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Hi there,
in case someone is interested: http://www.borislau.de/base/a.mp3 http://www.borislau.de/base/b.mp3 (or use .wav if you like) One is Neumann KM184, one is Beyerdynamic MC930. Recorded in my cube room... Best, Boris -- http://www.borislau.de - computer science, music, photos |
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I'm guessing the "a" is the 184. It has greater clarity and presence
on my crappy computer speakers. I'm not online in my studio so I'm listening at home. On Wed, 05 Dec 2007 00:33:54 +0100, Boris Lau wrote: Hi there, in case someone is interested: http://www.borislau.de/base/a.mp3 http://www.borislau.de/base/b.mp3 (or use .wav if you like) One is Neumann KM184, one is Beyerdynamic MC930. Recorded in my cube room... Best, Boris |
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On Dec 4, 6:33 pm, Boris Lau wrote:
Hi there, in case someone is interested: http://www.borislau.de/base/a.mp3htt....de/base/b.mp3 (or use .wav if you like) One is Neumann KM184, one is Beyerdynamic MC930. Recorded in my cube room... Best, Boris --http://www.borislau.de- computer science, music, photos Don't know anything about the mics, but I lke sample a better. Sounds more natural. Nice playing. Jeff |
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Soundhaspriority wrote:
So sorry! The MC930 is a small diaphragm. indeed it is. And which one do you think sounds better? ;-) Boris -- http://www.borislau.de - computer science, music, photos |
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Thanks for your reply, I have another direct comparison recorded at a
higher distance, I will listen to that again and think about your input. Note: On my system, the stereo image appears skewed right. Actuall, both files are mono. Or to be more precise, they are stereo, but the channels contain exactly the same data. Best, Boris -- http://www.borislau.de - computer science, music, photos |
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On Dec 5, 1:58 pm, Boris Lau wrote:
Soundhaspriority wrote: So sorry! The MC930 is a small diaphragm. indeed it is. And which one do you think sounds better? ;-) Boris --http://www.borislau.de- computer science, music, photos After listening again hours later, I come to the the same conclusion, that sample A is just more refined, complete, musical, smoother, less edgy than sample B. I feel that sample B has an ever so slightly aggressive or nasal quality to it and lacks completeness or clarity in the lower freguencies. That said, I'm very untrained as a critical listener. I plan to do a lot more of this kind of training. Thanks for the samples. Jeff |
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On Dec 5, 9:05 pm, straightnut wrote:
On Dec 5, 1:58 pm, Boris Lau wrote: Soundhaspriority wrote: So sorry! The MC930 is a small diaphragm. indeed it is. And which one do you think sounds better? ;-) Boris --http://www.borislau.de-computer science, music, photos After listening again hours later, I come to the the same conclusion, that sample A is just more refined, complete, musical, smoother, less edgy than sample B. I feel that sample B has an ever so slightly aggressive or nasal quality to it and lacks completeness or clarity in the lower freguencies. That said, I'm very untrained as a critical listener. I plan to do a lot more of this kind of training. Thanks for the samples. Overposting here, but I listened again and change my mind a bit. This time I tried my new ATH-M50 headphones(I was listening through Sony MDR-F1 open air phones originally) and find that sample A sounds a bit smeared compared to sample B's clarity, but I still feel A is more musical for this piece of music. I assumed my main objection to B was a boosted high end somewhere and decided to look at the response patterns which shows a large peak in the highs of one over the other. But I was surprised to see a dip in the lows of the other which I thought had a stronger bass presence. Maybe I have them backwards. I'm really curious now which is which. I'm listening through my laptop sound card headphone output, so I don't know what effect that has. Jeff |
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What was the audio chain?
F. |
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Federico wrote:
What was the audio chain? F. Mics going directly into Yamaha i88x firewire interface, set to 24bit/44.1kHz. The Preamps in that thing are said to be the ones from the Yamaha DM2000, if that is of any help. Boris |
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Thanks for your responses,
(a) is in fact the cheaper Beyerdynamic, while (b) is the Neumann KM184. I'm still not sure which one I like better though. From this recording, I would prefer (a). But maybe it's good to go for (b) because of the higher presence, and adding a close larger diaphragm mic to get some warmth? Or maybe (b) is better for micing percussions to get some sizzle? Or (a) is better because it just sounds better? I guess I have to try more... Boris Boris Lau wrote: Hi there, in case someone is interested: http://www.borislau.de/base/a.mp3 http://www.borislau.de/base/b.mp3 (or use .wav if you like) One is Neumann KM184, one is Beyerdynamic MC930. Recorded in my cube room... Best, Boris -- http://www.borislau.de - computer science, music, photos |
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On Fri, 7 Dec 2007 03:14:41 -0500, Boris Lau wrote
(in article ): Thanks for your responses, (a) is in fact the cheaper Beyerdynamic, while (b) is the Neumann KM184. I'm still not sure which one I like better though. From this recording, I would prefer (a). But maybe it's good to go for (b) because of the higher presence, and adding a close larger diaphragm mic to get some warmth? Or maybe (b) is better for micing percussions to get some sizzle? Or (a) is better because it just sounds better? I guess I have to try more... Boris Next time try a schoeps cmc64 or cmc641. Regards, Ty Ford --Audio Equipment Reviews Audio Production Services Acting and Voiceover Demos http://www.tyford.com Guitar player?:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RZJ9MptZmU |
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