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Another tactic to fight the s p @ m
take a look over at comp.dsp...
someone / something is going through all the posts and changing the subject to SPAM for those posts that are ...um...spam.... that mkes it very easy for the rest of us to deal with it... Who / what is doing this and can we do it at rec.audio.pro? Mark |
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Another tactic to fight the s p @ m
take a look over at comp.dsp...
someone / something is going through all the posts and changing the subject to SPAM for those posts that are ...um...spam.... that mkes it very easy for the rest of us to deal with it... Who / what is doing this and can we do it at rec.audio.pro? hmm, I'm getting a reply (on comp.dsp) with the word SPAM in it, which doesn't really help at all as it's not on the spam itself. |
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On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 15:08:23 +0100, "VelociChicken"
wrote: i was thinking that if everyone starting a new thread would put ****** 6 stars or really obvious symbols at the beginning of the subject, it would be really easy to visually scan and delete... or something like that... |
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On Apr 20, 10:08*am, "VelociChicken" wrote:
take a look over at comp.dsp... someone / something is going through all the posts *and changing the subject to SPAM for those posts that are *...um...spam.... that mkes it very easy for the rest of us to deal with it... Who / what is doing this and can we do it at rec.audio.pro? hmm, I'm getting a reply *(on comp.dsp) with the word SPAM in it, which doesn't really help at all as it's not on the spam itself. It only helps the people that are reading through google groups. If you are reading the posts through another reader, then you need to kill file all posts from me. Basically, any google group message, you can reply to it and change the title to SPAM. I was doing this on sci.electronics.design, but it gets hammered. Doing this frustrates some users but helps anyone that reads through google groups. However, I believe that the only way to stoip this is for google group users to get a bogus name and turn the titles off. Maybe the spammers will quit if every title gets changed on them. We will see |
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On Apr 20, 10:46*am, wrote:
On Apr 20, 10:08*am, "VelociChicken" wrote: take a look over at comp.dsp... someone / something is going through all the posts *and changing the subject to SPAM for those posts that are *...um...spam.... that mkes it very easy for the rest of us to deal with it... Who / what is doing this and can we do it at rec.audio.pro? hmm, I'm getting a reply *(on comp.dsp) with the word SPAM in it, which doesn't really help at all as it's not on the spam itself. It only helps the people that are reading through google groups. *If you are reading the posts through another reader, then you need to kill file all posts from me. Basically, any google group message, you can reply to it and change the title to SPAM. *I was doing this on sci.electronics.design, but it gets hammered. Doing this frustrates some users but helps anyone that reads through google groups. However, I believe that the only way to stoip this is for google group users to get a bogus name and turn the titles off. *Maybe the spammers will quit if every title gets changed on them. We will see If you want to do this, you need to do it with a google group account. So many users are blocking everything from google, but allowing other stuff to pass. Don't change the titles from a non- google account. |
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If you want to do this, you need to do it with a google group account. So many users are blocking everything from google, but allowing other stuff to pass. Don't change the titles from a non- google account. You can't change the subject lines of existing messages. You can only control the subject line on your own response. There is no benefit after the fact. |
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"Mark" wrote [from GoogleGroups] ...
take a look over at comp.dsp... someone / something is going through all the posts and changing the subject to SPAM for those posts that are ...um...spam.... No. They are *replying* to the spam messages with annother message titled "SPAM". You cannot change the original message, not the subject line or anytying else about it. that mkes it very easy for the rest of us to deal with it... No. It does nothing for people who are reading the spam for the first time unless they see that there is a *reply* to the spam message with the title "SPAM". If you were using a traditional, time-tested threaded newsreader, you would see the folly of that method. Who / what is doing this and can we do it at rec.audio.pro? Anybody can do it, even you. However it is of very questionable utility and just doubles the number of spam messages. Not a good idea IMHO. Suggest that you get a real newsreader and not that horroble GoogleGroups web-based peep-hole into the real Usenet. Then you can actually filter out the spam, something Google is too stupid or lazy to do (or else they actually have some beneft from the spam traffic.) I'm beginning to think that it *IS* a good idea to just kilfile (ignore) anything posted from GoogleGroups or from someone with a gmail account. (That includes YOU if you didn't get the hint.) Google is fouling their own nest (the archives) with their laissez-faire attitude. Yet annother failed neo-lib theory. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laissez-faire |
