference between say my Alto mixer preamp (I
hate it lol) and a RNP (that's what I'm looking at anyway)

Depends on the mikes and the situation, but you should definitely get a
preamp on loan and try it.

I'd upgrade the mikes before anything else, though. And I'd make sure
to be pulling the signal out of the insert on the Alto so you are only
using the mike preamp on it, and not needlessly routing through the whole
mix buss. Except when you do need the whole mix buss.
--scott

--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

Good idea Scott. Yesterday I did just that. I noticed that in my Pro
Vla there is a bypass switch so I plugged the outs of my mixer to the
ProVla to the Edirol and I bypass it when not needed. (Everything
except the voice normally).
I don't think the RE-20 is available as new right? I suppose I'll look
on ebay for that.

[Scott Dorsey]

Julien BH wrote:
I don't think the RE-20 is available as new right? I suppose I'll look
on ebay for that.

Sure it's available new. However, since they are hard to kill, you
probably won't do wrong to buy a used one and the used prices are pretty
good.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

[Julien BH]

On Jul 5, 3:21 pm, (Scott Dorsey) wrote:
Julien BH wrote:

I don't think the RE-20 is available as new right? I suppose I'll look
on ebay for that.

Sure it's available new. However, since they are hard to kill, you
probably won't do wrong to buy a used one and the used prices are pretty
good.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

Hmm, found it for about 400 new, which is a bit high for my budget
since I'm a student.
Don't know if you know about a deal (I live in Canada so no Ebay.com
please haha)
Thanks again... I'll watch those auctions in the next days to see if I
fall on a good deal.

[Julien BH]

On Jul 5, 3:27 pm, Julien BH wrote:
On Jul 5, 3:21 pm, (Scott Dorsey) wrote:

Julien BH wrote:

I don't think the RE-20 is available as new right? I suppose I'll look
on ebay for that.

Sure it's available new. However, since they are hard to kill, you
probably won't do wrong to buy a used one and the used prices are pretty
good.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

Hmm, found it for about 400 new, which is a bit high for my budget
since I'm a student.
Don't know if you know about a deal (I live in Canada so no Ebay.com
please haha)
Thanks again... I'll watch those auctions in the next days to see if I
fall on a good deal.

On a side note, wouldn't I be happier with a R0de Nt2A instead in the
same price range?

[Richard Crowley]

"Julien BH" wrote ...
Also I read in a post here that Electro voice were not very good at
doing condenser? Is that a myth?

If you are asking about the RE-20, it is not condensor,
it is dynamic. If you mean generically, EV is is unlikely
to be in the top 3 of anybody's favorite condenser list.

[Julien BH]

On Jul 5, 3:47 pm, "Richard Crowley" wrote:
"Julien BH" wrote ...

Also I read in a post here that Electro voice were not very good at
doing condenser? Is that a myth?

If you are asking about the RE-20, it is not condensor,
it is dynamic. If you mean generically, EV is is unlikely
to be in the top 3 of anybody's favorite condenser list.

Talking about MY EV haha. The Re-510

[Scott Dorsey]

Julien BH wrote:

Hmm, found it for about 400 new, which is a bit high for my budget
since I'm a student.
Don't know if you know about a deal (I live in Canada so no Ebay.com
please haha)
Thanks again... I'll watch those auctions in the next days to see if I
fall on a good deal.

On a side note, wouldn't I be happier with a R0de Nt2A instead in the
same price range?

Probably not. It's a far less versatile mike. It's not a bad mike, and
it might be a useful thing to have in the cabinet someday, but if you have
to have only one good mike in the closet it's not the one I'd pick.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

[Julien BH]

On Jul 5, 4:12 pm, (Scott Dorsey) wrote:
Julien BH wrote:



Hmm, found it for about 400 new, which is a bit high for my budget
since I'm a student.
Don't know if you know about a deal (I live in Canada so no Ebay.com
please haha)
Thanks again... I'll watch those auctions in the next days to see if I
fall on a good deal.

On a side note, wouldn't I be happier with a R0de Nt2A instead in the
same price range?

Probably not. It's a far less versatile mike. It's not a bad mike, and
it might be a useful thing to have in the cabinet someday, but if you have
to have only one good mike in the closet it's not the one I'd pick.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

Allright I know I can rely on you scott you seem to be very
connoisseur in this domain.
Thanks for your advice

[Scott Dorsey]

Julien BH wrote:

Allright I know I can rely on you scott you seem to be very
connoisseur in this domain.

Don't rely on me, or anyone else. Find some dealers that will let you try
some microphones and listen for yourself.

One of the advantage of buying higher grade microphones on the used market,
though, is that you can buy them, try them, and then resell them for the
same price or even a profit if you decide you don't like them. An RE-20
will be worth more ten years from now than it is today, whereas some cheaper
products won't be.
--scott

--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

[Julien BH]

On Jul 5, 5:58 pm, (Scott Dorsey) wrote:
Julien BH wrote:



Allright I know I can rely on you scott you seem to be very
connoisseur in this domain.

Don't rely on me, or anyone else. Find some dealers that will let you try
some microphones and listen for yourself.

One of the advantage of buying higher grade microphones on the used market,
though, is that you can buy them, try them, and then resell them for the
same price or even a profit if you decide you don't like them. An RE-20
will be worth more ten years from now than it is today, whereas some cheaper
products won't be.
--scott

--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

What I was trying to say is that your comments are normally to the
point when I read RAP, and that's a good thing.
Anyway. If I was to buy the RNP wouldn't it's quality be compromised
by my Edirol (which in fact is a preamp in itself)

And what if I buy the RE-20, should I plug it directly to my edirol
(better preamp quality than my alto mixer???)
The problem with that is I don't know how to wire things to use my
compressor if I plug it directly in bypassing the mixer. (no aux bus
but 8in/out)