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Arfa Daily wrote: "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message ... Arfa Daily wrote: "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message m... David Nebenzahl wrote: I inherited a repair job that I can't get started because I can't get the damn amp open. It's a Galaxy Audio Core PA5X140 all-in-one PA. It's a tough little unit, with a die-cast metal chassis set into a thick rugged plastic (polypropylene?) case, that can sit on top of a mike stand. Similar to this one: http://galaxyaudio.com/MSPA.jsp. The front of the chassis has 6 screws into the case, and there's one on the back I removed, but I still can't get the chassis out of the case. I tried prying the case, thinking there might be some cast-in lugs I could open, but no luck, and I didn't want to risk chewing up the edge of the case. Does anyone have any idea how to open up this unit? At least no one has suggested a Plsma Cutter! ;-) Nah! "Angle grinder" as they always say over on uk.d-i-y :-) Angle grinders are for amateurs and wimps. It takes a real prow to cut something open with a plasma cutter and still have anything left to repair. It's a standing joke on that group Michael. "Angle grinder" is the 'silly' answer when anyone asks for instance how to dismantle a ceramic cartridge shower valve to clean it, or anything referring to a 'delicate' job. British humour, and all that ... :-) And you still don't get American humor. ;-) -- Politicians should only get paid if the budget is balanced, and there is enough left over to pay them. |
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On 9/16/2010 7:19 AM, William Sommerwerck wrote:
Sure enough, removing the nut from the phone jack allowed the whole unit to slip rather easily out of the case Sheesh. You "shoulda" known enough to do that, at least. Good grief. Its not really self evident that the jack is connected to the PC board. When I took mine apart, I certainly did NOT think it was that way. I eventually figured it out, but it took a while. I assumed it was just a raw jack connected with loose wires to the amplifier. This sort of assembly is not that uncommon, as it reduces manufacturing costs. It also makes testing the amplifier a bit easier. I've seen expensive equipment that did the same thing, making the device virtually unassembleable. Its always a challenge these days to get apart some modern "Unfixable"electronics. They really don't want you to fix them or open them up. I sometimes get LCD monitors with issues that i try to fix. Its always a game to figure out where on the case the latches are on the clam shell and to pry and not bugger up the case too much. I usually get them apart, but sometimes there are "battle scars" in the process. Even some remote controls are not the easiest things to open up. I solved that by just giving them to my wife. She gets mad and throws them at me and they mysteriously open up in parts... the real fun is trying to get a power supply or such apart that is spot welded together or glued. Thats more of a 50/50 deal if you can get it apart without destroying it. I like a good joke as much as anyone else. But when someone ask for help and is maybe not a expert at least cut the guy some slack. Give an answer and them make the smart comments. bob |
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"Smitty Two" wrote in message
news In article , David Nebenzahl wrote: Sure enough, removing the nut from the phone jack allowed the whole unit to slip rather easily out of the case Sheesh. You "shoulda" known enough to do that, at least. Good grief. I feel stupid for not suggesting removing the nuts on the phone jacks. I've seen this done sooooo many times. I can't remember the last time I saw a phone jack that *wasn't* soldered to a circuit card. |
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"William Sommerwerck" wrote in
: "thanatoid" What a handle -- "the form of death". Wow, I certainly DO appreciate you explaining it to me! Sigh. I wasn't explaining it... I was acknowledging it. Clever. OK. Sorry. :-) Oops! Sorry! %-# !!! Not that clever, really, I was very depressed and suicidal for most of my life. Recently I have been feeling better, but that's another subject. -- "Anytime I hear the word "culture", I reach for my iPad." - 21st Century Humanoid |
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.com: snip Thanks for the first and only really helpful reply in this whole damn thread. You, sir, are a gentleman and a scholar. Sure enough, removing the nut from the phone jack allowed the whole unit to slip rather easily out of the case (I used a heavy knife blade betwixt the case and chassis to start it). WHAT? You did NOT do that when you removed all the screws? I have not been reading the thread carefully ever since you ignored my request for a photograph, but DUUH! The amp appears to be fine; there's either a problem with the XLR mike input jack, or with the mike cable we were using. (Can't test because I have no XLR plugs.) WHERE are you (as in, forest, garage with NO tools, an audio shop run by Scientologists who believe the e-meter is the only piece of electronic test equipment anyone needs) ???????? SIGH. BTW, I have learned over the last 4 decades that it's ALWAYS the cable (and if it's not, you **still** test any cables FIRST before you do ANYTHING, including attempting to open an audio box [when you should let your friends open your canned food for you] let alone flooding an NG with clueless posts for a week), and /had/ you posted like a person with a clue, I would have told you to try another cable - I know you don't have one, BUY one! !!!!!! -- "Anytime I hear the word "culture", I reach for my iPad." - 21st Century Humanoid |
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Michael A. Terrell wrote:
David Nebenzahl wrote: Does anyone have any idea how to open up this unit? At least no one has suggested a Plsma Cutter! ;-) If you try brute force and it did not work, you were not using ENOUGH! ;^) |
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On 9/16/2010 6:57 AM Arny Krueger spake thus:
"Smitty Two" wrote in message news In article , David Nebenzahl wrote: Sure enough, removing the nut from the phone jack allowed the whole unit to slip rather easily out of the case Sheesh. You "shoulda" known enough to do that, at least. Good grief. I feel stupid for not suggesting removing the nuts on the phone jacks. I've seen this done sooooo many times. Oh, so I guess that means I'm *not* a total retard, eh? Thanks for that. I can't remember the last time I saw a phone jack that *wasn't* soldered to a circuit card. Me neither. Now that I've disassembled this it makes perfect sense, as it allows the amp to be put together in a neat package with no external wires except for the power cord. With the 6 front-panel screws and the phone-jack nut removed, it's actually *very* easy to disassemble. Not a hard nut to crack at all, like so much other plastic-packaged electronics. -- The fashion in killing has an insouciant, flirty style this spring, with the flaunting of well-defined muscle, wrapped in flags. - Comment from an article on Antiwar.com (http://antiwar.com) |