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Another tactic to fight the s p @ m
On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 07:05:05 -0700 (PDT), Mark
wrote: take a look over at comp.dsp... someone / something is going through all the posts and changing the subject to SPAM for those posts that are ...um...spam.... that mkes it very easy for the rest of us to deal with it... Who / what is doing this and can we do it at rec.audio.pro? Complete waste of time. Everyone still gets the original spam. This way they get it twice, labelled "Spam" the second time. It'snot too bad on rap, and at least the Chinese spam isn't offensive. Your eyes and brain can skip over them as effeciently as any other method. |
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#9
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Another tactic to fight the s p @ m
In article ,
Mark wrote: take a look over at comp.dsp... someone / something is going through all the posts and changing the subject to SPAM for those posts that are ...um...spam.... that mkes it very easy for the rest of us to deal with it... Who / what is doing this and can we do it at rec.audio.pro? Looks to me more like some idiot is responding to all of the spam posts with SPAM in the subject... consequently there are TWO posts for every spam message. This kind of help is NOT something we need. --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." |
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Another tactic to fight the s p @ m
On 20 Apr 2008, Mark wrote in rec.audio.pro:
take a look over at comp.dsp... someone / something is going through all the posts and changing the subject to SPAM for those posts that are ...um...spam.... that mkes it very easy for the rest of us to deal with it... Who / what is doing this and can we do it at rec.audio.pro? NO! Please don't do that! You can't change the subject of an existing post, you can only post a followup and change its subject. Therefore, you are just adding more spam. You'd be making yourself part of the problem, not the solution. |
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Another tactic to fight the s p @ m
On Apr 20, 7:05*am, Mark wrote:
take a look over at comp.dsp... someone / something is going through all the posts *and changing the subject to SPAM for those posts that are *...um...spam.... that mkes it very easy for the rest of us to deal with it... Who / what is doing this and can we do it at rec.audio.pro? Mark I use Google groups and I just rate the spam posts with just one star. I also report the spam to Google groups. I don't think that has done any good so far but it may if the whole forum reported the spammers to Google groups. Peter Nachtwey |
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Another tactic to fight the s p @ m
pnachtwey wrote:
I use Google groups and I just rate the spam posts with just one star. I also report the spam to Google groups. I don't think that has done any good so far but it may if the whole forum reported the spammers to Google groups. has been about as effective as throwing your reports into the trashcan. And it's been that way for the past decade. Google is too busy with their search engine business to bother putting any more labour than absolutely necessary into their Usenet division. But at least it's better than blogspot.com, the Google operation that doesn't even HAVE a valid abuse address. --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." |
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Another tactic to fight the s p @ m
On 20 Apr 2008, (Scott Dorsey) wrote in
rec.audio.pro: But at least it's better than blogspot.com, the Google operation that doesn't even HAVE a valid abuse address. No, but they do have a report form that might have some effect: http://help.blogger.com/?page=troubl...ubmit=Continue Some of the blogspot sites that I've reported here have been shut down, so I'd like to think google pays at least a little attention to these reports. |
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Another tactic to fight the s p @ m
"pnachtwey" wrote [from GoogleGroups]...
I use Google groups and I just rate the spam posts with just one star. I also report the spam to Google groups. I don't think that has done any good so far but it may if the whole forum reported the spammers to Google groups. Are you all in denial that Google explicitly states that they do NOT care about spam or other Usernet abuse, and claim it is not their place to try to police it? Hint for free: If you want your postings read by people who are likely to be able to help you, recommend switching to some alternative besides GoogleGroups as more of us just block everything posted from Google (including @gmail). |
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On 2008-04-21, Richard Corfield wrote:
Is this being done by posting route or email address? In other words, do I get blocked because of my gmail address, or do I pass muster posting through aioe.org with slrn? So I've changed address, or am testing anyway. It may play havoc if the moderated group tries to validate me again as although real it's been antispammed. - Richard -- _/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/ Richard dot Corfield at gmail dot com _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/ _/ _/ Time is a one way street, _/ _/ _/_/ _/_/_/ except in the Twilight Zone |
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"Richard Corfield" wrote ...
