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hearing audio files on host computer controlling guest on remotedesktop?
Recently set up remote desktop to use the laptops to control the desktop
and vice versa. I am having one difficulty I need to work around. I have several audio programs on the desktop that I can control remotely via the laptop, but when I play the audio files they of course can only be heard at the desktop. How can I also hear the audio files on the controlling computer? Thanks! |
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On 11/10/2014 7:28 AM, OLD_CS1_enter wrote:
Recently set up remote desktop to use the laptops to control the desktop and vice versa. I am having one difficulty I need to work around. I have several audio programs on the desktop that I can control remotely via the laptop, but when I play the audio files they of course can only be heard at the desktop. How can I also hear the audio files on the controlling computer? You can't, unless the audio files are on the controlling computer. Of course you could run audio from the desktop computer to the laptop through a wire or wireless hookup. If the desktop computer has Bluetooth, you could (I'm guessing here since I've never tried it) assign the audio playback to that device and use a Bluetooth speaker at the laptop. I don't think you could connect Bluetooth-to-bluetooth between the two computers, but you could play around with that. Or you could set up a streaming server on the desktop and connect to that from the laptop. Nothing is going to be simple, though. -- For a good time, visit http://mikeriversaudio.wordpress.com |
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On 10/11/2014 12:28, OLD_CS1_enter wrote:
Recently set up remote desktop to use the laptops to control the desktop and vice versa. I am having one difficulty I need to work around. I have several audio programs on the desktop that I can control remotely via the laptop, but when I play the audio files they of course can only be heard at the desktop. How can I also hear the audio files on the controlling computer? If the computers are networked, then you could log on to the remote computer and use the audio programs on the local computer, if you've got a copy of the audio program you're using on it. I think you can still assign a drive letter to a remote box for the occasional program that can't use a network resource, but ICBW. -- Tciao for Now! John. |
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On 10/11/2014 13:05, Mike Rivers wrote:
On 11/10/2014 7:28 AM, OLD_CS1_enter wrote: Recently set up remote desktop to use the laptops to control the desktop and vice versa. I am having one difficulty I need to work around. I have several audio programs on the desktop that I can control remotely via the laptop, but when I play the audio files they of course can only be heard at the desktop. How can I also hear the audio files on the controlling computer? You can't, unless the audio files are on the controlling computer. Of course you could run audio from the desktop computer to the laptop through a wire or wireless hookup. If the desktop computer has Bluetooth, you could (I'm guessing here since I've never tried it) assign the audio playback to that device and use a Bluetooth speaker at the laptop. I don't think you could connect Bluetooth-to-bluetooth between the two computers, but you could play around with that. Or you could set up a streaming server on the desktop and connect to that from the laptop. Nothing is going to be simple, though. Would Virtual Audio Cable work in this case? Run one instance on the main computer and another on the laptop. http://software.muzychenko.net/eng/vac.htm -- Tciao for Now! John. |
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hearing audio files on host computer controlling guest on remote desktop?
"OLD_CS1_enter" skrev i en meddelelse
... Recently set up remote desktop to use the laptops to control the desktop and vice versa. I am having one difficulty I need to work around. I have several audio programs on the desktop that I can control remotely via the laptop, but when I play the audio files they of course can only be heard at the desktop. Look at the options for the remote desktop client, IF the audio software goes by the rules it can be asked to deliver the audio to the client computer via the rdp-protocol. This IS how it is, just answer the question about what to do with the remote audio. Audition 1.5 gets it right, Adobe replaced the playback engine so it broke for versions 2 and 3, dunno if they fixed it, it may be intentional that they laid hindrances in the way for using their software on a terminal server. How can I also hear the audio files on the controlling computer? IF the above fails and you need to have access to the "front session", the visibile session, on the host pc, then radmin is very good. That ended up being my choice while I used Audition 1.5, I just wired the cloud pc to my monitor setup, using the internal sound card, HP tends to get that good in their pc's and laptops. Thanks! Kind regards Peter Larsen |
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hearing audio files on host computer controlling guest on remote desktop?
