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LD condensor, better choices?
I'm doing an acoustic guitar/vocal recording in a medium sized room. I'm
looking to buy my first LD mic for the project. I'm planning on using either my Josephson C-42 pair, or my AKG C480 (CK-61) pair to pick up some ambient, but I'm looking for a LD condensor for closer-up. As it stands I'm going to try a Neumann TLM 49, but I was wondering if there's some obviously better choices within the $1000 - $1500 range, given this application. Thanks, Dave |
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"David Grant" wrote in message
... I'm doing an acoustic guitar/vocal recording in a medium sized room. I'm looking to buy my first LD mic for the project. I'm planning on using either my Josephson C-42 pair, or my AKG C480 (CK-61) pair to pick up some ambient, but I'm looking for a LD condensor for closer-up. As it stands I'm going to try a Neumann TLM 49, but I was wondering if there's some obviously better choices within the $1000 - $1500 range, given this application. Microtech Gefell M930. Very different from the TLM 49, and which one will work for you will very much depend on the voice/instrument you're recording. The M930 has the advantage of being much flatter off-axis than the TLM 49, but to my ears they both have magic. Just different kinds. Peace, Paul |
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David Grant wrote: I'm doing an acoustic guitar/vocal recording in a medium sized room. I'm looking to buy my first LD mic for the project. I'm planning on using either my Josephson C-42 pair, or my AKG C480 (CK-61) pair to pick up some ambient, but I'm looking for a LD condensor for closer-up. As it stands I'm going to try a Neumann TLM 49, but I was wondering if there's some obviously better choices within the $1000 - $1500 range, given this application. Sure, try the TLM 49, but if you're trying to do guitar and vocal with one mike, you'll find off-axis response is a big deal. I'd pick the C480 over anything else you're apt to buy for the close-in mike, though I might toss an omni capsule on. --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." |
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On Dec 6, 9:17 am, "David Grant" wrote:
I'm doing an acoustic guitar/vocal recording in a medium sized room. I'm looking to buy my first LD mic for the project. I'm planning on using either my Josephson C-42 pair, or my AKG C480 (CK-61) pair to pick up some ambient, but I'm looking for a LD condensor for closer-up. As it stands I'm going to try a Neumann TLM 49, but I was wondering if there's some obviously better choices within the $1000 - $1500 range, given this application. Thanks, Dave Another mic you might add to the consideration list is a Soundelux U195. bobs Bob Smith BS Studios we organize chaos http://www.bsstudios.com |
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"Scott Dorsey" wrote in message ... In article , David Grant wrote: I'm doing an acoustic guitar/vocal recording in a medium sized room. I'm looking to buy my first LD mic for the project. I'm planning on using either my Josephson C-42 pair, or my AKG C480 (CK-61) pair to pick up some ambient, but I'm looking for a LD condensor for closer-up. As it stands I'm going to try a Neumann TLM 49, but I was wondering if there's some obviously better choices within the $1000 - $1500 range, given this application. Sure, try the TLM 49, but if you're trying to do guitar and vocal with one mike, you'll find off-axis response is a big deal. I'd pick the C480 over anything else you're apt to buy for the close-in mike, though I might toss an omni capsule on. --scott I sort of had a big, warm sound in mind for this recording... which I thought was a good application for a LD. You're suggesting I'd need two up close, one on the vocal, one on the guitar, if I'm using a mic with poorer off-axis? Would I most likely end up with something weird if I used the 480 on guitar and a LD on the vocal? |
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David Grant wrote:
I sort of had a big, warm sound in mind for this recording... which I thought was a good application for a LD. You're suggesting I'd need two up close, one on the vocal, one on the guitar, if I'm using a mic with poorer off-axis? Well, not if you like the way it sounds off-axis for the guitar. But if you are using a microphone whose response on-axis is different than the response off-axis, you may want to think of it as two different microphones in one, with two different sounds. Because you're going to be getting one on the vocal and one on the guitar. Would I most likely end up with something weird if I used the 480 on guitar and a LD on the vocal? If you have to spot them individually, your goal becomes to get the best separation possible between them, so you don't get anything weird. And that turns into using a figure-8. --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." |
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On Dec 6, 2:49 pm, "David Grant" wrote:
I sort of had a big, warm sound in mind for this recording... which I thought was a good application for a LD. Just because a microphone looks big doesn't mean it sounds big (whatever that means) or warm (I sort of know what that means). If it doesn't sound like the source sounds, then there's something wrong. If the singer doesn't have a big and warm voice, a microphone isn't going to make it big and warm. |
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"Mike Rivers" wrote in message ... On Dec 6, 2:49 pm, "David Grant" wrote: I sort of had a big, warm sound in mind for this recording... which I thought was a good application for a LD. Just because a microphone looks big doesn't mean it sounds big (whatever that means) or warm (I sort of know what that means). If it doesn't sound like the source sounds, then there's something wrong. If the singer doesn't have a big and warm voice, a microphone isn't going to make it big and warm. There ought to be a realtionship between the sound of a mic and the size of its diaphragm. What that is exactly, I don't know, due to lack of experience. All I have to go off right now is other people's descriptions of how a LD microphones generally behave versus SD. Hopefully this project will give me some insight into some of the differences. Knowing such differences should help me acheive the sound I'm looking for in the future. |
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David Grant wrote:
There ought to be a realtionship between the sound of a mic and the size of its diaphragm. There isn't really, except in that the larger the diaphragm is, the harder it is to design it to have a clean pattern. What that is exactly, I don't know, due to lack of experience. All I have to go off right now is other people's descriptions of how a LD microphones generally behave versus SD. Hopefully this project will give me some insight into some of the differences. Knowing such differences should help me acheive the sound I'm looking for in the future. You need to stop listening to marketing people and try some microphones. Don't worry about how big the diaphragm is or even what's inside. Worry about how they sound. You'll find there isn't much correlation between the sound and the marketing buzzwords on the box. --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." |
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