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On 9/16/2010 8:15 AM thanatoid spake thus:
David Nebenzahl wrote in .com: snip Thanks for the first and only really helpful reply in this whole damn thread. You, sir, are a gentleman and a scholar. Sure enough, removing the nut from the phone jack allowed the whole unit to slip rather easily out of the case (I used a heavy knife blade betwixt the case and chassis to start it). WHAT? You did NOT do that when you removed all the screws? I have not been reading the thread carefully ever since you ignored my request for a photograph, but DUUH! The amp appears to be fine; there's either a problem with the XLR mike input jack, or with the mike cable we were using. (Can't test because I have no XLR plugs.) WHERE are you (as in, forest, garage with NO tools, an audio shop run by Scientologists who believe the e-meter is the only piece of electronic test equipment anyone needs) ???????? SIGH. BTW, I have learned over the last 4 decades that it's ALWAYS the cable (and if it's not, you **still** test any cables FIRST before you do ANYTHING, including attempting to open an audio box [when you should let your friends open your canned food for you] let alone flooding an NG with clueless posts for a week), and /had/ you posted like a person with a clue, I would have told you to try another cable - I know you don't have one, BUY one! Look, you little **** (and keep in mind that *you* were the first one in this thread to use profanity): let me explain my situation for your little pea-brain to understand. I am not a professional electronics repairperson. I don't maintain a repair shop, nor solicit repairs. This is why I own no XLR connectors: normally I have absolutely no need for such things. I have no sound equipment, microphones, etc. This one just landed in my lap. I used to be in a band, the leader of which just recently died, and when we tried to use this amp at a gig, it failed. I offered to diagnose it and determine what was wrong with it. I'm 99.99% sure that the problem is outboard of the jack connections on the amp simply by doing the "touch the input connection and listen for hum" test. The amp responded admirably well to this test, so I'm certain it works. The problem, then, is obviously either the jack on the amp or somewhere in the microphone cable being used. There wasn't enough time to get another cable and test it. So if you want to continue to berate me for some perceived slight against the propriety of this newsgroup, which after all is supposed to be a source of information for people seeking such, well then, go right ahead and be my guest. -- The fashion in killing has an insouciant, flirty style this spring, with the flaunting of well-defined muscle, wrapped in flags. - Comment from an article on Antiwar.com (http://antiwar.com) |
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On 9/16/2010 8:06 AM thanatoid spake thus:
"William Sommerwerck" wrote in : "thanatoid" What a handle -- "the form of death". Wow, I certainly DO appreciate you explaining it to me! Sigh. I wasn't explaining it... I was acknowledging it. Clever. OK. Sorry. :-) Oops! Sorry! %-# !!! Not that clever, really, I was very depressed and suicidal for most of my life. Recently I have been feeling better, but that's another subject. I'm sorry to hear that (that you're feeling better, that is). -- The fashion in killing has an insouciant, flirty style this spring, with the flaunting of well-defined muscle, wrapped in flags. - Comment from an article on Antiwar.com (http://antiwar.com) |
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"Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message ... Arfa Daily wrote: "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message ... Arfa Daily wrote: "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message m... David Nebenzahl wrote: I inherited a repair job that I can't get started because I can't get the damn amp open. It's a Galaxy Audio Core PA5X140 all-in-one PA. It's a tough little unit, with a die-cast metal chassis set into a thick rugged plastic (polypropylene?) case, that can sit on top of a mike stand. Similar to this one: http://galaxyaudio.com/MSPA.jsp. The front of the chassis has 6 screws into the case, and there's one on the back I removed, but I still can't get the chassis out of the case. I tried prying the case, thinking there might be some cast-in lugs I could open, but no luck, and I didn't want to risk chewing up the edge of the case. Does anyone have any idea how to open up this unit? At least no one has suggested a Plsma Cutter! ;-) Nah! "Angle grinder" as they always say over on uk.d-i-y :-) Angle grinders are for amateurs and wimps. It takes a real prow to cut something open with a plasma cutter and still have anything left to repair. It's a standing joke on that group Michael. "Angle grinder" is the 'silly' answer when anyone asks for instance how to dismantle a ceramic cartridge shower valve to clean it, or anything referring to a 'delicate' job. British humour, and all that ... :-) And you still don't get American humor. ;-) Wot ! You mean there is such a thing ... ? d:-} Arfa |
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On 9/16/2010 6:03 PM Arfa Daily spake thus:
"Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message And you still don't get American humor. ;-) Wot ! You mean there is such a thing ... ? d:-} Nah, all our humor comes from the UK: Monty Python, Dame Edna, Eddy Izzard, Tracy Ullman, etc. Ackshooly, I've been saying for years that there are two types of Americans distinguishable by their taste for Brit humor. One one side we have the PBS-type humor, exemplified by "Are You Being Served?" (which I despise); on the other are those who like Benny Hill. I'm in the latter camp myself. (Hey, what's better than total slapstick? Worked for Chaplin ...) -- The fashion in killing has an insouciant, flirty style this spring, with the flaunting of well-defined muscle, wrapped in flags. - Comment from an article on Antiwar.com (http://antiwar.com) |
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Arfa Daily wrote:
"Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message ... Arfa Daily wrote: "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message ... Arfa Daily wrote: "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message m... David Nebenzahl wrote: I inherited a repair job that I can't get started because I can't get the damn amp open. It's a Galaxy Audio Core PA5X140 all-in-one PA. It's a tough little unit, with a die-cast metal chassis set into a thick rugged plastic (polypropylene?) case, that can sit on top of a mike stand. Similar to this one: http://galaxyaudio.com/MSPA.jsp. The front of the chassis has 6 screws into the case, and there's one on the back I removed, but I still can't get the chassis out of the case. I tried prying the case, thinking there might be some cast-in lugs I could open, but no luck, and I didn't want to risk chewing up the edge of the case. Does anyone have any idea how to open up this unit? At least no one has suggested a Plsma Cutter! ;-) Nah! "Angle grinder" as they always say over on uk.d-i-y :-) Angle grinders are for amateurs and wimps. It takes a real prow to cut something open with a plasma cutter and still have anything left to repair. It's a standing joke on that group Michael. "Angle grinder" is the 'silly' answer when anyone asks for instance how to dismantle a ceramic cartridge shower valve to clean it, or anything referring to a 'delicate' job. British humour, and all that ... :-) And you still don't get American humor. ;-) Wot ! You mean there is such a thing ... ? d:-} Arfa Sure, look who get elected as our leaders |
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"David Nebenzahl" wrote in message .com... On 9/15/2010 10:33 AM William Sommerwerck spake thus: I'm sure most people in this group have noticed how remote controls are generally held together with screws /and/ near- unreleasable tabs. I've never understood why both are needed. No, it's not, and you're misunderstanding the packaging here. My point was about the /philosophy/ of the packaging. Why belts+suspenders, when only one is needed? Ah, so. Actually describes my problem here quite well; why doesn't this damn thing open up when I remove the screws, which seemed to hold the thing together quite securely? Perhaps it will.....Have you used sufficient force? |
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On 9/16/2010 6:26 PM Bill Graham spake thus:
"David Nebenzahl" wrote in message .com... On 9/15/2010 10:33 AM William Sommerwerck spake thus: I'm sure most people in this group have noticed how remote controls are generally held together with screws /and/ near- unreleasable tabs. I've never understood why both are needed. No, it's not, and you're misunderstanding the packaging here. My point was about the /philosophy/ of the packaging. Why belts+suspenders, when only one is needed? Ah, so. Actually describes my problem here quite well; why doesn't this damn thing open up when I remove the screws, which seemed to hold the thing together quite securely? Perhaps it will.....Have you used sufficient force? More force is definitely not the answer (despite the many jokes here about dynamite, angle grinders, etc.) The key was removing the nut around a phone jack on the back of the case, which you'd know if you read through the rest of the thread. -- The fashion in killing has an insouciant, flirty style this spring, with the flaunting of well-defined muscle, wrapped in flags. - Comment from an article on Antiwar.com (http://antiwar.com) |
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"Jamie" t wrote in message ... David Nebenzahl wrote: On 9/15/2010 9:52 AM William Sommerwerck spake thus: This product appears to be the pro-audio equivalent of most remote controls. I'm sure most people in this group have noticed how remote controls are generally held together with screws /and/ near-unreleasable tabs. I've never understood why both are needed. No, it's not, and you're misunderstanding the packaging here. There's a diecast metal front panel which covers the entire front of the unit, with a deeply set grille for the speaker. Six screws attach the metal panel to the plastic cabinet. The plastic cabinet is ONE PIECE, totally seamless, covering the remaining 5 sides. So it's not a clamshell like most remotes or similarly packaged electronics. it most likely has a sealant between the front and plastic case to prevent vibration at the seem, which is common with that type of construction.. These things will stick like mild glue.. With the screws half way, wrap the unit in a soft wrap of some kind like foam rubber so you don't scratch it, rest it on a pillow and use something like a piece of wood to hit lightly against the screws that are half way out.. The shock should push on the plastic behind and break the bond!. Yes.....Even if you were to crack the plastic, cracked plastic is a fairly easy thing to fix, and/or live with. Consider cutting a large hole in the back, which can later be covered with a glued- on piece of plastic, and used as an inspection/access hole in the interim. ( I belong to the, "get a bigger hammer" school of maintenance....:^) |
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"Arfa Daily" wrote in message ... "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message ... Arfa Daily wrote: "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message ... Arfa Daily wrote: "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message m... David Nebenzahl wrote: I inherited a repair job that I can't get started because I can't get the damn amp open. It's a Galaxy Audio Core PA5X140 all-in-one PA. It's a tough little unit, with a die-cast metal chassis set into a thick rugged plastic (polypropylene?) case, that can sit on top of a mike stand. Similar to this one: http://galaxyaudio.com/MSPA.jsp. The front of the chassis has 6 screws into the case, and there's one on the back I removed, but I still can't get the chassis out of the case. I tried prying the case, thinking there might be some cast-in lugs I could open, but no luck, and I didn't want to risk chewing up the edge of the case. Does anyone have any idea how to open up this unit? At least no one has suggested a Plsma Cutter! ;-) Nah! "Angle grinder" as they always say over on uk.d-i-y :-) Angle grinders are for amateurs and wimps. It takes a real prow to cut something open with a plasma cutter and still have anything left to repair. It's a standing joke on that group Michael. "Angle grinder" is the 'silly' answer when anyone asks for instance how to dismantle a ceramic cartridge shower valve to clean it, or anything referring to a 'delicate' job. British humour, and all that ... :-) And you still don't get American humor. ;-) Wot ! You mean there is such a thing ... ? d:-} Arfa The American equivalent is, "Get a bigger hammer". |