On 11/10/2014 7:28 AM, OLD_CS1_enter wrote:
Recently set up remote desktop to use the laptops to control the desktop and vice versa. I am having one difficulty I need to work around. I have several audio programs on the desktop that I can control remotely via the laptop, but when I play the audio files they of course can only be heard at the desktop. How can I also hear the audio files on the controlling computer? You can't, unless the audio files are on the controlling computer. Wrong if the software is not broken by design, it may be necessary to select the rdp-virtual soundcard for playback. Or you could set up a streaming server on the desktop and connect to that from the laptop. Or use Radmin and connect the host to the playback system. Nothing is going to be simple, though. Audio via rdp is simple and usually works if not intentionally broken. I did however find it a better solution to connect the host pc to the playback system and use Radmin and then edit on the laptop while sitting in ye comfy olde listening chair. Kind regards Peter Larsen |
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hearing audio files on host computer controlling guest on remote desktop?
"Peter Larsen" skrev i en meddelelse
k... On 11/10/2014 7:28 AM, OLD_CS1_enter wrote: Recently set up remote desktop to use the laptops to control the desktop and vice versa. I am having one difficulty I need to work around. I have several audio programs on the desktop that I can control remotely via the laptop, but when I play the audio files they of course can only be heard at the desktop. How can I also hear the audio files on the controlling computer? You can't, unless the audio files are on the controlling computer. Wrong if the software is not broken by design, it may be necessary to select the rdp-virtual soundcard for playback. Or you could set up a streaming server on the desktop and connect to that from the laptop. Or use Radmin and connect the host to the playback system. Nothing is going to be simple, though. Audio via rdp is simple and usually works if not intentionally broken. I did however find it a better solution to connect the host pc to the playback system and use Radmin and then edit on the laptop while sitting in ye comfy olde listening chair. Oh, and on the rdp client you can in fact also select "leave audio at host", I plain hadn't looked properly on what the client allowed back then. Kind regards Peter Larsen |
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hearing audio files on host computer controlling guest on remotedesktop?
On 11/10/2014 10:57 AM, Peter Larsen wrote:
Wrong if the software is not broken by design, it may be necessary to select the rdp-virtual soundcard for playback. What's rdp-virtual soundcard? Or (John) Virtual Audio Cable)? Sounds like a solution, if it works. Or use Radmin and connect the host to the playback system. Another program that apparently at least two of us here don't know about. Explain please. Audio via rdp is simple and usually works if not intentionally broken. Why would something be intentionally broken? Do you mean that whatever it is, it's not accessible by the remote desktop client, the sound card on the remote computer, or the host computer? How does this all work? No, I don't want to read web pages, I'd just like a clue. -- For a good time, visit http://mikeriversaudio.wordpress.com |
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Mike Rivers wrote:
No, I don't want to read web pages, I'd just like a clue. Did you want a small clue or a large one? And would that be over easy or straight up? {;-)= quote Radmin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radmin Wikipedia Radmin (Remote Administrator) is a product of Famatech International Corp. It is remote control software for Microsoft Windows which uses the Mirror Driver ... /quote When I control windows remotely it's usually with a sponge and a squeegee. Search results for the virtual soundcard ("Look, ma, nothing to throw out the window!!") virtual audio cable confused me so badly I'll stop now. -- shut up and play your guitar * HankAlrich.Com HankandShaidriMusic.Com YouTube.Com/WalkinayMusic |
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hearing audio files on host computer controlling guest on remotedesktop?
On 11/10/2014 2:57 PM, hank alrich wrote:
Did you want a small clue or a large one? And would that be over easy or straight up? {;-)= An executive summary, in his own words. What it does, what it requires for setup (including how many brain cells), what operating system(s), and how much does it cost? -- For a good time, visit http://mikeriversaudio.wordpress.com |
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hearing audio files on host computer controlling guest on remote desktop?
