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Best equipment for stealth recording for voice (not music)
This may be slightly off topic for this newsgroup, and if so I apologize and ask if any of you can direct me to a more appropriate newsgroup. I usually wear a wire when I go to business meetings and such, because I have a poor short-term memory, poor hearing, and arthritis which makes it hard to write fast. I then take my meeting recording home, listen to it with headphones while making notes, and then erase the recording. I long ago gave up on asking people for permission to record, because even when they give it, which isn't always, they do so only reluctantly, and it makes them nervous and detracts from the spontaneity and benefit of the meeting. Instead, I follow the "easier to ask forgiveness than permission" route. (Yes, I realize this is illegal in some jurisdictions... I'll jump off of that bridge when I come to it.) I use an Olympus digital voice recorder... not the most expensive one on the market but several steps above the cheap brands. Usually I just stick it in my shirt pocket and use the built-in microphone, but when I wear a coat and tie I often put it in the inside pocket of the coat and use a Radio Shack tie-clip microphone. Usually, the audio quality is marginal at best, and often large blocks of audio are indecipherable. I'm looking for the BEST stealth microphone I can find, that is optimized for voice and not music, that I can wear unobtrusively. A wireless pen microphone, and wireless receiver that connects to the recorder, would be best, but a wired solution is OK too. Any suggestions? |
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On 3 Apr 2007 09:31:22 -0700, "mika riotix"
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"R. L. Drake" wrote ...
I'm looking for the BEST stealth microphone I can find, that is optimized for voice and not music, that I can wear unobtrusively. A wireless pen microphone, and wireless receiver that connects to the recorder, would be best, but a wired solution is OK too. There are microphones made for inconspicuous (and even invisible) use by the people who do sound for film & TV. They hang out at news:rec.artst.movies.production.sound Many are the size of a pencil eraser and even smaller. One is made as a button with a pin that goes through the clothing to the wire on the back. They also have developed many methods of attaching the mics and routing the wire so that movement, etc. doesn't cause noises to be picked up by the mic. Be warned that many (most?) of those mics are in the $300-500 range. Experiment with your RS microphone at home, putting it in different locations, etc. Maybe making some alternative clip to use in a different manner than lapel or tie-clip. Don't mess with wireless since you have the recorder in your pocket. There are also eyeglasses that have microphones in the frame, etc. |
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R. L. Drake wrote:
I usually wear a wire when I go to business meetings and such, because I have a poor short-term memory, poor hearing, and arthritis which makes it hard to write fast. I then take my meeting recording home, listen to it with headphones while making notes, and then erase the recording. I long ago gave up on asking people for permission to record, because even when they give it, which isn't always, they do so only reluctantly, and it makes them nervous and detracts from the spontaneity and benefit of the meeting. Instead, I follow the "easier to ask forgiveness than permission" route. (Yes, I realize this is illegal in some jurisdictions... I'll jump off of that bridge when I come to it.) You're a real charmer. |
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On Apr 3, 12:12 pm, "R. L. Drake" wrote:
Usually, the audio quality is marginal at best, and often large blocks of audio are indecipherable. I'm looking for the BEST stealth microphone I can find, that is optimized for voice and not music, that I can wear unobtrusively. Ignoring the anti-social implications, the problem with hiding a microphone under your jacket or in your pocket isn't the microphone, it's the barrier you've created between the source and the microphone. Any mic will sound muffled under those circumstances. Do you take a laptop computer to these meetings? Maybe you could record to that, using the built-in microphone. It won't sound great because it will be on the other side of the screen from most of the talkers, but those are usually pretty much omnidirectional and at least there won't be a sock over it. Try it at home. You can pretend you're taking notes, but don't make too much key noise. The other approach is simply to take the bull by the horms, set a microphone up in the middle of the table and say that you need to record the meeting because you're physically unable to take notes. Anyone who objects to being recorded probably would rather you forgot what they said anyway. |
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You're asking us for advice on how to do something illegal. You're right,
this is the wrong group for that. Peace, Paul |
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"R. L. Drake" wrote in message
news This may be slightly off topic for this newsgroup, and if so I apologize and ask if any of you can direct me to a more appropriate newsgroup. I usually wear a wire when I go to business meetings and such, because I have a poor short-term memory, poor hearing, and arthritis which makes it hard to write fast. I then take my meeting recording home, listen to it with headphones while making notes, and then erase the recording. I long ago gave up on asking people for permission to record, because even when they give it, which isn't always, they do so only reluctantly, and it makes them nervous and detracts from the spontaneity and benefit of the meeting. Instead, I follow the "easier to ask forgiveness than permission" route. (Yes, I realize this is illegal in some jurisdictions... I'll jump off of that bridge when I come to it.) I use an Olympus digital voice recorder... not the most expensive one on the market but several steps above the cheap brands. Usually I just stick it in my shirt pocket and use the built-in microphone, but when I wear a coat and tie I often put it in the inside pocket of the coat and use a Radio Shack tie-clip microphone. Usually, the audio quality is marginal at best, and often large blocks of audio are indecipherable. I'm looking for the BEST stealth microphone I can find, that is optimized for voice and not music, that I can wear unobtrusively. A wireless pen microphone, and wireless receiver that connects to the recorder, would be best, but a wired solution is OK too. Any suggestions? I don't know if making such a recording is illegal. I'm not an attorney. However, if it is legal... or if that does not worry you... you might consider using the external microphone as you now do, except put the microphone in the breast pocket of your suit coat. Make a small hole in the breast pocket fabric and the inner pocket fabric. Run the mic wire through those to the recorder. Mount the microphone using a narrow strip of gaffers tape (cloth backed tape) so the the mic barely peeks out at the top of the breast pocket. You will get very little clothing noise with this placement and have a very good chance of getting usable recordings. The Pin Mic that another poster suggested would be a great but expensive solution. That mic runs a little over $250 plus a power supply is needed, about the size of a cigar, which is another thing to hide and costs another $100 to $200. Good luck, Steve King |
