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MB Quart question - adjustable?
I just had a set of MB Quart Discus series components installed in my new
Mazda 6 sedan last week. I have read that Quarts have a reputation for exceeding brightness in their sound output. That's my problem. The clarity is outstanding but the overall sound is way too bright even with the treble completely cut out. just unsatisfying no matter what I do. Are there any adjustments that can be made to the components to get a more natural sound? It's driving me nuts! I do have them still running off the stock head unit's amp, not an external amp. My next thought is to buy an amp to run the speakers, but would that cut down on the brightness? any advice would be much appreciated. JJM |
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MB Quart question - adjustable?
I just had a set of MB Quart Discus series components installed in my new
Mazda 6 sedan last week. I have read that Quarts have a reputation for exceeding brightness in their sound output. That's my problem. The clarity is outstanding but the overall sound is way too bright even with the treble completely cut out. just unsatisfying no matter what I do. You didn't listen before you bought? Are there any adjustments that can be made to the components to get a more natural sound? It's driving me nuts! I do have them still running off the stock head unit's amp, not an external amp. My next thought is to buy an amp to run the speakers, but would that cut down on the brightness? Not significantly. Try the typical off-axis mounting and covering the tweeter with foam or something. At this point, you may instead want to get different speakers rather than go out of your way compensating for these. |
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MB Quart question - adjustable?
Yeah I listened in a closed room before I bought, but they didn't sound anything like what I have now. I even tested them with a couple of my CDs. I'm going to get in touch with the shop that sold me on them and complain mightily. JJM In article , "Mark Zarella" wrote: I just had a set of MB Quart Discus series components installed in my new Mazda 6 sedan last week. I have read that Quarts have a reputation for exceeding brightness in their sound output. That's my problem. The clarity is outstanding but the overall sound is way too bright even with the treble completely cut out. just unsatisfying no matter what I do. You didn't listen before you bought? Are there any adjustments that can be made to the components to get a more natural sound? It's driving me nuts! I do have them still running off the stock head unit's amp, not an external amp. My next thought is to buy an amp to run the speakers, but would that cut down on the brightness? Not significantly. Try the typical off-axis mounting and covering the tweeter with foam or something. At this point, you may instead want to get different speakers rather than go out of your way compensating for these. |
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MB Quart question - adjustable?
So I'm supposed to shell out another $300 + labor for new speakers? what
would I do with the Quarts then? I suppose the shop would laugh at me if I asked. : ) JJM In article , "Mark Zarella" wrote: I just had a set of MB Quart Discus series components installed in my new Mazda 6 sedan last week. I have read that Quarts have a reputation for exceeding brightness in their sound output. That's my problem. The clarity is outstanding but the overall sound is way too bright even with the treble completely cut out. just unsatisfying no matter what I do. You didn't listen before you bought? Are there any adjustments that can be made to the components to get a more natural sound? It's driving me nuts! I do have them still running off the stock head unit's amp, not an external amp. My next thought is to buy an amp to run the speakers, but would that cut down on the brightness? Not significantly. Try the typical off-axis mounting and covering the tweeter with foam or something. At this point, you may instead want to get different speakers rather than go out of your way compensating for these. |
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MB Quart question - adjustable?
I've had MB Quarts before. I didn't like them for the same reason. They
sounded great at very low volume but really hurt my ears after awhile. Very tiring. Maybe the shop will refund them for another brand if you just had them installed? One of the things I've noticed before is that certain components add their own "distinctness" to the music. They shouldn't, but they do. What kind of amp & HU are you using? For example...I've found Alpine amps to be very bright as well. Thus, I wouldn't want to pair them with MBQs. Certain HUs are the same way. From what you're saying, unless you plan on doing some major system re-evalutation you probably will never be totally happy with the MBQs. Try what Mark suggested and go from there. Tony -- What's more likely? That an all-powerful mysterious god created the universe and then decided not to give any proof of his existence? Or, that he simply doesn't exist at all? And that we created him so that we wouldn't have to feel so small and alone. -Eleanor Arroway, Contact "John Matlock" wrote in message . com... So I'm supposed to shell out another $300 + labor for new speakers? what would I do with the Quarts then? I suppose the shop would laugh at me if I asked. : ) JJM In article , "Mark Zarella" wrote: I just had a set of MB Quart Discus series components installed in my new Mazda 6 sedan last week. I have read that Quarts have a reputation for exceeding brightness in their sound output. That's my problem. The clarity is outstanding but the overall sound is way too bright even with the treble completely cut out. just unsatisfying no matter what I do. You didn't listen before you bought? Are there any adjustments that can be made to the components to get a more natural sound? It's driving me nuts! I do have them still running off the stock head unit's amp, not an external amp. My next thought is to buy an amp to run the speakers, but would that cut down on the brightness? Not significantly. Try the typical off-axis mounting and covering the tweeter with foam or something. At this point, you may instead want to get different speakers rather than go out of your way compensating for these. |
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MB Quart question - adjustable?