"Mike Rivers" skrev i en meddelelse
... On 11/10/2014 10:57 AM, Peter Larsen wrote: Wrong if the software is not broken by design, it may be necessary to select the rdp-virtual soundcard for playback. What's rdp-virtual soundcard? The audio driver that sends the audio to the client computer for rendering there. Since there is no hardware involvement on the server computer it is by definition virtual. Or use Radmin and connect the host to the playback system. Another program that apparently at least two of us here don't know about. Explain please. Radmin == [R]emore[admin]istrator and is the only remote desktop server-client (!) solution that appears to be faster and better than Microsofts own rdp-protocol at rendering animations, such as phase plots and dynamic fft's. Audio via rdp is simple and usually works if not intentionally broken. Why would something be intentionally broken? Because it might be that Adobe does not want its Audition software used on a terminal server where - given sufficient hardware - an entire university can use one license, possibly not an intended side effect of taking the audio playback module from Premiere and using it in Audition, which is what they did (according to an answer to my complaint over rdp playback being broken) when updating from 1.5 to 2. Do you mean that whatever it is, it's not accessible by the remote desktop client, the sound card on the remote computer, or the host computer? How does this all work? No, I don't want to read web pages, I'd just like a clue. A good sporting attempt at an exec summary provided above. Kind regards Peter Larsen |
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hearing audio files on host computer controlling guest on remotedesktop?
On 11/10/2014 5:24 PM, Peter Larsen wrote:
What's rdp-virtual soundcard? The audio driver that sends the audio to the client computer for rendering there. Since there is no hardware involvement on the server computer it is by definition virtual. Who's sending what to whom? Does the host (server) see the virtual sound card on the client computer when the client has the virtual soundcard driver loaded? -- For a good time, visit http://mikeriversaudio.wordpress.com |
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Mike Rivers wrote:
On 11/10/2014 2:57 PM, hank alrich wrote: Did you want a small clue or a large one? And would that be over easy or straight up? {;-)= An executive summary, in his own words. What it does, what it requires for setup (including how many brain cells), what operating system(s), and how much does it cost? ˆš -- shut up and play your guitar * HankAlrich.Com HankandShaidriMusic.Com YouTube.Com/WalkinayMusic |
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hearing audio files on host computer controlling guest on remote desktop?
"Mike Rivers" skrev i en meddelelse
... On 11/10/2014 5:24 PM, Peter Larsen wrote: What's rdp-virtual soundcard? The audio driver that sends the audio to the client computer for rendering there. Since there is no hardware involvement on the server computer it is by definition virtual. Who's sending what to whom? Does the host (server) see the virtual sound card on the client computer No, it just sees another sound card driver that happens to output via the rdp-protocol instead of via a hardware sound card. when the client has the virtual soundcard driver loaded? No no no, the client has the "other half" of the rdp-package loaded and it outputs audio to the client hardware driver and sound card just like any other audio-using application. Kind regards Peter Larsen |
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On 11/11/2014 10:45 AM, Peter Larsen wrote:
"Mike Rivers" skrev i en meddelelse ... On 11/10/2014 5:24 PM, Peter Larsen wrote: What's rdp-virtual soundcard? The audio driver that sends the audio to the client computer for rendering there. Since there is no hardware involvement on the server computer it is by definition virtual. Who's sending what to whom? Does the host (server) see the virtual sound card on the client computer No, it just sees another sound card driver that happens to output via the rdp-protocol instead of via a hardware sound card. when the client has the virtual soundcard driver loaded? No no no, the client has the "other half" of the rdp-package loaded and it outputs audio to the client hardware driver and sound card just like any other audio-using application. I'm just dense here. I guess I'll have to see it. I know about hardware and its associated drivers, but this virtual driver stuff is too much for my imagination. -- For a good time, visit http://mikeriversaudio.wordpress.com |
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Mike Rivers wrote:
