The money should have been spent on protecting our
borders in the first place.

That woudln't have got rid of saddam though would it?

"John LeBlanc" wrote in message
...

"Steven Sena" wrote in message
...
Henry Ford one of the biggest cut throat capitalist pigs this country ever
produced...

Capitalist pig? I'm curious to know, do you charge any money for the use of
your
studio? If so, isn't that capitalism; investing in equipment, trading labor
for
profit?

God bless the capitalist pigs. Without them, socialist and communist assholes
would have no one to complain about.

John


Ah, screw it. I'm not participating any further in another stupid thread.

I personally believe a man can invest his time, energy, and capital and expect
to make whatever profit he can squeeze out of the market. The market, not being
stupid, will pay what it wants to and no more. There are enough examples of men
who, with nothing more than a good idea, went on the make millions that it's
hardly worth my wasting my time definding such a system.

Now, if that's a model that doesn't work for you, then Merry Christmas to you.
It works remarkably well for me.

John

Oh come on John cheer up...
I thought what you had to say made some good points...
I truly believe in an honest open democracy.
I even think the American system could work too...

--
Steven Sena
XS Sound
www.xssound.com


"John LeBlanc" wrote in message
...
"John LeBlanc" wrote in message
...

"Steven Sena" wrote in message
...
Henry Ford one of the biggest cut throat capitalist pigs this country
ever
produced...

Capitalist pig? I'm curious to know, do you charge any money for the use
of
your
studio? If so, isn't that capitalism; investing in equipment, trading
labor
for
profit?

God bless the capitalist pigs. Without them, socialist and communist
assholes
would have no one to complain about.

John


Ah, screw it. I'm not participating any further in another stupid thread.

I personally believe a man can invest his time, energy, and capital and
expect
to make whatever profit he can squeeze out of the market. The market, not
being
stupid, will pay what it wants to and no more. There are enough examples
of men
who, with nothing more than a good idea, went on the make millions that
it's
hardly worth my wasting my time definding such a system.

Now, if that's a model that doesn't work for you, then Merry Christmas to
you.
It works remarkably well for me.

John

he war on poverty. LBJ started that one in 1964 and it's still unresolved,
which makes sense because he called it an "unconditional war".

Want to know why it's unresolved? Because you can't throw money at a problem
that isn't rooted in money. BRBR

I always thought that a lack of money had a lot to do with poverty.

-R

"Steven Sena" wrote in message ...
Henry Ford one of the biggest cut throat capitalist pigs this country ever
produced...
And I for one will be forever grateful that he was a capitalsit. It's
the reason that we can afford luxuries like automobiles and the
freedom that they bring. Henry Ford's real problem is that he was an
anti-semite, which I despise in anyone...

What Would You Do With $87 Billion Dollars??

I'd blow some **** up and enjoy a cool frosty one watching it all go up in
smoke. It'd be major badass ****, man.




--
Dr. Nuketopia
Sorry, no e-Mail.
Spam forgeries have resulted in thousands of faked bounces to my address.

In article ,
(ThePaulThomas) wrote:

And I for one will be forever grateful that he was a capitalsit. It's
the reason that we can afford luxuries like automobiles and the
freedom that they bring. Henry Ford's real problem is that he was an
anti-semite, which I despise in anyone...

The fact that he exploited and tossed aside his workers like fodder, and
fathered an archetype for a system that encourages no skills training
and sees workers as expendable cogs in a blind and dumb machine... that
doesn't bother you?

How about all those American jobs moving to other countries? You can
thank Henry Ford for the paradigm that's resulted in that.

Henry Ford's mentality is the same one that results in sweat shops where
kids are working 80 hours a week for pennies a day.

If making a ****-load of money off the blood of workers doesn't bother
you a bit, I'm sure Henry Ford's your man.

"John LeBlanc" wrote in message
...
"John LeBlanc" wrote in message
...

"Steven Sena" wrote in message
...
Henry Ford one of the biggest cut throat capitalist pigs this country
ever
produced...

Capitalist pig? I'm curious to know, do you charge any money for the use
of
your
studio? If so, isn't that capitalism; investing in equipment, trading
labor
for
profit?

God bless the capitalist pigs. Without them, socialist and communist
assholes
would have no one to complain about.

John


Ah, screw it. I'm not participating any further in another stupid thread.