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"David Nebenzahl" wrote in message .com... On 9/16/2010 6:26 PM Bill Graham spake thus: "David Nebenzahl" wrote in message .com... On 9/15/2010 10:33 AM William Sommerwerck spake thus: I'm sure most people in this group have noticed how remote controls are generally held together with screws /and/ near- unreleasable tabs. I've never understood why both are needed. No, it's not, and you're misunderstanding the packaging here. My point was about the /philosophy/ of the packaging. Why belts+suspenders, when only one is needed? Ah, so. Actually describes my problem here quite well; why doesn't this damn thing open up when I remove the screws, which seemed to hold the thing together quite securely? Perhaps it will.....Have you used sufficient force? More force is definitely not the answer (despite the many jokes here about dynamite, angle grinders, etc.) The key was removing the nut around a phone jack on the back of the case, which you'd know if you read through the rest of the thread. As you probably know from reading my posts on other forums, David, I do my emailing serially, and seldom have the time or inclination to, "Read the rest of the thread." For one thing, I only get to email at all for a short time each day, and I try, as far as I can, to be helpful during that short time. I would think that you would be a little kinder to those of us who are trying to help you with your problem.....You treat all of us like we are just a bunch of smart asses, even though there are some of us who would really like to help you.....If you would prefer, I can always put you in my kill file, so I won't "waste your time" in the future. |
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Arfa Daily wrote: "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message ... Arfa Daily wrote: "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message ... Arfa Daily wrote: "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message m... David Nebenzahl wrote: I inherited a repair job that I can't get started because I can't get the damn amp open. It's a Galaxy Audio Core PA5X140 all-in-one PA. It's a tough little unit, with a die-cast metal chassis set into a thick rugged plastic (polypropylene?) case, that can sit on top of a mike stand. Similar to this one: http://galaxyaudio.com/MSPA.jsp. The front of the chassis has 6 screws into the case, and there's one on the back I removed, but I still can't get the chassis out of the case. I tried prying the case, thinking there might be some cast-in lugs I could open, but no luck, and I didn't want to risk chewing up the edge of the case. Does anyone have any idea how to open up this unit? At least no one has suggested a Plsma Cutter! ;-) Nah! "Angle grinder" as they always say over on uk.d-i-y :-) Angle grinders are for amateurs and wimps. It takes a real prow to cut something open with a plasma cutter and still have anything left to repair. It's a standing joke on that group Michael. "Angle grinder" is the 'silly' answer when anyone asks for instance how to dismantle a ceramic cartridge shower valve to clean it, or anything referring to a 'delicate' job. British humour, and all that ... :-) And you still don't get American humor. ;-) Wot ! You mean there is such a thing ... ? d:-} Sure, but your senses have been dulled by a lifetime of exposure to 'British Humor' ;-) -- Politicians should only get paid if the budget is balanced, and there is enough left over to pay them. |
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Bill Graham wrote: "Arfa Daily" wrote in message ... "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message ... Arfa Daily wrote: "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message ... Arfa Daily wrote: "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message m... David Nebenzahl wrote: I inherited a repair job that I can't get started because I can't get the damn amp open. It's a Galaxy Audio Core PA5X140 all-in-one PA. It's a tough little unit, with a die-cast metal chassis set into a thick rugged plastic (polypropylene?) case, that can sit on top of a mike stand. Similar to this one: http://galaxyaudio.com/MSPA.jsp. The front of the chassis has 6 screws into the case, and there's one on the back I removed, but I still can't get the chassis out of the case. I tried prying the case, thinking there might be some cast-in lugs I could open, but no luck, and I didn't want to risk chewing up the edge of the case. Does anyone have any idea how to open up this unit? At least no one has suggested a Plsma Cutter! ;-) Nah! "Angle grinder" as they always say over on uk.d-i-y :-) Angle grinders are for amateurs and wimps. It takes a real prow to cut something open with a plasma cutter and still have anything left to repair. It's a standing joke on that group Michael. "Angle grinder" is the 'silly' answer when anyone asks for instance how to dismantle a ceramic cartridge shower valve to clean it, or anything referring to a 'delicate' job. British humour, and all that ... :-) And you still don't get American humor. ;-) Wot ! You mean there is such a thing ... ? d:-} Arfa The American equivalent is, "Get a bigger hammer". If you need a bigger hammer, you ARE a redneck. -- Politicians should only get paid if the budget is balanced, and there is enough left over to pay them. |
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Even if you were to crack the plastic, cracked plastic
is a fairly easy thing to fix, and/or live with. True, but cracking the case will sometimes crack the PC board. This happened to me with an irreplaceable Toshiba remote. |
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David Nebenzahl wrote in
.com: On 9/16/2010 8:15 AM thanatoid spake thus: snip WHAT? You did NOT do that when you removed all the screws? I have not been reading the thread carefully ever since you ignored my request for a photograph, but DUUH! The amp appears to be fine; there's either a problem with the XLR mike input jack, or with the mike cable we were using. (Can't test because I have no XLR plugs.) WHERE are you (as in, forest, garage with NO tools, an audio shop run by Scientologists who believe the e-meter is the only piece of electronic test equipment anyone needs) ???????? SIGH. BTW, I have learned over the last 4 decades that it's ALWAYS the cable (and if it's not, you **still** test any cables FIRST before you do ANYTHING, including attempting to open an audio box [when you should let your friends open your canned food for you] let alone flooding an NG with clueless posts for a week), and /had/ you posted like a person with a clue, I would have told you to try another cable - I know you don't have one, BUY one! Look, you little **** Is that the BEST you can do? C'mon! Work with me here! (and keep in mind that *you* were the first one in this thread to use profanity) OMG! Profanity on the Usenet! My transgression is unforgivable! Please have the mother****ing pigs come and arrest me STAT! let me explain my situation