On 11/11/2014 10:45 AM, Peter Larsen wrote: "Mike Rivers" skrev i en meddelelse ... On 11/10/2014 5:24 PM, Peter Larsen wrote: What's rdp-virtual soundcard? The audio driver that sends the audio to the client computer for rendering there. Since there is no hardware involvement on the server computer it is by definition virtual. Who's sending what to whom? Does the host (server) see the virtual sound card on the client computer No, it just sees another sound card driver that happens to output via the rdp-protocol instead of via a hardware sound card. when the client has the virtual soundcard driver loaded? No no no, the client has the "other half" of the rdp-package loaded and it outputs audio to the client hardware driver and sound card just like any other audio-using application. I'm just dense here. I guess I'll have to see it. I know about hardware and its associated drivers, but this virtual driver stuff is too much for my imagination. Let me give this a try. On your computer you have a music app which generates sound data. It passes that data on to your sound card driver, which takes the data in a standardized format and passes it on to the actual sound card hardware. So now, on the host computer, we replace the sound card driver with another one that takes your sound data and spits it out over to the network to the client computer. The client computer has a special audio app on it that listens for the data from the host's driver on the network. It takes that data, does whatever jiggery-pokery is required, and then passes that data on to the normal sound card driver on the client computer. Voila! Remote audio. |
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Mike Rivers wrote:
On 11/11/2014 10:45 AM, Peter Larsen wrote: "Mike Rivers" skrev i en meddelelse ... On 11/10/2014 5:24 PM, Peter Larsen wrote: What's rdp-virtual soundcard? The audio driver that sends the audio to the client computer for rendering there. Since there is no hardware involvement on the server computer it is by definition virtual. Who's sending what to whom? Does the host (server) see the virtual sound card on the client computer No, it just sees another sound card driver that happens to output via the rdp-protocol instead of via a hardware sound card. when the client has the virtual soundcard driver loaded? No no no, the client has the "other half" of the rdp-package loaded and it outputs audio to the client hardware driver and sound card just like any other audio-using application. I'm just dense here. I guess I'll have to see it. I know about hardware and its associated drivers, but this virtual driver stuff is too much for my imagination. Isn't this sort of a server client relationship, virtually? -- shut up and play your guitar * HankAlrich.Com HankandShaidriMusic.Com YouTube.Com/WalkinayMusic |
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Ralph Barone wrote:
Mike Rivers wrote: On 11/11/2014 10:45 AM, Peter Larsen wrote: "Mike Rivers" skrev i en meddelelse ... On 11/10/2014 5:24 PM, Peter Larsen wrote: What's rdp-virtual soundcard? The audio driver that sends the audio to the client computer for rendering there. Since there is no hardware involvement on the server computer it is by definition virtual. Who's sending what to whom? Does the host (server) see the virtual sound card on the client computer No, it just sees another sound card driver that happens to output via the rdp-protocol instead of via a hardware sound card. when the client has the virtual soundcard driver loaded? No no no, the client has the "other half" of the rdp-package loaded and it outputs audio to the client hardware driver and sound card just like any other audio-using application. I'm just dense here. I guess I'll have to see it. I know about hardware and its associated drivers, but this virtual driver stuff is too much for my imagination. Let me give this a try. On your computer you have a music app which generates sound data. It passes that data on to your sound card driver, which takes the data in a standardized format and passes it on to the actual sound card hardware. So now, on the host computer, we replace the sound card driver with another one that takes your sound data and spits it out over to the network to the client computer. The client computer has a special audio app on it that listens for the data from the host's driver on the network. It takes that data, does whatever jiggery-pokery is required, and then passes that data on to the normal sound card driver on the client computer. Voila! Remote audio. Ralph, thanks. Man, you are good at that explaining! -- shut up and play your guitar * HankAlrich.Com HankandShaidriMusic.Com YouTube.Com/WalkinayMusic |
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On 11/11/2014 11:33 AM, Ralph Barone wrote:
On your computer you have a music app which generates sound data. It passes that data on to your sound card driver, which takes the data in a standardized format and passes it on to the actual sound card hardware. So now, on the host computer, we replace the sound card driver with another one that takes your sound data and spits it out over to the network to the client computer. The client computer has a special audio app on it that listens for the data from the host's driver on the network. It takes that data, does whatever jiggery-pokery is required, and then passes that data on to the normal sound card driver on the client computer. Voila! Remote audio. That's pretty much how I envisioned it. Thanks for the plain language explanation rather than names of programs that I don't know. Those only matter to people who actually want to do this, and I'm sure they understood what Peter was talking about. -- For a good time, visit http://mikeriversaudio.wordpress.com |
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Mike Rivers wrote:
On 11/11/2014 11:33 AM, Ralph Barone wrote: On your computer you have a music app which generates sound data. It passes that data on to your sound card driver, which takes the data in a standardized format and passes it on to the actual sound card hardware. So now, on the host computer, we replace the sound card driver with another one that takes your sound data and spits it out over to the network to the client computer. The client computer has a special audio app on it that listens for the data from the host's driver on the network. It takes that data, does whatever jiggery-pokery is required, and then passes that data on to the normal sound card driver on the client computer. Voila! Remote audio. That's pretty much how I envisioned it. Thanks for the plain language explanation rather than names of programs that I don't know. Those only matter to people who actually want to do this, and I'm sure they understood what Peter was talking about. No problem. I don't know the names of the programs either, so it was easy to not mention them. |
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On Mon, 10 Nov 2014 16:10:34 -0800, (hank alrich)
wrote: Mike Rivers wrote: On 11/10/2014 2:57 PM, hank alrich wrote: Did you want a small clue or a large one? And would that be over easy or straight up? {;-)= An executive summary, in his own words. What it does, what it requires for setup (including how many brain cells), what operating system(s), and how much does it cost? ? What's the deal with http://www.videolan.org/ |
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Gray_Wolf wrote:
On Mon, 10 Nov 2014 16:10:34 -0800, (hank alrich) wrote: Mike Rivers wrote: On 11/10/2014 2:57 PM, hank alrich wrote: Did you want a small clue or a large one? And would that be over easy or straight up? {;-)= An executive summary, in his own words. What it does, what it requires for setup (including how many brain cells), what operating system(s), and how much does it cost? ? What's the deal with http://www.videolan.org/ Beyond using the VLC player I know nothing. It appears to work when I need it, which is not often. Thanks for mentioning them, because my version was way out of date. I note they're working on an open source video editing program. I could take interest in that. -- shut up and play your guitar * HankAlrich.Com HankandShaidriMusic.Com YouTube.Com/WalkinayMusic |
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Mike Rivers wrote: "Nov 11Mike Rivers
- show quoted text - I'm just dense here. I guess I'll have to see it. I know about hardware and its associated drivers, but this virtual driver stuff is too much for my imagination. - show quoted text -" That's no excuse for the way N0ne Alrich treated you. |
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... flush kman You seem to think I'm Alrich. I guess when you're a dumb****, you're just a dum****. It's no surprise that you can't tell the difference, since you can't tell one dB from another, you don't know the difference between a reference level and a compressor, and you're still whining about being booted out of gearslutz for being a dumb****. A persistent and annoying dumb**** who was too stupid to follow the rules, even after repeated warnings. You can't even tell the difference between **** and Shinola, even after stepping in it. So eat Shinola, dumb****. |
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On Wed, 12 Nov 2014 07:42:37 -0800, hank alrich wrote:
Gray_Wolf wrote: On Mon, 10 Nov 2014 16:10:34 -0800, (hank alrich) wrote: Mike Rivers wrote: On 11/10/2014 2:57 PM, hank alrich wrote: Did you want a small clue or a large one? And would that be over easy or straight up? {;-)= An executive summary, in his own words. What it does, what it requires for setup (including how many brain cells), what operating system(s), and how much does it cost? ? What's the deal with http://www.videolan.org/ Beyond using the VLC player I know nothing. It appears to work when I need it, which is not often. Thanks for mentioning them, because my version was way out of date. I note they're working on an open source video editing program. I could take interest in that. There's openshot.org that does that, and seems to work reasonably, but it is only for Linux. I don't know about its audio capabilities though. Mat Nieuwenhoven |
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