I personally believe a man can invest his time, energy, and capital and
expect
to make whatever profit he can squeeze out of the market. The market, not
being
stupid, will pay what it wants to and no more. There are enough examples
of men
who, with nothing more than a good idea, went on the make millions that
it's
hardly worth my wasting my time definding such a system.

Now, if that's a model that doesn't work for you, then Merry Christmas to
you.
It works remarkably well for me.

John

This logic bring your 20$ gallons of water during times when the normal
outlets are non-functioning, such as after a earthquake
there needs to be checks against runaway greed
greed is the ******* child of capitalism just as sloth is the *******
child of communisim
there is a great diffrence between chargeing what ever you want for a
luxury like a sound system VS denying people the ability to feed and house
themselves

philantropy is just giveing back what you never should have taken to begin
with
George(a capitalist at heart)

On Sun, Sep 7, 2003 9:10 pm, Steven Sena
wrote:
Henry Ford one of the biggest cut throat capitalist pigs this country ever
produced...





Ford's 1930s book was called "The Internationsl Jew - The Foremost Problem
in the World Today" and is often quoted by anti-semites.




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"Our Nations Must Come Together To Unite"
- George W Bush - Tampa FL . June 4th -2001
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Seems kind of obvious now, but nobody bothered to tell Dubbya
how foolish it is to try and bomb away all the anti-Americanism
in the world. That's downright idiotic when you think about it.

It's NOT idiotic, if you believe that America is the New Jerusalem, that we are
specially blessed by God and have a divine mission to defeat evil (ie, anything
not consistent with Protestant-American values).

Dubbya and the fundamentalists are leading the US towards a global religious war
that could result in the destruction of our country (and others) and the deaths
of tens (if not hundreds) of millions of people.

You cannot GET them to understand this, because they already DO understand it.
It's part of their world view -- we are living in "the end of days," in which
all evil will finally be destroyed, as predicted in Revelations.

Evil is not a person, place, or thing. It is a belief -- and you cannot get rid
of the belief by getting rid of its believers.

Final gratuitous slap: Any President whose foreign policy is based on "We're
good -- they're bad" clearly knows nothing about the history of the world, and
is incompetent to make sensible decisions. He should be impeached for that
reason, alone.

William Sommerwerck wrote:

if you believe that America is the New Jerusalem, that we are
specially blessed by God and have a divine mission to defeat evil (ie, anything
not consistent with Protestant-American values).

Dubbya and the fundamentalists are leading the US towards a global religious war
that could result in the destruction of our country (and others) and the deaths
of tens (if not hundreds) of millions of people.

You cannot GET them to understand this, because they already DO understand it.
It's part of their world view -- we are living in "the end of days," in which
all evil will finally be destroyed, as predicted in Revelations.


See http://www.newamericancentury.org/ for the details (in their own
words) and http://www.pnac.info/ for the counterinfo.

William Sommerwerck wrote:

It's NOT idiotic, if you believe that America is the New Jerusalem,
that we are specially blessed by God and have a divine mission to
defeat evil (ie, anything not consistent with Protestant-American
values).

Great, so we have s lunstic running the country instead of an imbicile.
How comforting!

ulysses

As far as religious war, check out
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=34469. Seems that Bin Laden
is sneaking up on being the Islamic Messiah, which certainly goes right
along with your perception.

--


Roger W. Norman
SirMusic Studio
Purchase your copy of the Fifth of RAP CD set at www.recaudiopro.net.
See how far $20 really goes.




"William Sommerwerck" wrote in message
...
Seems kind of obvious now, but nobody bothered to tell Dubbya
how foolish it is to try and bomb away all the anti-Americanism
in the world. That's downright idiotic when you think about it.

It's NOT idiotic, if you believe that America is the New Jerusalem, that
we are
specially blessed by God and have a divine mission to defeat evil (ie,
anything
not consistent with Protestant-American values).

Dubbya and the fundamentalists are leading the US towards a global
religious war
that could result in the destruction of our country (and others) and the
deaths
of tens (if not hundreds) of millions of people.

You cannot GET them to understand this, because they already DO understand
it.
It's part of their world view -- we are living in "the end of days," in
which
all evil will finally be destroyed, as predicted in Revelations.

Evil is not a person, place, or thing. It is a belief -- and you cannot
get rid
of the belief by getting rid of its believers.