for your little pea-brain to understand. I have a HUGE head, I can never find a hat to fit me. And I have an IQ of 134. Not THAT high, but odds /are/ it's higher than yours. OTOH, head and brain size have nothing to do with intelligence. I am not a professional electronics repairperson. Neither am I. I don't maintain a repair shop, nor solicit repairs. Neither do I. This is why I own no XLR connectors: normally I have absolutely no need for such things. I have no sound equipment, microphones, etc. I used to sing (using the term loosely) and play guitar (etc.) in bands, so I have a ton of XLR (and other) connectors and cables, etc. I understand not everyone has such items on site. This one just landed in my lap. I used to be in a band, the leader of which just recently died, and when we tried to use this amp at a gig, it failed. It's not a bad idea to test other people's instruments/equipment before using them, let alone WHEN DOING A GIG. And there were NO other cables on the stage at the time, huh? I offered to diagnose it and determine what was wrong with it. Hmm. So you ALSO used to be in a band, and you don't have a single XLR cable in the house? Hmm. What kind of band? I'm 99.99% sure that the problem is outboard of the jack connections on the amp simply by doing the "touch the input connection and listen for hum" test. The amp responded admirably well to this test, so I'm certain it works.The problem, then, is obviously either the jack on the amp or somewhere in the microphone cable being used. There wasn't enough time to get another cable and test it. No, of course not. So if you want to continue to berate me for some perceived slight against the propriety of this newsgroup, which after all is supposed to be a source of information for people seeking such, well then, go right ahead and be my guest. I am not berating you, I understand why you posted your question here, but you or someone you know DO have a digital camera, you DO know how to use the internet, and you SHOULD HAVE CHECKED THE CABLE before spending a week trying to open a box you are not qualified to look inside of! WHAT were you expecting to find, a soldered cable connection /inside a sealed enclosure/ which just /decided/ to come undone for no reason whatsoever? And, BTW - an e-meter (q.v.) CAN be used to test cables, as I realized after posting. But I waited, hoping for an entertaining reply - and I was NOT disappointed! ;-) -- "Anytime I hear the word "culture", I reach for my iPad." - 21st Century Humanoid |
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David Nebenzahl wrote in
.com: On 9/16/2010 8:06 AM thanatoid spake thus: snip Not that clever, really, I was very depressed and suicidal for most of my life. Recently I have been feeling better, but that's another subject. I'm sorry to hear that (that you're feeling better, that is). In a way, so am I, BION. (For one thing, I /may/ have to think of another nick, although something tells me you - and dozens of other friends I have made on the Usenet over the years - might like to help me out with that daunting task... '****brain' is probably already taken, but please feel free to suggest other suitable nicks!) Anyway, it's not worth explaining depression to someone who probably has little understanding of the ways of the human brain, let alone of the mystifying intricacies of audio cable construction. -- "Anytime I hear the word "culture", I reach for my iPad." - 21st Century Humanoid |
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On 9/16/2010 8:30 PM thanatoid spake thus:
David Nebenzahl wrote in .com: I am not a professional electronics repairperson. Neither am I. I don't maintain a repair shop, nor solicit repairs. Neither do I. This is why I own no XLR connectors: normally I have absolutely no need for such things. I have no sound equipment, microphones, etc. I used to sing (using the term loosely) and play guitar (etc.) in bands, so I have a ton of XLR (and other) connectors and cables, etc. I understand not everyone has such items on site. Good. Sound reinforcement was never my responsibility even when I was in this band. This one just landed in my lap. I used to be in a band, the leader of which just recently died, and when we tried to use this amp at a gig, it failed. It's not a bad idea to test other people's instruments/equipment before using them, let alone WHEN DOING A GIG. The amp was not essential to the gig; we just wanted to use it to make announcements during the performance, as it was also a memorial to the founder of the band who had just died a week before. Since we were playing in a relatively small room, we make do without. And there were NO other cables on the stage at the time, huh? Nope. We're an acoustic band, generally play without any sound reinforcement at all. I offered to diagnose it and determine what was wrong with it. Hmm. So you ALSO used to be in a band, and you don't have a single XLR cable in the house? Nope. You see a problem with that? Hmm. What kind of band? Eastern European and Balkan folk and popular (from a previous century) music. Mostly totally obsolete music that most people haven't heard and don't care about. -- The fashion in killing has an insouciant, flirty style this spring, with the flaunting of well-defined muscle, wrapped in flags. - Comment from an article on Antiwar.com (http://antiwar.com) |
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thanatoid wrote: David Nebenzahl wrote in .com: On 9/16/2010 8:06 AM thanatoid spake thus: snip Not that clever, really, I was very depressed and suicidal for most of my life. Recently I have been feeling better, but that's another subject. I'm sorry to hear that (that you're feeling better, that is). In a way, so am I, BION. (For one thing, I /may/ have to think of another nick, although something tells me you - and dozens of other friends I have made on the Usenet over the years - might like to help me out with that daunting task... '****brain' is probably already taken, but please feel free to suggest other suitable nicks!) 'Dimbulb' is already taken on most of the sci.electronics groups. OTOH, he has 90 sock puppets you could steal. ;-) Anyway, it's not worth explaining depression to someone who probably has little understanding of the ways of the human brain, let alone of the mystifying intricacies of audio cable construction. The same goes for pain 24/7. -- Politicians should only get paid if the budget is balanced, and there is enough left over to pay them. |
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On Thu, 16 Sep 2010 15:39:56 -0700, David Nebenzahl wrote:
