I have been a CoolEdit owner since the first versions of the stereoapp and
the multitrack app. I made sure I upgraded to audtion to stay current. But
the few times I have tried to run the system in sync with a deck or use it
with an AVI for film work it has fallen miserably far from the mark. I can't
recall the myriad of problems now.. but it was pretty much unusable. I use
Nuendo here for most everything but I like Audition's interface and wanted
to have it availble for some things.. like noise removal.. or having someone
working on fx scenes while the Nuendo rigs are tied up.

Same for everyone?

Recently, Jona Vark posted:

I have been a CoolEdit owner since the first versions of the
stereoapp and the multitrack app. I made sure I upgraded to audtion
to stay current. But the few times I have tried to run the system in
sync with a deck or use it with an AVI for film work it has fallen
miserably far from the mark. I can't recall the myriad of problems
now.. but it was pretty much unusable. I use Nuendo here for most
everything but I like Audition's interface and wanted to have it
availble for some things.. like noise removal.. or having someone
working on fx scenes while the Nuendo rigs are tied up.

Same for everyone?

Nope. My CEP/Audition system is synced via an RME HDSP9652 to an AW4416
where I do most of my tracking. I have no problems with it following the
time code in either direction. The keys are the quality of sync
capabilities of the sound card and the speed of the computer.

Neil

"Neil Gould" wrote in message
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Recently, Jona Vark posted:

I have been a CoolEdit owner since the first versions of the
stereoapp and the multitrack app. I made sure I upgraded to audtion
to stay current. But the few times I have tried to run the system in
sync with a deck or use it with an AVI for film work it has fallen
miserably far from the mark. I can't recall the myriad of problems
now.. but it was pretty much unusable. I use Nuendo here for most
everything but I like Audition's interface and wanted to have it
availble for some things.. like noise removal.. or having someone
working on fx scenes while the Nuendo rigs are tied up.

Same for everyone?

Nope. My CEP/Audition system is synced via an RME HDSP9652 to an AW4416
where I do most of my tracking. I have no problems with it following the
time code in either direction. The keys are the quality of sync
capabilities of the sound card and the speed of the computer.

Neil

I was referring to TC / Deck control and syncing to AVIs for post work.

Jona Vark wrote:
"Neil Gould" wrote in message
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Recently, Jona Vark posted:


I have been a CoolEdit owner since the first versions of the
stereoapp and the multitrack app. I made sure I upgraded to audtion
to stay current. But the few times I have tried to run the system in
sync with a deck or use it with an AVI for film work it has fallen
miserably far from the mark. I can't recall the myriad of problems
now.. but it was pretty much unusable. I use Nuendo here for most
everything but I like Audition's interface and wanted to have it
availble for some things.. like noise removal.. or having someone
working on fx scenes while the Nuendo rigs are tied up.

Same for everyone?


Nope. My CEP/Audition system is synced via an RME HDSP9652 to an AW4416
where I do most of my tracking. I have no problems with it following the
time code in either direction. The keys are the quality of sync
capabilities of the sound card and the speed of the computer.

Neil


I was referring to TC / Deck control and syncing to AVIs for post work.

Might want to check the Adobe forums and Video suite (which is one
reason adobe bought CE in the first place).

Dean

Recently, Jona Vark posted:

"Neil Gould" wrote in message
Recently, Jona Vark posted:

[...] But the few times I have tried to run the system in
sync with a deck or use it with an AVI for film work it has fallen
miserably far from the mark. [...]

Same for everyone?

Nope. My CEP/Audition system is synced via an RME HDSP9652 to an
AW4416 where I do most of my tracking. I have no problems with it
following the time code in either direction. The keys are the
quality of sync capabilities of the sound card and the speed of the
computer.


I was referring to TC / Deck control and syncing to AVIs for post
work.

It shouldn't matter. TC is TC, and if the signal and TC interface is good,
CEP/Audition will chase it just fine. IOW, I haven't had a problem with
this even as long as a decade ago syncing to video decks via extenal TC
gear. Syncing AVIs should be even more reliable than that.

Neil

Recently, Jona Vark posted:

I was referring to TC / Deck control and syncing to AVIs for post
work.

Hmmm... take two: ;-)

So, your problem is strictly internal? Perhaps your disc is fragmented or
the cpu just can't keep up with the extent of live edits.

Neil

On Thu, 27 Oct 2005 23:52:19 GMT, Jona Vark wrote:



I was referring to TC / Deck control and syncing to AVIs for post work.

Are you importing the AVI into Audition? That works fine for me.

Cheers

James.

"Neil Gould" wrote in message
...
Recently, Jona Vark posted:

I was referring to TC / Deck control and syncing to AVIs for post
work.

Hmmm... take two: ;-)

So, your problem is strictly internal? Perhaps your disc is fragmented or
the cpu just can't keep up with the extent of live edits.

Neil






Oh.. I am not trying to trouble shoot it anymore.. it's just the way it is..
on any PC..
I also had a lot of trouble trying to use AVIs for different parts of a
scene..
Seems the TC offset feature was disfuctional. Still is, here anyway..

Audition was just simply not ready for prime time yet.

"Neil Gould" wrote in message
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Recently, Jona Vark posted:

"Neil Gould" wrote in message
Recently, Jona Vark posted:

[...] But the few times I have tried to run the system in
sync with a deck or use it with an AVI for film work it has fallen
miserably far from the mark. [...]

Same for everyone?

Nope. My CEP/Audition system is synced via an RME HDSP9652 to an
AW4416 where I do most of my tracking. I have no problems with it
following the time code in either direction. The keys are the
quality of sync capabilities of the sound card and the speed of the
computer.


I was referring to TC / Deck control and syncing to AVIs for post
work.

It shouldn't matter. TC is TC, and if the signal and TC interface is good,
CEP/Audition will chase it just fine. IOW, I haven't had a problem with
this even as long as a decade ago syncing to video decks via extenal TC
gear. Syncing AVIs should be even more reliable than that.


Well.. not really true.. there is certainly a difference when getting it
over a serial port as opposed to TC / MIDI TC hardware with a sync
interface. Nonetheless.. syncing decks and systems is not hard.. been doing
it since the 70's with all kinds of gear so numerous it's like a blur. From
Servo sync to TC etc.. So it is easy to evaluate a particular software's
capabilities failry quickly.
I have Nuendo running on all of the same PCs that Audition is installed on.
No deck control problems and I can place AVI start times anywhere with
repeatable, dependable results.

I am pretty sure that these tests were also done with the current builds of
Audition.

Don't get me wrong.. I am not down on the app.. for what it costs, compared
to Nuendo's price tag, it is fine. I did have hopes of expanding a couple of
systems for less demanding work using Audition but I may have to wait..

I did address this problem at the time with Adobe, thoroughly.. they
admitted it was a problem and , as usual, said that fixes might be coming..





Neil