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"Don Pearce" wrote
snip There is nothing at that link I suspect that what we are seeing is a broken bot .... created to spam HTML based forums. /Preben Friis |
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On 2007-04-03, Steve King wrote:
"R. L. Drake" wrote: I'm looking for the BEST stealth microphone I can find, that is optimized for voice and not music, that I can wear unobtrusively. A wireless pen microphone, and wireless receiver that connects to the recorder, would be best, but a wired solution is OK too. Any suggestions? I don't know if making such a recording is illegal. I do. In my state, Indiana, it is not illegal. I think it is illegal in CA, CT, FL, IL, MA, MD, MI, MT, NH, NV, PA, and WA. If you want some more detailed info: http://www.rcfp.org/taping/ -- Mike There comes a time when you should stop expecting other people to make a big deal about your birthday. That time is age 12. -- Dave Barry |
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On Tue, 03 Apr 2007 14:10:11 -0400, Soundhaspriority wrote:
I suggest an assistive listening device: http://www.walgreens.com/store/produ...ec=frgl_502877 You may think you have poor short-term memory, but it may simply be the burden of straining to hear. Thanks. Sorry to say it really is bad short-term memory. I was injured in an auto accident in 1981 and my short-term memory has been somewhat impaired ever since. |
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On Tue, 03 Apr 2007 10:06:24 -0700, Mike Rivers wrote:
The other approach is simply to take the bull by the horms, set a microphone up in the middle of the table and say that you need to record the meeting because you're physically unable to take notes. Anyone who objects to being recorded probably would rather you forgot what they said anyway. Yeah, I have tried that many times, mostly people might say "uh ... well .... yeah ... I guess so ..." and then the rest of the meeting goes like their mother or the Mother Superior from their Catholic high school is listening in. |
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On Tue, 03 Apr 2007 09:35:08 -0700, Richard Crowley wrote:
There are microphones made for inconspicuous (and even invisible) use by the people who do sound for film & TV. They hang out at news:rec.artst.movies.production.sound Many are the size of a pencil eraser and even smaller. One is made as a button with a pin that goes through the clothing to the wire on the back. They also have developed many methods of attaching the mics and routing the wire so that movement, etc. doesn't cause noises to be picked up by the mic. Be warned that many (most?) of those mics are in the $300-500 range. Thanks, Richard. I will check on rec.arts.movies.production.sound. Meanwhile, do you have any contact information (websites, etc.) for the "button with a pin" type? That sounds fairly near ideal. |
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On Tue, 03 Apr 2007 12:37:07 -0400, DC wrote:
You're a real charmer. Hi, DC. Well, I try to be. I guess I'm unclear on the implication. I use technology to try to help myself compensate for and overcome my own shortcomings without inconveniencing others. That's kind of part of what technology is for, to a large degree, isn't it? |
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R. L. Drake wrote:
Thanks. Sorry to say it really is bad short-term memory. I was injured in an auto accident in 1981 and my short-term memory has been somewhat impaired ever since. Sounds like it may have been a bong incident. |
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"R. L. Drake" wrote ...
Richard Crowley wrote: There are microphones made for inconspicuous (and even invisible) use by the people who do sound for film & TV. They hang out at news:rec.artst.movies.production.sound Many are the size of a pencil eraser and even smaller. One is made as a button with a pin that goes through the clothing to the wire on the back. They also have developed many methods of attaching the mics and routing the wire so that movement, etc. doesn't cause noises to be picked up by the mic. Be warned that many (most?) of those mics are in the $300-500 range. Thanks, Richard. I will check on rec.arts.movies.production.sound. Meanwhile, do you have any contact information (websites, etc.) for the "button with a pin" type? That sounds fairly near ideal. A Google search for: pin microphone revealed several hits including these... http://www.equipmentemporium.com/Pro...nts/pinmic.htm http://www.gothamsound.com/main.shtm...tem=SPINMITS1B |
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R. L. Drake wrote:
You're a real charmer. Hi, DC. Well, I try to be. I guess I'm unclear on the implication. I use technology to try to help myself compensate for and overcome my own shortcomings without inconveniencing others. That's kind of part of what technology is for, to a large degree, isn't it? Yes. Yes it is. |
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"R. L. Drake" wrote ...
Mike Rivers wrote: The other approach is simply to take the bull by the horms, set a microphone up in the middle of the table and say that you need to record the meeting because you're physically unable to take notes. Anyone who objects to being recorded probably would rather you forgot what they said anyway. Yeah, I have tried that many times, mostly people might say "uh ... well ... yeah ... I guess so ..." and then the rest of the meeting goes like their mother or the Mother Superior from their Catholic high school is listening in. That's not necessarily a *bad* thing in many cases! :-) |
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