On 9/16/2010 6:57 AM Arny Krueger spake thus: "Smitty Two" wrote in message news In article , David Nebenzahl wrote: Sure enough, removing the nut from the phone jack allowed the whole unit to slip rather easily out of the case Sheesh. You "shoulda" known enough to do that, at least. Good grief. I feel stupid for not suggesting removing the nuts on the phone jacks. I've seen this done sooooo many times. Oh, so I guess that means I'm *not* a total retard, eh? Thanks for that. To those not willing to kiss ass, yes you still are a total retard What a stupid ****.. -- Live Fast, Die Young and Leave a Pretty Corpse |
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David Nebenzahl wrote in
.com: snip I used to sing (using the term loosely) and play guitar (etc.) in bands, so I have a ton of XLR (and other) connectors and cables, etc. I understand not everyone has such items on site. Good. Sound reinforcement was never my responsibility even when I was in this band. OK. This one just landed in my lap. I used to be in a band, the leader of which just recently died, and when we tried to use this amp at a gig, it failed. It's not a bad idea to test other people's instruments/equipment before using them, let alone WHEN DOING A GIG. The amp was not essential to the gig; we just wanted to use it to make announcements during the performance, as it was also a memorial to the founder of the band who had just died a week before. Since we were playing in a relatively small room, we make do without. OK. Still, next time, test something before you try to use it. And there were NO other cables on the stage at the time, huh? Nope. We're an acoustic band, generally play without any sound reinforcement at all. OK. I sort of thought this may be the case. I suppose when you played a larger venue, you would just use their PA system so did not need to know anything about sound reinforcement at all. I offered to diagnose it and determine what was wrong with it. Hmm. So you ALSO used to be in a band, and you don't have a single XLR cable in the house? Nope. You see a problem with that? Slight. IMO, it is always good to know /a little/ about things which, however occasionally, enter you field of vision. Hmm. What kind of band? Eastern European and Balkan folk and popular (from a previous century) music. Mostly totally obsolete music that most people haven't heard and don't care about. Don't assume anything. I like medieval folk music as much as I like The Sex Pistols /and/ The Carpenters. I do NOT care for acoustic-guitar-based "folk songs" played by Californians, but a lot of European folk music, Irish especially, is really cool. /And/ Eastern-Eur. -- "Anytime I hear the word "culture", I reach for my iPad." - 21st Century Humanoid |
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"A. Baum" wrote in
news On Fri, 17 Sep 2010 03:30:00 +0000, thanatoid wrote: Look, you little **** Is that the BEST you can do? C'mon! Work with me here! Yep that's the best that the Nebenzahl troll-bot imbecile can do. What did you expect from someone who let a simple 1/4 jack nut defeat him for days LMAO! You did make me laugh, but go easy on the guy. He seems OK. Not everyone knows everything, especially people who post for help in groups like this. -- "Anytime I hear the word "culture", I reach for my iPad." - 21st Century Humanoid |
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On 9/17/2010 8:11 AM thanatoid spake thus:
David Nebenzahl wrote in .com: And there were NO other cables on the stage at the time, huh? Nope. We're an acoustic band, generally play without any sound reinforcement at all. OK. I sort of thought this may be the case. I suppose when you played a larger venue, you would just use their PA system so did not need to know anything about sound reinforcement at all. Exactly. Which is the way we prefer it; we worry about our set lists and the music. They get to worry about the sound system so that we don't have to. Hmm. So you ALSO used to be in a band, and you don't have a single XLR cable in the house? Nope. You see a problem with that? Slight. IMO, it is always good to know /a little/ about things which, however occasionally, enter you field of vision. Oh, I *know* all about XLR and other connectors. I just don't happen to *have* any around, since I don't need them. -- The fashion in killing has an insouciant, flirty style this spring, with the flaunting of well-defined muscle, wrapped in flags. - Comment from an article on Antiwar.com (http://antiwar.com) |
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"A. Baum" wrote in
news snip Yep that's the best that the Nebenzahl troll-bot imbecile can do. What did you expect from someone who let a simple 1/4 jack nut defeat him for days LMAO! You did make me laugh, but go easy on the guy. He seems OK. Not everyone knows everything, especially people who post for help in groups like this. He posts his know-it-all **** in other groups yet can't figure out that you really need to remove every last visible nut/screw/bolt/fastener before giving up. Sorry but I find him an idiot and not just someone who knows less than someone else. I am new to these groups and I have not seen the other posts you refer to. I will withhold further comments besides stating that he does not /appear/ to be "an idiot", which of course does not mean he is /not/ one. But the same goes for everyone else, myself and yourself included. -- "Anytime I hear the word "culture", I reach for my iPad." - 21st Century Humanoid |
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"David Nebenzahl" wrote in message .com... On 9/16/2010 6:03 PM Arfa Daily spake thus: "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message And you still don't get American humor. ;-) Wot ! You mean there is such a thing ... ? d:-} Nah, all our humor comes from the UK: Monty Python, Dame Edna, Eddy Izzard, Tracy Ullman, etc. Ackshooly, I've been saying for years that there are two types of Americans distinguishable by their taste for Brit humor. One one side we have the PBS-type humor, exemplified by "Are You Being Served?" (which I despise); on the other are those who like Benny Hill. I'm in the latter camp myself. (Hey, what's better than total slapstick? Worked for Chaplin ...) You really shouldn't dis 'Are You Being Served ?' It was an absolute classic up there with the likes of Fawlty Towers ... The double entendre with things like Mrs Slocombe's pussy, were really quite risque for British TV at the time. Although I used to really enjoy Benny Hill for its pure slapstick, the humour was much cruder than that of AYBS. Arfa |