Yeah, I know my local shop will exchange speakers you just got if you
ended up not liking them and want something else. Usually as long as you didn't destroy them putting them in or taking them out. Brandonb Tony Fernandes wrote: I've had MB Quarts before. I didn't like them for the same reason. They sounded great at very low volume but really hurt my ears after awhile. Very tiring. Maybe the shop will refund them for another brand if you just had them installed? One of the things I've noticed before is that certain components add their own "distinctness" to the music. They shouldn't, but they do. What kind of amp & HU are you using? For example...I've found Alpine amps to be very bright as well. Thus, I wouldn't want to pair them with MBQs. Certain HUs are the same way. From what you're saying, unless you plan on doing some major system re-evalutation you probably will never be totally happy with the MBQs. Try what Mark suggested and go from there. Tony -- What's more likely? That an all-powerful mysterious god created the universe and then decided not to give any proof of his existence? Or, that he simply doesn't exist at all? And that we created him so that we wouldn't have to feel so small and alone. -Eleanor Arroway, Contact "John Matlock" wrote in message . com... So I'm supposed to shell out another $300 + labor for new speakers? what would I do with the Quarts then? I suppose the shop would laugh at me if I asked. : ) JJM In article , "Mark Zarella" wrote: I just had a set of MB Quart Discus series components installed in my new Mazda 6 sedan last week. I have read that Quarts have a reputation for exceeding brightness in their sound output. That's my problem. The clarity is outstanding but the overall sound is way too bright even with the treble completely cut out. just unsatisfying no matter what I do. You didn't listen before you bought? Are there any adjustments that can be made to the components to get a more natural sound? It's driving me nuts! I do have them still running off the stock head unit's amp, not an external amp. My next thought is to buy an amp to run the speakers, but would that cut down on the brightness? Not significantly. Try the typical off-axis mounting and covering the tweeter with foam or something. At this point, you may instead want to get different speakers rather than go out of your way compensating for these. |
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MB Quart question - adjustable?
I've had them in for just over a week now. I'm driving them off the amp on
the HU. I have an Alpine 2-channel amp running an MBQ sub, which by the way sounds fine. I'm not optmistic that the shop will refund. JJM In article , "Tony Fernandes" wrote: I've had MB Quarts before. I didn't like them for the same reason. They sounded great at very low volume but really hurt my ears after awhile. Very tiring. Maybe the shop will refund them for another brand if you just had them installed? One of the things I've noticed before is that certain components add their own "distinctness" to the music. They shouldn't, but they do. What kind of amp & HU are you using? For example...I've found Alpine amps to be very bright as well. Thus, I wouldn't want to pair them with MBQs. Certain HUs are the same way. From what you're saying, unless you plan on doing some major system re-evalutation you probably will never be totally happy with the MBQs. Try what Mark suggested and go from there. Tony |
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MB Quart question - adjustable?
I'm not really optimistic that the shop will exchange. They did the install
at their place. JJM In article , Brandon Buckner wrote: Yeah, I know my local shop will exchange speakers you just got if you ended up not liking them and want something else. Usually as long as you didn't destroy them putting them in or taking them out. Brandonb Tony Fernandes wrote: I've had MB Quarts before. I didn't like them for the same reason. They sounded great at very low volume but really hurt my ears after awhile. Very tiring. Maybe the shop will refund them for another brand if you just had them installed? One of the things I've noticed before is that certain components add their own "distinctness" to the music. They shouldn't, but they do. What kind of amp & HU are you using? For example...I've found Alpine amps to be very bright as well. Thus, I wouldn't want to pair them with MBQs. Certain HUs are the same way. From what you're saying, unless you plan on doing some major system re-evalutation you probably will never be totally happy with the MBQs. Try what Mark suggested and go from there. Tony -- What's more likely? That an all-powerful mysterious god created the universe and then decided not to give any proof of his existence? Or, that he simply doesn't exist at all? And that we created him so that we wouldn't have to feel so small and alone. -Eleanor Arroway, Contact "John Matlock" wrote in message . com... So I'm supposed to shell out another $300 + labor for new speakers? what would I do with the Quarts then? I suppose the shop would laugh at me if I asked. : ) JJM In article , "Mark Zarella" wrote: I just had a set of MB Quart Discus series components installed in my new Mazda 6 sedan last week. I have read that Quarts have a reputation for exceeding brightness in their sound output. That's my problem. The clarity is outstanding but the overall sound is way too bright even with the treble completely cut out. just unsatisfying no matter what I do. You didn't listen before you bought? Are there any adjustments that can be made to the components to get a more natural sound? It's driving me nuts! I do have them still running off the stock head unit's amp, not an external amp. My next thought is to buy an amp to run the speakers, but would that cut down on the brightness? Not significantly. Try the typical off-axis mounting and covering the tweeter with foam or something. At this point, you may instead want to get different speakers rather than go out of your way compensating for these. |
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MB Quart question - adjustable?