Richard Corfield wrote: Is this being done by posting route or email address? In other words, do I get blocked because of my gmail address, or do I pass muster posting through aioe.org with slrn? So I've changed address, or am testing anyway. It may play havoc if the moderated group tries to validate me again as although real it's been antispammed. Your mail address is no longer shown as coming from gmail. Assume you are refering to some other (not identified) moderated group? rec.audio.pro is not moderated nor does it require authentication, etc. |
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On 2008-04-21, Richard Crowley wrote:
Your mail address is no longer shown as coming from gmail. Assume you are refering to some other (not identified) moderated group? rec.audio.pro is not moderated nor does it require authentication, etc. I was yes. All I need to do now is change my "detect followups to myself" scoring to pick up the new references entries. - Richard -- _/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/ Richard dot Corfield at gmail dot com _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/ _/ _/ Time is a one way street, _/ _/ _/_/ _/_/_/ except in the Twilight Zone |
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Another tactic to fight the s p @ m
Mark wrote:
take a look over at comp.dsp... someone / something is going through all the posts and changing the subject to SPAM for those posts that are ...um...spam.... that mkes it very easy for the rest of us to deal with it... Who / what is doing this and can we do it at rec.audio.pro? Mark I don't see how that eases anything; the original is still there. I too respond to those spams. I forward it to , well knowing that Google doesn't now care. If every reader of every group the spam goes to forwards a copy, the powers at Google might change their policy. Who will join me in my (silent and likely lone) campaign? Jerry -- Engineering is the art of making what you want from things you can get. ŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻ ŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻ |
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Another tactic to fight the s p @ m
pnachtwey wrote:
On Apr 20, 7:05 am, Mark wrote: take a look over at comp.dsp... someone / something is going through all the posts and changing the subject to SPAM for those posts that are ...um...spam.... that mkes it very easy for the rest of us to deal with it... Who / what is doing this and can we do it at rec.audio.pro? Mark I use Google groups and I just rate the spam posts with just one star. I also report the spam to Google groups. I don't think that has done any good so far but it may if the whole forum reported the spammers to Google groups. Peter Nachtwey So far, It's you and me, Peter. Soon more, I hope. Jerry -- Engineering is the art of making what you want from things you can get. ŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻ ŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻ |
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On Apr 20, 8:13 am, "Richard Crowley" wrote:
wrote ... If you want to do this, you need to do it with a google group account. So many users are blocking everything from google, but allowing other stuff to pass. Don't change the titles from a non- google account. You can't change the subject lines of existing messages. But you can change the Subject line of a thread, as seen by some threaded newsreaders. Thus one can filter out the entire thread putting the Subject line in a Killfile (using Greasemonkey on Firefox, for instance). This is useful if a spammer has zillions of email addresses and posting hosts at their disposal. |
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On Apr 21, 10:59*am, Jerry Avins wrote:
Mark wrote: take a look over at comp.dsp... someone / something is going through all the posts *and changing the subject to SPAM for those posts that are *...um...spam.... that mkes it very easy for the rest of us to deal with it... Who / what is doing this and can we do it at rec.audio.pro? Mark I don't see how that eases anything; the original is still there. I too respond to those spams. I forward it to , well knowing that Google doesn't now care. If every reader of every group the spam goes to forwards a copy, the powers at Google might change their policy. Who will join me in my (silent and likely lone) campaign? Jerry -- Engineering is the art of making what you want from things you can get. ŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻ ŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻ Google has sunk to a new low for me. I have exceeded my "posting limit", presumably for reporting SPAM messages. I haven't post any content to the group but have reported numerous SPAMs to the "report this message" link as well as forwarding the messages to: (where appropriate) ( " " ) and I included (at least) one copy of the offending messages in the complaint link and the forwards. HOW could I have triggered a posting limit without actually having posted a single message when the SPAMMERs seem to go unabated ? ? ? ? Google SUCKS ! |
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On Apr 20, 10:58 pm, "Richard Crowley" wrote:
"pnachtwey" wrote [from GoogleGroups]... I use Google groups and I just rate the spam posts with just one star. I also report the spam to Google groups. I don't think that has done any good so far but it may if the whole forum reported the spammers to Google groups. Are you all in denial that Google explicitly states that they do NOT care about spam or other Usernet abuse, and claim it is not their place to try to police it? Hint for free: If you want your postings read by people who are likely to be able to help you, recommend switching to some alternative besides GoogleGroups as more of us just block everything posted from Google (including @gmail). Unfortunately my ISP stopped providing access to usenet groups. Instead I use Google Groups for free. It isn't the way I'd like to read the usenet forums but that is pretty much all that is left. BTW - Just because you post through google groups does't mean you need gmail account - all you need is a valid email account (gmail or otherwise). Cheers, David |
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Dave wrote:
Unfortunately my ISP stopped providing access to usenet groups. Instead I use Google Groups for free. It isn't the way I'd like to read the usenet forums but that is pretty much all that is left. No, it certainly isn't. You can get an account with an NNTP provider like Supernews or the like. Or you can get a shell account and read it over a command line connection if you prefer doing that. Or you can change ISPs. It used to be one of the big things people looked for when selecting an ISP was Usenet services. ISPs would advertise how many hops they were from inhp4. Nowadays nobody cares. BTW - Just because you post through google groups does't mean you need gmail account - all you need is a valid email account (gmail or otherwise). Yes, although google will go out of their way to advertise many other services to you as well. --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." |
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