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"Jamie" t wrote in message ... Arfa Daily wrote: "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message ... Arfa Daily wrote: "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message ... Arfa Daily wrote: "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message m... David Nebenzahl wrote: I inherited a repair job that I can't get started because I can't get the damn amp open. It's a Galaxy Audio Core PA5X140 all-in-one PA. It's a tough little unit, with a die-cast metal chassis set into a thick rugged plastic (polypropylene?) case, that can sit on top of a mike stand. Similar to this one: http://galaxyaudio.com/MSPA.jsp. The front of the chassis has 6 screws into the case, and there's one on the back I removed, but I still can't get the chassis out of the case. I tried prying the case, thinking there might be some cast-in lugs I could open, but no luck, and I didn't want to risk chewing up the edge of the case. Does anyone have any idea how to open up this unit? At least no one has suggested a Plsma Cutter! ;-) Nah! "Angle grinder" as they always say over on uk.d-i-y :-) Angle grinders are for amateurs and wimps. It takes a real prow to cut something open with a plasma cutter and still have anything left to repair. It's a standing joke on that group Michael. "Angle grinder" is the 'silly' answer when anyone asks for instance how to dismantle a ceramic cartridge shower valve to clean it, or anything referring to a 'delicate' job. British humour, and all that ... :-) And you still don't get American humor. ;-) Wot ! You mean there is such a thing ... ? d:-} Arfa Sure, look who get elected as our leaders Well yes, but by the same token, we've just gotten rid of one load of jokers in Blair followed by Brown and their cronies. The jury is still out on their replacements, but not looking too promising so far ... Arfa |
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Wot ! You mean there is such a thing ... ? d:-} Arfa The American equivalent is, "Get a bigger hammer". If you need a bigger hammer, you ARE a redneck. Nah, that can't be right. A tour guide in Nevada told me that you could recognise a redneck by his paddling pool being dug into the ground ... :-) Arfa |
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"A. Baum" wrote in message news On Fri, 17 Sep 2010 15:14:07 +0000, thanatoid wrote: "A. Baum" wrote in news On Fri, 17 Sep 2010 03:30:00 +0000, thanatoid wrote: Look, you little **** Is that the BEST you can do? C'mon! Work with me here! Yep that's the best that the Nebenzahl troll-bot imbecile can do. What did you expect from someone who let a simple 1/4 jack nut defeat him for days LMAO! You did make me laugh, but go easy on the guy. He seems OK. Not everyone knows everything, especially people who post for help in groups like this. He posts his know-it-all **** in other groups yet can't figure out that you really need to remove every last visible nut/screw/bolt/fastener before giving up. Sorry but I find him an idiot and not just someone who knows less than someone else. And sometimes ones that are not visible. Just this week, I had a Sony sort-of-portable thing on the bench. I took out every last obvious screw, and no movement of the case halves at all. Then I discovered that the speaker baffle was removable, and when removed, found two more screws behind rubber bungs, When these were out, the case halves moved, but would still not split. The final thing holding it together was the fact that the volume pot was part of a board that remained in the rear case half, so its nut had to come off. This fooled me for a few minutes, because I was expecting that the control was part of the front board, and would come away with the front. Arfa |
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On 9/17/2010 6:42 PM Arfa Daily spake thus:
"David Nebenzahl" wrote in message .com... Ackshooly, I've been saying for years that there are two types of Americans distinguishable by their taste for Brit humor. One one side we have the PBS-type humor, exemplified by "Are You Being Served?" (which I despise); on the other are those who like Benny Hill. I'm in the latter camp myself. (Hey, what's better than total slapstick? Worked for Chaplin ...) You really shouldn't dis 'Are You Being Served ?' It was an absolute classic up there with the likes of Fawlty Towers ... The double entendre with things like Mrs Slocombe's pussy, were really quite risque for British TV at the time. Although I used to really enjoy Benny Hill for its pure slapstick, the humour was much cruder than that of AYBS. Well, not to belabor the point *too* much, but Fawlty Towers was absolutely sublime compared to either one of those other two shows. And I have to hand it to your Brits: there has never been *anything* on television to equal "The Prisoner", and I doubt there will be in my lifetime. -- The fashion in killing has an insouciant, flirty style this spring, with the flaunting of well-defined muscle, wrapped in flags. - Comment from an article on Antiwar.com (http://antiwar.com) |
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"David Nebenzahl" wrote in message
.com... On 9/16/2010 6:03 PM Arfa Daily spake thus: "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message And you still don't get American humor. ;-) Wot ! You mean there is such a thing ... ? d:-} Nah, all our humor comes from the UK: Monty Python, Dame Edna, Eddy Izzard, Tracy Ullman, etc. Ackshooly, I've been saying for years that there are two types of Americans distinguishable by their taste for Brit humor. One one side we have the PBS-type humor, exemplified by "Are You Being Served?" (which I despise); on the other are those who like Benny Hill. I'm in the latter camp myself. (Hey, what's better than total slapstick? Worked for Chaplin ...) -- The fashion in killing has an insouciant, flirty style this spring, with the flaunting of well-defined muscle, wrapped in flags. - Comment from an article on Antiwar.com (http://antiwar.com) And where do those who like "Absolutely Fabulous" fit in? |
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On 18/09/2010 03:46, David Nebenzahl wrote:
On 9/17/2010 6:42 PM Arfa Daily spake thus: "David Nebenzahl" wrote in message .com... Ackshooly, I've been saying for years that there are two types of Americans distinguishable by their taste for Brit humor. One one side we have the PBS-type humor, exemplified by "Are You Being Served?" (which I despise); on the other are those who like Benny Hill. I'm in the latter camp myself. (Hey, what's better than total slapstick? Worked for Chaplin ...) You really shouldn't dis 'Are You Being Served ?' It was an absolute classic up there with the likes of Fawlty Towers ... The double entendre with things like Mrs Slocombe's pussy, were really quite risque for British TV at the time. Although I used to really enjoy Benny Hill for its pure slapstick, the humour was much cruder than that of AYBS. Well, not to belabor the point *too* much, but Fawlty Towers was absolutely sublime compared to either one of those other two shows. And I have to hand it to your Brits: there has never been *anything* on television to equal "The Prisoner", and I doubt there will be in my lifetime. Shame about the remake! Ron |