-- "Tony Fernandes" wrote in message ... I've had MB Quarts before. I didn't like them for the same reason. They sounded great at very low volume but really hurt my ears after awhile. Very tiring. Maybe the shop will refund them for another brand if you just had them installed? One of the things I've noticed before is that certain components add their own "distinctness" to the music. They shouldn't, but they do. What kind of amp & HU are you using? For example...I've found Alpine amps to be very bright as well. Thus, I wouldn't want to pair them with MBQs. Certain HUs are the same way. From what you're saying, unless you plan on doing some major system re-evalutation you probably will never be totally happy with the MBQs. Try what Mark suggested and go from there. The amp and HU are certainly not at fault. It's the speaker and/or the installation. |
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MB Quart question - adjustable?
So I'm supposed to shell out another $300 + labor for new speakers? what
would I do with the Quarts then? I suppose the shop would laugh at me if I asked. You could play with the installation some. As I mentioned, sometimes a piece of foam over the tweeter can help, but IME usually not. It's sort of a way of mimicking off-axis response, which oftentimes isn't the culprit anyway. I think it's a matter of learning from your mistakes. I've bought plenty of speakers in the past that I've gone and sold a couple months later. That's why I almost ALWAYS buy used to begin with. There's no loss in trying them out because I can always sell them for what I pay for them. There's no spec sheet or reviews that mean anything when it comes to purchasing speakers. Hopefully the shop will help you out. If they don't, plan on shopping elsewhere. Absolutely do not buy a second set of speakers off them if they won't help you out. If they do, they're probably worth dealing with again in the future. |
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Every reputable shop would rather refund you for the set and sell you
something else that you like and have a happy customer than have a ****ed off customer complaining to everyone they know. BTW, it sounds to me more like a phase problem. I have heard Quarts, and yes, they are bright, but I've never seen a good install with them that sounded bad. Bright, but not ear bleeding. Also, live, unamplified music is bright anyway. Paul Vina "John Matlock" wrote in message . com... I've had them in for just over a week now. I'm driving them off the amp on the HU. I have an Alpine 2-channel amp running an MBQ sub, which by the way sounds fine. I'm not optmistic that the shop will refund. JJM In article , "Tony Fernandes" wrote: I've had MB Quarts before. I didn't like them for the same reason. They sounded great at very low volume but really hurt my ears after awhile. Very tiring. Maybe the shop will refund them for another brand if you just had them installed? One of the things I've noticed before is that certain components add their own "distinctness" to the music. They shouldn't, but they do. What kind of amp & HU are you using? For example...I've found Alpine amps to be very bright as well. Thus, I wouldn't want to pair them with MBQs. Certain HUs are the same way. From what you're saying, unless you plan on doing some major system re-evalutation you probably will never be totally happy with the MBQs. Try what Mark suggested and go from there. Tony |
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MB Quart question - adjustable?
Your crossover should have a tweeter attenuation circuit with
connections for 0, -3, and -6dB. Try -3 or -6 if you find them too bright. In article (John Matlock) wrote: I just had a set of MB Quart Discus series components installed in my new Mazda 6 sedan last week. I have read that Quarts have a reputation for exceeding brightness in their sound output. That's my problem. The clarity is outstanding but the overall sound is way too bright even with the treble completely cut out. just unsatisfying no matter what I do. Are there any adjustments that can be made to the components to get a more natural sound? It's driving me nuts! I do have them still running off the stock head unit's amp, not an external amp. My next thought is to buy an amp to run the speakers, but would that cut down on the brightness? any advice would be much appreciated. JJM |
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MB Quart question - adjustable?
MBQ tech support says that my model, the DSC-213 components, don't have an
attenuation adjuster on the crossover. The 2003 DSE model components do. I haven't verified this and I hope they're wrong. JJM In article , Nomen Nescio wrote: Your crossover should have a tweeter attenuation circuit with connections for 0, -3, and -6dB. Try -3 or -6 if you find them too bright. In article (John Matlock) wrote: I just had a set of MB Quart Discus series components installed in my new Mazda 6 sedan last week. I have read that Quarts have a reputation for exceeding brightness in their sound output. That's my problem. The clarity is outstanding but the overall sound is way too bright even with the treble completely cut out. just unsatisfying no matter what I do. Are there any adjustments that can be made to the components to get a more natural sound? It's driving me nuts! I do have them still running off the stock head unit's amp, not an external amp. My next thought is to buy an amp to run the speakers, but would that cut down on the brightness? any advice would be much appreciated. JJM |
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