Final gratuitous slap: Any President whose foreign policy is based on
"We're
good -- they're bad" clearly knows nothing about the history of the world,
and
is incompetent to make sensible decisions. He should be impeached for that
reason, alone.

It's NOT idiotic, if you believe that America is the New Jerusalem, that we
are
specially blessed by God and have a divine mission to defeat evil (ie,
anything
not consistent with Protestant-American values).

Isn't this the way the "terrorists" view us?
And you fight this How?

Dubbya and the fundamentalists are leading the US towards a global religious
war
that could result in the destruction of our country (and others) and the
deaths
of tens (if not hundreds) of millions of people.

Meaning attack by terrorists again? Wasn't this already happening for years?


Evil is not a person, place, or thing. It is a belief -- and you cannot get
rid
of the belief by getting rid of its believers.

Yet this is just what the terrorists are trying to do..we should clue them in.

Final gratuitous slap: Any President whose foreign policy is based on "We're
good -- they're bad" clearly knows nothing about the history of the world

Can you explain this a little..I admit I'm no history buff but can you give an
example of a similar situation and the proper response?
Thanks,

John A. Chiara
SOS Recording Studio
Live Sound Inc.
Albany, NY
www.sosrecording.net
518-449-1637

I would spend $87B on developing a hydrogen-delivery infrastructure in the US.

William Sommerwerck wrote:
I would spend $87B on developing a hydrogen-delivery infrastructure in the US.


Hydrogen??? But it's not a fuel; not available naturally; it's just an
energy-transfer medium, like batteries; and my understanding is that it requires
more energy to make the hydrogen available than the hydrogen carries. Therefore
it's a net loser for society.


Always happy to learn better, but I think this is pretty well established.


James Boyk

William Sommerwerck wrote:

I would spend $87B on developing a hydrogen-delivery infrastructure in the US.


I think Iran and North Korea are working on that right now.

ulysses

$87 billion- enough to buy everyone on this board a roomful of neves.

I'd invest it in r&d for alternative (rather than oil) sources of energy.

John LeBlanc wrote: ...Henry Ford... was asked by someone what
he'd do if he woke up the next morning and found all his riches
had disappeared. He said he'd have every penny of it back within
a year.


He may have *said* that; he may have even thought it; that doesn't mean it would
actually work out that way. And if it did, so what? You're surely not
subscribing to the idea that merely wanting to be well off can make one so. If
that were true, I assure you, I'd be rich beyond your wildest dreams.


Ford had extraordinary money-making ability. Most people do not; does that mean
they don't deserve fair pay for their labors?


You are right that you can't want something for someone more than they want it
for themselves, but clearly wrong about money solving nothing. It can solve an
awful lot for the country and a lot of individuals. We're the only developed
nation in the world without universal health care. (Yes, the health care in some
of those other countries isn't great; but at least they've got it. They've got
something to work on. We have 42,000,000 citizens with None, including 9,000,000
children.) Our infrastructure of roads, bridges, etc., is falling apart; and we
recently saw the condition of our electricity-distributing system.


We have lots of homeless, 1/3 of whom have *full-time* jobs and still can't
afford housing.


We have huge unemployment. In a previous era, the combination of large-scale
unemployment and a need for infrastructure repair led a creative president to
start a massive program including the CCC, WPA, etc. The program included
artists and writers, too; and we've been using the products of those programs
for two generations. (My son's high school in Santa Monica just spent $7 million
to renovate its auditorium, a WPA structure.) But instead of imitating that
famously successful Depression-era response, the current administration seems
interested in implementing only the Biblical injunction that "to those that have
shall be given; from those that have not, shall be taken away even that which
they have."


Result: Greater spread of wealth between rich and poor than ever in our history.
*Far* greater spread between those at top of corporations and ordinary employees
than ever before. Public health at risk from recurrence of TB (highly
contagious) in a population in which 1 of 8 people lacks health care. Schools a
disaster as too many teachers know nothing, yet there's no public will to
improve education. The education disaster is self-perpetuating; once 1/3 of
adults are functionally illiterate---the figure that's cited now---it becomes
much more difficult to have a politically responsive and responsible populace.
Whatever is responsible, we are certainly allowing unheard-of illegalities and
misbehavior on the highest levels of government.



James Boyk