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On Sat, 18 Sep 2010 11:23:31 +0100, Ron
wrote: On 18/09/2010 03:46, David Nebenzahl wrote: On 9/17/2010 6:42 PM Arfa Daily spake thus: "David Nebenzahl" wrote in message .com... Ackshooly, I've been saying for years that there are two types of Americans distinguishable by their taste for Brit humor. One one side we have the PBS-type humor, exemplified by "Are You Being Served?" (which I despise); on the other are those who like Benny Hill. I'm in the latter camp myself. (Hey, what's better than total slapstick? Worked for Chaplin ...) You really shouldn't dis 'Are You Being Served ?' It was an absolute classic up there with the likes of Fawlty Towers ... The double entendre with things like Mrs Slocombe's pussy, were really quite risque for British TV at the time. Although I used to really enjoy Benny Hill for its pure slapstick, the humour was much cruder than that of AYBS. Well, not to belabor the point *too* much, but Fawlty Towers was absolutely sublime compared to either one of those other two shows. And I have to hand it to your Brits: there has never been *anything* on television to equal "The Prisoner", and I doubt there will be in my lifetime. Shame about the remake! That remark can be applied pretty much universally. d |
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"Ron" wrote in message ... On 18/09/2010 03:46, David Nebenzahl wrote: On 9/17/2010 6:42 PM Arfa Daily spake thus: "David Nebenzahl" wrote in message .com... Ackshooly, I've been saying for years that there are two types of Americans distinguishable by their taste for Brit humor. One one side we have the PBS-type humor, exemplified by "Are You Being Served?" (which I despise); on the other are those who like Benny Hill. I'm in the latter camp myself. (Hey, what's better than total slapstick? Worked for Chaplin ...) You really shouldn't dis 'Are You Being Served ?' It was an absolute classic up there with the likes of Fawlty Towers ... The double entendre with things like Mrs Slocombe's pussy, were really quite risque for British TV at the time. Although I used to really enjoy Benny Hill for its pure slapstick, the humour was much cruder than that of AYBS. Well, not to belabor the point *too* much, but Fawlty Towers was absolutely sublime compared to either one of those other two shows. And I have to hand it to your Brits: there has never been *anything* on television to equal "The Prisoner", and I doubt there will be in my lifetime. Shame about the remake! Ron Yes. That bordered on the criminal. I survived I think one and a half episodes, before deleting it from my planner ... Arfa |
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"Klaatu" wrote in message ... "David Nebenzahl" wrote in message .com... On 9/16/2010 6:03 PM Arfa Daily spake thus: "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message And you still don't get American humor. ;-) Wot ! You mean there is such a thing ... ? d:-} Nah, all our humor comes from the UK: Monty Python, Dame Edna, Eddy Izzard, Tracy Ullman, etc. Ackshooly, I've been saying for years that there are two types of Americans distinguishable by their taste for Brit humor. One one side we have the PBS-type humor, exemplified by "Are You Being Served?" (which I despise); on the other are those who like Benny Hill. I'm in the latter camp myself. (Hey, what's better than total slapstick? Worked for Chaplin ...) -- The fashion in killing has an insouciant, flirty style this spring, with the flaunting of well-defined muscle, wrapped in flags. - Comment from an article on Antiwar.com (http://antiwar.com) And where do those who like "Absolutely Fabulous" fit in? Ab Fab was a very 'special' kind of humour that would only ever have worked with those four main characters, who sparked off each other in a unique way. I think that this is often the case for why remakes, as well as covers of classic songs, often don't work. The original story or song, is written with an actor or set of actors or singer in mind, and because of this, work well, and become classics. Often, you can hear a song or see a film for the first time, and just know that it will still be playing in 30 years time. There are of course exceptions to this, but they are so few as to admirably prove the rule. Arfa |
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"David Nebenzahl" wrote in message .com... On 9/17/2010 6:42 PM Arfa Daily spake thus: "David Nebenzahl" wrote in message .com... Ackshooly, I've been saying for years that there are two types of Americans distinguishable by their taste for Brit humor. One one side we have the PBS-type humor, exemplified by "Are You Being Served?" (which I despise); on the other are those who like Benny Hill. I'm in the latter camp myself. (Hey, what's better than total slapstick? Worked for Chaplin ...) You really shouldn't dis 'Are You Being Served ?' It was an absolute classic up there with the likes of Fawlty Towers ... The double entendre with things like Mrs Slocombe's pussy, were really quite risque for British TV at the time. Although I used to really enjoy Benny Hill for its pure slapstick, the humour was much cruder than that of AYBS. Well, not to belabor the point *too* much, but Fawlty Towers was absolutely sublime compared to either one of those other two shows. And I have to hand it to your Brits: there has never been *anything* on television to equal "The Prisoner", and I doubt there will be in my lifetime. -- Again, the actual humour in Fawlty Towers was not that 'classic'. It worked so well because it was written by Cleese himself, in conjunction with Connie Booth, with whom I understand he was having a relationship. The 'supporting' actors were chosen carefully to 'fit in', and did so admirably well. Much of the individual episodes were also ad-lib'd at the time of shooting, and according to a documentary I saw about the making of it, most scenes were little - if any at all - rehearsed. Cleese said that the episodes were basically written on a week by week basis, and took on average no more than 10 minutes to conceive and structure, and produce the scripted dialogue for. So what was actually produced, is a testament to the writing, acting, and creativity skills of the main characters. Interestingly, there was only ever 12 episodes. Everyone always thinks that there was a lot more. Prunella Scales was actually amused by it all. She said that over a very long career, she has played many many parts in TV, film and theatre, including some really 'heavyweight' parts. And yet the one thing that she is always remembered for, is her part as the long suffering wife of Basil ... Arfa |
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